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Post by kings hill addick on Apr 21, 2024 8:14:00 GMT
I suspect that they will tell the players as soon as the season finishes - which is fair, in my opinion as they need to find other clubs/employment. With social media I can't believe that we won't know within a few days of the players being told. Some might be offered something and we will have to wait to see if they take up the offer but those going will probably be in the public domain within a week of the season finishing. Like others I suspect that there will be quite a few leaving. Players who are yet to have been offered an extension will know that the writing is on the wall. And Nathan Jones' post match comments about changing personnel were somewhat telling. So yes, we might see a club statement early May. And most of the decisions will be uncontentious. There are usually a handful who are made offers and I for one hope that Hector is one of those. For he's played well, and thatcwill be one less to recruit... one less risk. I’m torn on Hector. He looks very good a lot of the time but he makes mistakes. It feels like he makes a lot of mistakes and I wonder if a less talented player that makes fewer errors might reduce the number of goals that we concede next season. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Apr 21, 2024 8:25:26 GMT
Players who are yet to have been offered an extension will know that the writing is on the wall. And Nathan Jones' post match comments about changing personnel were somewhat telling. So yes, we might see a club statement early May. And most of the decisions will be uncontentious. There are usually a handful who are made offers and I for one hope that Hector is one of those. For he's played well, and thatcwill be one less to recruit... one less risk. I’m torn on Hector. He looks very good a lot of the time but he makes mistakes. It feels like he makes a lot of mistakes and I wonder if a less talented player that makes fewer errors might reduce the number of goals that we concede next season. To be fair, across the last 5 games he has probably been overall our most consistent player and looks a good player, better than Gillesphey that’s for sure but you can’t forget the amount of mistakes and poor defending during the period before his hamstring injury….. It probably didn’t help that every mistake he made tended to result in a goal as we haven’t had a keeper capable of getting him out of trouble……. I think in this league you need your centre backs big and physical…..Che Dunkley for them yesterday was a prime example of a no nonsense CB who took no prisoners as per the big Stevenage centre back captain Piergianni (or similar name) who would be ideal to come in and organise our back three……I think NJ will already know who he wants to bring in |
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Post by valley on Apr 21, 2024 8:44:28 GMT
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Post by reamsofverse on Apr 21, 2024 10:34:27 GMT
“We will bring in a number of players – we know exactly the positions we want to bring them in. All those players will be of a level that they improve the 11. We don’t want to bring squad players in because we have got a big enough squad. We have got young players and ones from the academy we will promote.[
None of the clubs who will go up this season of finish in the play-offs did so by promoting players from the academy. I see nothing that jumps out myself and it is totally the wrong way forward. That is a board decision so they need to take a step back and stop meddling in something they know nothing about as this season has proved.
Any youngsters that are good enough need to go out on loan to learn first team football, we cannot have another season when under par teenagers are learning on the job in our team. I am sick of this club cutting corners.
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Post by valley on Apr 21, 2024 10:52:46 GMT
Must invest in squad get it right Cafc.
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Post by seriouslyred on Apr 21, 2024 11:02:55 GMT
“We will bring in a number of players – we know exactly the positions we want to bring them in. All those players will be of a level that they improve the 11. We don’t want to bring squad players in because we have got a big enough squad. We have got young players and ones from the academy we will promote.[None of the clubs who will go up this season of finish in the play-offs did so by promoting players from the academy. I see nothing that jumps out myself and it is totally the wrong way forward. That is a board decision so they need to take a step back and stop meddling in something they know nothing about as this season has proved. Any youngsters that are good enough need to go out on loan to learn first team football, we cannot have another season when under par teenagers are learning on the job in our team. I am sick of this club cutting corners. Jones' statement appears 100% aligned to the 8-8-8 approach. We have the Academy players and squad players already, and need to improve the first XI. Nobody would argue that we require a new keeper, or that Small and Ramsay look good at wing back. But what's the vision for how we play next season? And what's the transfer budget?! |
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Post by sevenoaks on Apr 21, 2024 11:16:42 GMT
“We will bring in a number of players – we know exactly the positions we want to bring them in. All those players will be of a level that they improve the 11. We don’t want to bring squad players in because we have got a big enough squad. We have got young players and ones from the academy we will promote.[None of the clubs who will go up this season of finish in the play-offs did so by promoting players from the academy. I see nothing that jumps out myself and it is totally the wrong way forward. That is a board decision so they need to take a step back and stop meddling in something they know nothing about as this season has proved. Any youngsters that are good enough need to go out on loan to learn first team football, we cannot have another season when under par teenagers are learning on the job in our team. I am sick of this club cutting corners. Jones' statement appears 100% aligned to the 8-8-8 approach. We have the Academy players and squad players already, and need to improve the first XI. Nobody would argue that we require a new keeper, or that Small and Ramsay look good at wing back. But what's the vision for how we play next season? And what's the transfer budget?! Doubt they would ever say the budget, as automatically adds o's onto asking price for players. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Apr 21, 2024 13:01:33 GMT
Question for all…..does anyone genuinely believe that we have any players in our academy ready to step up next season and play regularly in a promotion chasing side? sorry but not me…..
