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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 23, 2024 22:35:40 GMT
Sacked at Forest after splashing £150m on 22 players during the summer, with club sat second from bottom in the Premier League after just one win all season.
Should have been no coming back from that yet somebody found a way for him.
Whoever that was should be shown the door along with Appleton.
Scott is a like a gambler chasing money after losing bet after losing bet. Signs a player who isn't good enough and after half a dozen games he's signing another one. Squad is too big and devoid of idea and ability and it's all down to him. Never known anyone in football let alone Charlton to recruit dud after dud and get away with it.
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Post by newyorkaddick on Jan 23, 2024 22:38:57 GMT
Absolutely disgusted that he would think it appropriate to make a show of sacking a decent man (albeit woefully incompetent) that HE himself appointed ten minutes after a game. Unlike Appleton he can hide away in the directors' box.
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Post by robcafc1 on Jan 23, 2024 22:39:59 GMT
Replace him with Curbs will get us out of this mess
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Post by cedric on Jan 23, 2024 22:41:33 GMT
Comes across as a prick too - he needs go big time.
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 23, 2024 22:42:58 GMT
Andy Scott has had two personal picks as manager in the past 12 months.
His contacts. His choices. His hiring.
He has sacked both, after 30 odd games.
This is a bloke who couldn’t, by his own admission, cut it as manager of Aldershot 😂🤦♂️
He’s not only a big head, and a bad judge of both player & manager, he’s also a massive handbrake on us recruiting a decent manager of suitable calibre.
It’s going to be very interesting to see for how much longer Andy Scott can bluff the investors before he’s rumbled.
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Post by wellingaddick on Jan 23, 2024 22:43:50 GMT
I do think Scott is a problem. His decision making so far is not taking the club in the right direction. Indeed it is not even stagnating the club. If Messrs Rodwell etc truly want to make a success of Charlton, then Appleton should not be the only one to go.
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Post by herewegoagain on Jan 23, 2024 22:44:39 GMT
Replace him with Curbs will get us out of this mess I completely agree with this suggestion, this is the type of role that is perfect for Curbs. This is not about living in the past and wanting all the old guard back but Curbs could do a much better job than the woefully incompetent Scott in my opinion. |
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Post by AndyAddick on Jan 23, 2024 22:55:05 GMT
Replace him with Curbs will get us out of this mess I completely agree with this suggestion, this is the type of role that is perfect for Curbs. This is not about living in the past and wanting all the old guard back but Curbs could do a much better job than the woefully incompetent Scott in my opinion. Like AC or SB want part of this piss poor circus |
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Post by brad on Jan 23, 2024 22:56:35 GMT
Sacked at Forest after splashing £150m on 22 players during the summer, with club sat second from bottom in the Premier League after just one win all season. Should have been no coming back from that yet somebody found a way for him. Whoever that was should be shown the door along with Appleton. Scott is a like a gambler chasing money after losing bet after losing bet. Signs a player who isn't good enough and after half a dozen games he's signing another one. Squad is too big and devoid of idea and ability and it's all down to him. Never known anyone in football let alone Charlton to recruit dud after dud and get away with it. 10000000000000000% |
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Post by herewegoagain on Jan 23, 2024 22:59:14 GMT
I completely agree with this suggestion, this is the type of role that is perfect for Curbs. This is not about living in the past and wanting all the old guard back but Curbs could do a much better job than the woefully incompetent Scott in my opinion. Like AC or SB want part of this piss poor circus They probably wouldn’t but I think we all know they could do a far superior job than the current incumbents. In fact a mouldy potato could do a better job than what we current have. |
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Jan 23, 2024 23:22:05 GMT
Scott is due to pick the next manager presumably?
Feck that. We now just need one of those managers hired for a few months at crazy wages to turn things around and in this case put out the relegation fires (eg a Warnock type but hopefully not actually him).
What we don't need is Andy Scott choosing that person!
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Post by suffolkaddick on Jan 23, 2024 23:26:03 GMT
Glad you've all woken up and smelt the coffee.
Scott, as I have previously said, has been the problem all along and anyone who takes the " Head Coach" job will just be his whipping boy.
Get rid of him. Go back to the tried and trusted method of a Manager who knows how to run a Third Division Football Club because, like it or not, that is what Charlton Athletic currently is.
Whatever Scott's job title is, he is a waste of money.
