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Post by aucklandaddick on Sept 8, 2023 21:02:42 GMT
If you think Appleton has gone down badly on here, try popping over to CL where it appears we have appointed the antichrist. He wasn't my ideal choice by some margin, but he is our manager now and we should give him our full support. Usually new managers get a honeymoon period whilst they try to stamp their influence on the team…. but this decision to appoint has not gone down well at all across a fair proportion of the fan base if social media is to be judged and so rightly or wrongly the guy is under pressure right from the off…. and if this goes belly up Scott should also be under pressure |
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Post by clarky on Sept 8, 2023 21:07:07 GMT
If you think Appleton has gone down badly on here, try popping over to CL where it appears we have appointed the antichrist. He wasn't my ideal choice by some margin, but he is our manager now and we should give him our full support. Agreed. One thing this appointment has done is reunite the fanbase who the vast majority believe is the wrong choice. I am so negative at the moment but I/we need him to do well and I so want him to. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Sept 8, 2023 21:11:43 GMT
If you think Appleton has gone down badly on here, try popping over to CL where it appears we have appointed the antichrist. He wasn't my ideal choice by some margin, but he is our manager now and we should give him our full support. Agreed. One thing this appointment has done is reunite the fanbase who the vast majority believe is the wrong choice. I am so negative at the moment but I/we need him to do well and I so want him to. With a fully fit midfield of Dobson, Fraser, Camara and Chem Campbell , CBT ,May and Leaburn up top I don’t have concerns about our ability to score goals If Appleton can come in and get the defence improved, organised and stop conceding soft silly goals he will give himself a chance to succeed IMO |
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 8, 2023 21:19:42 GMT
If you think Appleton has gone down badly on here, try popping over to CL where it appears we have appointed the antichrist. He wasn't my ideal choice by some margin, but he is our manager now and we should give him our full support. Thanks for the heads up mate. CL eh, the gift that just keeps on giving. |
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Post by clarky on Sept 8, 2023 21:34:55 GMT
If you think Appleton has gone down badly on here, try popping over to CL where it appears we have appointed the antichrist. He wasn't my ideal choice by some margin, but he is our manager now and we should give him our full support. Thanks for the heads up mate. CL eh, the gift that just keeps on giving. So many cockwombles in one place. They may be over the top but I think I am right in saying the majority across all social media don't want him. And I quote you " he won't get my support". It is a poor choice and not one we needed when we really needed a lift and be reunited in a positive way. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 8, 2023 21:39:55 GMT
Well done Clarky for confirming my post earlier. I don't want him you are right but there are some complete tools on there who wouldn't want whoever we had appointed because their sad little obsessive minds cannot get past CM. He must have had something to do with it I'm reading but in reality, no he didn't.
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Post by garrynelson on Sept 8, 2023 21:44:00 GMT
Don’t think I’ve ever seen an appointment go down so badly with so many Charlton fans as this one has. Karel Fraye’s was pretty unanimously negative/angry |
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Post by clarky on Sept 8, 2023 21:47:59 GMT
Well done Clarky for confirming my post earlier. I don't want him you are right but there are some complete tools on there who wouldn't want whoever we had appointed because their sad little obsessive minds cannot get past CM. He must have had something to do with it I'm reading but in reality, no he didn't. Totally agree mate and that is why I stopped posting on there. However, I can't get past CM either and if he had nothing to do with this appointment, which I do believe, then it is down to Scott and Rodwell and neither of those seem to know our fanbase either. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 8, 2023 21:48:11 GMT
Don’t think I’ve ever seen an appointment go down so badly with so many Charlton fans as this one has. Karel Fraye’s was pretty unanimously negative/angry Up to the fans to do something about it then or is harrassing RD and KM's parents the only level they operate at? |
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 8, 2023 21:51:39 GMT
Well done Clarky for confirming my post earlier. I don't want him you are right but there are some complete tools on there who wouldn't want whoever we had appointed because their sad little obsessive minds cannot get past CM. He must have had something to do with it I'm reading but in reality, no he didn't. Totally agree mate and that is why I stopped posting on there. However, I can't get past CM either and if he had nothing to do with this appointment, which I do believe, then it is down to Scott and Rodwell and neither of those seem to know our fanbase. Agree with you. Not sure why a club that isn't spending any money needs a techical director. There is nothing technical about us. This is going to get messy and there will be no resistence from me when the shit hits the fan. |
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Post by clarky on Sept 8, 2023 21:56:35 GMT
Totally agree mate and that is why I stopped posting on there. However, I can't get past CM either and if he had nothing to do with this appointment, which I do believe, then it is down to Scott and Rodwell and neither of those seem to know our fanbase. Agre with you. Not sure why a club that isn't spending any money needs a techical director. There is nothing technical about us. This is going to get messy and there will be no resistence from me when the shit hits the fan. Enough is enough. Unfortunately, I think there will be many that feel the same. I got my season ticket as soon as TS was out the door, and in that respect I showed my support to the new regime but unless things change dramatically I wont be going to many games. |
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Post by newyorkaddick on Sept 8, 2023 21:56:35 GMT
Methven probably still can't believe he's managed to hoodwink a group of wealthy investors into buying the club so will be looking to buy time until they start to ask tough questions....
