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Post by reamsofverse on Feb 2, 2024 20:14:25 GMT
Jones deal done there no problem with backroom staff , Andy Scott or Martin Sandgarrd ….. Martin Sandgaard left Charlton last Summer Colin. PMSL!! |
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Post by bexleyboy on Feb 2, 2024 20:38:56 GMT
Jones deal done there no problem with backroom staff , Andy Scott or Martin Sandgarrd ….. Martin Sandgaard left Charlton last Summer Colin. You dint say .. he never went with his dad where was he hiding in the cupboard  The point is everyone said he did this and that at the club but everyone was shut up when Gallen put everyone right .. |
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Post by 1978sussex on Feb 2, 2024 20:41:32 GMT
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Feb 2, 2024 20:59:51 GMT
Yes, but it could affect the appointment of another manager who want to bring their own men in. Which seems? to be happening with Jones, if you are correct Jones deal done there no problem with backroom staff , Andy Scott or Martin Sandgarrd ….. How does he feel about Keith Peacock and Mervyn Day? |
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Post by Mundell on Feb 2, 2024 21:35:49 GMT
Nothing of note really. I know one of the grey areas was his backroom staff. I'm sure wants the people who have been with him throughout his mangagerial career but Curtis Fleming has a contract which we have no intention paying off and why should we? Jones normally works with Chris Cohen and Paul Hart as his right hand men but four into three don't go. Something is going to have to give and it hasn't yet. I see there’s a few comments on another forum that you have got a lot wrong, and didn’t predict Jones, Small or the Harrogate lad. Is it possible that with Jones now on the scene, the SMT have been cut out of it, & the info that you and Dubai have been getting will dry up ? Serious question. I know that’s a serious question Occam’s Razor and this is a genuine attempt at a serious answer. I have absolutely no inside or confidential information so my view here is based on nothing more than inference and on my own experience of how, what we might broadly call corporate governance, typically works in practice. First, the direct involvement of Gabriel Brener and one of the Friedmans in the recruitment of Nathan Jones (as reported by Rich Cawley) is a clear sign that the owners are fully aware that so far things haven’t developed as planned. That’s not surprising in the least. However, my guess (and this wouldn’t be at all unusual) is that Andy Scott led the recruitment process, the Board decided on Nathan Jones and then Brener et al met their preferred candidate, i.e. Jones. This doesn’t mean the interview was a fait accompli, i.e. Brener could have said “I don’t like him”, but it would mean that he only met Jones and no other candidates. If this is what happened then the interview would have had a dual purpose. It would have been an opportunity for Brener to exercise his power of veto if he didn’t like Jones (though that would have been a big call and unlikely I’d suggest), while Brener would also have been selling “the project” to Jones to get him over the line. I could be completely wrong about this, but that’s my guess. Second, I’d be very surprised if the organisational and management structure changes. The investors will almost certainly continue to delegate the execution of strategy to the CAFC Board and its SMT and then hold them to account for performance. They will not take direct control. What they will do, of course, and this may be what’s been happening this week, is kick the tyres hard to secure assurance that the SMT is capable of doing the job it is tasked with. If they don’t believe it is, changes will be made. As you know, that’s been my perspective all along and that divorce between ownership and day to day control is healthy because it means the SMT on the ground is accountable to an ownership group that can fire them. We’ve not really been in quite this position before. Third, I’d be equally surprised if we don’t continue to operate with both a Technical Director and a Director of Performance with Nathan Jones operating as a Head Coach, even if they fudge his title. It would be a complete volte face to give Jones complete control over all football matters and revert to a traditional structure and that would be an odd thing to do. This does not mean Andy Scott is the right man for the role he’s in, but that’s a completely different question. See above. Fourth, the question about communication is an interesting one, but I don’t think it’s got anything to do with Jones. Some of the detail around the Head Coach recruitment posted on the other site has been quite extraordinary and, in my view, completely unprofessional, while the debacle around Michael Appleton’s departure was a textbook example of how not to do things. It may be that the SMT are impervious to this (though that wouldn’t be a good sign) or maybe they’ve learnt from the experience. Who knows, but it’s entirely possible that the club will be a little more discrete going forwards. Just my perspective as always. I love the profile photo by the way!! Great sense of humour. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Feb 2, 2024 22:09:19 GMT
