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Post by coveredendwatcher on Sept 8, 2023 16:38:26 GMT
Completely uninspired with this appointment. Could have been a chance for the new owners to make a statement signing - someone we could all have got behind. I am not sure what they are playing at. Who would you have preferred? Realistically?... (Not aimed solely at you coveredendwatcher, open question to people saying uninspired/underwhelmed etc.) Darren Moore
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Post by surridgecobbler5 on Sept 8, 2023 16:38:31 GMT
MEH !!! but could have been worse Lee Johnson
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Post by valleyfaithful on Sept 8, 2023 16:55:50 GMT
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Post by melrose555 on Sept 8, 2023 16:57:33 GMT
Wonder what the odds are for him seeing the season out?😞
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Post by kings hill addick on Sept 8, 2023 17:19:35 GMT
I have to go along with this sensible view. It has to be said though SE7 haven't really done anything yet to seriously suggest we've turned a corner.Are we supposed to be greatful that they didn't sell Dobbo,CBT and ML,I'd much prefer instead of expecting applause for keeping hold of our better players,go and acquire more and show us your serious about attempting success. As others have rightly said on here,I hope MA is a great fit and successful,because in turn we will be as a club,but so far this brave new dawn looks like business as usual to me sadly. Question for you. Do you think TS would've rejected the bids for Dobson, Leaburn and CBT? If not, do't you think SE7 have already shown more intent/investment than TS? I would say yes... Keeping your best players is a sign of intent. I'd like us to get more talent in the squad but that may have to wait until Jan (or more likely next summer). Are we sure we had offers for those players? Huddersfield denied making a bid for Blackett-Taylor.
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Post by leedsaddick on Sept 8, 2023 17:19:49 GMT
My concern is his track record at Blackpool… however, to get out of League 1 do need to play champagne football, or have a playing people where people have define roles… ie be pragmatic… it follow the Lennie/Curbs model… build in quality as you grow… so that’s going to be his challenge… can he do this… Holden, who I liked and hoped would succeed did come across as a management cliche… it will be interesting to see how he comes accross
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Post by aaronaldo on Sept 8, 2023 17:20:33 GMT
Good interviews from both tbh. I do worry about the bit at the end about a team that is predominantly Charlton (academy) players that we can be proud of. I’m as happy as the next Charlton fan when we get academy products coming through. However, that’s only if they are good enough / are an upgrade to what we have. It’s a results based business and we want to do well. If you said to me would you prefer only a few academy players featuring in the regular team, but you get play offs Vs a significant contingent of academy products but we finish mid table. I’m taking the former every day of the week. We need to get promoted out of L1 and established in the championship asap. If promoting academy players is preventing/slowing that then it’s needs addressing.
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Post by aaronaldo on Sept 8, 2023 17:27:12 GMT
Question for you. Do you think TS would've rejected the bids for Dobson, Leaburn and CBT? If not, do't you think SE7 have already shown more intent/investment than TS? I would say yes... Keeping your best players is a sign of intent. I'd like us to get more talent in the squad but that may have to wait until Jan (or more likely next summer). Are we sure we had offers for those players? Huddersfield denied making a bid for Blackett-Taylor. Leaburn and Dobson I believe so yeah. Less convinced on the CBT front but that may be because I’m not a big fan of his.
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Post by revilo on Sept 8, 2023 17:27:26 GMT
Can we give him a chance first?
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 8, 2023 17:42:05 GMT
Funny he should say that. The board want to bring through youth and young players. I have had many a debate with them about it.
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Sept 8, 2023 17:57:34 GMT
Who would you have preferred? Realistically?... (Not aimed solely at you coveredendwatcher, open question to people saying uninspired/underwhelmed etc.) Bob Courtyard for me. Anything other is a piss take. Dog and Duck B have been playing some lovely stuff this season. I agree. Knocked us back sadly according to yesterday's newspaper article. Smithson I think we dodged a bullet with tbh though.
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Post by gorman on Sept 8, 2023 18:10:31 GMT
Can we give him a chance first? Absolutely. Let’s hope he can pick his own team without influence and pressure to play the younger players. It’s clear they ate not ready yet as per our desperately poor start.
