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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 29, 2023 13:37:13 GMT
I have this morning taken a planned called from a fellow Charlton fan and businessman.
He knows I run this forum and wants what he told me 'Put Out There'!
The delay to the sale of the club is Thomas Sandgaard and such is his desperation to retain a percentage in the club, he has reneged on the 18% share that he was offered and accepted by the three American Billionaires.
The trio own and run a club a franchise in the MLS, they have serious money. Methven and Rodwell are representing them and nobody else. TS wants it increased to 20% minimum, the Yanks already extremely annoyed by an issue with Chuks Aneke, have warned Sandgaard that he has until the end of this month to take what was agreed or the deal is off.
I have ben asked to encourage all Charlton fans to put pressure on Sandgaard to sell. The word of this needs to be out there.
Sandgaard had to pay £17m of the ESI deal that he took over to Roland by 27th but he has failed. The Americans had stepped in and offered the whole amount of £53m upfront as a guarantee and as a proof of funds but won't do so until TS accepts the 18% and nothing more.
The deal was signed on 8th December but had to be completed by 31st. The reason is TS being greedy and attempting move the goal posts. He is the sole reason we are where we are.
Players have been lined up for cash but we have had to drop out of deals because the Americans do not want to part with money until TS signs his part of the deal. Everything is with the EFL. The test has been passed, proof of funds have been accepted but Sandgaard is delaying the final hurdle.
Martin Sandgaard has the biggest office at Sparrows Lane even bigger than Holden's.
There is more but I am about to leave for the Wrexham - Sheffield Utd game so I will try and type again later.
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Post by revilo on Jan 29, 2023 13:52:34 GMT
Ok let's ramp up the pressure on the prick
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Post by norfolkrobin on Jan 29, 2023 14:10:35 GMT
TS's arrogance knows no bounds,I obviously have no knowledge of the situation,but IF this was the case it wouldn't surprise me.
Losing money hand over fist apparently,yet potentially jeopardising a deal that would quite unbelievably keep him partially in the picture.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2023 14:16:16 GMT
For what it’s worth, the stuff about Aneke’s contract is true. Mundell can confirm that I told him about this in a DM twelve months ago. The club have agreed to T&Cs with Anneke that no serious club would ever, ever accept. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2023 14:17:38 GMT
I have this morning taken a planned called from a fellow Charlton fan and businessman. He knows I run this forum and wants what he told me 'Put Out There'! The delay to the sale of the club is Thomas Sandgaard and such is his desperation to retain a percentage in the club, he has reneged on the 18% share that he was offered and accepted by the three American Billionaires. The trio own and run a club a franchise in the MLS, they have serious money. Methven and Rodwell are representing them and nobody else. TS wants it creased to 20% minimum, the Yanks already extremely annoyed by an issue of Chuks Aneke, have warned Sandgaard that he has until the end of this month to take what was agreed or teh deal is off. I have ben asked to encourage all Charlton fans to put pressure on Sandgaard to sell. The word of this needs to be out there. Sandgaard had to pay £17m of the ESI deal that he took over to Roland by 27th but he has failed. The Americans had stepped in and offered the whole amount of £53m upfront as a guarantee and as a proof of funds but won't do so until TS accepts the 18% and nothing more. The deal was signed on 8th December but had to be completed by 31st. The reason is TS being greedy and attempting move the goal posts. He is the sole reason we are where we are. Players have been lined up for cash but we have had to drop out of deals because the Americans do not want to part with money until TS signs his part of the deal. Everything is with the EFL. The test has been passed, proof of funds have been accepted but Sandgaard is delaying the final hurdle. Martin Sandgaard has the biggest office at Sparrows Lane even bigger than Holden's. There is more but I am about to leave for the Wrexham - Sheffield Utd game so I will try and type again later. Reams story now all over Twitter. Well done Paul. Ignore the wallys on the other forum who’s noses are out of joint again because you broke it first. We all support the same club, and Sandgaard needs moving. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2023 14:54:18 GMT
I'm reading this revelation 'cold' as I have only been back for about a fortnight, and while I was away I did not visit to read anything on this forum. That perhaps gives me a different perspective on it. I've lost faith in Thomas Sandgaard because he has not been honest with Charlton fans, and his stewardship of the Club has been as poor (in its own ways) as the stewardship of the various incarnations of ESI and Duchatelet before them. But really - take a step back everyone and look at what you're being asked to believe. - That three American Billionaires are ready to come in and fix everything that is wrong with CAFC at a stroke.
