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Post by paperboy on Sept 8, 2023 13:05:40 GMT
Very, very disappointed with this appointment.
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Post by clarky on Sept 8, 2023 13:11:52 GMT
That's a bit like saying that 2014-15 was the meteoric rise of Joe Gomez, so Bob Peeters and Guy Luzon must have been great coaches. Take no notice. For every success there’s a mountain of failure. The players need a natural talent to begin with but no coach can coach talent into the untalented. Exactly, let's see how he gets on with Roddy!
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Post by manikin on Sept 8, 2023 13:15:03 GMT
If we aren't there or there abouts by Christmas and playing well, he's in trouble.
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Post by seriouslyred on Sept 8, 2023 13:24:11 GMT
I'd have appointed him (if at all) to the end of the season only, because we want to see how he gets on. The goals this season now appear to be simply: - Staying up - Improving the young players so they'll be better players next season. Improving them so they don't make individual mistakes, but the team also needs to get the system they are playing and know how to track back so we stop leaking goals on the break, which seems to be a major problem this season. When you think about it, Appleton has been appointed until the end of the season. - not just staying up but improving upon last season - Improving all players, the team and set pieces approach so that we're in a better place next season - Run with Scott though the system, tactics, and January window where they can improve the squad - work with the new Performance Director to improve fitness If it works AND the SMT feel he's the man for next season then he will stay on. To make the play-offs we need to secure W2 D1 L1 every four games from now on in, starting with Stevenage away.
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Post by madz on Sept 8, 2023 13:29:56 GMT
Not overwhelmed by the appointment, but not thinking "OH MY GOD WHY???!!!" Lets see what he can do. 2 year contract I think is long enough to show players that he's here for a while if all goes well, but its also short enough that if it goes wrong it won't cost as much to get rid after a season.
I really would love to put a stop to this chopping and changing managers so for me i'd love him to be successful and be here for at least his contract. Good luck Michael, get that defence sorted and I actually think we may have a chance of doing something this year. If you don't we are screwed whoever is in charge.
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Post by grumpyoldsod on Sept 8, 2023 13:30:27 GMT
Had it all but confirmed to me earlier and my response was not a happy one. I'm told his success at Lincoln and Oxford were valid reasons why he will be iffered the job but I said you are only as good as your last post and Appleton was sacked after a 10 game winless streak last January. I can't watch an Appleton side and I doubt I will. Q. Why was he appointed Blackpool manager? A. Because they were shit. They appointed him and expected him to turn a crap side into world beaters. Blackpool are much like Watford. Appleton took Oxford for L2 to L1 and left to go to Leicester as Ass Mgr. Oxford then appointed Robinson, the scouce gobshite. Who managed fk all there too.
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Post by grumpyoldsod on Sept 8, 2023 13:34:22 GMT
Clean slate, good luck Michael. His analogy should have been, run the Blackpool Managers roundabout. They’ve had 7 managers in 3 years.
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Post by grumpyoldsod on Sept 8, 2023 13:37:14 GMT
Very, very disappointed with this appointment. Sorry, Pep, Arteta and Klopp weren’t available. Appleton knows this league.
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Post by vaangard on Sept 8, 2023 14:00:29 GMT
Doubt Appleton is an upgrade on Pearce, let alone Holden.
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 8, 2023 14:13:55 GMT
Doubt Appleton is an upgrade on Pearce, let alone Holden. Silly comment. He's not my cup of tea by any means but let's keep it sensible.
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Post by aaronaldo on Sept 8, 2023 14:15:47 GMT
Bowyer didn't apply as he's busy... Gallen too! (Not sure what Gallens does in this scenario)
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 8, 2023 14:15:55 GMT
Had it all but confirmed to me earlier and my response was not a happy one. I'm told his success at Lincoln and Oxford were valid reasons why he will be iffered the job but I said you are only as good as your last post and Appleton was sacked after a 10 game winless streak last January. I can't watch an Appleton side and I doubt I will. Q. Why was he appointed Blackpool manager? A. Because they were shit. They appointed him and expected him to turn a crap side into world beaters. Blackpool are much like Watford. Appleton took Oxford for L2 to L1 and left to go to Leicester as Ass Mgr. Oxford then appointed Robinson, the scouce gobshite. Who managed fk all there too. Appleton has almost taken the same path to Charlton as my old man. Both were assistant manager at Leicester!