Actually the appointment has already been confirmed, it's the announcement that will follow tomorrow. I was probably one of the first to know today that all being well, Nathan Jones was about to become our new manager. I asked if I could confirm it before I left the house this morning but was told NO just in case something changes last minute, so I didn't. Tonight Cawley confirms that it should happen tomorrow and he's done that because he has the freedom to do so. To be honest he's a few hours and a few developments behind play. He's only reporting what I got told this morning. Tomorrow he'll be revealing what I know tonight and that's because the club want it to be revealed through the proper channels. No offence I was told and none taken. A fans forum is not the place to announce a new manager. Sometimes you just have to bow to the media or wherever the club want official news stories to break and let them get on with their job. Happy for Rich to announce it tomorrow and have the scoop! It'll just be todays fish and chip paper to me though! |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Feb 3, 2024 7:21:26 GMT
Thanks for that well argued response MundellI’ve actually enjoyed the leaks to Reams, not least for the way that they have irked the self appointed glitterati on Charlton Life. Bremer & Co’s hands -on role in the recruitment of Jones also dispels the idea that they are hands off investors. Personally I think they have the potential to be our best set of owners since Richard Murray lost the plot in 2006. I still think the composition of their SMT is their weak spot, but as you say, with significant investment now made in better players and a far better manager, Messrs Methven, Scott & Rodwell have nowhere to hide. |
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Post by mersthamred on Feb 3, 2024 7:45:06 GMT
Thanks for that well argued response MundellI’ve actually enjoyed the leaks to Reams, not least for the way that they have irked the self appointed glitterati on Charlton Life. Bremer & Co’s hands -on role in the recruitment of Jones also dispels the idea that they are hands off investors. Personally I think they have the potential to be our best set of owners since Richard Murray lost the plot in 2006. I still think the composition of their SMT is their weak spot, but as you say, with significant investment now made in better players and a far better manager, Messrs Methven, Scott & Rodwell have nowhere to hide. Great news and well done to the owners. Don't see that Methven has done anything wrong and Andy Scott was seen as a good appointment by the fans. |
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Post by Mundell on Feb 3, 2024 9:01:27 GMT
Thanks for that well argued response Mundell I’ve actually enjoyed the leaks to Reams, not least for the way that they have irked the self appointed glitterati on Charlton Life. Bremer & Co’s hands -on role in the recruitment of Jones also dispels the idea that they are hands off investors. Personally I think they have the potential to be our best set of owners since Richard Murray lost the plot in 2006. I still think the composition of their SMT is their weak spot, but as you say, with significant investment now made in better players and a far better manager, Messrs Methven, Scott & Rodwell have nowhere to hide. Yeh, exactly. The SMT is under pressure to deliver in a way an owner, manager, like the narcissistic and dysfunctional Thomas Sandgaard, is never going to be. I had been worried about the Everitt jibe that the investors had been sold an unrealistic pitch by Charlie Methven and didn’t know what they’ve gotten into. That always seemed implausible to me, given the pedigree and diversity of the investor group, but I was nevertheless bothered by the financial graveyard of the Championship problem. Why would anyone sensible want to enter a dead zone where owners pour tens of millions of pounds a year down a black hole with no certainty of success? I had a light bulb moment about this when listening to one of Methven’s podcasts though. They are clearly making a bet that as a quid pro quo for an improved financial settlement with the Premier League, clubs in the Championship will be required to adopt UEFA’s Squad Cost Control Ratio (SCCR) a significantly more robust approach to controls on spending that today’s laughable Profitability and Sustainability regime. I bored everybody witless writing about this on another thread, but I genuinely believe it will transform the landscape in the Championship and it completely changes the outlook for CAFC. It really is a very big deal and it helps to explain why a savvy long term investor might view CAFC as an attractive long term investment. Lots of things follow from this which I won’t bore everyone with other than to say a) that I’d expect the SMT to be under a lot of pressure to increase commercial revenues, where we significantly underperform and which will be key to our allowable wage bill once the SCCR comes in and b) I’m sure there is a major effort underway to add real value in player trading and contract management, rather than focusing exclusively on the here and now. That appears to have got off to a very disappointing start, obviously, but there are some signs of a more innovative and insightful way of doing things. Anyway, the future will always be uncertain but we do have some reasons to be cheerful. Let’s hope Nathan Jones can hit the ground running. |