....in the meantime he has two 'yes men' in the shape of Scott and Rodwell who inevitably have appointed another 'yes man' in Appleton after their previous 'yes man' Holden began asking difficult questions about recruitment etc..
It is completely fanciful that they would've threatened their own cosy status quo with a genuinely progressive appointment (someone with ambition, reputation and 'leverage') because that person might very quickly have put their own roles under threat.
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Post by aucklandaddick on Sept 8, 2023 22:00:56 GMT
Well done Clarky for confirming my post earlier. I don't want him you are right but there are some complete tools on there who wouldn't want whoever we had appointed because their sad little obsessive minds cannot get past CM. He must have had something to do with it I'm reading but in reality, no he didn't. Totally agree mate and that is why I stopped posting on there. However, I can't get past CM either and if he had nothing to do with this appointment, which I do believe, then it is down to Scott and Rodwell and neither of those seem to know our fanbase either. TBF are Scott and Rodwell really going to be looking on CAFC boards and FB before making a decision on a new coach, I would very much doubt it? But it will put massive pressure on Appleton to get results right from the off otherwise it could turn a bit toxic and Scott and Rodwell both should be under the same pressure, Scott talks a great game in interviews but failed massively in not bringing in a leader CB when it was glaringly obvious to all of us that we needed this rather than bringing in a kid with potential Surely the buck has got to stop with the decision makers at some stage But we really now need to give Appleton a chance to show what he can do, hopefully he will be given a bit of breathing space from the fan base to do this |
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Post by cedric on Sept 8, 2023 22:02:42 GMT
Jesus H Corbett- what is going on on planet Charlton Athletic at the moment??
I’m not exactly pulsating with orgasmic fervour at the appointment of Appleton but there have been far worse managers appointed by this club in recent times- in some OTT quarters it’s like people are demanding he is fired before he has had so much as farted in the dugout.
So what do we have here? Judgement of players unseen who haven’t had a chance yet, a manager judged before one game.
If he proves to be a dud fair enough but does he not get at least a chance to prove us wrong? The hire/fire culture we have had since 2010 has done so much harm to this club- it’s genuinely sad.
