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Post by ardrohanlil on Feb 11, 2024 9:09:38 GMT
Andy Scott’s relationship with George Dobson broke down in pre season, when the skipper objected on behalf of the squad to changes that the SMT has made to the player’s bonus scheme. I know this will upset a handful of stats - driven poobahs, who for some reason are more interested in stats and processes than results, but this is another avoidable own goal to be laid squarely at the feet of the Technical Director. Scott needs removing. An overnight poll of our fans show that around 90% hold him primarily responsible for the club facing relegation to Div 4. That's probably the reason why the players don't seem to be giving their all during the games. They are backing Dobbo and the way he's been treated by Scott. |
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Post by sevenoaks on Feb 11, 2024 9:14:19 GMT
I am an old woman, too old to be bothered with bloody stats.
This player wonderful engine blah blah, and does he take the bloody ball with him or even cross it.
We have not cleared the first man from a corner since Keith Peacock!.
Even Chris Solly with one good leg and an arm tied behind his back is better than our current full backs..
So if its stats driven and this is what we have, God help us!.
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Post by ploppy on Feb 11, 2024 9:17:46 GMT
If I was an investor I’d be looking very closely at who sold me this bill of shit. Where’s Charlie?
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Post by clarky on Feb 11, 2024 10:08:04 GMT
in my opinion I Think some of us are missing something here Scott’s job as part of the whole SMT is to slash the wage bill, and the only way to do that is offer shit contracts Dobson ,and sell off your high earners or loan them out.make no mistake if leaburn and aneke was fit we would be looking to sell them .must of been gutted when he got injured.well done Scott but I do think the blame net needs casting a bit further. Agree, Scott isn't solely to blame for this mess and it must start with the person(s) who brought him in. It is clear to all of us that the SMT is completely incompetent but unfortunately the owners seem to slow to do something about it. |
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Post by clarky on Feb 11, 2024 10:12:43 GMT
Andy Scott’s relationship with George Dobson broke down in pre season, when the skipper objected on behalf of the squad to changes that the SMT has made to the player’s bonus scheme. I know this will upset a handful of stats - driven poobahs, who for some reason are more interested in stats and processes than results, but this is another avoidable own goal to be laid squarely at the feet of the Technical Director. Scott needs removing. An overnight poll of our fans show that around 90% hold him primarily responsible for the club facing relegation to Div 4. That's probably the reason why the players don't seem to be giving their all during the games. They are backing Dobbo and the way he's been treated by Scott. If the bonus scheme has been changed it won't be in the players favour so they maybe reacting accordingly. |
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Post by clarky on Feb 11, 2024 10:16:18 GMT
I am an old woman, too old to be bothered with bloody stats. This player wonderful engine blah blah, and does he take the bloody ball with him or even cross it. We have not cleared the first man from a corner since Keith Peacock!. Even Chris Solly with one good leg and an arm tied behind his back is better than our current full backs.. So if its stats driven and this is what we have, God help us!. Agree, if the stats mean anything then why aren't we using them to improve? Everyone of us can see where we are going wrong without running to this XG nonsense to confirm we are absolute crap. |
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Post by clarky on Feb 11, 2024 10:17:50 GMT
If I was an investor I’d be looking very closely at who sold me this bill of shit. Where’s Charlie? I would be very interested to know how he sold it to them? |
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Post by ploppy on Feb 11, 2024 10:27:42 GMT
If I was an investor I’d be looking very closely at who sold me this bill of shit. Where’s Charlie? I would be very interested to know how he sold it to them? Like any spiv - if you appeal to someone’s vanity they will believe anything |
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Post by clarky on Feb 11, 2024 10:31:47 GMT
I would be very interested to know how he sold it to them? Like any spiv - if you appeal to someone’s vanity they will believe anything Well some on this forum certainly did. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Feb 11, 2024 11:05:08 GMT
Andy Scott needs publicly digging out.
Football has moved on from his limited skill set.
There is nothing technical about him or the players he is bringing in so why the title?
Nathan Jones is a good manager, last thing he and we need is Andy fucking Scott still in the job in the summer.
It's absolutely criminal that we have Steve Brown and Curbs available to watch and advise on players yet Scott remains on the payroll.
I really am starting to question whether his role is to find players to take us up or sign duds like he has to take us down.
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Post by valley on Feb 11, 2024 11:18:20 GMT
Port Vale next fixtures are away,Look how well Reading have done the last month.Axe Scott etc now.
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Post by utrinqueparatus on Feb 11, 2024 12:01:14 GMT
If these rumours are true about Dobbo standing up on behalf of players to Scott about Bonus Change and Scott pissing off squad befor start of season, then yes well done to Dobbo for sticking up for them as we know Scott is a scumbag. But...
I bet that is the reason why this weak spinless squad look like they dont give a shit and have underperformed so bad from start and under 2 different coaches, not willing to fight for the club. The club means nothing to them and that shows (Apart from Dobbo and May). I could be wrong but it makes sense as to what we are seeing.