- That these Billionaires will just pay Duchatelet all the money he wants, no questions asked.
- And that (by implication) these new owners will deliver a new Golden Age for the Club. Unlimited funding, the ability to buy any amount of success.
- In short, everything that weary Charlton Athletic fans could want in this modern era where money is everything.
And the one person standing in the way of all this paradise - the one person who will destroy it all for want of an extra 2% - is Thomas Sandgaard.
We're being manipulated.
I'm not saying there is no truth in this story. But look at it.
The scenario is too melodramatic, too black-and-white, too polarised to be real.
But when it comes on the heels of month after month of negative stories about Sandgaard on social media and on this forum, it probably feels like the most natural next step in the world.
Somebody is creating a post-truth alternative reality in the manner of Donald Trump, and is seeking to whip up thousands of people into behaving in an extremist and irrational manner, for their own purposes.
I'm not saying it is anybody on ITTV who is doing this. The original post on this thread was likely created in good faith and is believed to be the unbiased truth.
But the scenario it presents does not ring true - unless you've been influenced by everything that has come before it over a long period of time.
I don't know what the truth is.
None of us do.
But I know when someone is trying to reshape the truth and distort reality in order to try to make me behave a certain way.
We're being promised Paradise - on one condition.
That we get rid of one person. Turn our hatred on him. Drive him out of the club. Make him go away.
Don't allow yourself to behave contrary to your basic nature because you're been programmed to.
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It's a Sunday afternoon, two days before the transfer window closes.
The very definition of silly season on forums.Believe wgat you wish lardi. Makes no odds to me either way. |
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Post by samburgess93 on Jan 29, 2023 14:57:03 GMT
I have this morning taken a planned called from a fellow Charlton fan and businessman. He knows I run this forum and wants what he told me 'Put Out There'! The delay to the sale of the club is Thomas Sandgaard and such is his desperation to retain a percentage in the club, he has reneged on the 18% share that he was offered and accepted by the three American Billionaires. The trio own and run a club a franchise in the MLS, they have serious money. Methven and Rodwell are representing them and nobody else. TS wants it creased to 20% minimum, the Yanks already extremely annoyed by an issue of Chuks Aneke, have warned Sandgaard that he has until the end of this month to take what was agreed or teh deal is off. I have ben asked to encourage all Charlton fans to put pressure on Sandgaard to sell. The word of this needs to be out there. Sandgaard had to pay £17m of the ESI deal that he took over to Roland by 27th but he has failed. The Americans had stepped in and offered the whole amount of £53m upfront as a guarantee and as a proof of funds but won't do so until TS accepts the 18% and nothing more. The deal was signed on 8th December but had to be completed by 31st. The reason is TS being greedy and attempting move the goal posts. He is the sole reason we are where we are. Players have been lined up for cash but we have had to drop out of deals because the Americans do not want to part with money until TS signs his part of the deal. Everything is with the EFL. The test has been passed, proof of funds have been accepted but Sandgaard is delaying the final hurdle. Martin Sandgaard has the biggest office at Sparrows Lane even bigger than Holden's. There is more but I am about to leave for the Wrexham - Sheffield Utd game so I will try and type again later. Hi Reams, Thanks for sharing. Few things in the post that few of us are struggling to get heads round.. firstly the mention of owing £17m to Roland? What is this for? The rent on TV/SL is no where near this and the deal to buy Charlton was with ESI not Roland. Next being the Aneke heart issue… he has visibly injured hamstrings in games this season and the weather has been cold so why would it cause an issue with a warm weather heart issue? These two parts make it difficult to hold weight |
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Post by ardrohanlil on Jan 29, 2023 15:11:28 GMT
