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Post by bigandy99 on Feb 4, 2024 17:15:48 GMT
After watching woeful attackers over the previous weeks and months I have to say that our tier 3 survival may well be in the hands of Mr Sicknote himself … please step up Mr Aneke! I can’t believe that I wrote that but Ladappo looks like a pub player and never looks like coming close to a goal. Think Ladapo stats say otherwise , yesterday he looked fitter still not where we want him to be but an improvement .. and there were signs of a partnership with May starting to bloom .. he led the line the well yesterday but that’s not his job .. Bexley, he was a bystander yesterday and a rubbish one at that.. took me back to Chris Dixon and Akpo Sodje… |
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Post by sittingbourne11 on Feb 4, 2024 17:32:10 GMT
I really hope that this appointment really works, the investors/ owners deserve a bit of luck this time. But sometimes you have to make your own luck , I think they have been badly advised in their first year in charge but by employing Jones they must be paying him a good wage and will have to stick by him . And wouldn’t it be great to have a journey home from the Valley when we can celebrate a win surely we are due one .
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Post by huddy1978 on Feb 4, 2024 17:41:21 GMT
Great appointment in my eyes, if he can replicate what he did with Luton then the future is bright.
I think as fans we may have to accept things won't change straight away and we'll have to give him all our backing through a tough period.
Will be interesting to see what happens with Fleming and Pearce, and of course Scott.
I hope we keep hold of Fleming and Pearce but sometimes the whole lot needs changing to move forward?.
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Post by cedric on Feb 4, 2024 18:01:43 GMT
This is fabulous news and seriously sends a signal out both in as much as the owners have got the message and that if we can beat the drop next year we will be a tough cookie- it will be a better League One next season particularly if Wrexham and Stockport do come up. If we better them then who knows what could happen next campaign.
Maximum respect for Jones for taking on what is one of the toughest jobs in football. I think that we will stay up and a feel good factor will start to trickle in.
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Post by bannerscafc39 on Feb 4, 2024 18:35:53 GMT
Over the moon with this appointment I've been saying for years now we need to get Natan Jones in. Feel more comfortable about this battle we have to stay in this league. Jones will definitely get the best out off this set off players we have. Starting with a 6 pointer Saturday at reading
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Post by chertseyaddick on Feb 4, 2024 18:45:52 GMT
Not convinced by Jones, but he has inherited a squad bought by Scott with four defensive midfielders (plus others that could do the job) plus at least five others who can barely manage an assist amongst them. Our best defender only merits a one year contract, and our top goalscorer is played out of position because we have so few experienced attacking players. No cover for Edun.
Scott needs to go. Jones may not know lower leagues but he will have worked with players he can trust to do specific jobs.
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Post by seriouslyred on Feb 4, 2024 19:20:03 GMT
Relieved that the appointment finally confirmed. He's watched a game (or more) and has coached some of our players before.
We can all look forward to how the 8-8-8 rebuild works over the summer with around half the squad on loan or out of contract.
But first of all we need a win. That means improving defense and attack. Looking forward to watching how we go vs Reading.
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Post by manikin on Feb 4, 2024 19:23:11 GMT
Not convinced by Jones, but he has inherited a squad bought by Scott with four defensive midfielders (plus others that could do the job) plus at least five others who can barely manage an assist amongst them. Our best defender only merits a one year contract, and our top goalscorer is played out of position because we have so few experienced attacking players. No cover for Edun. Scott needs to go. Jones may not know lower leagues but he will have worked with players he can trust to do specific jobs. Surely Jones does have lower league experience. |
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Post by paperboy on Feb 4, 2024 19:42:49 GMT
Finally we have signed a manager of some substance. I for one couldn’t be happier about the appointment. I now look forward to steady progress and yes it is a long term project, but hope to see some improvement when I watch them at Reading. Good luck Nathan.