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Post by seriouslyred on Apr 21, 2024 14:40:17 GMT
Question for all…..does anyone genuinely believe that we have any players in our academy ready to step up next season and play regularly in a promotion chasing side? sorry but not me….. Surely the question looking forwards is whether we should have an Academy that we rely on for four graduates every summer. These players, such as Ness, Campbell and Leaburn often provide cover and allow us not to rely upon quite so many journeymen. As posted several times before Academy player wages do NOT count towards the SCMP calculations so surely this is a free hit. The eight Academy players in next season's squad might contribute an average of 180 minutes per game, just as they have in the past. The squad isn't just the first XI - surely it's the matchday 18 that matters? |
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Post by aaronaldo on Apr 21, 2024 18:18:45 GMT
Question for all…..does anyone genuinely believe that we have any players in our academy ready to step up next season and play regularly in a promotion chasing side? sorry but not me….. I don’t expect we will use any promoted players much. No issues from me. We need to focus on the first ‘8’, which NJ seems to agree with. We;ve got plenty of squad quality players, despite what some say about not wanting them to play in a Charlton shirt again. Quite a few are good enough squad players. We need to massively improve the players in front of them, that's all. The answer to this is not in the academy. |
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Post by Mundell on Apr 21, 2024 20:31:30 GMT
Question for all…..does anyone genuinely believe that we have any players in our academy ready to step up next season and play regularly in a promotion chasing side? sorry but not me….. No, it’s very unlikely but I don’t think anyone is suggesting that. It’s only truly exceptional talent, like Shelvey, Gomez, Lookman and Konsa, for example, that might break through and immediately play regularly. What is possible though is that two or three academy players might make into the first team squad next season and contribute a few cameos or even regular appearances off the bench. This season those players were Asiimwe, Anderson and Kanu and while the latter two have probably played more than ideal, they’ve clearly contributed as full squad members. The point then is that these players progress obviously and next season Leaburn might become a regular starter, for example. What happens with Anderson and Kanu will be interesting. I’m not convinced either have the technical quality needed, but Jones seems to rate them both. Much might depend on how he wants to play. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Apr 21, 2024 20:54:39 GMT
Question for all…..does anyone genuinely believe that we have any players in our academy ready to step up next season and play regularly in a promotion chasing side? sorry but not me….. No, it’s very unlikely but I don’t think anyone is suggesting that. It’s only truly exceptional talent, like Shelvey, Gomez, Lookman and Konsa, for example, that might break through and immediately play regularly. What is possible though is that two or three academy players might make into the first team squad next season and contribute a few cameos or even regular appearances off the bench. This season those players were Asiimwe, Anderson and Kanu and while the latter two have probably played more than ideal, they’ve clearly contributed as full squad members. The point then is that these players progress obviously and next season Leaburn might become a regular starter, for example. What happens with Anderson and Kanu will be interesting. I’m not convinced either have the technical quality needed, but Jones seems to rate them both. Much might depend on how he wants to play. Rating Kanu and Anderson to put the hard work in for a relegation battle is different to rating them for a promotion push imo. |
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Apr 22, 2024 12:58:09 GMT
People be wanting rid of Tennai? He's the best right sided defender in League One. Or at least he is according to the stats site whoscored.com. This is their team of the season with a week to go:  PS Ramsay was rated the season's best right sided defender in League Two by the same site at the time we signed him. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Apr 22, 2024 13:56:10 GMT
People be wanting rid of Tennai? He's the best right sided defender in League One. Or at least he is according to the stats site whoscored.com. This is their team of the season with a week to go: View AttachmentPS Ramsay was rated the season's best right sided defender in League Two by the same site at the time we signed him. I think he'd be a solid squad player. If we can keep Ramsay fit then Tennai is fine as a backup. Just don't want him playing the majority of games. |
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Post by bexleyboy on Apr 23, 2024 6:08:06 GMT
People be wanting rid of Tennai? He's the best right sided defender in League One. Or at least he is according to the stats site whoscored.com. This is their team of the season with a week to go: View AttachmentPS Ramsay was rated the season's best right sided defender in League Two by the same site at the time we signed him. I think he'd be a solid squad player. If we can keep Ramsay fit then Tennai is fine as a backup. Just don't want him playing the majority of games. Watson been excellent he grew into the role and got better as the season went on .. we are very strong in the right back / wing back role |
