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Post by Bodiam on Nov 23, 2024 17:39:20 GMT
It's the same thing the club has had for every year for ten years, isn't it? Fans want the owner out, fans want the manager out and the team is crap. I'm bored. I'm fed up of Charlton Athletic. It's the same thing every single season. I'm not saying I don't want change or we shouldn't call for change but I'm fed up of lurching from one dickhead owner to the next and the next nothing manager to the next. Can’t argue with you mate - depressing |
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Post by aaronaldo on Nov 23, 2024 18:02:02 GMT
We really need to stop sacking our manager every season.
Having said that, I’m really struggling to see ANY improvements that NJ has brought. My concern is that we gave NJ a very long contract and getting rid inside 12 months wasn’t on the cards.
For all those who insisted the next manager should get the biggest say in transfer dealings. How are you feeling now? Still happy for a manager vs head coach?
Sack Jones and Scott if things don’t improve soon. (I can’t see how they will..)
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Post by reamsofverse on Nov 23, 2024 20:07:13 GMT
The owners in the States have to call time on those they have invested their time and money into.
The truth is it isn't working. They have put their money on the table but it's been used appalling by a manager who is still dining out on the one and only success story of his career, a SMT who haven'ty got a clue and a technical director who has never won anything in the game.
Friedman and co. have been sold a kipper by people who have put themselves in highly paid jobs until they can flip the club and pick up their bonus.
This club is going backwards by the season and it's accelerated since these chancers popped up.
The squad is the worst I have known in 40 years, patheticly put together by people who have arrived at the club on the back of failure. It's what they do for a living.
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Post by petetongthereturn on Nov 23, 2024 20:31:49 GMT
Jones and Scott both out !
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Post by clarky on Nov 23, 2024 20:34:54 GMT
The owners in the States have to call time on those they have invested their time and money into. The truth is it isn't working. They have put their money on the table but it's been used appalling by a manager who is still dining out on the one and only success story of his career, a SMT who haven'ty got a clue and a technical director who has never won anything in the game. Friedman and co. have been sold a kipper by people who have put themselves in highly paid jobs until they can flip the club and pick up their bonus. This club is going backwards by the season and it's accelerated since these chancers popped up. The squad is the worst I have known in 40 years, patheticly put together by people who have arrived at the club on the back of failure. It's what they do for a living. Good post. |
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Post by mikebassett on Nov 23, 2024 23:26:56 GMT
I don't think the squad is that bad. Thin in some areas, definitely but there is some quality in the squad, either externally sourced or those from within the system. That said, there's a bloke trying to recreate past glories with a select group that may well have been good at the club they had success at but this league isn't the league they were successful in and time has progressed and attempting what was done before with those who did it before is a pretty crap plan and will almost certainly lead to divisions within the playing squad. Is there any trust in some players because they're within the Luton clique?
The manager is pathetic, though. The arrogance is off the scale and he's attempting to recreate past glories after embarrassing himself on the biggest stage at Southampton and rather than adapt and coach in 2024, he's doubled down and is attempting Plan A again and again and again because his ego cannot let him be wrong and everybody else is wrong and he's right and will go 'somewhere else' as if another club would be daft enough to feed the ego.
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Post by roburwash on Nov 23, 2024 23:31:24 GMT
The trouble is that the 'money men in the USA' haven't got a clue about who they would replace the current SMT with. It was the current SMT who lured these football virgins in and shafted them - where on earth would they begin to chose people who won't shaft them.
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Post by scabbyhorse on Nov 24, 2024 2:00:02 GMT
I don't think the squad is that bad. Thin in some areas, definitely but there is some quality in the squad, either externally sourced or those from within the system. That said, there's a bloke trying to recreate past glories with a select group that may well have been good at the club they had success at but this league isn't the league they were successful in and time has progressed and attempting what was done before with those who did it before is a pretty crap plan and will almost certainly lead to divisions within the playing squad. Is there any trust in some players because they're within the Luton clique? The manager is pathetic, though. The arrogance is off the scale and he's attempting to recreate past glories after embarrassing himself on the biggest stage at Southampton and rather than adapt and coach in 2024, he's doubled down and is attempting Plan A again and again and again because his ego cannot let him be wrong and everybody else is wrong and he's right and will go 'somewhere else' as if another club would be daft enough to feed the ego. This, sums him up nicely |
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Post by robcafc1 on Nov 24, 2024 8:05:30 GMT
The trouble is that the 'money men in the USA' haven't got a clue about who they would replace the current SMT with. It was the current SMT who lured these football virgins in and shafted them - where on earth would they begin to chose people who won't shaft them. Should replace Scott with Curbs who knows a good player and there true value |
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Post by reamsofverse on Nov 24, 2024 9:56:42 GMT
The trouble is that the 'money men in the USA' haven't got a clue about who they would replace the current SMT with. It was the current SMT who lured these football virgins in and shafted them - where on earth would they begin to chose people who won't shaft them. Should replace Scott with Curbs who knows a good player and there true value Only one decision to be made here. Scott and Jones out and Curbs in as manager. It won't happen but somebody needs to at least realise that we don't need a technical director. We are no more technical now than what we were in all the years we never had one. Scott is a pal of the SMT. They found him a job with a high rank title to make him and them look better than what they are. Easy to believe when you are 5000 miles away. |
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Post by earlpurple on Nov 24, 2024 10:58:03 GMT
Curbishley to replace both Rodwell and Scott. Maybe replace N Jones later on with a choice of Curbishley but I don't think he should be the day to day coach.