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Post by clarky on Sept 8, 2023 22:06:12 GMT
Methven probably still can't believe he's managed to hoodwink a group of wealthy investors into buying the club so will be looking to buy time until they start to ask tough questions.... ....in the meantime he has two 'yes men' in the shape of Scott and Rodwell who inevitably have appointed another 'yes man' in Appleton after their previous 'yes man' Holden began asking difficult questions about recruitment etc.. It is completely fanciful that they would've threatened their own cosy status quo with a genuinely progressive appointment (someone with ambition, reputation and 'leverage') because that person might very quickly have put their own roles under threat. but in relative terms the wealthy didn't invest that much, and I suspect the 3 million or so they put in each has already been recouped in interest on their investments from elsewhere. They aren't saying too much for a reason, and any success is a bonus but what they won't do is invest anymore in failure. |
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Post by norfolkrobin on Sept 8, 2023 22:06:12 GMT
Totally agree mate and that is why I stopped posting on there. However, I can't get past CM either and if he had nothing to do with this appointment, which I do believe, then it is down to Scott and Rodwell and neither of those seem to know our fanbase either. TBF are Scott and Rodwell really going to be looking on CAFC boards and FB before making a decision on a new coach, I would very much doubt it? But it will put massive pressure on Appleton to get results right from the off otherwise it could turn a bit toxic and Scott and Rodwell both should be under the same pressure, Scott talks a great game in interviews but failed massively in not bringing in a leader CB when it was glaringly obvious to all of us that we needed this rather than bringing in a kid with potential Surely the buck has got to stop with the decision makers at some stage But we really need to give Appleton a chance to show what he can do, hopefully we will be given a bit of breathing space from the fan base to do this Bang on with what you said about AS,I'm watching it,wanting to believe his words about trying to create an elite environment ect. Walking the walk is the hard bit,I'm not having Appleton was at the end of an extensive search though,more likely chomping at the bit to get back in and has league one experience. Here's hoping it clicks and quickly! |
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Post by clarky on Sept 8, 2023 22:26:10 GMT
Totally agree mate and that is why I stopped posting on there. However, I can't get past CM either and if he had nothing to do with this appointment, which I do believe, then it is down to Scott and Rodwell and neither of those seem to know our fanbase either. TBF are Scott and Rodwell really going to be looking on CAFC boards and FB before making a decision on a new coach, I would very much doubt it? But it will put massive pressure on Appleton to get results right from the off otherwise it could turn a bit toxic and Scott and Rodwell both should be under the same pressure, Scott talks a great game in interviews but failed massively in not bringing in a leader CB when it was glaringly obvious to all of us that we needed this rather than bringing in a kid with potential Surely the buck has got to stop with the decision makers at some stage But we really now need to give Appleton a chance to show what he can do, hopefully he will be given a bit of breathing space from the fan base to do this They may or not keep up with social media themselves but you would hope they have been briefed on what the paying customers have been through and what may get them buying tickets again. But as I have previously said I will give Appleton a chance, I want him to succeed and I stand by that. |
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Post by 995632 on Sept 8, 2023 22:27:40 GMT
Methven probably still can't believe he's managed to hoodwink a group of wealthy investors into buying the club so will be looking to buy time until they start to ask tough questions.... ....in the meantime he has two 'yes men' in the shape of Scott and Rodwell who inevitably have appointed another 'yes man' in Appleton after their previous 'yes man' Holden began asking difficult questions about recruitment etc.. It is completely fanciful that they would've threatened their own cosy status quo with a genuinely progressive appointment (someone with ambition, reputation and 'leverage') because that person might very quickly have put their own roles under threat. Who do you consider a "genuinely progressive appointment" for an extremely average L1 side that has been driven into the ground by previous owners and had major/extreme infrastructure and rebuilding work to be done? |
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Post by sandgrown1 on Sept 8, 2023 22:30:22 GMT
"As a Blackpool fan, all I can say to Charlton fans is that you have my deepest sympathies. This man can no more manage a football club than a duck can drive a bus.".... from BBC website..just saying... I'll second the above as far as Blackpool goes. Nobody wanted him and he signed a 4 year contract! He wanted out after a few months and got his wish and a nice pay-off. One of the worst we've had in 40 odd years. He did better at Oxford and Lincoln and who knows, he might do well for you guys. Good luck! Can someone enlighten me as to why Curbishley was sacked? I always thought he was going to be with you guys for many more years. From a neutral POV he looked a perfect fit and you had several very good years. Just wondering tbh. |
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Post by 995632 on Sept 8, 2023 22:31:25 GMT
Jesus H Corbett- what is going on on planet Charlton Athletic at the moment?? I’m not exactly pulsating with orgasmic fervour at the appointment of Appleton but there have been far worse managers appointed by this club in recent times- in some OTT quarters it’s like people are demanding he is fired before he has had so much as farted in the dugout. So what do we have here? Judgement of players unseen who haven’t had a chance yet, a manager judged before one game. If he proves to be a dud fair enough but does he not get at least a chance to prove us wrong? The hire/fire culture we have had since 2010 has done so much harm to this club- it’s genuinely sad. I can't double like this, agree 100% “So what do we have here? Judgement of players unseen who haven’t had a chance yet, a manager judged before one game. If he proves to be a dud fair enough but does he not get at least a chance to prove us wrong? The hire/fire culture we have had since 2010 has done so much harm to this club- it’s genuinely sad.“ |
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Post by statto on Sept 9, 2023 0:48:51 GMT
Well done Clarky for confirming my post earlier. I don't want him you are right but there are some complete tools on there who wouldn't want whoever we had appointed because their sad little obsessive minds cannot get past CM. He must have had something to do with it I'm reading but in reality, no he didn't. Andy Scott said in his interview that the appointment was decided by the board... |
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Post by willett on Sept 9, 2023 2:55:03 GMT
Karel Fraye’s was pretty unanimously negative/angry Up to the fans to do something about it then or is harrassing RD and KM's parents the only level they operate at? Suspect that the only outcome will be even sparser crowds at home ganes than the one against Fleetwood. |
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Post by se7tolu7 on Sept 9, 2023 5:57:04 GMT
I will forever think that we were promoted to the dizzy heights way too quick which in turn gave our lot a huge sense of entitlement. I don’t ever think we will lose that sense of entitlement! Reading some of the comments on CL, that really rings true.
