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Post by ardrohanlil on Jan 25, 2024 8:51:34 GMT
I would love him to br our manager, one of my all time favourites. Mine too and he wants to manage us one day he said My favourite defender. He would get everyone sorted. Can't see it as he wouldn't let Scott make decisions about team selection and tactics. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 25, 2024 8:53:06 GMT
Plenty of ex-players names in the mix for the managers job but no mention yet of Jorge Costa, currently In charge of Portuguese L3 leaders AVS. Is that a hint, Reams? How well would he understand L1 though - Portugal’s L3 probably equivalent to National League at best. I really don’t know how much of a poisoned chalice managers might see us as now. I’m guessing most currently without a job just wanna get back on the horse ASAP though given that if you stay out too long you’re seen as a has-been. If we can’t get the bloke we want right now, ask Curbs to hold the reins for the rest of the season. He knows this league from CTV and he would command instant respect. No not a hint but he did say this three season's ago. |
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Post by cafcph on Jan 25, 2024 9:54:49 GMT
Is that a hint, Reams? How well would he understand L1 though - Portugal’s L3 probably equivalent to National League at best. I really don’t know how much of a poisoned chalice managers might see us as now. I’m guessing most currently without a job just wanna get back on the horse ASAP though given that if you stay out too long you’re seen as a has-been. If we can’t get the bloke we want right now, ask Curbs to hold the reins for the rest of the season. He knows this league from CTV and he would command instant respect. No not a hint but he did say this three season's ago. great player and one of my favourites, but his managerial career isn’t so hot lol en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorge_Costa |
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Post by watameires on Jan 25, 2024 9:56:27 GMT
Hard pass on him from me due to his managerial career / prolonged absence from the game in the UK
Take his past connection to Charlton out and there would be no justifiable reason to appoint him
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Post by kings hill addick on Jan 25, 2024 10:04:17 GMT
If Johnson or Pearson got the job then I could see even more hostility than what Appleton got. Pearson is another Appleton to me. Leicester aside, his record is poor. Hard pass. Totally agree. In truth whoever gets the gig it is going to be a rough ride but if you got in a manager/coach that supporters could relate to it would be a step in the right direction. Neither Johnson or Pearson are likely to tick that box whereas a Duff or a Eustace probably would. Maybe I'm being thick but who is Johnson? Not Boris, surely? |
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Post by sevenoaks on Jan 25, 2024 10:08:54 GMT
Totally agree. In truth whoever gets the gig it is going to be a rough ride but if you got in a manager/coach that supporters could relate to it would be a step in the right direction. Neither Johnson or Pearson are likely to tick that box whereas a Duff or a Eustace probably would. Maybe I'm being thick but who is Johnson? Not Boris, surely? Horrible Lee I presume. |
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Post by newyorkaddick on Jan 25, 2024 10:12:04 GMT
I lost nearly all confidence in the SMT after they appointed Appleton writing this on the day: "Completely underwhelming appointment and remarkably unimaginative. Beats me how this is an upgrade on Holden."
Because in my opinion they are not at all aligned with the best interests of the club but instead their job security, I fear they will now go for a dumb populist appointment.
The current club structure may be a good one (when roles are filled by competent people) but it does not lend itself to efficient and rapid decision-making especially during a crisis like this one.
A competent SMT would have a shortlist of potential head coaches identified and even in contact with at all times, but instead I suspect they are just fishing around for any vaguely credible candidate that will appease fans and not threaten their position.
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Post by kings hill addick on Jan 25, 2024 10:21:48 GMT
Maybe I'm being thick but who is Johnson? Not Boris, surely? Horrible Lee I presume. Hell no! I would rather have Appleton back than Lee Johnson. |
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Post by bexleyboy on Jan 25, 2024 10:25:44 GMT
People trying to find the perfect manager .. never going to happen .. all managers have a good spell and poor spell .. Nathen Jones excellent at Luton but very poor at Stoke and Southampton but he will wanted by the fans .Ainsworth everybody would have taken him from Wycombe but now don’t go there because of a few months at QPR … Appleton was the same good and bad and so will the next manager … you just hope he clicks with us and it’s a good spell ?