FFS he has a Performance Director, Head Coach, Defence Coach and a Goalkeeping Coach. WTF does he do all day?
His "record" is not in the lower leagues. He is totally out of his depth.
On tonight's performance alone, the misconception that Lloyd Jones is a promotion winning centre back is laughable. He was at fault for two goals.
We need a decisive goalkeeper. AMB should have called for Thomas to leave the through ball that ultimately led to the winning goal. In addition he should have been sent off for conceding what everyone bar the referee thought was a stonewall penalty. (Don't get me started on the referee - I hate VAR but it would have changed tonight's result).
I'm not defending Appleton but if you hang the Sundance Kid, you hang Butch Cassidy as well.
Rant over.
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 23, 2024 23:34:30 GMT
I know Mundell and seriouslyred were big supporters of Andy Scott, and the ridiculous DoF role. Now that the wheels have come off, it would be interesting to hear whether they have changed their opinions 🤔 |
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Post by cedric on Jan 24, 2024 0:04:08 GMT
We now have an opportunity- hire a decent statement making boss who can gel the side together properly- finish strongly - instil new confidence- recruit well in the summer and have a real go next season.
Are these owners up to that task?
As others said- this is probably the most important appointment in the clubs history- it’s either the beginning of the long road back or it’s the continuing collapse into oblivion.
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Post by discocafc on Jan 24, 2024 0:46:58 GMT
Sacked at Forest after splashing £150m on 22 players during the summer, with club sat second from bottom in the Premier League after just one win all season. Should have been no coming back from that yet somebody found a way for him. Whoever that was should be shown the door along with Appleton. Scott is a like a gambler chasing money after losing bet after losing bet. Signs a player who isn't good enough and after half a dozen games he's signing another one. Squad is too big and devoid of idea and ability and it's all down to him. Never known anyone in football let alone Charlton to recruit dud after dud and get away with it. I think it’s too early to jump to that conclusion when we had a shite manager |
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Post by watameires on Jan 24, 2024 0:50:54 GMT
I know Mundell and seriouslyred were big supporters of Andy Scott, and the ridiculous DoF role. Now that the wheels have come off, it would be interesting to hear whether they have changed their opinions 🤔 DOF role isn’t ridiculous it’s the incumbents performance that is |
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Post by watameires on Jan 24, 2024 0:53:25 GMT
I do not get the criticism of Apples being sacked 15 mins after the game suggesting he had longer? At the very least He should have at least been sacked at half time
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Post by chertseyaddick on Jan 24, 2024 1:08:27 GMT
Under Andy Scott we now have four specialist defensive midfielders when we need only one. We could field a full side of central midfielders who have started games this season. What a waste of resources!
He has to go.
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 24, 2024 5:12:55 GMT
Scott is getting absolute pelters overnight, not least on the club’s own official feed.
You’d love to understand what the investors are thinking now , and for how much longer they are going to be willing to tolerate this scurvy crew who sold them a false prospectus.
They must have blown at least £500,000 in the last 12 months on pay offs, first for Holden & Hayes, and now Appleton and his team (assuming they are going with him).
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Post by se7sm on Jan 24, 2024 5:20:49 GMT
Glad you've all woken up and smelt the coffee. Scott, as I have previously said, has been the problem all along and anyone who takes the " Head Coach" job will just be his whipping boy. Get rid of him. Go back to the tried and trusted method of a Manager who knows how to run a Third Division Football Club because, like it or not, that is what Charlton Athletic currently is. Whatever Scott's job title is, he is a waste of money. FFS he has a Performance Director, Head Coach, Defence Coach and a Goalkeeping Coach. WTF does he do all day? His "record" is not in the lower leagues. He is totally out of his depth. On tonight's performance alone, the misconception that Lloyd Jones is a promotion winning centre back is laughable. He was at fault for two goals. We need a decisive goalkeeper. AMB should have called for Thomas to leave the through ball that ultimately led to the winning goal. In addition he should have been sent off for conceding what everyone bar the referee thought was a stonewall penalty. (Don't get me started on the referee - I hate VAR but it would have changed tonight's result). I'm not defending Appleton but if you hang the Sundance Kid, you hang Butch Cassidy as well. Rant over. can’t disagree with any of that. Very good post. |
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Post by redplanet on Jan 24, 2024 7:13:11 GMT
Scott is getting absolute pelters overnight, not least on the club’s own official feed. You’d love to understand what the investors are thinking now , and for how much longer they are going to be willing to tolerate this scurvy crew who sold them a false prospectus. They must have blown at least £500,000 in the last 12 months on pay offs, first for Holden & Hayes, and now Appleton and his team (assuming they are going with him). I just hope they don't do a Kevin Cash and turn off the tap. |
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Post by ardrohanlil on Jan 24, 2024 8:21:13 GMT
Andy Scott has appointed lots of people so that he can pass on responsibility and blame to others. In the end the buck stops with him. Get him out.
