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Post by aaronaldo on May 3, 2024 17:05:12 GMT
So our current squad looks like this then: Goalkeepers:
Ashley Maynard-Brewer Harry Isted Right Backs:
Kayne Ramsay Nathan Asiimwe
Tennai Watson Centre Backs:
Lloyd Jones Lucas Ness
Macaulay Gillesphey Rarmani Edmonds-Green Zack Mitchell
Left Backs:
Tayo Edun Thierry Small Central Midfielders:
Aaron Henry
Conor Coventry Conor McGrandles Karoy Anderson
Scott Fraser Terry Taylor Wingers:
Tyreece Campbell
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Alfie May Chuks Aneke Daniel KanuMiles LeaburnNot a huge number of senior players (15). Quite a lot of Academy players make up the total squad number (23 total). I'd expect us to Sell Fraser, Henry (maybe loan but has he done enough?), McGrandles at least. We have 3 right backs, so presumely we either sell or loan one out. You'd expect we need to sign at least 1 winger, if you want to keep TC as an option. He can change a game with his speed and dribbling. Got the second most assists behind CBT, despite not playing for a large chunk of the season. We certainly need a lot of players! The squad is nowhere near good enough and will get us nowhere. Nathan wants 8 new players. That is a third of the 8-8-8 so to accomodate them it is fairly obvious that space will have to be freed up. Yeah we're very well stocked on the middle 8. It's more like 2-13-8 at the moment. If we can recruit 7-8 players who fit into the first 8 (no reason not to over achieve!) then we will be onto something. If it's only 2-3 with the rest being squad players, then we're not! It's all about who we bring in now. Much of the slate is clean. |
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Post by bigandy99 on May 3, 2024 21:47:00 GMT
We won’t be challenging with the players retained, let’s be honest.. the club has a truck load of work to do and let’s hope money isn’t wasted.. When you say the players retained, do you mean Campbell and Small? They are the only players we have retained. All the others are under contract and, even if we wanted to move them on, they can't join another club until the transfer window opens in June. Even if we were going to pay them off the players have to agree to leave. I meant the players we’re keeping.. |
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Post by AndyAddick on May 4, 2024 8:11:42 GMT
And chucks remains ffs
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2024 10:13:41 GMT
I don’t have a problem with Chucks staying. If we pay him off it is going to cost a fair amount of money. He is excellent as an impact sub. |
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Post by eric on May 4, 2024 10:31:17 GMT
I don’t have a problem with Chucks staying. If we pay him off it is going to cost a fair amount of money. He is excellent as an impact sub. Actually thought he was quite poor in those last 7 appearances . Think it’s time to call it a day . |
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Post by aucklandaddick on May 4, 2024 10:37:32 GMT
I don’t have a problem with Chucks staying. If we pay him off it is going to cost a fair amount of money. He is excellent as an impact sub. Actually thought he was quite poor in those last 7 appearances . Think it’s time to call it a day . The problem is regardless of peeps views on the value of Chucks he is still under contract so you can’t just call it a day unless You pay him his full contract which he is fully entitled to……Therefore we pay him and use him as an impact sub or pay him off which to me makes zero financial sense personally…..The fella is still a handful coming off the bench and regardless of his previous seasons lack of playing time we have no idea on his availability next season….. |
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Post by aaronaldo on May 4, 2024 11:43:00 GMT
The first game we lost this season with Aneke playing a part of was our last game of the season. I’m pretty sure he did have an impact!
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Post by weststandfruitloop on May 4, 2024 11:57:31 GMT
All these people who thought the released list was going to include us paying off the likes of Fraser, McGrandles, Aneke etc...
...I pray to God you don't work in a job where you control budgets as doing the above would be financially ridiculous behaviour.
Let's remember that if you pay off a contract that counts towards the wage bill for SCMP (salary cap) purposes.
Paying them off now would count towards this year's (July 2023- June 2024) cap, so the owners would either have to instantly inject a load of money (which would presumably otherwise be part of the squad rebuilding budget) or face a points deduction next season.
The only sensible thing to do with contracted players you no longer want is to move them on (either on loan or permanently) with the club they move to paying - if not all, then at least some of - the remaining wages Charlton are otherwise committed to.
