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Post by cafcfan32 on Jan 26, 2024 17:04:10 GMT
Same old names of failed managers keep getting mentioned for the Charlton job it’s about time a fresh name is mentioned. Even Jones I’m not sure about he might be a one club wonder at Luton his periods at Stoke and Southampton don’t give you any confidence. Im not sure he can be judged on Southampton…he was there leass than three months…and they had the world cup during that time
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Post by watameires on Jan 26, 2024 17:08:27 GMT
Why would Alex Neill be “jobs for the boys”? I thought he had a link to CM at Sunderland? As in CM had a hand in his appointment? Apologies if wrong. Ah I see where you are coming from now. Don’t believe the timings matched but maybe
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Post by watameires on Jan 26, 2024 17:09:05 GMT
I’m personally not against the appointment of Neill . Worse names touted
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Post by watameires on Jan 26, 2024 17:10:07 GMT
Don’t see the point in a Warnock appointment personally
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Post by mersthamred on Jan 26, 2024 17:11:51 GMT
Same old names of failed managers keep getting mentioned for the Charlton job it’s about time a fresh name is mentioned. Even Jones I’m not sure about he might be a one club wonder at Luton his periods at Stoke and Southampton don’t give you any confidence. The names mentioned are good considering where we're at.
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Post by dartfordreds on Jan 26, 2024 17:12:07 GMT
If i was a betting man i would say it would be Nigel Pearson with Fleming and Euell as his assistants
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Post by mikebassett on Jan 26, 2024 17:18:09 GMT
Alex Neil would be a good appointment. He galvanised Sunderland and took them up. The issue was he wanted to go back towards Preston, where his family are based.
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Post by manikin on Jan 26, 2024 17:20:40 GMT
Same old names of failed managers keep getting mentioned for the Charlton job it’s about time a fresh name is mentioned. Even Jones I’m not sure about he might be a one club wonder at Luton his periods at Stoke and Southampton don’t give you any confidence. The names mentioned are good considering where we're at. Been quite surprised in the quality that has been mentioned compared with what we've had to put up with for years.
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Post by redplanet on Jan 26, 2024 17:27:31 GMT
Same old names of failed managers keep getting mentioned for the Charlton job it’s about time a fresh name is mentioned. Even Jones I’m not sure about he might be a one club wonder at Luton his periods at Stoke and Southampton don’t give you any confidence. Any fresh names you can share?
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Post by kings hill addick on Jan 26, 2024 17:29:50 GMT
Lump on Alex Neill. his performance at Sunderland will get him the job. Failed at Stoke but who doesn't Is he similar to Appleton though, in terms of not engaging with the fans? I feel like we need that as a club. Something Dean Holden was very good at. I don't disagree but, at this point, I'd rather have a manager that can, actually, win some games. Holden was chatty and all that but he didn't tear up any trees with his results.
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Post by kings hill addick on Jan 26, 2024 17:44:16 GMT
Same old names of failed managers keep getting mentioned for the Charlton job it’s about time a fresh name is mentioned. Even Jones I’m not sure about he might be a one club wonder at Luton his periods at Stoke and Southampton don’t give you any confidence. That's because we are in such a mess that they are the only men that will entertain managing us. Seriously I wouldn't take the manager or coach job at Charlton now. In fact, I wouldn't entertain working for any of the SMT or Methven. I'm not sure that any of them will still be at the club come August, and I'm quite sure that whoever comes in to take over from Appleton won't, either. Anyone that is, remotely, decent is going to be looking for a job at a much more stable club with a much more professional SMT.
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Post by zhengsociety on Jan 26, 2024 17:45:37 GMT
Alex Neil would be an extremely underwhelming appointment. Appleton in a kilt. The same Alex Neil who took Norwich to the Prem, got promoted with Sunderland and took Preston to their highest ever league position? You might not like him, but his body of work is much more impressive than Appletons.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 26, 2024 17:45:40 GMT
If Alex Neil is the man and he's living back up in Preston, bet your bottom dollar that he will be at Blackpool tomorrow.
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Post by kings hill addick on Jan 26, 2024 17:51:24 GMT
Alex Neil would be an extremely underwhelming appointment. Appleton in a kilt. The same Alex Neil who took Norwich to the Prem, got promoted with Sunderland and took Preston to their highest ever league position? You might not like him, but his body of work is much more impressive than Appletons. I don't want to split hairs but didn't Preston win the League and cup double without loosing a game in the league or conceding a goal in the FA Cup? That's slightly higher than 7th in the 'second' division isn't it?
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Post by pardew123 on Jan 26, 2024 17:54:46 GMT
Neil is no mug I’d be content with him and some proper signings in the summer he’s got much more to he’s bow than Apples has.
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Post by bilko on Jan 26, 2024 17:55:50 GMT
My Stoke bud told me Neil buggered up a good basis of a team and started tinkering. Lost support and then the team so looks like Apples2 to me Just as well we are shit to start with.