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Post by leedsaddick on Feb 3, 2024 9:34:37 GMT
Thanks for that well argued response Mundell I’ve actually enjoyed the leaks to Reams, not least for the way that they have irked the self appointed glitterati on Charlton Life. Bremer & Co’s hands -on role in the recruitment of Jones also dispels the idea that they are hands off investors. Personally I think they have the potential to be our best set of owners since Richard Murray lost the plot in 2006. I still think the composition of their SMT is their weak spot, but as you say, with significant investment now made in better players and a far better manager, Messrs Methven, Scott & Rodwell have nowhere to hide. Yeh, exactly. The SMT is under pressure to deliver in a way an owner, manager, like the narcissistic and dysfunctional Thomas Sandgaard, is never going to be. I had been worried about the Everitt jibe that the investors had been sold an unrealistic pitch by Charlie Methven and didn’t know what they’ve gotten into. That always seemed implausible to me, given the pedigree and diversity of the investor group, but I was nevertheless bothered by the financial graveyard of the Championship problem. Why would anyone sensible want to enter a dead zone where owners pour tens of millions of pounds a year down a black hole with no certainty of success? I had a light bulb moment about this when listening to one of Methven’s podcasts though. They are clearly making a bet that as a quid pro quo for an improved financial settlement with the Premier League, clubs in the Championship will be required to adopt UEFA’s Squad Cost Control Ratio (SCCR) a significantly more robust approach to controls on spending that today’s laughable Profitability and Sustainability regime. I bored everybody witless writing about this on another thread, but I genuinely believe it will transform the landscape in the Championship and it completely changes the outlook for CAFC. It really is a very big deal and it helps to explain why a savvy long term investor might view CAFC as an attractive long term investment. Lots of things follow from this which I won’t bore everyone with other than to say a) that I’d expect the SMT to be under a lot of pressure to increase commercial revenues, where we significantly underperform and which will be key to our allowable wage bill once the SCCR comes in and b) I’m sure there is a major effort underway to add real value in player trading and contract management, rather than focusing exclusively on the here and now. That appears to have got off to a very disappointing start, obviously, but there are some signs of a more innovative and insightful way of doing things. Anyway, the future will always be uncertain but we do have some reasons to be cheerful. Let’s hope Nathan Jones can hit the ground running. I just want to build on the point that you made re Rick Everett and his recent article in the Evening Standard. What struck me was a desire to return to the good old days of the 1990’s and 2000’s and not really accepting that the world has moved on. He talks a commercial game show, but in reality I think he’s never really had accountability for growing a P&L or growing the fan base, who are the next generation…… I think you’re right to call out the need for SMT to grow revenues…. I recently read that Steve Sutherland is now working as a Consultant on specific projects… this either means that they’ve got clear commercial goals to get after, or it’s another example of trying to do difficult challenges on the cheap….. as you say, interesting times |
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Post by clarky on Feb 3, 2024 9:47:50 GMT
Thanks for that well argued response MundellI’ve actually enjoyed the leaks to Reams, not least for the way that they have irked the self appointed glitterati on Charlton Life. Bremer & Co’s hands -on role in the recruitment of Jones also dispels the idea that they are hands off investors. Personally I think they have the potential to be our best set of owners since Richard Murray lost the plot in 2006. I still think the composition of their SMT is their weak spot, but as you say, with significant investment now made in better players and a far better manager, Messrs Methven, Scott & Rodwell have nowhere to hide. Great news and well done to the owners. Don't see that Methven has done anything wrong and Andy Scott was seen as a good appointment by the fans. firstly I agree well done to the owners, then I have to disagree. Methven was largely responsible for putting the SMT together, which is failing hence the intervention of the hands off owners. Whilst Scott was deemed a good appointment I doubt many would agree with that now. |