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Post by aaronaldo on Sept 8, 2023 14:19:40 GMT
Have to say. The more I do research into Appleton and what he's done (with the constraints of the teams/budgets). I'm more optimistic.
I'm keen to see what formation he chooses for us. I really don't know what formation suits our best players atm. I feel we've got a bit of a dilemma there.
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Post by valleyfaithful on Sept 8, 2023 14:25:38 GMT
Have to say. The more I do research into Appleton and what he's done (with the constraints of the teams/budgets). I'm more optimistic. I'm keen to see what formation he chooses for us. I really don't know what formation suits our best players atm. I feel we've got a bit of a dilemma there. Given our CBs are awful I'd say 442, at things are I think I'd have Watson starting RB (as good as Asimwee is attacking, he's caught out loads of times which stretches the back line), Ness, Hector, Edun. Any of those CBs can be swapped though as none have cemented their place.
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Post by norfolkrobin on Sept 8, 2023 14:31:23 GMT
Wasn’t my first choice, but now he’s on board, let’s get behind him and the team I have to go along with this sensible view. It has to be said though SE7 haven't really done anything yet to seriously suggest we've turned a corner.Are we supposed to be greatful that they didn't sell Dobbo,CBT and ML,I'd much prefer instead of expecting applause for keeping hold of our better players,go and acquire more and show us your serious about attempting success. As others have rightly said on here,I hope MA is a great fit and successful,because in turn we will be as a club,but so far this brave new dawn looks like business as usual to me sadly.
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Post by manikin on Sept 8, 2023 14:36:33 GMT
Q. Why was he appointed Blackpool manager? A. Because they were shit. They appointed him and expected him to turn a crap side into world beaters. Blackpool are much like Watford. Appleton took Oxford for L2 to L1 and left to go to Leicester as Ass Mgr. Oxford then appointed Robinson, the scouce gobshite. Who managed fk all there too. Appleton has almost taken the same path to Charlton as my old man. Both were assistant manager at Leicester! Let's hope he does as well.
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Post by aaronaldo on Sept 8, 2023 14:42:09 GMT
Have to say. The more I do research into Appleton and what he's done (with the constraints of the teams/budgets). I'm more optimistic. I'm keen to see what formation he chooses for us. I really don't know what formation suits our best players atm. I feel we've got a bit of a dilemma there. Given our CBs are awful I'd say 442, at things are I think I'd have Watson starting RB (as good as Asimwee is attacking, he's caught out loads of times which stretches the back line), Ness, Hector, Edun. Any of those CBs can be swapped though as none have cemented their place. Yeah the issue for me is more the fact we are stacked in CM and usually play 3 there. We have May who isn't that affective on his own up front (as we seem to love a long ball to our strikers which is not his game). I think he could play there in a 4-3-3, but we wouldn't be able to pump the ball up to him. We'd have to play it out on the ground. If you don't want to play 4-3-3, then do you get 3 in the middle and 2 up front but also look to include CBT, who is are main attacking 'threat' (use that term lightly). Plus also ensure the defence is settled (i.e. has actual fullbacks playing FB and not CBT, Campbell etc). As I said. I'm interested to see what Appleton does. There are lot's of combinations we can play. Each one will have disadvantages to certain players. We may not be able to play our 'best 11' players.
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Post by aaronaldo on Sept 8, 2023 14:44:48 GMT
Wasn’t my first choice, but now he’s on board, let’s get behind him and the team I have to go along with this sensible view. It has to be said though SE7 haven't really done anything yet to seriously suggest we've turned a corner.Are we supposed to be greatful that they didn't sell Dobbo,CBT and ML,I'd much prefer instead of expecting applause for keeping hold of our better players,go and acquire more and show us your serious about attempting success. As others have rightly said on here,I hope MA is a great fit and successful,because in turn we will be as a club,but so far this brave new dawn looks like business as usual to me sadly. Question for you. Do you think TS would've rejected the bids for Dobson, Leaburn and CBT? If not, do't you think SE7 have already shown more intent/investment than TS? I would say yes... Keeping your best players is a sign of intent. I'd like us to get more talent in the squad but that may have to wait until Jan (or more likely next summer).