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Post by richmondse10exile on Sept 9, 2023 7:21:20 GMT
No idea what he’s going to be like so will just offer him my support.
We’re long overdue a pleasant surprise. I just hope he turns out better than the fanfare of doom from most on here and CL suggest.
It’s still my team and it’s early in the season.
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Post by Bexleyranger on Sept 9, 2023 7:31:41 GMT
Hmmm disagree.. that loan at Lincoln was the start of his meteoric rise and helped formed a part of the player he is today! I posted the fall piece of the article where BBs paragraph came from. Give it a read, it highlights some positives about Appleton. That's a bit like saying that 2014-15 was the meteoric rise of Joe Gomez, so Bob Peeters and Guy Luzon must have been great coaches. Out of context much? Gomez’s rise was due to the excellent job from Avory and the academy staff. Completely different from a loan player scenario! A big reason why the best Loan players end up at a certain clubs is down to the head coach and his vision, experience and reputation. I’m not jumping for joy over his appointment but it seems a good fit and I believe there is a chance it can work out. |
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Post by sevenoaks on Sept 9, 2023 7:42:43 GMT
He's probably the only guy that wanted the job with the given terms. Not very inspiring but I wish him well, if we want the club to succeed we should give him a chance. He deserves a medal for wanting the job. I wish him nothing but the best. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 9, 2023 7:55:05 GMT
Well done Clarky for confirming my post earlier. I don't want him you are right but there are some complete tools on there who wouldn't want whoever we had appointed because their sad little obsessive minds cannot get past CM. He must have had something to do with it I'm reading but in reality, no he didn't. Andy Scott said in his interview that the appointment was decided by the board... Scott and Rodwell carried out all of the interviews and on completion recommended Appleton to the board who gave the green light. |
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Post by Mundell on Sept 9, 2023 7:56:58 GMT
I have no idea whether this is a good appointment, but quite frankly nor does anyone else in the fan base. Only time will tell, as would have been the case with any of the choices more popular with the club’s fans.
What I do know is that Andy Scott would have had a clear idea what he was looking for and concluded, based on hard evidence, references and interviews, that Michael Appleton fits the bill. At this stage that’s could enough for me. All the rest is noise.
I’d much rather have a Head Coach who talks about systems and zones and developing players than one who’s banal rhetoric is around getting the players ‘playing for the shirt’.
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Post by Mundell on Sept 9, 2023 7:57:47 GMT
Andy Scott said in his interview that the appointment was decided by the board... Scott and Rodwell carried out all of the interviews and on completion recommended Appleton to the board who gave the green light. That sounds like a good process to me. |
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Post by MurciaAl on Sept 9, 2023 8:26:48 GMT
Could have been better but could have been worse, not too inspired myself, but like others on here, he will have my support.
He may well have joined us at the right time with Leaburn back and hopefully Fraser and Camara not too far off which will make a huge difference to the first eleven.
As long as he sorts out our very leaky defence pronto, we may well be ok, good luck Mr. Appleton!
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