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Post by Mundell on Feb 3, 2024 10:13:26 GMT
Yeh, exactly. The SMT is under pressure to deliver in a way an owner, manager, like the narcissistic and dysfunctional Thomas Sandgaard, is never going to be. I had been worried about the Everitt jibe that the investors had been sold an unrealistic pitch by Charlie Methven and didn’t know what they’ve gotten into. That always seemed implausible to me, given the pedigree and diversity of the investor group, but I was nevertheless bothered by the financial graveyard of the Championship problem. Why would anyone sensible want to enter a dead zone where owners pour tens of millions of pounds a year down a black hole with no certainty of success? I had a light bulb moment about this when listening to one of Methven’s podcasts though. They are clearly making a bet that as a quid pro quo for an improved financial settlement with the Premier League, clubs in the Championship will be required to adopt UEFA’s Squad Cost Control Ratio (SCCR) a significantly more robust approach to controls on spending that today’s laughable Profitability and Sustainability regime. I bored everybody witless writing about this on another thread, but I genuinely believe it will transform the landscape in the Championship and it completely changes the outlook for CAFC. It really is a very big deal and it helps to explain why a savvy long term investor might view CAFC as an attractive long term investment. Lots of things follow from this which I won’t bore everyone with other than to say a) that I’d expect the SMT to be under a lot of pressure to increase commercial revenues, where we significantly underperform and which will be key to our allowable wage bill once the SCCR comes in and b) I’m sure there is a major effort underway to add real value in player trading and contract management, rather than focusing exclusively on the here and now. That appears to have got off to a very disappointing start, obviously, but there are some signs of a more innovative and insightful way of doing things. Anyway, the future will always be uncertain but we do have some reasons to be cheerful. Let’s hope Nathan Jones can hit the ground running. I just want to build on the point that you made re Rick Everett and his recent article in the Evening Standard. What struck me was a desire to return to the good old days of the 1990’s and 2000’s and not really accepting that the world has moved on. He talks a commercial game show, but in reality I think he’s never really had accountability for growing a P&L or growing the fan base, who are the next generation…… I think you’re right to call out the need for SMT to grow revenues…. I recently read that Steve Sutherland is now working as a Consultant on specific projects… this either means that they’ve got clear commercial goals to get after, or it’s another example of trying to do difficult challenges on the cheap….. as you say, interesting times Agreed. I don’t want to gratuitously pile in to the nostalgic pessimists who want to turn the clock back just for the sake of it, but what has always irked me about the Everitt narrative is that it has never offered any constructive and plausible alternatives. Telling us that we were successful twenty odd years ago doesn’t help unless it is clear a) what led to that success (beyond having an outstanding, mercurial manager who delivered exceptional results given the resources available, along with an element of pure serendipity) and b) if we can draw lessons which are relevant to the competitive landscape today. Wishful thinking that more “fan involvement” would help is just that. Methven’s podcasts are always interesting. He appears to be well informed and to have a good strategic grasp of what’s needed to succeed. The question is whether he knows how to translate his strategic ideas into workable initiatives. That’s never easy, obviously, or everyone would be doing it. I have a sense that he has a vision of the future where new “fans” will consume their football in a different way to those of us who will turn up at 3pm today, via different forms of social media, for example. The challenge, I guess, is how to monetise that. Whatever it is. What’s happened at Wrexham is a spectacular example of left field innovation, though that may not have been a premeditated plan. Trial and error probably rules here. I don’t think they’re trying to do things on the cheap. |
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Post by Mundell on Feb 3, 2024 10:18:52 GMT