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Post by bexleyboy on Jan 25, 2024 10:27:35 GMT
I lost nearly all confidence in the SMT after they appointed Appleton writing this on the day: "Completely underwhelming appointment and remarkably unimaginative. Beats me how this is an upgrade on Holden." Because in my opinion they are not at all aligned with the best interests of the club but instead their job security, I fear they will now go for a dumb populist appointment. The current club structure may be a good one (when roles are filled by competent people) but it does not lend itself to efficient and rapid decision-making especially during a crisis like this one. A competent SMT would have a shortlist of potential head coaches identified and even in contact with at all times, but instead I suspect they are just fishing around for any vaguely credible candidate that will appease fans and not threaten their position. How do you know they don’t ? They won’t make a rapid decision and don’t expect them to |
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Post by leedsaddick on Jan 25, 2024 10:34:46 GMT
I lost nearly all confidence in the SMT after they appointed Appleton writing this on the day: "Completely underwhelming appointment and remarkably unimaginative. Beats me how this is an upgrade on Holden." Because in my opinion they are not at all aligned with the best interests of the club but instead their job security, I fear they will now go for a dumb populist appointment. The current club structure may be a good one (when roles are filled by competent people) but it does not lend itself to efficient and rapid decision-making especially during a crisis like this one. A competent SMT would have a shortlist of potential head coaches identified and even in contact with at all times, but instead I suspect they are just fishing around for any vaguely credible candidate that will appease fans and not threaten their position. Just building on your post, I think we need to factor in who is available and how much money do they want. By availabity I mean managers in existing jobs that need to be enticed out of their club, or if out of work, there may be clauses in contracts where as part of their exit, they cant join another Club for a fixed period of time. I know that this happens in other business sectors. If they want silly money that we arent prepared to pay, then we end up with mediocraty .... its just my view |
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Post by seriouslyred on Jan 25, 2024 10:46:31 GMT
I lost nearly all confidence in the SMT after they appointed Appleton writing this on the day: "Completely underwhelming appointment and remarkably unimaginative. Beats me how this is an upgrade on Holden." Because in my opinion they are not at all aligned with the best interests of the club but instead their job security, I fear they will now go for a dumb populist appointment. The current club structure may be a good one (when roles are filled by competent people) but it does not lend itself to efficient and rapid decision-making especially during a crisis like this one. A competent SMT would have a shortlist of potential head coaches identified and even in contact with at all times, but instead I suspect they are just fishing around for any vaguely credible candidate that will appease fans and not threaten their position. Les Reed was very clear that at Southampton they had clear sight of both players and coaches ready for when Spurs, Liverpool or some other club picked off their best. One would hope that Andy Scott has the same even if he's not as well connected and practiced as Reed. As for the SMT huddling together and acting in their own interests? That approach doesn't survive long with the Charlton audience nor on the pitch! As posted before, investors may well be sorely tempted to employ their own consultants later this year if Methven and the SMT can't get a grip. They've committed £25M in terms of acquisition price and two years losses. That's nothing compared to their personal wealth but they may look to "actively manage" their investment if we keep sinking? This in turn should help focus the SMT on delivering a win for CAFC and/or shaking up one or two. |
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Post by sittingbourne11 on Jan 25, 2024 10:56:48 GMT
I will put a name out for the job though he probably wouldn’t be allowed due not to having the correct badges, Patrick Bauer he’s the centre half we need and all German managers seem too do reasonable well when they get jobs in this country Probably a silly suggestion but it would certainly be different.