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Post by ExeterAddick on Jan 24, 2024 8:30:13 GMT
By my count, we have Dobbo, Coventry, Bakinson, Watson, Fiorini, Fraser, Anderson, Taylor, McGrandles and Camara who are capable of playing in the middle of the park.
For players capable of playing on the wing, we have Tyreese Campbell.
How can that be right?
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Post by seriouslyred on Jan 24, 2024 8:44:31 GMT
Scott is getting absolute pelters overnight, not least on the club’s own official feed. You’d love to understand what the investors are thinking now , and for how much longer they are going to be willing to tolerate this scurvy crew who sold them a false prospectus. They must have blown at least £500,000 in the last 12 months on pay offs, first for Holden & Hayes, and now Appleton and his team (assuming they are going with him). It's not clear that the investors would worry about 1/2M in compensation for they are in for that level of losses every single month! No, their concern will surely be who takes over for the rest of the season and whether the successful candidate his the ground running / can get a tune out of our squad. The SMT and Scott secured a large investment for this window. Most, including yourself, thought the six players signed looked good on paper. Can anybody really predict where the next win is coming from?! One could say a lot more about the range of outcomes from this moment on but... Let's see whether our club can hire a credible head coach / manager over the next week - either way this is going to be a very bumpy ride. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Jan 24, 2024 8:49:36 GMT
By my count, we have Dobbo, Coventry, Bakinson, Watson, Fiorini, Fraser, Anderson, Taylor, McGrandles and Camara who are capable of playing in the middle of the park. For players capable of playing on the wing, we have Tyreese Campbell. How can that be right? It's very strange. We must be struggling to get rid of some of them? We don't play wingers now, so that is a reason for the wingers. I think this is a gamble personally when the new formation relies on quality wingbacks and we don't necessarily have strong players in these roles. Out of all the above players, we are also looking to get a 10 as we are desperate for one. Yet we're looking to offload the one we have. |
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Post by mikebassett on Jan 24, 2024 9:02:24 GMT
As has been the case for much of the past ten to fifteen years, I can’t see what is trying to be achieved. It’s just going from one manager to another with little direction and no plan. You can put some of that down to the ownership we’ve had and that’s understandable but you would now expect to see some sort of semblance of a plan but alas, there isn’t on or off the pitch.
I’m not sure what the plan is or where we go next. It’ll be a jobber manager who has been around a few clubs and they’ll be here next for about nine months.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2024 9:12:08 GMT
Do away with the whole role of DOF and let the manager manage and pick players he wants. Save some money as well.
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Post by earlpurple on Jan 24, 2024 10:10:12 GMT
Andy Scott may be ok as part of the player recruitment team, head scout, whatever you might call him.
He should not be involved in the coaching of the team or the tactics.
The new head coach should report to Jim Rodwell not Andy Scott.
They then need to work on a better balanced squad, i.e a mix of the right kind of player.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 24, 2024 10:39:54 GMT
By my count, we have Dobbo, Coventry, Bakinson, Watson, Fiorini, Fraser, Anderson, Taylor, McGrandles and Camara who are capable of playing in the middle of the park. For players capable of playing on the wing, we have Tyreese Campbell. How can that be right? Why did we bring in Fiorini in the first place when we have so many midfielders? |
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Post by aaronaldo on Jan 24, 2024 10:45:08 GMT
By my count, we have Dobbo, Coventry, Bakinson, Watson, Fiorini, Fraser, Anderson, Taylor, McGrandles and Camara who are capable of playing in the middle of the park. For players capable of playing on the wing, we have Tyreese Campbell. How can that be right? Why did we bring in Fiorini in the first place when we have so many modfielders? I think Fiorini was for a trial, planning for next season. I'll judge him when he's fit to play. |
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