Great news and well done to the owners. Don't see that Methven has done anything wrong and Andy Scott was seen as a good appointment by the fans. firstly I agree well done to the owners, then I have to disagree. Methven was largely responsible for putting the SMT together, which is failing hence the intervention of the hands off owners. Whilst Scott was deemed a good appointment I doubt many would agree with that now. Don’t forget that Methven put the investor/ownership group together and must have agreed a strategy, management structure and high level budget with them. He may or may not have got the initial appointments on the SMT right (only time will tell), but if they’re not right they can be changed. If this new ownership succeeds then Methven will be due a huge amount of credit. |
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Post by clarky on Feb 3, 2024 10:38:41 GMT
firstly I agree well done to the owners, then I have to disagree. Methven was largely responsible for putting the SMT together, which is failing hence the intervention of the hands off owners. Whilst Scott was deemed a good appointment I doubt many would agree with that now. Don’t forget that Methven put the investor/ownership group together and must have agreed a strategy, management structure and high level budget with them. He may or may not have got the initial appointments on the SMT right (only time will tell), but if they’re not right they can be changed. If this new ownership succeeds then Methven will be due a huge amount of credit. All credit to the ownership they acted when they knew the job was too big for the SMT and if we were to go down I won't be blaming them. |
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Post by bexleyboy on Feb 3, 2024 10:41:24 GMT
According to football league social site
Rumour has it that the Welshman will be appointed and will be announced after the game vs Derby County over the weekend
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Post by Mundell on Feb 3, 2024 10:48:23 GMT
Don’t forget that Methven put the investor/ownership group together and must have agreed a strategy, management structure and high level budget with them. He may or may not have got the initial appointments on the SMT right (only time will tell), but if they’re not right they can be changed. If this new ownership succeeds then Methven will be due a huge amount of credit. All credit to the ownership they acted when they knew the job was too big for the SMT and if we were to go down I won't be blaming them. What does that mean clarky ? What do think the ownership did that was too big for the SMT? |
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Post by clarky on Feb 3, 2024 11:20:36 GMT
All credit to the ownership they acted when they knew the job was too big for the SMT and if we were to go down I won't be blaming them. What does that mean clarky ? What do think the ownership did that was too big for the SMT? perhaps too big was over the top but they had provide additional funding as our squad was so poor and had to intervene to avoid making further mistakes with the recruitment of a third manager in 5 months. |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Feb 3, 2024 11:20:49 GMT
The inescapable narrative from Rick Everitt is that the club was only well run in the past 20 years when he had a job there.
It’s a professional & competitive employer - not a vessel for “jobs for the boys”, and keeping amateur fans in cushy jobs.
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Post by se7jw on Feb 3, 2024 11:29:03 GMT
Actually the appointment has already been confirmed, it's the announcement that will follow tomorrow. I was probably one of the first to know today that all being well, Nathan Jones was about to become our new manager. I asked if I could confirm it before I left the house this morning but was told NO just in case something changes last minute, so I didn't. Tonight Cawley confirms that it should happen tomorrow and he's done that because he has the freedom to do so. To be honest he's a few hours and a few developments behind play. He's only reporting what I got told this morning. Tomorrow he'll be revealing what I know tonight and that's because the club want it to be revealed through the proper channels. No offence I was told and none taken. A fans forum is not the place to announce a new manager. Sometimes you just have to bow to the media or wherever the club want official news stories to break and let them get on with their job. Happy for Rich to announce it tomorrow and have the scoop! It'll just be todays fish and chip paper to me though! Cawley is one of first ones to know, suggesting otherwise is doesn’t make sense since he’s been breaking Charlton news for years 🤣 |
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Post by ExeterAddick on Feb 3, 2024 11:36:10 GMT
Do we think Jones will be unveiled to the crowd before KO, or that they'll wait until after the game / tomorrow so that it doesn't distract from what Fleming and Pearce are doing today?