I have this morning taken a planned called from a fellow Charlton fan and businessman. He knows I run this forum and wants what he told me 'Put Out There'! The delay to the sale of the club is Thomas Sandgaard and such is his desperation to retain a percentage in the club, he has reneged on the 18% share that he was offered and accepted by the three American Billionaires. The trio own and run a club a franchise in the MLS, they have serious money. Methven and Rodwell are representing them and nobody else. TS wants it creased to 20% minimum, the Yanks already extremely annoyed by an issue of Chuks Aneke, have warned Sandgaard that he has until the end of this month to take what was agreed or teh deal is off. I have ben asked to encourage all Charlton fans to put pressure on Sandgaard to sell. The word of this needs to be out there. Sandgaard had to pay £17m of the ESI deal that he took over to Roland by 27th but he has failed. The Americans had stepped in and offered the whole amount of £53m upfront as a guarantee and as a proof of funds but won't do so until TS accepts the 18% and nothing more. The deal was signed on 8th December but had to be completed by 31st. The reason is TS being greedy and attempting move the goal posts. He is the sole reason we are where we are. Players have been lined up for cash but we have had to drop out of deals because the Americans do not want to part with money until TS signs his part of the deal. Everything is with the EFL. The test has been passed, proof of funds have been accepted but Sandgaard is delaying the final hurdle. Martin Sandgaard has the biggest office at Sparrows Lane even bigger than Holden's. There is more but I am about to leave for the Wrexham - Sheffield Utd game so I will try and type again later. Don't believe this. Sorry |
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Post by ExeterAddick on Jan 29, 2023 15:23:15 GMT
I am far from "in the know", but the one rumour I have been hearing for the last few months from the few people I know who are close to the club, is that Sandgaard is only interested in investors who let him retain a sizeable stake. This latest news seems to back that up.
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Post by 19addickted96 on Jan 29, 2023 15:26:31 GMT
As posted on the other thread - regarding it being Methvens typical schtick
He did similar (talking to multiple fans, ‘leaking’ info to fit his narrative etc) at Sunderland.
Think he’s somewhat known for spreading a false narrative to make him/his parties look more positive- especially considering it’s highly unlikely 3 billionaires are looking at Charlton and haggling over 2%. Add to the fact none of the people seen around Charlton/methven are known associates of billionaires nor MLS figures. What billionaire sports investors would want a group of social media users to apply pressure to a want away owner if they have the £££ to wait.
Equally, what billionaires would want to get involved in a Texas investment brochure being whored about
I wouldn’t believe anything linked to billionaires until a deal is done and said billionaires are introduced.
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Post by bigandy99 on Jan 29, 2023 17:19:33 GMT
If there are unlimited funds, the 2% is the proverbial “piss in the wind”… so shouldn’t be an issue..
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Post by kings hill addick on Jan 29, 2023 18:14:23 GMT
If there are unlimited funds, the 2% is the proverbial “piss in the wind”… so shouldn’t be an issue.. From what Reams says it’s not the money it’s 2% of the the club. That’s very different. |
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Post by Mundell on Jan 29, 2023 18:29:42 GMT
If there are unlimited funds, the 2% is the proverbial “piss in the wind”… so shouldn’t be an issue.. From what Reams says it’s not the money it’s 2% of the the club. That’s very different. …. and it becomes a matter of principle. If, as alleged, Sandgaard has not been transparent during the due diligence process and is now being a “clever dick” and trying to nickel and dime on the deal that has been agreed, then it’s possible the buyers will draw a line in the sand. The money becomes irrelevant. Unfortunately, given how Sandgaard has behaved since he bought the club it wouldn’t be at all surprising if we have reached this kind of impasse. |
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Post by thesunisred on Jan 29, 2023 18:33:23 GMT
I may be well wide of the mark, but it stinks of a deal about to fall through due to lack of funds/investors and Charlie boy wanting someone else to take the blame.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2023 18:34:28 GMT
We know as facts that Sandgaard granted a period of exclusivity to Methven, which is about to end, and we also know that Methven is saying that his backers are US sports franchise billionaires. Whether you believe CM is up to you, but It’s a fact that he’s said it.