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Post by sevenoaks on Sept 8, 2023 14:56:09 GMT
I will give him a chance but a very disappointing but extremely predictable appointment. I dont think a lot of this, only i am not as fed up as I would have been, had it of been the Cowleys. Who do you realistically think we could have got?. I doubt very much, anyone in work, would have been tempted onto the merry-go-round. My feeling, after the pandemic, is that if someone was happy in their work and location, they would be less likely to be tempted away..
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Post by wiggyatthebackpost on Sept 8, 2023 14:58:29 GMT
I will give the guy a chance let's remember we are a League One side.Not a chance of getting the likes of Nathan Jones etc.
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Post by barnstoneworth on Sept 8, 2023 15:12:35 GMT
Very uninspiring.
I hope he does well but I think he’ll be gone before my Xmas decorations are put away.
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Post by grumpyoldsod on Sept 8, 2023 15:27:25 GMT
Appleton has never been a manager that has seen an immediate upturn in results. 2 wins in his first 12 with Oxford, 3 wins in his first 12 with Lincoln, and 3 wins in his first 12 with Blackpool. So patience is required. The January window will be when he can bring his own players in… if there’s money available.
He certainly won’t get bullied on the touch line, he’s bloody solid.
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Post by 1978sussex on Sept 8, 2023 15:32:30 GMT
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Post by manikin on Sept 8, 2023 15:44:59 GMT
Good interview said the right things, just got to deliver.
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Post by peterhuntsbeard on Sept 8, 2023 15:49:44 GMT
Not an inspiring choice, but I doubt that he’ll last the 2 years of his contract.
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Post by coveredendwatcher on Sept 8, 2023 15:51:18 GMT
Completely uninspired with this appointment. Could have been a chance for the new owners to make a statement signing - someone we could all have got behind. I am not sure what they are playing at.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2023 16:00:29 GMT
I will give him a chance but a very disappointing but extremely predictable appointment. I dont think a lot of this, only i am not as fed up as I would have been, had it of been the Cowleys. Who do you realistically think we could have got?. I doubt very much, anyone in work, would have been tempted onto the merry-go-round. My feeling, after the pandemic, is that if someone was happy in their work and location, they would be less likely to be tempted away.. I think this is a really good point. We have to be realistic, and we know from Richard Cawley that any manager out of work would have had to apply for the role and anybody already in employment would have been approached by the club. Once we were turned away by Darren Ferguson and Challinor, it's likely that the club focused on the applicants. Realistically, who can we expect to apply for the role. Many would have loved the likes of Wilder, N Jones etc (some even thought we'd get Graham Potter 😂), but in all honesty, these guys can easily get a job in the Championship or higher when they become available. It's a weird one with Appleton. He's certainly preferable to Cowley, and they were probably the only two in the running (I'm presuming Darren Moore didn't apply), but his record at Blackpool certainly leaves you uncertain. On the other hand, he had a terrible squad then. I remember wanting Appleton to take over at Charlton desperately when he was at Lincoln (I can't remember who we appointed at the time, maybe Adkins), and at that point his overall win ratio was probably a lot higher as the "Blackpool affect" hadn't happened. Anyway, I'll give him the chance he deserves, he's the probably the best of a bad bunch!
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Post by huddy1978 on Sept 8, 2023 16:00:35 GMT
Very good Interview, living in hope as always!.
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Post by 995632 on Sept 8, 2023 16:28:18 GMT
Completely uninspired with this appointment. Could have been a chance for the new owners to make a statement signing - someone we could all have got behind. I am not sure what they are playing at. Who would you have preferred? Realistically?... (Not aimed solely at you coveredendwatcher, open question to people saying uninspired/underwhelmed etc.)
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Post by yorkshireaddick on Sept 8, 2023 16:37:27 GMT
Completely uninspired with this appointment. Could have been a chance for the new owners to make a statement signing - someone we could all have got behind. I am not sure what they are playing at. Who would you have preferred? Realistically?... (Not aimed solely at you coveredendwatcher, open question to people saying uninspired/underwhelmed etc.) Bob Courtyard for me. Anything other is a piss take. Dog and Duck B have been playing some lovely stuff this season.
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