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Post by paperboy on Feb 4, 2024 19:48:52 GMT
Not convinced by Jones, but he has inherited a squad bought by Scott with four defensive midfielders (plus others that could do the job) plus at least five others who can barely manage an assist amongst them. Our best defender only merits a one year contract, and our top goalscorer is played out of position because we have so few experienced attacking players. No cover for Edun. Scott needs to go. Jones may not know lower leagues but he will have worked with players he can trust to do specific jobs. Surely Jones does have lower league experience. Jones has previous experience of Leagues 1 and 2 with Luton Town. |
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Post by norfolkrobin on Feb 4, 2024 20:23:50 GMT
Good luck mr Jones. We have to stick with him even IF we get relegated. 100% this. Long term contract is encouraging to hear. SE7 to their credit have gone and got their man with visible evidence of what the foundations he helped lay have become (Luton) IF we fall,we have to swallow it and go again,I of course PRAY we don't,but we have our man now and have to trust his process. Manager Is also eye catching,obviously given a title with more heft and say as he ultimately should have a say with who comes in and out player wise. Welcome back Nathan,and good luck we're all behind you. |
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Post by essexaddick on Feb 4, 2024 20:49:07 GMT
Great appointment in my eyes, if he can replicate what he did with Luton then the future is bright. I think as fans we may have to accept things won't change straight away and we'll have to give him all our backing through a tough period. Will be interesting to see what happens with Fleming and Pearce, and of course Scott. I hope we keep hold of Fleming and Pearce but sometimes the whole lot needs changing to move forward?. Fleming hasn't been here long so isn't really part of the establishment. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Feb 4, 2024 20:56:25 GMT
Great appointment in my eyes, if he can replicate what he did with Luton then the future is bright. I think as fans we may have to accept things won't change straight away and we'll have to give him all our backing through a tough period. Will be interesting to see what happens with Fleming and Pearce, and of course Scott. I hope we keep hold of Fleming and Pearce but sometimes the whole lot needs changing to move forward?. Fleming hasn't been here long so isn't really part of the establishment. Fleming has a contract and he desereves to see it honoured. Pearce will go back to his Academy duties. |
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Post by mersthamred on Feb 4, 2024 21:16:52 GMT
I never thought Bournemouth would get back to the Premier League but they had solid foundations from Eddie Howe.
Luton have solid foundations from Nathan Jones and that is exactly what we have been missing and why our managers have failed.
We need a club builder, welcome Nathan!!!
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Post by massivebeak on Feb 4, 2024 21:24:21 GMT
Just catching up with this! fantastic news indeed- well done all involved for getting it over the line. We must give him the time he deserves contrary to our fickle nature though.
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Post by aucklandaddick on Feb 4, 2024 21:26:02 GMT
Loving all the positivity….but I will only get excited once we actually start winning football matches
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Post by 995632 on Feb 4, 2024 21:29:32 GMT
Not convinced by Jones, but he has inherited a squad bought by Scott with four defensive midfielders (plus others that could do the job) plus at least five others who can barely manage an assist amongst them. Our best defender only merits a one year contract, and our top goalscorer is played out of position because we have so few experienced attacking players. No cover for Edun. Scott needs to go. Jones may not know lower leagues but he will have worked with players he can trust to do specific jobs. "Not convinced by Jones"? Why? Who would you have prefered? Not trying to start a row, just genuinely interested in another point of view... Thanks |
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Post by chazhatter on Feb 4, 2024 21:30:53 GMT
Luton fan in peace - be vary wary of Nathan Jones, yes he did well for us (Luton Town), he was underhand in the stoke debacle, as for long term contract he signed a 5 year deal with us shortly before he left again for Southampton, the man will jump ship at the first opertunity he has no loyalty, its all about the money with him, as for laying the foundations at Luton, it was John Still Mick Harford, Gary Sweet & the board who did that, it was Mick Harford who got us promoted to the championship and Rob Edwards who got us promoted to the premier league he just hung on the coat tails and tried to take the credit, so just be wary of him - good luck for the rest of the season - good club, good supporters
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Post by Tom1982 on Feb 4, 2024 21:34:58 GMT
Luton fan in peace - be vary wary of Nathan Jones, yes he did well for us (Luton Town), he was underhand in the stoke debacle, as for long term contract he signed a 5 year deal with us shortly before he left again for Southampton, the man will jump ship at the first opertunity he has no loyalty, its all about the money with him, as for laying the foundations at Luton, it was John Still Mick Harford, Gary Sweet & the board who did that, it was Mick Harford who got us promoted to the championship and Rob Edwards who got us promoted to the premier league he just hung on the coat tails and tried to take the credit, so just be wary of him - good luck for the rest of the season - good club, good supporters Nahhhh you can poke all that negativity 😂 |
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Post by chazhatter on Feb 4, 2024 21:36:37 GMT
wait and see.....