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Post by bigandy99 on Feb 3, 2024 11:37:24 GMT
The inescapable narrative from Rick Everitt is that the club was only well run in the past 20 years when he had a job there. It’s a professional & competitive employer - not a vessel for “jobs for the boys”, and keeping amateur fans in cushy jobs. Is Rick not just a dinosaur who hasn’t moved on?.. |
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Post by bexleyboy on Feb 3, 2024 12:06:28 GMT
Does not matter when it’s announced the players
And Fleming will know and that’s all that matters ……,
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Post by leedsaddick on Feb 3, 2024 12:11:45 GMT
The inescapable narrative from Rick Everitt is that the club was only well run in the past 20 years when he had a job there. It’s a professional & competitive employer - not a vessel for “jobs for the boys”, and keeping amateur fans in cushy jobs. Is Rick not just a dinosaur who hasn’t moved on?.. His address is 34 Jurassic Park….. so I think he is 😂😂 |
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Post by reamsofverse on Feb 3, 2024 12:19:33 GMT
Actually the appointment has already been confirmed, it's the announcement that will follow tomorrow. I was probably one of the first to know today that all being well, Nathan Jones was about to become our new manager. I asked if I could confirm it before I left the house this morning but was told NO just in case something changes last minute, so I didn't. Tonight Cawley confirms that it should happen tomorrow and he's done that because he has the freedom to do so. To be honest he's a few hours and a few developments behind play. He's only reporting what I got told this morning. Tomorrow he'll be revealing what I know tonight and that's because the club want it to be revealed through the proper channels. No offence I was told and none taken. A fans forum is not the place to announce a new manager. Sometimes you just have to bow to the media or wherever the club want official news stories to break and let them get on with their job. Happy for Rich to announce it tomorrow and have the scoop! It'll just be todays fish and chip paper to me though! Cawley is one of first ones to know, suggesting otherwise is doesn’t make sense since he’s been breaking Charlton news for years 🤣 He doesn't have direct communications to the SMT so while he does pick up on information it's not always up to date. That was the point I was making. Not sure what your point is anyway? Since when has it been a competition? Some things need to go through the media as it would be unprofessional to announce what they are on fans forum especially one where it is well known that one of the guys who runs it has close relationships with some of the board members. There are things that I could say on here now, how the next 24 hours is going to pan out but if I'm being asked not to that's the way it is. I said it won't be me announcing it several weeks ago, but when it is, it won't be anything that I don't already know. Some things need a time and a place. |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Feb 3, 2024 12:34:28 GMT
Does not matter when it’s announced the players And Fleming will know and that’s all that matters ……, It’s not just about Fleming and the players though, is it ? You may not have noticed, but our home attendances are dire, and the home atmosphere even worse. Get Nathan Jones on the pitch at 2.50 to wave to our supporters & announce his signing …better still …Tweet it now , and encourage another 1,000 on the walk up to the game today. You also need to bear in mind that (Labour) Greenwich Council’s punitive new parking arrangements kick in today. The club must be more imaginative in terms of attracting wavering fans to attend. |
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Post by LoyalAddick on Feb 3, 2024 13:16:18 GMT
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Post by kings hill addick on Feb 3, 2024 13:28:59 GMT
Thanks for that well argued response Mundell I’ve actually enjoyed the leaks to Reams, not least for the way that they have irked the self appointed glitterati on Charlton Life. Bremer & Co’s hands -on role in the recruitment of Jones also dispels the idea that they are hands off investors. Personally I think they have the potential to be our best set of owners since Richard Murray lost the plot in 2006. I still think the composition of their SMT is their weak spot, but as you say, with significant investment now made in better players and a far better manager, Messrs Methven, Scott & Rodwell have nowhere to hide. Yeh, exactly. The SMT is under pressure to deliver in a way an owner, manager, like the narcissistic and dysfunctional Thomas Sandgaard, is never going to be. I had been worried about the Everitt jibe that the investors had been sold an unrealistic pitch by Charlie Methven and didn’t know what they’ve gotten into. That always seemed implausible to me, given the pedigree and diversity of the investor group, but I was nevertheless bothered by the financial graveyard of the Championship problem. Why would anyone sensible want to enter a dead zone where owners pour tens of millions of pounds a year down a black hole with no certainty of success? I had a light bulb moment about this when listening to one of Methven’s podcasts though. They are clearly making a bet that as a quid pro quo for an improved financial settlement with the Premier League, clubs in the Championship will be required to adopt UEFA’s Squad Cost Control Ratio (SCCR) a significantly more robust approach to controls on spending that today’s laughable Profitability and Sustainability regime. I bored everybody witless writing about this on another thread, but I genuinely believe it will transform the landscape in the Championship and it completely changes the outlook for CAFC. It really is a very big deal