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Post by seriouslyred on Apr 23, 2024 7:46:44 GMT
I think he'd be a solid squad player. If we can keep Ramsay fit then Tennai is fine as a backup. Just don't want him playing the majority of games. Watson been excellent he grew into the role and got better as the season went on .. we are very strong in the right back / wing back role And left wing back with Small. Plus a very good starting point at centre back and striker with strong additions required. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Apr 23, 2024 8:44:00 GMT
I think he'd be a solid squad player. If we can keep Ramsay fit then Tennai is fine as a backup. Just don't want him playing the majority of games. Watson been excellent he grew into the role and got better as the season went on .. we are very strong in the right back / wing back role Yep Watson has been outstanding, in fact the who lot of them have been fantastic, I think we are really unlucky to be 16th in the league, all down to bad luck and poor ref decisions……👍 |
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Post by seriouslyred on Apr 23, 2024 11:05:35 GMT
Watson been excellent he grew into the role and got better as the season went on .. we are very strong in the right back / wing back role Yep Watson has been outstanding, in fact the who lot of them have been fantastic, I think we are really unlucky to be 16th in the league, all down to bad luck and poor ref decisions……👍 All about opinions but nobody anywhere is stating that the squad is fantastic. At the same time we could easily have finished 9th but for x,y and z. Fact is that there's a consensus that we're good at wing back AND that we require a new keeper AND new spine. Time will tell who goes, who we land and how Jones intends to play. The owners, management and fans all wish to see our first top six finish since 2018/19. I'm confident we will get there but there will be bumps along the way. |
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Post by kings hill addick on Apr 23, 2024 11:44:17 GMT
Yep Watson has been outstanding, in fact the who lot of them have been fantastic, I think we are really unlucky to be 16th in the league, all down to bad luck and poor ref decisions……👍 All about opinions but nobody anywhere is stating that the squad is fantastic. At the same time we could easily have finished 9th but for x,y and z. Fact is that there's a consensus that we're good at wing back AND that we require a new keeper AND new spine. Time will tell who goes, who we land and how Jones intends to play. The owners, management and fans all wish to see our first top six finish since 2018/19. I'm confident we will get there but there will be bumps along the way. I know this sounds aggressive but I think we need to be aiming for a top two finish. Technically this is the current owners 4th transfer window. I'm happy to cut some slack because Jan 2023 was during a period of purchase and they were planning to keep the side up and build in the summer 2023. I'm, also, aware that last summer was not a full transfer window. However, GFP have now had three goes at appointing a manger, a proper January transfer window and, at least, nine months to assess the current squad and identify replacements. Top six this season (2023/24) would have been a great achievement, based on how long GFP had been in control, but anything less than promotion next season needs to be seen as a failure and the playoffs are little better then a one in four chance of promotion. |
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Post by seriouslyred on Apr 23, 2024 13:29:33 GMT
All about opinions but nobody anywhere is stating that the squad is fantastic. At the same time we could easily have finished 9th but for x,y and z. Fact is that there's a consensus that we're good at wing back AND that we require a new keeper AND new spine. Time will tell who goes, who we land and how Jones intends to play. The owners, management and fans all wish to see our first top six finish since 2018/19. I'm confident we will get there but there will be bumps along the way. I know this sounds aggressive but I think we need to be aiming for a top two finish. Technically this is the current owners 4th transfer window. I'm happy to cut some slack because Jan 2023 was during a period of purchase and they were planning to keep the side up and build in the summer 2023. I'm, also, aware that last summer was not a full transfer window. However, GFP have now had three goes at appointing a manger, a proper January transfer window and, at least, nine months to assess the current squad and identify replacements. Top six this season (2023/24) would have been a great achievement, based on how long GFP had been in control, but anything less than promotion next season needs to be seen as a failure and the playoffs are little better then a one in four chance of promotion. Not aggressive at all. Given our recent history, owners, management and fans should ALL aspire to two points per game. That equates to top four before Christmas, then one club drops out in 2025. Where SE7 / GFP might differ is that they were acting as interim management during the January 2023 window, controlling exits. But no budgets for long term player acquisitions as not their club. Similarly summer 2023 was mostly overseen by Sandgaard and Storrie as interim CEO. At the same time we can all agree that 2024 together with this 8-8-8 approach is 100% under SE7/GFP control. Nathan Jones has been very clear that there is alignment on the positions that require strengthening. But we don't know who we can attract nor how we will attempt to play. Nor who will be involved in player acquisition. To lift our club out of the doldrums we need to compete... need to leave the Sandgaard era in the rear view mirror by "being on the front foot"! |