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Post by valleyfaithful on Feb 4, 2024 21:39:55 GMT
Luton fan in peace - be vary wary of Nathan Jones, yes he did well for us (Luton Town), he was underhand in the stoke debacle, as for long term contract he signed a 5 year deal with us shortly before he left again for Southampton, the man will jump ship at the first opertunity he has no loyalty, its all about the money with him, as for laying the foundations at Luton, it was John Still Mick Harford, Gary Sweet & the board who did that, it was Mick Harford who got us promoted to the championship and Rob Edwards who got us promoted to the premier league he just hung on the coat tails and tried to take the credit, so just be wary of him - good luck for the rest of the season - good club, good supporters First of all, appreciate the comment - we're in desperate need of some good fortune. Appreciate Jones might not have been responsible for the build/overall project even if he tried to take credit for it - but surely as a manager he must have been half decent to actually get performances on the pitch?
It must have been a bit of a sucker punch when he left for Southampton after signing a long term deal, do you think that's soured your taste for him as a man, rather than his ability as a manager?
Think everyone on here just wants a manager that's going to get results for us - the rest can come later.
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Post by chazhatter on Feb 4, 2024 21:48:06 GMT
i just think there is no way we would have gone up to the championship with him in charge, or indeed the premier league, i just hope he dosent do you over like he did us, as i say a decent club with decent supporters
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Post by scabbyhorse on Feb 4, 2024 21:48:14 GMT
Luton fan in peace - be vary wary of Nathan Jones, yes he did well for us (Luton Town), he was underhand in the stoke debacle, as for long term contract he signed a 5 year deal with us shortly before he left again for Southampton, the man will jump ship at the first opertunity he has no loyalty, its all about the money with him, as for laying the foundations at Luton, it was John Still Mick Harford, Gary Sweet & the board who did that, it was Mick Harford who got us promoted to the championship and Rob Edwards who got us promoted to the premier league he just hung on the coat tails and tried to take the credit, so just be wary of him - good luck for the rest of the season - good club, good supporters Thanks, but on paper, he is the best we could have in our predicament. Anyways, enjoy the premier while you can; I’m not being derogatory because you are doing well, but the problems start once you get relegated. Additionally, I think you already answered the question Charlton fans would want to hear regarding Jones, when you say “yes he did well for us”. I will take doing well for us over anything I witnessed over the last 5 seasons! It’s all a gamble though. Can I ask what’s your take on Louie Watson? |
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Post by reamsofverse on Feb 4, 2024 21:58:30 GMT
Luton fan in peace - be vary wary of Nathan Jones, yes he did well for us (Luton Town), he was underhand in the stoke debacle, as for long term contract he signed a 5 year deal with us shortly before he left again for Southampton, the man will jump ship at the first opertunity he has no loyalty, its all about the money with him, as for laying the foundations at Luton, it was John Still Mick Harford, Gary Sweet & the board who did that, it was Mick Harford who got us promoted to the championship and Rob Edwards who got us promoted to the premier league he just hung on the coat tails and tried to take the credit, so just be wary of him - good luck for the rest of the season - good club, good supporters I must admit that he does have a huge passion for Cardiff City and it wouldn't surprise me if he has a clause written into every contract he has at another club which allows him to talk to Cardiff should that job come up. That's his boyhood dream so you never know. Glad he's ours though that's the main thing. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Feb 4, 2024 21:59:47 GMT
Luton fan in peace - be vary wary of Nathan Jones, yes he did well for us (Luton Town), he was underhand in the stoke debacle, as for long term contract he signed a 5 year deal with us shortly before he left again for Southampton, the man will jump ship at the first opertunity he has no loyalty, its all about the money with him, as for laying the foundations at Luton, it was John Still Mick Harford, Gary Sweet & the board who did that, it was Mick Harford who got us promoted to the championship and Rob Edwards who got us promoted to the premier league he just hung on the coat tails and tried to take the credit, so just be wary of him - good luck for the rest of the season - good club, good supporters First of all, appreciate the comment - we're in desperate need of some good fortune. Appreciate Jones might not have been responsible for the build/overall project even if he tried to take credit for it - but surely as a manager he must have been half decent to actually get performances on the pitch?