and it helps to explain why a savvy long term investor might view CAFC as an attractive long term investment. Lots of things follow from this which I won’t bore everyone with other than to say a) that I’d expect the SMT to be under a lot of pressure to increase commercial revenues, where we significantly underperform and which will be key to our allowable wage bill once the SCCR comes in and b) I’m sure there is a major effort underway to add real value in player trading and contract management, rather than focusing exclusively on the here and now. That appears to have got off to a very disappointing start, obviously, but there are some signs of a more innovative and insightful way of doing things. Anyway, the future will always be uncertain but we do have some reasons to be cheerful. Let’s hope Nathan Jones can hit the ground running. As you mentioned, contract management is going to be huge. That explains why we have not just given Dobson what he wants. The most successful clubs under the new SCCR are going to be those that extract the best value for money from the wage budget. In other words those that can encourage players to sign less excessive contracts. The sooner we, as a club, take that approach the better placed we will be when all the other clubs start doing the same. Legacy contracts to players that do not offer value for money are going to be a real restriction moving forward. I’m pleased that we are being hard nosed with players - totally unlike the Sandgaard debacle. |
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Post by seriouslyred on Feb 3, 2024 13:43:02 GMT
Yeh, exactly. The SMT is under pressure to deliver in a way an owner, manager, like the narcissistic and dysfunctional Thomas Sandgaard, is never going to be. I had been worried about the Everitt jibe that the investors had been sold an unrealistic pitch by Charlie Methven and didn’t know what they’ve gotten into. That always seemed implausible to me, given the pedigree and diversity of the investor group, but I was nevertheless bothered by the financial graveyard of the Championship problem. Why would anyone sensible want to enter a dead zone where owners pour tens of millions of pounds a year down a black hole with no certainty of success? I had a light bulb moment about this when listening to one of Methven’s podcasts though. They are clearly making a bet that as a quid pro quo for an improved financial settlement with the Premier League, clubs in the Championship will be required to adopt UEFA’s Squad Cost Control Ratio (SCCR) a significantly more robust approach to controls on spending that today’s laughable Profitability and Sustainability regime. I bored everybody witless writing about this on another thread, but I genuinely believe it will transform the landscape in the Championship and it completely changes the outlook for CAFC. It really is a very big deal and it helps to explain why a savvy long term investor might view CAFC as an attractive long term investment. Lots of things follow from this which I won’t bore everyone with other than to say a) that I’d expect the SMT to be under a lot of pressure to increase commercial revenues, where we significantly underperform and which will be key to our allowable wage bill once the SCCR comes in and b) I’m sure there is a major effort underway to add real value in player trading and contract management, rather than focusing exclusively on the here and now. That appears to have got off to a very disappointing start, obviously, but there are some signs of a more innovative and insightful way of doing things. Anyway, the future will always be uncertain but we do have some reasons to be cheerful. Let’s hope Nathan Jones can hit the ground running. As you mentioned, contract management is going to be huge. That explains why we have not just given Dobson what he wants. The most successful clubs under the new SCCR are going to be those that extract the best value for money from the wage budget. In other words those that can encourage players to sign less excessive contracts. The sooner we, as a club, take that approach the better placed we will be when all the other clubs start doing the same. Legacy contracts to players that do not offer value for money are going to be a real restriction moving forward. I’m pleased that we are being hard nosed with players - totally unlike the Sandgaard debacle. Yes, and the SMT shared the 8-8-8 framework last month. Once we've seen a few games under our new manager, with all these new signings, we will all be in a good place to discuss the squad as it stands and where things might go by the end of August. Dobson doesn't appear to have been inundated with offers whilst the arrival of Coventry suggests we move in a different direction. Similarly, nobody would describe either of our keepers as elite so change there is a distinct possibility. But first we needed to put in place a Director of performance, a capable manager etc. Anybody interested can map out a list of failings of the past ten years, but it takes a completely different mindset to commit to planning and positive action, let alone deliver over a year or two. And when new owners buy our club every few years, many will project all sorts of characteristics onto them. As well as make nostalgic demands which often have little to do with performance on the pitch. |
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Post by valleyfaithful on Feb 3, 2024 13:45:46 GMT
Who’s going to be changing the lyrics to this then?!
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Post by reamsofverse on Feb 3, 2024 13:54:49 GMT
Looking at the beginning of next wek before it's announced. The legal stuff is nothing unusual. The LMA is the collective, representative voice of all managers so any clauses or other small print need to be written in to contracts and signed off. |
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