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Post by pardew123 on Jan 26, 2024 17:58:00 GMT
He also has a couple of promotions from championship we are league 1 so you’d fancy him to get us in and amongst it
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Post by ExeterAddick on Jan 26, 2024 18:00:29 GMT
I think it's a shame that Rowett isn't in the mix, although perhaps he fancies a Championship job
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Post by mitchcafc20077 on Jan 26, 2024 18:04:58 GMT
How long roughly do you think it takes us to appoint someone Reams?
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Post by pardew123 on Jan 26, 2024 18:09:49 GMT
Think Rowett wants to remain up north for family
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Post by sittingbourne11 on Jan 26, 2024 18:51:01 GMT
Preston is a long way from Charlton, so if Neil’s family won’t see much of him if he gets the job but he will boost his pension when he gets a 2 1/2 year contract with Charlton and guarantee he’s sacked within 12 months.
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Post by valley on Jan 26, 2024 18:57:25 GMT
Preston is a long way from Charlton, so if Neil’s family won’t see much of him if he gets the job but he will boost his pension when he gets a 2 1/2 year contract with Charlton and guarantee he’s sacked within 12 months. What's the point wanting too be a football manager if all your thinking of is a pay off?.We need some passion not an Appleton type again.Neil got teams promoted that's what a football manager aims for and bums on the seats.
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Post by newyorkaddick on Jan 26, 2024 19:17:35 GMT
Alex Neil has a reasonable record and is still relatively young but someone with his experience will expect to call the shots, not be beholden to Scott. It will be another Appleton scenario.
In my opinion we either have to:
a) replace Scott with a less 'threatening' hire, likely not a former manager; b) collapse the new segregated structure and revert to a traditional one; or c) hire a young head coach without much/any managerial experience who won't expect/demand full control.
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Post by Tom1982 on Jan 26, 2024 19:30:40 GMT
Is Andy Scott massively involved in first team affairs? I know he has a big input in player recruitment, but does he get involved in the tactical side? Do we know for sure??
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 26, 2024 20:23:50 GMT
Alex Neil would be an extremely underwhelming appointment. Appleton in a kilt. The same Alex Neil who took Norwich to the Prem, got promoted with Sunderland and took Preston to their highest ever league position? You might not like him, but his body of work is much more impressive than Appletons. Alternative view - flatlined with Preston, left Sunderland with the fans in uproar, and did a terrible job at his last club Stoke City . He’s also got the public persona of an undertaker who’s lost his hearse. No thanks. We need to be looking for something different.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 26, 2024 20:24:59 GMT
Being as
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 26, 2024 20:28:23 GMT
Being as Alex Neil is favourite for the job I have just had a look at whta type of players he goes after in the transfer window. The most he has spent is 11m on Tim Klose and Stevn Naismith, who funnily enough is the current Hearts manager who wants to sign Scott Fraser. www.transfermarkt.co.uk/alex-neil/spielertransfers/trainer/24018
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Post by zhengsociety on Jan 26, 2024 20:32:07 GMT
The same Alex Neil who took Norwich to the Prem, got promoted with Sunderland and took Preston’s to their highest ever league position? You might not like him, but his body of work is much more impressive than Appletons. Alternative view - flatlined with Preston, left Sunderland with the fans in uproar, and did a terrible job at his last club Stoke City . He’s also got the public persona of an undertaker who’s lost his hearse. No thanks. We need to be looking for something different. Yeah get he flatlined at Preston but I’d take flatlining in the championship over battling relegation in league one. For what it’s worth, I don’t particularly like him and never have. But I think he’s a good manager at this level, and an average one in the league above.
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Post by jwoodsboy on Jan 26, 2024 20:32:51 GMT
Being as Alex Neil is favourite for the job I have just had a look at whta type of players he goes after in the transfer window. The most he has spent is 11m on Tim Klose and Stevn Naismith, who funnily enough is the current Hearts manager who wants to sign Scott Fraser. www.transfermarkt.co.uk/alex-neil/spielertransfers/trainer/24018 My only concern with Neil is that is seems he prefers at 4 at the back rather than a back 3. The reason this is of concern is that if playing a back 4 you need wingers (unless you play a diamond) and our only winger is Campbell who wouldn’t look out of place a meridian on a Sunday! Reams you stated we are after a 10 and x2 wing backs which would suggest the club see us adopting a back 3 going forward… how would this fit with Alex Neil, has he had a side playing back 3 before? I know Nathan jones seems to prefer a back 3 I wouldn’t be opposed to a dimond though, a middle four of dobson in the holding role , Coventry, Camara either side and Fraser in the 10 would be immense if you could get them firing
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Post by zhengsociety on Jan 26, 2024 20:35:09 GMT
The same Alex Neil who took Norwich to the Prem, got promoted with Sunderland and took Preston to their highest ever league position? You might not like him, but his body of work is much more impressive than Appletons. I don't want to split hairs but didn't Preston win the League and cup double without loosing a game in the league or conceding a goal in the FA Cup? That's slightly higher than 7th in the 'second' division isn't it? Yeah fair enough. Although that was in the 1800s. He gave them their highest league position in the last decade or so. My mistake 🙏
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