It must have been a bit of a sucker punch when he left for Southampton after signing a long term deal, do you think that's soured your taste for him as a man, rather than his ability as a manager?
Think everyone on here just wants a manager that's going to get results for us - the rest can come later.
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Post by chazhatter on Feb 4, 2024 22:01:44 GMT
thats very true, to be honest i cant stand the premier leauge, full of over paid prima donnas who would get slaughtered in non leauge football, i cant wait to get back to the championship, but we have at least given some of the premier leauge big boys a bloody nose in the process lol
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Post by scabbyhorse on Feb 4, 2024 22:07:56 GMT
Luton fan in peace - be vary wary of Nathan Jones, yes he did well for us (Luton Town), he was underhand in the stoke debacle, as for long term contract he signed a 5 year deal with us shortly before he left again for Southampton, the man will jump ship at the first opertunity he has no loyalty, its all about the money with him, as for laying the foundations at Luton, it was John Still Mick Harford, Gary Sweet & the board who did that, it was Mick Harford who got us promoted to the championship and Rob Edwards who got us promoted to the premier league he just hung on the coat tails and tried to take the credit, so just be wary of him - good luck for the rest of the season - good club, good supporters I must admit that he does have a huge passion for Cardiff City and it wouldn't surprise me if he has a clause written into every contract he has at another club which allows him to talk to Cardiff should that job come up. That's his boyhood dream so you never know. Glad he's ours though that's the main thing. 😂 You do know someone will take that as gospel, and post it all over twitter! |
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Post by paulgdownunder on Feb 4, 2024 23:53:55 GMT
This Luton fan has lined up a simple concern of mine, that i read earlier on, re Jones has a passion repeat PASSION for Cardiff City.OK perhaps well over 50%, may be 70 % percent of Football League managers may have a fave team, other than that, which they are professionally tied to,( a figure of pure guesswork) But if push comes to shove, with the predicament we are in ,this may be a factor of concern .In an ideal world a manager in the idium of Chris Powell or JJ with Charlton blood running in their vains would have made me feel, better But beggars cant be choosers.
On the plus side.I have an admiration for teams built around a sound defence, and attacks from the wings or a swift counter attack Perhaps NJ, being a defender, Will build such a successful team,like this at Charlton.I can only hope and pray that, treat a man right and he will treat us right, and he endears a lasting passion Charlton, as most of us have a second team. I am not suggesting NJ will be unprofessional,but human nature is what it is.In spite of the warm warnings of our friend at the Hatters
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Post by millwallfan on Feb 5, 2024 7:57:59 GMT
Luton fan in peace - be vary wary of Nathan Jones, yes he did well for us (Luton Town), he was underhand in the stoke debacle, as for long term contract he signed a 5 year deal with us shortly before he left again for Southampton, the man will jump ship at the first opertunity he has no loyalty, its all about the money with him, Have to say, I agree with this. Believe it or not but when we interviewed him, the sticking point was that Jones wanted a release clause in his contract, which our new chairman refused to give him. If SE7 partners have agreed to a release clause, then I would take heed of chazhatter’s advice. Jones has proven to be an ambitious, ruthless footballing manager (which was evident when he dumped Luton for Southampton), so be wary if he’s doing well for Charlton, because somewhere down the line I think he will jump ship when a better offer comes along which he thinks will serve him better. As bad as the results have been for us recently, I think Joe Edwards will be a better bet long term than had we given into Jones’ demands and went with him instead. Good luck. |
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Post by yorkshireaddick on Feb 5, 2024 8:24:08 GMT
Unfortunately loyalty is a dying character trait. And not just where the riches of football are concerned. I'm sure he hasn't been hired for his loyalty though.
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