I did laugh on reading Rick EverItt’s comment about Reams being fed duff information by a person with an agenda.
Remind me ….who once famously posted that Aussie Andrew Muir’s purchase of CAFC was a “done deal” ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2023 18:36:29 GMT
Nobody cares ? This is a thread about potentially seismic developments at CAFC next week. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2023 18:37:10 GMT
From what Reams says it’s not the money it’s 2% of the the club. That’s very different. …. and it becomes a matter of principle. If, as alleged, Sandgaard has not been transparent during the due diligence process and is now being a “clever dick” and trying to nickel and dime on the deal that has been agreed, then it’s possible the buyers will draw a line in the sand. The money becomes irrelevant. Unfortunately, given how Sandgaard has behaved since he bought the club it wouldn’t be at all surprising if we have reached this kind of impasse. [br But he is losing so much money and is universally despised at the club is it really something that he would turn down? It makes no sense unless Martin really wants to keep the biggest office at Sparrows Lane. Something is missing here in this story probably the truth |
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Post by wiggyatthebackpost on Jan 29, 2023 18:39:30 GMT
We know as facts that Sandgaard granted a period of exclusivity to Methven, which is about to end, and we also know that Methven is saying that his backers are US sports franchise billionaires. Whether you believe CM is up to you, but It’s a fact that he’s said it. I did laugh on reading Rick EverItt’s comment about Reams being fed duff information by a person with an agenda. Remind me ….who once famously posted that Aussie Andrew Muir’s purchase of CAFC was a “done deal” ? Why do so many people believe Rick and not others?.I mean if he's seen this leaflet doing the rounds in Texas. Asking for backers why doesn't he post it up.Why is his info better then anybody else's?. |
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Post by floydroadse7 on Jan 29, 2023 18:41:11 GMT
I may be well wide of the mark, but it stinks of a deal about to fall through due to lack of funds/investors and Charlie boy wanting someone else to take the blame. Imagine! Right at the end of the transfer window too - providing people a very easy excuse as to why nothing has happened. It's all BS and nothing is happening - it's all smoke and mirrors - despite all the ITK carrots that are dangled on here (none of which I recall ever being true!) |
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Post by Mundell on Jan 29, 2023 18:45:55 GMT
…. and it becomes a matter of principle. If, as alleged, Sandgaard has not been transparent during the due diligence process and is now being a “clever dick” and trying to nickel and dime on the deal that has been agreed, then it’s possible the buyers will draw a line in the sand. The money becomes irrelevant. Unfortunately, given how Sandgaard has behaved since he bought the club it wouldn’t be at all surprising if we have reached this kind of impasse. [br But he is losing so much money and is universally despised at the club is it really something that he would turn down? It makes no sense unless Martin really wants to keep the biggest office at Sparrows Lane. Something is missing here in this story probably the truth You’re right. It would make no sense for Sandgaard to turn down a deal anywhere close to what’s been rumoured, but that doesn’t mean he wouldn’t try to improve it late in the day. Sandgaard is a narcissist. He sees himself as super smart. A winner. A doer of good deals. If there’s any truth in this story, the buyers will hold firm. It’s Sandgaard who needs to back down, but of course then he’d lose face. What was that about pride coming before a fall? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2023 18:50:00 GMT
I may be well wide of the mark, but it stinks of a deal about to fall through due to lack of funds/investors and Charlie boy wanting someone else to take the blame. Imagine! Right at the end of the transfer window too - providing people a very easy excuse as to why nothing has happened. It's all BS and nothing is happening - it's all smoke and mirrors - despite all the ITK carrots that are dangled on here (none of which I recall ever being true!) We have had a terrible January transfer window, and it has suited both Sandgaard and Methven that it has conveniently taken place in the month of January. It has given both of them a ready made alibi for not strengthening the team this month. |
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Post by floydroadse7 on Jan 29, 2023 18:54:05 GMT