But if this theory is the case then the players deserve to get it as much as Scott. It's totally unprofessional of the players and they don't deserve to be professional footballers for putting our club and community at risk. Don't see Reading players doing this and they've not been paid wages.
If the players are dilibratley not giving 100% over a stupid bonus change when they already get paid better then 80% of the population, and we get relegated because of their actions. They deserve the same treatment as Scott. Fans need to be comfronting Scott to his face at training ground and The Valley and make him leave in fear.
If players don't changed under Jones then it's always been the players fault all along and they can go fuck themselves if we get relegated.
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Post by eric on Feb 11, 2024 12:10:59 GMT
Makes you wonder if that cunt Scott is on a bonus if we get relegated .
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Post by roburwash on Feb 11, 2024 12:16:20 GMT
I wonder how much Scott is on per week? Probably much more than Dobbo.
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Post by herewegoagain on Feb 11, 2024 12:41:44 GMT
Get rid of the lot of them, they are all part of the problem and they are just here for a pay day. Let’s remind ourselves of what they have ‘achieved’ so far this season with the team they have cobbled together:
- 7 wins from 31 league games (the joint 3rd lowest in the league with only Fleetwood and Carlisle with fewer wins)
- A disgraceful 48 league goals conceded ( this is only beaten again by Fleetwood and Carlisle)
- 1 clean sheet in 19 league games and only 3 clean sheets in the league all season
- 1 away league win all season to date
- A team that couldn’t see off a part time team in the FA cup needing two attempts to get there in the end
If the above isn’t failure then I don’t know what is. Let’s not forget we are supposed to be one of the bigger teams in league one and we are falling woefully short. This is down to the Owners and the SMT for the chronically poor decisions they have continuously made all season long.
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Post by jackcharlton on Feb 11, 2024 13:58:56 GMT
ASndy Scott needs publicly digging out. Football has moved on from his limited skill set. There is nothing technical about him or the players he is bringing in so why the title? Nathan Jones is a good manager, last thing he and we need is Andy fucking Scott still in the job in the summer. It's absolutely criminal that we have Steve Brown and Curbs available to watch and advise on players yet remains on the payroll. I really am starting to question whether his role is to find players to take us up or sign duds like he has to take us down. Reams, you're in the enviable position to know who to ask the next time you get to chat. |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Feb 11, 2024 14:56:03 GMT
I wonder how much Scott is on per week? Probably much more than Dobbo. A club that languishes in 19th place in Division 3 doesn’t need seven (7) well paid executives. If nothing else, it just creates an impression of “jobs for the boys”, particularly when many of them knew each other from previous clubs they had also failed at. I’d expect a club in the top half of the Championship to be able to afford a “Director of Diversity” (whatever that is) but not a club that’s let its skipper and POTY leave for free, because Scott wouldn’t give the boy the 3 year contract he deserved. SE7 Partners shouldn’t be wasting a penny on such frivolous nonsense. We’ve got Ed Warrick, Paul Elliott & Simon Lonegan (sic) in the Director’s Box, but no replacement for CBT, and no wing backs who can cross a ball or defend, despite Andy Scott insisting the club deploys 3-5-2 throughout the age groups 🤔 I’m not going to get into individuals, as that just plays into certain poster’s agendas about calling out individuals , but can anyone name a major sponsorship deal that the club has secured in the past 6 months ? |
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Post by valley on Feb 11, 2024 15:05:12 GMT
I wonder how much Scott is on per week? Probably much more than Dobbo. A club that languishes in 19th place in Division 3 doesn’t need seven (7) well paid executives. If nothing else, it just creates an impression of “jobs for the boys”, particularly when many of them knew each other from previous clubs they had also failed at. I’d expect a club in the top half of the Championship to be able to afford a “Director of Diversity” (whatever that is) but not a club that’s let its skipper and POTY leave for free, because Scott wouldn’t give the boy the 3 year contract he deserved. SE7 Partners shouldn’t be wasting a penny on such frivolous nonsense. We’ve got Ed Warrick, Paul Elliott & Simon Lonegan (sic) in the Director’s Box, but no replacement for CBT, and no wing backs who can cross a ball or defend, despite Andy Scott insisting the club deploys 3-5-2 throughout the age groups 🤔 I’m not going to get into individuals, as that just plays into certain poster’s agendas about calling out individuals , but can anyone name a major sponsorship deal that the club has secured in the past 6 months ? 20th. |
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Post by geronimo on Feb 11, 2024 15:21:07 GMT
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Post by clarky on Feb 11, 2024 20:17:23 GMT
We really need to change the title of this thread to one down, three to go as Methven and Rodwell need to do one as well.
Interesting that on twitter the Sunderland fan base are once again showing their sympathy towards our predicament and saying they did warn us about Methven.