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Post by 1978sussex on Jan 25, 2024 11:00:03 GMT
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Post by newyorkaddick on Jan 25, 2024 11:08:08 GMT
I lost nearly all confidence in the SMT after they appointed Appleton writing this on the day: "Completely underwhelming appointment and remarkably unimaginative. Beats me how this is an upgrade on Holden." Because in my opinion they are not at all aligned with the best interests of the club but instead their job security, I fear they will now go for a dumb populist appointment. The current club structure may be a good one (when roles are filled by competent people) but it does not lend itself to efficient and rapid decision-making especially during a crisis like this one. A competent SMT would have a shortlist of potential head coaches identified and even in contact with at all times, but instead I suspect they are just fishing around for any vaguely credible candidate that will appease fans and not threaten their position. How do you know they don’t ? They won’t make a rapid decision and don’t expect them to I don't obviously but nothing they have done so far would suggest anything like this level of professionalism. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Jan 25, 2024 11:29:58 GMT
Looks like everyone is betting on Nathan Jones at the moment then. Likely due to the rumour (if you can call it that) from facebook that he's got the job. Rumour hasn't come from anyone linked to Charlton 'ITKs' though. |
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Post by midlandsaddick on Jan 25, 2024 11:32:53 GMT
Looks like everyone is betting on Nathan Jones at the moment then. Likely due to the rumour (if you can call it that) from facebook that he's got the job. Rumour hasn't come from anyone linked to Charlton 'ITKs' though. Believe it's come from this mate |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 25, 2024 11:43:50 GMT
I lost nearly all confidence in the SMT after they appointed Appleton writing this on the day: "Completely underwhelming appointment and remarkably unimaginative. Beats me how this is an upgrade on Holden." Because in my opinion they are not at all aligned with the best interests of the club but instead their job security, I fear they will now go for a dumb populist appointment. The current club structure may be a good one (when roles are filled by competent people) but it does not lend itself to efficient and rapid decision-making especially during a crisis like this one. A competent SMT would have a shortlist of potential head coaches identified and even in contact with at all times, but instead I suspect they are just fishing around for any vaguely credible candidate that will appease fans and not threaten their position. Les Reed was very clear that at Southampton they had clear sight of both players and coaches ready for when Spurs, Liverpool or some other club picked off their best. One would hope that Andy Scott has the same even if he's not as well connected and practiced as Reed. As for the SMT huddling together and acting in their own interests? That approach doesn't survive long with the Charlton audience nor on the pitch! As posted before, investors may well be sorely tempted to employ their own consultants later this year if Methven and the SMT can't get a grip. They've committed £25M in terms of acquisition price and two years losses. That's nothing compared to their personal wealth but they may look to "actively manage" their investment if we keep sinking? This in turn should help focus the SMT on delivering a win for CAFC and/or shaking up one or two. Have a listen to last night’s excellent Charlton Live podcast, hosted by the ubiquitous Louis Mendez. 6/7 Charlton fans on the panel - and the bizarre and almost unique governance structure at the club was discussed. Put simply - the SMT (Methven, Rodwell and Scott) chose the investors. They put a plan together - you almost call them football club cuckoos - and then sought investors money to implement it, possibly on the understanding that the relationship was hands off, with the SMT having full , day to day control of the club. As Charlton Live highlighted, the crunch was always going to come if the SMT did not perform well - which they haven’t - prompting questions about why more money was being asked for (for pay offs, for instance), why money was being frittered away (same reason), and why so many of the SMT’s decisions so far haven’t worked out. It’s an interesting & troubling debate - Charlton Athletic - a club where the employees chose the bosses 😯 |
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Post by paulo on Jan 25, 2024 11:48:39 GMT
Its almost as if they are playing real life championship manager!!!
