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Post by AndyAddick on Jan 26, 2024 12:25:57 GMT
I have just read on another fans forum that Scott Parker (now connected to Plymouth) could be available This reader is a bit bemused as to why Charlton supporters have not mentioned him ,and i think he may have a point,But goes on to say that his ego wouldn;t cope with a drop down to us,But if it were up to ego only, which manager would come to us at this point in time ? IMO there are basically two things that may bring a manager to our, club that would overcome an ego problem And they are, the obvious,Money and two Someone who has the blood of the club in their heart, and is also up for a massive challenge.A combination of both would be a Godsend. Whether that peson has the man management and strategic technical nous is another thing I know very little about SP, only that he was a tenacious tackler, to winning the ball, and setting up the attack, This is to me, a plus that would relate to his attitude to management, Secondly i think that, like me, who only knew snippets of his caracter,so there for i am probably wrong. is that he dudded Charlton, and left for Chelski. Lets be honest here, how many young, up and coming players, have left Charlton for better prospects, over the years? I dont know the situaton, as it happened I would be interested in supporters opinions on an approach for S P no problem with SP getting the job, all this fake vitriol spewed by the many thicko's , its a JOB ffs |
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Post by manikin on Jan 26, 2024 12:33:07 GMT
We would get a quality manager in if he was paid a decent wage with bonuses for success, shown commitment on the transfer front, then convince him the owners have real ambition for the club and prepared to back him all the way.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 26, 2024 12:53:04 GMT
Lump on Alex Neill. his performance at Sunderland will get him the job.
Failed at Stoke but who doesn't
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Post by clarky on Jan 26, 2024 13:02:27 GMT
I was told it's come down to Jones, Neil, Eustace and Duff. The favourite could nicked Patrick Bauer from us. He owes us one, and hopefully will put right his wrong if he gets the job!! Any of those is certainly a step up. Going off the idea of Jones though. |
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Post by madz on Jan 26, 2024 13:08:33 GMT
I still think Appleton was a panic appointment. Not many managers available at the time and i think SMT were surprised that their main targets probably turned us down. Pure speculation i admit, but sacking Holden so quickly seemed a bit random to me at the time and i thought him going meant they had some name lined up already, which didn't happen. We weren't playing well granted but he was still building a team. You could argue that Appleton was still building, but he lost the fans very quickly and that's extremely hard to come back from without changing results which he never looked like doing.
I like the idea of Parker as a choice, but would imagine he, like Jones would probably want a decent wage so is that really feasible? Yes according to Cawley we have put an offer to Jones but is it one he would realistically take. If we have offered him a short and a long term option i would say we are probably way off his wage expectations or career expectations, other wise just offer him the role even on 1.5 years. If we are going to for an "until the end of the season" option, might as well stick with Fleming and Pearce (unless they royally screw up too).
We need what Holden did when he first came in. Someone to get the basics right. It worked. Warnock could do that and if its with the intent of upskilling Fleming and Pearce it wouldn't be a bad shout.