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Post by norfolkrobin on Sept 8, 2023 18:23:42 GMT
I have to go along with this sensible view. It has to be said though SE7 haven't really done anything yet to seriously suggest we've turned a corner.Are we supposed to be greatful that they didn't sell Dobbo,CBT and ML,I'd much prefer instead of expecting applause for keeping hold of our better players,go and acquire more and show us your serious about attempting success. As others have rightly said on here,I hope MA is a great fit and successful,because in turn we will be as a club,but so far this brave new dawn looks like business as usual to me sadly. Question for you. Do you think TS would've rejected the bids for Dobson, Leaburn and CBT? If not, do't you think SE7 have already shown more intent/investment than TS? I would say yes... Keeping your best players is a sign of intent. I'd like us to get more talent in the squad but that may have to wait until Jan (or more likely next summer). That's a valid point I agree TS would've more than likely sold if a figure was hit that he liked the look of. Perhaps I expected too much too early,I've(for some reason,probably wishful thinking) envisaged SE7 doing an Ipswich and throwing some serious money at it. I like us will have to be patient and watch the plan take shape I guess.
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Post by se7sm on Sept 8, 2023 18:45:09 GMT
I will give him a chance but a very disappointing but extremely predictable appointment. I dont think a lot of this, only i am not as fed up as I would have been, had it of been the Cowleys. Who do you realistically think we could have got?. I doubt very much, anyone in work, would have been tempted onto the merry-go-round. My feeling, after the pandemic, is that if someone was happy in their work and location, they would be less likely to be tempted away.. most people go to work for money, if you stop paying them see how many turn up the next day .offer enough and don’t care what division your in or country and you will get who you want.so obviously we are not in that league that some thought at the start of the season regarding these owners
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Post by addickteduk on Sept 8, 2023 18:50:52 GMT
Who did people honestly think we could attract? We were never in for Moore, Wilder, Thomas etc - even if we were, they wouldn't come. We are not as attractive as the delusional / romantic / senile / brainwashed among us think. It is what it is. We are a mid-low level L1 team...at best, currently. Hopefully he can work some magic, and maybe we get to add some frees / add to the squaad in Jan without losing our (very few) stars, but nobody is expecting that... The SMT seem to enjoy ignoring every opportunity to demonstrate ambition, strategy and capability - prove us wrong
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Post by pardew123 on Sept 8, 2023 18:54:29 GMT
Parker, Wilder,Jones are not working in league 1 and we couldn’t afford them even if they would it was always pie in the sky thinking bit like a woman you know is out your league 😂 you could ask which we probably didn’t even do.
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Post by clarky on Sept 8, 2023 18:59:46 GMT
I will give him a chance but a very disappointing but extremely predictable appointment. I dont think a lot of this, only i am not as fed up as I would have been, had it of been the Cowleys. Who do you realistically think we could have got?. I doubt very much, anyone in work, would have been tempted onto the merry-go-round. My feeling, after the pandemic, is that if someone was happy in their work and location, they would be less likely to be tempted away.. If we truly have got money to spend then something better than a L1 has been would be my choice. The problem is anyone with recent credibility would not touch us with a barge pole. Let's see who we get in January after the this middle of the road (cheap) option doesn't cut it.
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Post by fourhorsemen on Sept 8, 2023 19:13:24 GMT
Good luck Michael (get a good start to calm our nerves. Get some team selection stability and stop leaking soft goals! Easy).
Transfermarket suggests he has previously favoured an attacking 433.
When manager at Portsmouth he had Jason Pearce and our newly appointed GK coach Stephen Henderson (should of worked out that link!). Addtionally, he had Charlie Kirk at Blackpool (oops!).
Apologies if has already been said.
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Post by petetongthereturn on Sept 8, 2023 19:14:01 GMT
‘We’ve improved the squad from last season and now the manager’
Really ?? I give you Alfie May and that sounds that Sandgaard signed him, but the others mediocre league 1 players?
The manager improved slightly better than Dean Holden.
There was we thinking that they were going to bring in better when they took over. Then they bring in Appleton which suggests to me that there is no serious money.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2023 19:41:02 GMT
I dont think a lot of this, only i am not as fed up as I would have been, had it of been the Cowleys. Who do you realistically think we could have got?. I doubt very much, anyone in work, would have been tempted onto the merry-go-round. My feeling, after the pandemic, is that if someone was happy in their work and location, they would be less likely to be tempted away.. most people go to work for money, if you stop paying them see how many turn up the next day .offer enough and don’t care what division your in or country and you will get who you want.so obviously we are not in that league that some thought at the start of the season regarding these owners The transfer window told us of the new owners intentions/wealth. Why all of a sudden people expected them to splash the cash in a managerial appointment is beyond me.