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Post by gorman on Nov 24, 2024 11:29:27 GMT
It’s hard to understand how Scott is still at the club. He has been the constant throughout the recent pathetic recruitment and subsequent failures year on year.
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Post by norfolkrobin on Nov 24, 2024 12:43:12 GMT
It’s hard to understand how Scott is still at the club. He has been the constant throughout the recent pathetic recruitment and subsequent failures year on year. Must have something over someone!? So much squad churn with VERY little success. Pathetic really,Technical directors!? Thinking we're big time haha. We need the Yanks to greenlight the poaching of a TOP scout from somewhere! |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Nov 24, 2024 12:59:43 GMT
It’s hard to understand how Scott is still at the club. He has been the constant throughout the recent pathetic recruitment and subsequent failures year on year. Must have something over someone!? So much squad churn with VERY little success. Pathetic really,Technical directors!? Thinking we're big time haha. We need the Yanks to greenlight the poaching of a TOP scout from somewhere! This…………When you look at the most successful clubs you will find a top recruitment team, that to me is the most important position within a club…..Brighton, Bournemouth and Brentford over the years are a fine example of this and further down the chain Peterbrough have always punched well above their weight due to excellant recruitment…….until the owners are willing and recognise this to be the case within our club we are going no where……Surely owners of a club with a supposedly top four playing budget with a team that doesn’t look like winning a game of football must be thinking what the chuffing hell is going on with my investment….. Rather than fans discussing the managerial merry go round and will Jones stay or will he go how about we discuss the bigger issue in my opinion is our lack of spotting talent, especially creative exciting talent which we can recruit…..Wasn’t Phil Chappell an excellent scout/ recruitment guy, especially with his connections with the club isnt he the type that we need to be looking at? |
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Post by mikebassett on Nov 24, 2024 14:24:51 GMT
At the risk of being shouted down, I don't want Curbs back in a proper role at the club. He's had his time, he served the club with distinction and should be allowed to bask in his own glory doing the Charlton TV bits and being an ambassador for the club. Appointing Curbs in any role would be the equivalent of Jones signing as many former Luton players as he can in the hope he can recreate something that happened a while ago.
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Post by Mundell on Nov 24, 2024 14:25:20 GMT
I don't think the squad is that bad. Thin in some areas, definitely but there is some quality in the squad, either externally sourced or those from within the system. That said, there's a bloke trying to recreate past glories with a select group that may well have been good at the club they had success at but this league isn't the league they were successful in and time has progressed and attempting what was done before with those who did it before is a pretty crap plan and will almost certainly lead to divisions within the playing squad. Is there any trust in some players because they're within the Luton clique? The manager is pathetic, though. The arrogance is off the scale and he's attempting to recreate past glories after embarrassing himself on the biggest stage at Southampton and rather than adapt and coach in 2024, he's doubled down and is attempting Plan A again and again and again because his ego cannot let him be wrong and everybody else is wrong and he's right and will go 'somewhere else' as if another club would be daft enough to feed the ego. Hard to disagree with this. The suggestion that Jones keeps doubling down really resonates. I'm probably in a small minority, but I never felt that our odds on relegation last season moved much above about one in ten, even when Michael Appleton was in charge, but Jones could easily create much more jeopardy this season if he continues to rinse and repeat, even with what I think is a stronger all round squad. |
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Post by Mundell on Nov 24, 2024 14:26:11 GMT
At the risk of being shouted down, I don't want Curbs back in a proper role at the club. He's had his time, he served the club with distinction and should be allowed to bask in his own glory doing the Charlton TV bits and being an ambassador for the club. Appointing Curbs in any role would be the equivalent of Jones signing as many former Luton players as he can in the hope he can recreate something that happened a while ago. Completely agree with that too. |
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Post by tonaddick on Nov 24, 2024 16:13:28 GMT
At the risk of being shouted down, I don't want Curbs back in a proper role at the club. He's had his time, he served the club with distinction and should be allowed to bask in his own glory doing the Charlton TV bits and being an ambassador for the club. Appointing Curbs in any role would be the equivalent of Jones signing as many former Luton players as he can in the hope he can recreate something that happened a while ago. Spot on. Very hard to disagree with this. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Nov 24, 2024 16:48:23 GMT
Should replace Scott with Curbs who knows a good player and there true value Only one decision to be made here. Scott and Jones out and Curbs in as manager. It won't happen but somebody needs to at least realise that we don't need a technical director. We are no more technical now than what we were in all the years we never had one. Scott is a pal of the SMT. They found him a job with a high rank title to make him and them look better than what they are. Easy to believe when you are 5000 miles away. My mistake I meant Curbs back as in some kind of advisory role not as manager. |
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Post by addicksi on Nov 24, 2024 18:47:21 GMT
Would love to see Rodwell, Scott and Methven replaced by Curbs,Varney and Powell. Dreamland I guess but these chancers are not here for Charlton.
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