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Post by gmantaxi on Jan 26, 2024 13:15:11 GMT
Alex Neil 1-2 now , 🤔
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Post by aaronaldo on Jan 26, 2024 13:30:38 GMT
I was told it's come down to Jones, Neil, Eustace and Duff. The favourite could nicked Patrick Bauer from us. He owes us one, and hopefully will put right his wrong if he gets the job!! I hope this list is true. Much better list than the names we've been linked to before imo. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Jan 26, 2024 13:36:58 GMT
Lump on Alex Neill. his performance at Sunderland will get him the job. Failed at Stoke but who doesn't Is he similar to Appleton though, in terms of not engaging with the fans? I feel like we need that as a club. Something Dean Holden was very good at. |
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Post by charltontillidiecoyr on Jan 26, 2024 13:37:47 GMT
I was told it's come down to Jones, Neil, Eustace and Duff. The favourite could nicked Patrick Bauer from us. He owes us one, and hopefully will put right his wrong if he gets the job!! Are they all still at early stages of discussions or one more further along ? Who do you think would be best fit for us |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 26, 2024 13:42:53 GMT
I was told it's come down to Jones, Neil, Eustace and Duff. The favourite could nicked Patrick Bauer from us. He owes us one, and hopefully will put right his wrong if he gets the job!! Are they all still at early stages of discussions or one more further along ? Who do you think would be best fit for us Much further down the track mate. I would expect it to be announced fairly soon. |
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Post by se7sm on Jan 26, 2024 14:21:15 GMT
I have just read on another fans forum that Scott Parker (now connected to Plymouth) could be available This reader is a bit bemused as to why Charlton supporters have not mentioned him ,and i think he may have a point,But goes on to say that his ego wouldn;t cope with a drop down to us,But if it were up to ego only, which manager would come to us at this point in time ? IMO there are basically two things that may bring a manager to our, club that would overcome an ego problem And they are, the obvious,Money and two Someone who has the blood of the club in their heart, and is also up for a massive challenge.A combination of both would be a Godsend. Whether that peson has the man management and strategic technical nous is another thing I know very little about SP, only that he was a tenacious tackler, to winning the ball, and setting up the attack, This is to me, a plus that would relate to his attitude to management, Secondly i think that, like me, who only knew snippets of his caracter,so there for i am probably wrong. is that he dudded Charlton, and left for Chelski. Lets be honest here, how many young, up and coming players, have left Charlton for better prospects, over the years? I dont know the situaton, as it happened I would be interested in supporters opinions on an approach for S P no problem with SP getting the job, all this fake vitriol spewed by the many thicko's , its a JOB ffs That’s the trouble too many fucking thickos don’t know they’re actually thickos. |
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Post by pardew123 on Jan 26, 2024 14:24:14 GMT
Alex neil would be a safe pair of hands he would get us solid again I’d prefer jones personally but wouldn’t mind Neil he would be a coup for a league 1 side I think he’s a championship manager
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Post by Eddiecafc01 on Jan 26, 2024 14:26:02 GMT
Alex Neil is similar to Michael Appleton
Doesn’t engage with Fans
No engagement with players
Stay clear
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Post by jacksalescafc on Jan 26, 2024 14:39:11 GMT
Alex Neil is similar to Michael Appleton Doesn’t engage with Fans No engagement with players Stay clear I couldn’t care less personally, as long as he makes the team perform and gets results. I want a manager that gets results, not a mate. Dean’s pints down the oak didn’t get us anywhere. |
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Post by madz on Jan 26, 2024 14:42:33 GMT
Alex Neil is similar to Michael Appleton Doesn’t engage with Fans No engagement with players Stay clear I couldn’t care less personally, as long as he makes the team perform and gets results. I want a manager that gets results, not a mate. Dean’s pints down the oak didn’t get us anywhere. Have to admit i agree. Obviously don't insult the fans (or offer them out, although to be fair i am not convinced that's what Appleton meant), but i would rather they performed on the pitch than had a pint with us. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Jan 26, 2024 14:52:19 GMT
Alex Neil is similar to Michael Appleton Doesn’t engage with Fans No engagement with players Stay clear I couldn’t care less personally, as long as he makes the team perform and gets results. I want a manager that gets results, not a mate. Dean’s pints down the oak didn’t get us anywhere. That is kinda the point though isn't it? If results are good then everyones happy. Ask fans who have had Appleton as manager. "When it's great, it's really great, but when it's bad it's awful". If you don't have the fans or players connecting with the manager, like Curtis mentioned, then the players aren't giving that extra effort to turn bad results/ run of results around. So bad runs are horrendous. It's a concern for me. |
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Post by sittingbourne11 on Jan 26, 2024 14:55:15 GMT
Alex Neil is an absolute waste of space another manager looking to top up his pension pot and has been a failure ware ever he turns up.