That's exactly what will happen. Anyone expecting us to blow our transfer/salary budget on paying off the likes of Fraser in early May needs to give their head a really big wobble!
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2024 12:01:36 GMT
I have always found in life it is very easy to spend other people’s money.
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Post by manikin on May 4, 2024 12:14:08 GMT
If 50% or 60% of those still here "are still here" at the start of the season I will be disappointed.
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Post by watameires on May 4, 2024 12:24:21 GMT
I have always found in life it is very easy to spend other people’s money. Exactly. That’s why I made a career out of it |
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Post by kings hill addick on May 4, 2024 12:40:35 GMT
I have always found in life it is very easy to spend other people’s money. I’ve always found other people rather reluctant to allow me to spend their money. How do you do it? |
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Post by aucklandaddick on May 4, 2024 12:43:56 GMT
If 50% or 60% of those still here "are still here" at the start of the season I will be disappointed. Wow mate that’s a big ask….🤣…….We have already released 13 players from this seasons squad and you are looking for the club to shred another 11-13 contracted players….so losing around 25 or 26 players……or am I mistaking your post? 🤔🤔 Realistically I think Fraser, Mcgrandles and Taylor will either be sold or loaned……..I can see possibly Tayo and Watson going also as I am not sure NJ really gets them…..IMO……so that’s another 5………I don’t think he will loan out the kids as I think he wants to coach their development Posters on here queried me when I forecasted we would have 8-9 new starters in the team come August but you are suggesting we get in around 12-13 new players just to get the squad news up to 23-24 unless my maths is wrong…….that’s a serious rebuild….🤣🤣 |
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Post by kings hill addick on May 4, 2024 12:52:47 GMT
If 50% or 60% of those still here "are still here" at the start of the season I will be disappointed. Wow mate that’s a big ask….🤣…….We have already released 13 players from this seasons squad and you are looking for the club to shred another 11-13 contracted players….so losing around 25 or 26 players……or am I mistaking your post? 🤔🤔 Realistically I think Fraser, Mcgrandles and Taylor will either be sold or loaned……..I can see possibly Tayo and Watson going also as I am not sure NJ really gets them…..IMO……so that’s another 5………I don’t think he will loan out the kids as I think he wants to coach their development Posters on here queried me when I forecasted we would have 8-9 new starters in the team come August but you are suggesting we get in around 12-13 new players just to get the squad news up to 23-24 unless my maths is wrong…….that’s a serious rebuild….🤣🤣 I don’t understand how you have come to the conclusion that Jones doesn’t rate Watson. He played him constantly, even when injured, and when we had alternatives available. I’m not saying that you are wrong but what is it, specifically, that makes you so sure that Jones doesn’t want him at the club? |
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Post by Tom1982 on May 4, 2024 12:54:00 GMT
Chuks is a monster and absolutely fantastic as a league one striker. When he gets injured it seems to sap everyone’s morale and results always take a hit. That’s when I start sulking and calling for him to be outed. Obviously that makes no sense at all, it’s just frustration. Be lovely to see him have a proper season next time out, stranger things have happened.