Let's hope they can (like i did back in the day, take CAFC to the Premier league)
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Post by clarky on Jan 25, 2024 11:49:27 GMT
Les Reed was very clear that at Southampton they had clear sight of both players and coaches ready for when Spurs, Liverpool or some other club picked off their best. One would hope that Andy Scott has the same even if he's not as well connected and practiced as Reed. As for the SMT huddling together and acting in their own interests? That approach doesn't survive long with the Charlton audience nor on the pitch! As posted before, investors may well be sorely tempted to employ their own consultants later this year if Methven and the SMT can't get a grip. They've committed £25M in terms of acquisition price and two years losses. That's nothing compared to their personal wealth but they may look to "actively manage" their investment if we keep sinking? This in turn should help focus the SMT on delivering a win for CAFC and/or shaking up one or two. Have a listen to last night’s excellent Charlton Live podcast, hosted by the ubiquitous Louis Mendez. 6/7 Charlton fans on the panel - and the bizarre and almost unique governance structure at the club was discussed. Put simply - the SMT (Methven, Rodwell and Scott) chose the investors. They put a plan together - you almost call them football club cuckoos - and then sought investors money to implement it, possibly on the understanding that the relationship was hands off, with the SMT having full , day to day control of the club. As Charlton Live highlighted, the crunch was always going to come if the SMT did not perform well - which they haven’t - prompting questions about why more money was being asked for (for pay offs, for instance), why money was being frittered away (same reason), and why so many of the SMT’s decisions so far haven’t worked out. It’s an interesting & troubling debate - Charlton Athletic - a club where the employees chose the bosses 😯 Add Warrick to that, he was in it from the start. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2024 11:54:43 GMT
Come on who we getting someone must know.
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Post by cafcph on Jan 25, 2024 11:55:25 GMT
Left field, but if we are looking for a manager doing a great job currently, you’ve got Andy Woodman on our doorstep at Bromley.
He did turn Gillingham down the other year!
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Post by watameires on Jan 25, 2024 12:39:02 GMT
Left field, but if we are looking for a manager doing a great job currently, you’ve got Andy Woodman on our doorstep at Bromley. He did turn Gillingham down the other year! Sounds like he has good judgment then |
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Post by lewisham on Jan 25, 2024 12:42:45 GMT
I think Jorge Costa is a great shout. Since 76 all our promotions have been achieved with an ex player in charge, apart from Lennie Lawrence
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Post by AndyAddick on Jan 25, 2024 12:49:17 GMT
I'd like to see some like Lee Carsley, ambitious well grounded, previous success, knows the league structure very very well , has excellent contacts.
I doubt he would work with Scott in the current 'role'
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Post by AndyAddick on Jan 25, 2024 12:52:59 GMT
I think Jorge Costa is a great shout. Since 76 all our promotions have been achieved with an ex player in charge, apart from Lennie Lawrence FFS , give it up with Ex players !! credit where credits due tho the validation of an ex player being "promotions have been achieved with an ex player in charge" , even tho that player may have played 20+ years prior to him managing the club! |
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Post by manikin on Jan 25, 2024 12:54:30 GMT
Jorge Costa great player, manager record underwhelming, knowledge of League's 1 & 2 English football zero. Odds at be a success low.
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Post by chertseyaddick on Jan 25, 2024 13:27:35 GMT
Dave Chalinor at a lower level has had multiple promotions and improved sides with no big budgets. But a shoe-in to be in our division next season, assuming we stay up. He I am sure, won't move location. I believe it was reason for leaving Hartlepool.. Think he said also that he was not interested before MA arrived. Staying in NW obviously a deal-breaker, but turning us down with unfinished business at Stockport is one thing; they don't have the resources to go higher than L1. Ask him in June. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Jan 25, 2024 13:30:47 GMT
He I am sure, won't move location. I believe it was reason for leaving Hartlepool.. Think he said also that he was not interested before MA arrived. Staying in NW obviously a deal-breaker, but turning us down with unfinished business at Stockport is one thing; they don't have the resources to go higher than L1. Ask him in June.It's a good point to make. Could we see a temporary manager (like Warnock) come in to settle the ship (or shit) so that a long term manager could be signed in the summer? |
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Post by crapgame on Jan 25, 2024 13:32:03 GMT
Everyone keeps quoting the same names who are 'available' but is there anyone out there who is currently 'in a job' who we think would be a good fit? I know it would mean 'compensation' to his current club but what if they are the 'best fit' for our club?
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