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Post by smudge7946 on Sept 8, 2023 19:51:26 GMT
‘We’ve improved the squad from last season and now the manager’ Really ?? I give you Alfie May and that sounds that Sandgaard signed him, but the others mediocre league 1 players? The manager improved slightly better than Dean Holden. There was we thinking that they were going to bring in better when they took over. Then they bring in Appleton which suggests to me that there is no userious money. Surely the one lesson we have learnt from football interviews this week is that they are nothing but noise.
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Post by sevenoaks on Sept 8, 2023 20:05:22 GMT
I’m asking for trouble, but here goes! What is it that fans have against Appleton? I’ll admit I’m not a student of the game and don’t over analyse things too much and therefore I know nothing of his past career or success/failure rate other than what’s available on line. So is it his style of play, his personality, man management skills or that he doesn’t shave very often? I’m genuinely interested and it’s not a dig at anyone as we are, after all, fans of the same club and all want it to succeed. I think most don't know, what they don't like, just like a bloody good moan..
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Post by newyorkaddick on Sept 8, 2023 20:13:24 GMT
Hearing his first interview is like a breath of fresh air after what came before....a Manchester-born journeyman player and coach in his mid-40s who wants teams to play on the front foot within a 'no excuses' culture.
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Post by willett on Sept 8, 2023 20:14:28 GMT
Don’t think I’ve ever seen an appointment go down so badly with so many Charlton fans as this one has.
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Post by yorkshireaddick on Sept 8, 2023 20:19:54 GMT
I’m asking for trouble, but here goes! What is it that fans have against Appleton? I’ll admit I’m not a student of the game and don’t over analyse things too much and therefore I know nothing of his past career or success/failure rate other than what’s available on line. So is it his style of play, his personality, man management skills or that he doesn’t shave very often? I’m genuinely interested and it’s not a dig at anyone as we are, after all, fans of the same club and all want it to succeed. I think most don't know, what they don't like, just like a bloody good moan.. Have a look at his win % as a manager and that will tell you why people are not impressed. Nothing to do with "Liking a bloody good moan" What do you "like" about this appointment?
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Post by clarky on Sept 8, 2023 20:23:02 GMT
most people go to work for money, if you stop paying them see how many turn up the next day .offer enough and don’t care what division your in or country and you will get who you want.so obviously we are not in that league that some thought at the start of the season regarding these owners The transfer window told us of the new owners intentions/wealth. Why all of a sudden people expected them to splash the cash in a managerial appointment is beyond me. I keep saying give them a chance but there is absolutely nothing I can see where this may work out well. We may have better freebies and loan signings but only time will tell if they can get us in the top 6. Presently we look like a mid table team with a mid table manager with a multitude of owners who haven't done a jot to inspire or gain the trust of the only people who matter. As I always say happy and hope to be proved wrong but currently, try as I might, I haven't even got the Sandgaard bounce at least when he talked bollocks most of us could see it, where these hide behind a useless gobshite.
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Post by sittingbourne11 on Sept 8, 2023 20:24:11 GMT
It will be interesting to see if Charlie Kirk now gets a game, didn’t Appleton sign him on loan at Blackpool.
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Post by franksav63 on Sept 8, 2023 20:35:38 GMT
It will be interesting to see if Charlie Kirk now gets a game, didn’t Appleton sign him on loan at Blackpool. I think Kirk was a Critchley pick (could be wrong) but Appleton is a very uninspiring managerial choice, I just hope that: - 1) He gets his choice of staff, no more of these in-house appointments that have been foisted on the last several managers. 2) That Scott gives him some breathing space without meddling (too much) Anyway, as ever, we’ll see as alot of work needs to be carried out in training, and please take Hayes off set-plays!
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Post by clarky on Sept 8, 2023 20:35:59 GMT
It will be interesting to see if Charlie Kirk now gets a game, didn’t Appleton sign him on loan at Blackpool. He gets a game now but you notice his pink boots rather than him. No coach can instil pace where it doesn't exist. Appleton may give a chance but he will do so because we can't get rid of him.
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Post by thesunisred on Sept 8, 2023 20:56:05 GMT
If you think Appleton has gone down badly on here, try popping over to CL where it appears we have appointed the antichrist. He wasn't my ideal choice by some margin, but he is our manager now and we should give him our full support.
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