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Post by ploppy on Feb 11, 2024 20:34:11 GMT
The real tragedy is that and(I hope I am quoting the investors correctly) I think Reams said this “they are in it to see what happens and have some fun”
Well the fun has stopped long ago. Relegation will prove fatal to cafc and the valley. That’s not fun and when the investors see they have been sold a pup, they will bolt. (Understandably so) and we saw it coming as well
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Post by Tom1982 on Feb 11, 2024 21:10:43 GMT
The sad truth is that, whilst I’m not a highly paid football executive, if I’d been asked about Gillesphey, Coventry, Ladapo, Hector and even Isted before they signed I’d of said yeah all day long. But as fans we are being let down all over the place. Senior management, Management, players and so on. It’s a fucking train wreck at the moment.
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Post by bengland93 on Feb 11, 2024 22:25:25 GMT
I have a feeling that Andy Scott’s days are numbered. The fact that the investors have needed to push through for Nathan Jones to be appointed followed by halting the Dobson deal until the summer speaks volumes.
Would not be surprised to see Scott out of the club soon and can imagine both Rodwell and Methven are on thin ice. Time will tell but a crucial 15 games coming up!
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Post by norfolkrobin on Feb 11, 2024 22:29:49 GMT
The sad truth is that, whilst I’m not a highly paid football executive, if I’d been asked about Gillesphey, Coventry, Ladapo, Hector and even Isted before they signed I’d of said yeah all day long. But as fans we are being let down all over the place. Senior management, Management, players and so on. It’s a fucking train wreck at the moment. Again well said. Our hope lies in NJ getting a tune out of this squad somehow,the bigger inquest will have to go on the back-burner. Elite culture? Director od diversity? We can't keep a clean sheet for love nor money so I'd say let as NJ has said "get the basics right" IF we can squeak our league one status(shudder) we can look at this jobs for the boys vulture culture who feed off the carcass that was once a great club. But it's very much IF,and the alternative is F*ck knows what. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Feb 11, 2024 22:58:02 GMT
I have a feeling that Andy Scott’s days are numbered. The fact that the investors have needed to push through for Nathan Jones to be appointed followed by halting the Dobson deal until the summer speaks volumes. Would not be surprised to see Scott out of the club soon and can imagine both Rodwell and Methven are on thin ice. Time will tell but a crucial 15 games coming up! I think you are right. I have a feeling that Nathan Jones just isn't here to manage the side. I believe he is the go to man in terms of what feedback the Americans are asking for. I also believe that they will be doing so more regularly than ever. Rodwell wasn't even at the game yesterday while CM is over in Jamaica tying up the loose ends for the ridiculous Mount Pleasant link up. Why we are investng time and money into that is a nonsense. |
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Post by kings hill addick on Feb 11, 2024 23:08:42 GMT
I have a feeling that Andy Scott’s days are numbered. The fact that the investors have needed to push through for Nathan Jones to be appointed followed by halting the Dobson deal until the summer speaks volumes. Would not be surprised to see Scott out of the club soon and can imagine both Rodwell and Methven are on thin ice. Time will tell but a crucial 15 games coming up! I think you are right. I have a feeling that Nathan Jones just isn't here to manage the side. I believe he is the go to man in terms of what feedback the Americans are asking for. I also believe that they will be doing so more regularly than ever. Rodwell wasn't even at the game yesterday while CM is over in Jamaica tying up the loose ends for the ridiculous Mount Pleasant link up. Why we are investng time and money into that is a nonsense. Yeah, but Methven gets to spend weeks there several times each winter all expenses covered by the club. What’s not to like? |
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Post by ploppy on Feb 11, 2024 23:27:07 GMT
I think you are right. I have a feeling that Nathan Jones just isn't here to manage the side. I believe he is the go to man in terms of what feedback the Americans are asking for. I also believe that they will be doing so more regularly than ever. Rodwell wasn't even at the game yesterday while CM is over in Jamaica tying up the loose ends for the ridiculous Mount Pleasant link up. Why we are investng time and money into that is a nonsense. Yeah, but Methven gets to spend weeks there several times each winter all expenses covered by the club. What’s not to like? It’s another Land Rover fiasco innit? |
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Post by statto on Feb 12, 2024 4:18:23 GMT
I think you are right. I have a feeling that Nathan Jones just isn't here to manage the side. I believe he is the go to man in terms of what feedback the Americans are asking for. I also believe that they will be doing so more regularly than ever. Rodwell wasn't even at the game yesterday while CM is over in Jamaica tying up the loose ends for the ridiculous Mount Pleasant link up. Why we are investng time and money into that is a nonsense. Yeah, but Methven gets to spend weeks there several times each winter all expenses covered by the club. What’s not to like? Exactly. |
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Post by ardrohanlil on Feb 12, 2024 6:01:39 GMT
Now I know the circumstances surrounding the proposed Dobbo move. I admit I was wrong and only want one person to leave and thats Andy Scott.
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Feb 13, 2024 21:50:33 GMT
Just to point out that 12 of Andy Scott’s piss poor signings were out there tonight 👍
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