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Post by manikin on May 4, 2024 12:56:50 GMT
If 50% or 60% of those still here "are still here" at the start of the season I will be disappointed. Wow mate that’s a big ask….🤣…….We have already released 13 players from this seasons squad and you are looking for the club to shred another 11-13 contracted players….so losing around 25 or 26 players……or am I mistaking your post? 🤔🤔 Realistically I think Fraser, Mcgrandles and Taylor will either be sold or loaned……..I can see possibly Tayo and Watson going also as I am not sure NJ really gets them…..IMO……so that’s another 5………I don’t think he will loan out the kids as I think he wants to coach their development Posters on here queried me when I forecasted we would have 8-9 new starters in the team come August but you are suggesting we get in around 12-13 new players just to get the squad news up to 23-24 unless my maths is wrong…….that’s a serious rebuild….🤣🤣 Okay guess I'm going to be disappointed 😞. But both the keepers should go, plus Ness,Mitchell, Henry, Anderson Frazer, and Tayor. Whether they are loaned or transfered we still need a lot of out and about ten in. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on May 4, 2024 13:00:14 GMT
Wow mate that’s a big ask….🤣…….We have already released 13 players from this seasons squad and you are looking for the club to shred another 11-13 contracted players….so losing around 25 or 26 players……or am I mistaking your post? 🤔🤔 Realistically I think Fraser, Mcgrandles and Taylor will either be sold or loaned……..I can see possibly Tayo and Watson going also as I am not sure NJ really gets them…..IMO……so that’s another 5………I don’t think he will loan out the kids as I think he wants to coach their development Posters on here queried me when I forecasted we would have 8-9 new starters in the team come August but you are suggesting we get in around 12-13 new players just to get the squad news up to 23-24 unless my maths is wrong…….that’s a serious rebuild….🤣🤣 I don’t understand how you have come to the conclusion that Jones doesn’t rate Watson. He played him constantly, even when injured, and when we had alternatives available. I’m not saying that you are wrong but what is it, specifically, that makes you so sure that Jones doesn’t want him at the club? I may well be wrong….happens frequently…..I just took NJ’s comments about the fact that Watson never seemed to be able to finish a game and NJ stated he couldn’t fathom why this was the case……Just made me think if NJ had concerns about his ability to finish games and couldn’t rely on his fitness wise then he might be tempted to let him go if an offer came in….…..By the way I didn’t say that I thought NJ didn’t rate him I said I didn’t think NJ got him due to the reason above…. |
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Post by kings hill addick on May 4, 2024 13:13:18 GMT
I don’t understand how you have come to the conclusion that Jones doesn’t rate Watson. He played him constantly, even when injured, and when we had alternatives available. I’m not saying that you are wrong but what is it, specifically, that makes you so sure that Jones doesn’t want him at the club? I may well be wrong….happens frequently…..I just took NJ’s comments about the fact that Watson never seemed to be able to finish a game and NJ stated he couldn’t fathom why this was the case……Just made me think if NJ had concerns about his ability to finish games and couldn’t rely on his fitness wise then he might be tempted to let him go if an offer came in….…..By the way I didn’t say that I thought NJ didn’t rate him I said I didn’t think NJ got him due to the reason above…. Fair enough. Thanks. |
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Post by AndyAddick on May 8, 2024 7:53:30 GMT
I don’t have a problem with Chucks staying. If we pay him off it is going to cost a fair amount of money. He is excellent as an impact sub. can we allow such a luxury as an 'impact sub' on full wedge and only able to play at best 10 games a season before he breaks. This one baffles me, the SMT knew full well about his fragile body but still resigned him on a 3-1/2 year contract when no one else would touch him , why didnt they sign him on a pay as you play basis or some such lesser contract than 3-1/2 years ! |
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Post by kings hill addick on May 8, 2024 8:18:21 GMT
I don’t have a problem with Chucks staying. If we pay him off it is going to cost a fair amount of money. He is excellent as an impact sub. can we allow such a luxury as an 'impact sub' on full wedge and only able to play at best 10 games a season before he breaks. This one baffles me, the SMT knew full well about his fragile body but still resigned him on a 3-1/2 year contract when no one else would touch him , why didnt they sign him on a pay as you play basis or some such lesser contract than 3-1/2 years ! When you say the SMT, you mean Thomas Sandgaard, right? The Guitar fool didn’t have any management team. He made all the decisions himself because, as he said, running a football club was easy. |
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Post by yorkshireaddick on May 8, 2024 9:16:49 GMT