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Post by aaronaldo on Jan 26, 2024 15:00:25 GMT
I was told it's come down to Jones, Neil, Eustace and Duff. The favourite could nicked Patrick Bauer from us. He owes us one, and hopefully will put right his wrong if he gets the job!! What the SMT need to remember is that Appleton apparently really impressed them. Could they be seeing the same thing again? |
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Post by midlandsaddick on Jan 26, 2024 15:00:28 GMT
Alex Neil is an absolute waste of space another manager looking to top up his pension pot and has been a failure ware ever he turns up. Just the 3 promotions, 2 of which to the premier league and recently getting Sunderland up to the championship...much better than any we've had recently |
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Post by charltonforlife on Jan 26, 2024 15:01:17 GMT
Even though it never nice seeing someone lose their job Apples was clearly not the caliber manager we need.
I put the case forward for Michael Duff.
1) Clearly proven in this division.
2) Built a great team spirit at Cheltenham, got promoted from league 2 and was very competitive in league one with Cheltenham and avoided relegation comfortably and you could say prospered with the limited resources at his disposal.
3) Managed Barnsley last season and having seen them play in 7 occasions whilst visiting family I witnessed a really competitive, well above average league 1 team and performances. Attractive, committed football to watch. Even outplayed Sheff Wed in final and think if they hadn’t lost the player in first 20mins of final would have beat Sheff Wed that day.
4) Clearly can motivate players and clearly has the tactical nous.
5) No weight should be given to Swansea appointment - was never going to fit. All this the “the Swansea way” you immediately are on a loser if you try to implement your style of football which has been successful into a team and supporter base that doesn’t have the flexibility to accept it and run with it. So that was the wrong club for a manager who has built up proven way of playing 3-5-2. Which happens to coincide with what we should be playing with the players we have at our disposal. Michael Duff works in league 1 with a 3-5-2 and and hence we should go all out to appoint him ASAP ( Before somebody else sees the merits in having him as their manager ).
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Post by valley on Jan 26, 2024 15:02:00 GMT
If Alex O Neill what sort of signings next week?.
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Post by ediaddick on Jan 26, 2024 15:06:10 GMT
My Stoke bud told me Neil buggered up a good basis of a team and started tinkering. Lost support and then the team so looks like Apples2 to me
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Post by AndyB on Jan 26, 2024 15:06:14 GMT
Lump on Alex Neill. his performance at Sunderland will get him the job. Failed at Stoke but who doesn't Is he similar to Appleton though, in terms of not engaging with the fans? I feel like we need that as a club. Something Dean Holden was very good at. I’d be happy if he could engage with the squad and sort them out , anything else is a bonus |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 26, 2024 15:41:55 GMT
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Post by sittingbourne11 on Jan 26, 2024 15:46:17 GMT
Not for me Warnock & Neil can both take a running jump, I can imagine Palarse fans being over joyed if Warnock takes us down.
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Post by norfolkrobin on Jan 26, 2024 15:54:33 GMT
Alex Neil? Is this just jobs for the boys again?
Warnock's body of work is incredible,but that is just short termism again.
Jones is the clear choice,the work he did at Luton is what we're after isn't it?
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Post by watameires on Jan 26, 2024 16:19:42 GMT
Alex Neil? Is this just jobs for the boys again? Warnock's body of work is incredible,but that is just short termism again. Jones is the clear choice,the work he did at Luton is what we're after isn't it? Why would Alex Neill be “jobs for the boys”? |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 26, 2024 16:29:34 GMT
Alex Neil would be an extremely underwhelming appointment.
Appleton in a kilt.
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Post by sittingbourne11 on Jan 26, 2024 16:38:02 GMT
Same old names of failed managers keep getting mentioned for the Charlton job it’s about time a fresh name is mentioned. Even Jones I’m not sure about he might be a one club wonder at Luton his periods at Stoke and Southampton don’t give you any confidence.
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Post by norfolkrobin on Jan 26, 2024 16:40:49 GMT
Alex Neil? Is this just jobs for the boys again? Warnock's body of work is incredible,but that is just short termism again. Jones is the clear choice,the work he did at Luton is what we're after isn't it? Why would Alex Neill be “jobs for the boys”? I thought he had a link to CM at Sunderland? As in CM had a hand in his appointment? Apologies if wrong. |
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