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Post by manikin on Apr 23, 2024 14:48:22 GMT
All about opinions but nobody anywhere is stating that the squad is fantastic. At the same time we could easily have finished 9th but for x,y and z. Fact is that there's a consensus that we're good at wing back AND that we require a new keeper AND new spine. Time will tell who goes, who we land and how Jones intends to play. The owners, management and fans all wish to see our first top six finish since 2018/19. I'm confident we will get there but there will be bumps along the way. I know this sounds aggressive but I think we need to be aiming for a top two finish. Technically this is the current owners 4th transfer window. I'm happy to cut some slack because Jan 2023 was during a period of purchase and they were planning to keep the side up and build in the summer 2023. I'm, also, aware that last summer was not a full transfer window. However, GFP have now had three goes at appointing a manger, a proper January transfer window and, at least, nine months to assess the current squad and identify replacements. Top six this season (2023/24) would have been a great achievement, based on how long GFP had been in control, but anything less than promotion next season needs to be seen as a failure and the playoffs are little better then a one in four chance of promotion. Agree has to be top two, I'm getting to old for the playoffs, can't take the stress. Seriously we have to aim for top two and then the playoffs become a safety net, aim for the top six and we are liable to end up seventh. Has to be top two, COME ON YOU ADDICKS!! |
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Post by valley on Apr 23, 2024 15:41:06 GMT
Stuck with Chucks will he be better next season 😕.
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Post by manikin on Apr 23, 2024 16:18:35 GMT
Stuck with Chucks will he be better next season 😕. If your made of glass your fragile. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Apr 26, 2024 9:06:09 GMT
My list of players who I think may not be with us come the summer transfer window closure…….either by non renewal of contracts, sold or sent out on loan
Will be really interesting to see who NJ truly rates/ wants and who he doesn’t………
AMB
Dobson
Thomas
Hector
Watson
Fraser
Mcgrandles
DJ
Tayo
Taylor
Payne
Campbell
Kanu
Assime
Which basically leaves
Isted
REG
Gillesphey
Jones
Small
Ness
Ramsay
Coventry
Anderson
May
Leaburn
Aneke
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Post by aaronaldo on Apr 26, 2024 9:14:28 GMT
Think you need to add Ward to the top list?
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Post by aucklandaddick on Apr 26, 2024 9:17:02 GMT
Think you need to add Ward to the top list? Who is Ward? 😀 I didn’t include him as I thought he was in the same short term contact bracket as Wickham and Lua Lua |
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Post by kings hill addick on Apr 26, 2024 9:38:27 GMT
My list of players who I think may not be with us come the summer transfer window closure…….either by non renewal of contracts, sold or sent out on loan Will be really interesting to see who NJ truly rates/ wants and who he doesn’t……… AMB Dobson Thomas Hector Watson Fraser Mcgrandles DJ Tayo Taylor Payne Campbell Kanu Assime Which basically leaves Isted REG Gillesphey Jones Small Ness Ramsay Coventry Anderson May Leaburn Aneke You only have one Watson on that list. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Apr 26, 2024 10:08:13 GMT
My list of players who I think may not be with us come the summer transfer window closure…….either by non renewal of contracts, sold or sent out on loan Will be really interesting to see who NJ truly rates/ wants and who he doesn’t……… AMB Dobson Thomas Hector Watson Fraser Mcgrandles DJ Tayo Taylor Payne Campbell Kanu Assime Which basically leaves Isted REG Gillesphey Jones Small Ness Ramsay Coventry Anderson May Leaburn Aneke You only have one Watson on that list. Yep Tennai Watson….I haven’t included any of this seasons loans as they will go automatically……hence no Louis Watson…….or unless I have missed another Watson 😀 |
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Post by valley on Apr 27, 2024 21:28:55 GMT
Worse season in 98 years let the clearout begin next week.
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Post by chertseyaddick on May 1, 2024 14:07:38 GMT
The problem with 8.8.8 is that in the senior players we only have are May and Ramsay (Aneke?) guaranteed a start in experienced pro category. Small, Leaburn in growing influences. Plenty of talented kids, but they are going to be inconsistent with only four sure-pick starters.
For a promotion chasing side, any not mentioned above need to be moved out.
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