I don’t have a problem with Chucks staying. If we pay him off it is going to cost a fair amount of money. He is excellent as an impact sub. can we allow such a luxury as an 'impact sub' on full wedge and only able to play at best 10 games a season before he breaks. This one baffles me, the SMT knew full well about his fragile body but still resigned him on a 3-1/2 year contract when no one else would touch him , why didnt they sign him on a pay as you play basis or some such lesser contract than 3-1/2 years ! That was for sure one of the worst decisions out of the endless catalogue of extraordinarily poor choices of the Sandgaard era. I could forgive that, but then we have to witness the obliviously unaware guitar playing for office staff. Now that's just something I can't let slide. Those poor workers. They didn't deserve that. Nobody should witness such atrocities in the workplace. I truly hope the victims of that day, and their families can one day find peace. |
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Post by seriouslyred on May 8, 2024 9:28:31 GMT
can we allow such a luxury as an 'impact sub' on full wedge and only able to play at best 10 games a season before he breaks. This one baffles me, the SMT knew full well about his fragile body but still resigned him on a 3-1/2 year contract when no one else would touch him , why didnt they sign him on a pay as you play basis or some such lesser contract than 3-1/2 years ! That was for sure one of the worst decisions out of the endless catalogue of extraordinarily poor choices of the Sandgaard era. I could forgive that, but then we have to witness the obliviously unaware guitar playing for office staff. Now that's just something I can't let slide. Those poor workers. They didn't deserve that. Nobody should witness such atrocities in the workplace. I truly hope the victims of that day, and their families can one day find peace. First he said it was easy, then recruited a Technical bod to assist. The guy was actually an expert on setting up and regulating Academies so hardly hitting the sweet spot of what was needed. Then Zynex share price had a wobble and Sandgaard lost appetite for losses AND growth, so chose to go with budget options. Then he blamed staff for lack of revenue growth etc. That's why this GFP/SE7 structure looks so appealing! When things don't go as planned they change direction and change management. First Dean Holden was replaced last September, then they spelt out the requirement for eight "elite" players, and finally brought in a manager with a track record at this level. |
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Post by AndyAddick on May 8, 2024 11:05:53 GMT
can we allow such a luxury as an 'impact sub' on full wedge and only able to play at best 10 games a season before he breaks. This one baffles me, the SMT knew full well about his fragile body but still resigned him on a 3-1/2 year contract when no one else would touch him , why didnt they sign him on a pay as you play basis or some such lesser contract than 3-1/2 years ! When you say the SMT, you mean Thomas Sandgaard, right? The Guitar fool didn’t have any management team. He made all the decisions himself because, as he said, running a football club was easy. think you'll find your statement is a little way left of field. There was an 'smt' in place , and they were responsible for recruitment , unless you are really saying that ST approached CA personally and sat down with him and his agent and signed the deal ? |
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Post by aucklandaddick on May 8, 2024 11:58:48 GMT
I don’t have a problem with Chucks staying. If we pay him off it is going to cost a fair amount of money. He is excellent as an impact sub. can we allow such a luxury as an 'impact sub' on full wedge and only able to play at best 10 games a season before he breaks. This one baffles me, the SMT knew full well about his fragile body but still resigned him on a 3-1/2 year contract when no one else would touch him , why didnt they sign him on a pay as you play basis or some such lesser contract than 3-1/2 years ! And to think we paid the same money for Chucks ( and Ronnie Schwartz) at the same time Accy Stanley sold Dion Charles to Bolton……… |
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Post by kings hill addick on May 8, 2024 12:15:32 GMT
When you say the SMT, you mean Thomas Sandgaard, right? The Guitar fool didn’t have any management team. He made all the decisions himself because, as he said, running a football club was easy. think you'll find your statement is a little way left of field. There was an 'smt' in place , and they were responsible for recruitment , unless you are really saying that ST approached CA personally and sat down with him and his agent and signed the deal ? I’m not saying Sandgaard performed all the roles at the club but I think the organisational structure was rather flat. I don’t remember there being a board of Directors with a CEO, a CFO, a Director of Football and a HR Director. It was Sandgaard, his son and his girlfriend. Not that this makes the signing any better, obviously, but it was, almost certainly, driven by the ego of a fool. This not only excuses anyone else working at the club, at the time, but it makes the signing, and many of the others, less surprising, retrospectively. Sandgaard was a fool and most of his actions have turned out to have been spectacular disasters. Signing Aneke is just one of those disasters. |
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Post by wellingaddick on May 13, 2024 16:31:29 GMT
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Post by aucklandaddick on May 13, 2024 16:58:13 GMT
I think one of our two senior keepers may well be joining them…….. |
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Post by aaronaldo on May 13, 2024 16:59:24 GMT
Only signed Prince last summer 🤷🏼♂️ |
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