Imagine! Right at the end of the transfer window too - providing people a very easy excuse as to why nothing has happened. It's all BS and nothing is happening - it's all smoke and mirrors - despite all the ITK carrots that are dangled on here (none of which I recall ever being true!) We have had a terrible January transfer window, and it has suited both Sandgaard and Methven that it has conveniently taken place in the month of January. It has given both of them a ready made alibi for not strengthening the team this month. Absolutely what I've thought right from the off. They've had this ready made excuse in their holsters for quite a while I'd imagine. There will be no takeover I am quite sure of that (of course will eat humble pie if true). Even if there was it's too late now for this season. |
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Post by kings hill addick on Jan 29, 2023 18:54:21 GMT
…. and it becomes a matter of principle. If, as alleged, Sandgaard has not been transparent during the due diligence process and is now being a “clever dick” and trying to nickel and dime on the deal that has been agreed, then it’s possible the buyers will draw a line in the sand. The money becomes irrelevant. Unfortunately, given how Sandgaard has behaved since he bought the club it wouldn’t be at all surprising if we have reached this kind of impasse. [br But he is losing so much money and is universally despised at the club is it really something that he would turn down? It makes no sense unless Martin really wants to keep the biggest office at Sparrows Lane. Something is missing here in this story probably the truth I can, well, believe that Sandgaard is insisting that his son has some say in how these new owners (billionaires or not) spend their own money on players. It looks like the boy is completely useless and Sandgaard (Thomas) is, probably, worried about what he will do with him if the club push him out. It’s clear that he doesn’t want him in his medical company. He’s had been involved in us having a top four budget and a squad can’t can’t get into the top ten. Personally, I don’t want Sandgaard to have any involvement in the club. I don’t, even, want him allowed to come to games. The further the whole lot of them are from the club the better, as far as I’m concerned. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2023 19:01:47 GMT
So much half truths so many outright fibs, so many egos, so many agendas.
When will this club be left to proper cafc people?
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Post by floydroadse7 on Jan 29, 2023 19:06:49 GMT
So much half truths so many outright fibs, so many egos, so many agendas. When will this club be left to proper cafc people? I genuinely feel that would only ever happen if we went into administration - not that I expect that to happen. Selling a football club is easy enough - it happens all the time - as you've said it's the people, egos and the fibs that make it difficult |
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Post by revilo on Jan 29, 2023 19:15:05 GMT
I don't think Paul gives a shit about everyone's opinion on what he's shared. He's shared it in good faith. Guess we will just wait to see if it comes to fruition.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 29, 2023 20:01:55 GMT
We know as facts that Sandgaard granted a period of exclusivity to Methven, which is about to end, and we also know that Methven is saying that his backers are US sports franchise billionaires. Whether you believe CM is up to you, but It’s a fact that he’s said it. I did laugh on reading Rick EverItt’s comment about Reams being fed duff information by a person with an agenda. Remind me ….who once famously posted that Aussie Andrew Muir’s purchase of CAFC was a “done deal” ? Anything that Rick doesn't know is duff information. He is nowhere near as close to the action as where my info is coming from. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 29, 2023 20:03:32 GMT
I don't think Paul gives a shit about everyone's opinion on what he's shared. He's shared it in good faith. Guess we will just wait to see if it comes to fruition. Your right mate I don't. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 29, 2023 20:05:32 GMT
If there are unlimited funds, the 2% is the proverbial “piss in the wind”… so shouldn’t be an issue.. From what Reams says it’s not the money it’s 2% of the the club. That’s very different. Correct. |
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Post by thesunisred on Jan 29, 2023 20:10:20 GMT
I don't think Paul gives a shit about everyone's opinion on what he's shared. He's shared it in good faith. Guess we will just wait to see if it comes to fruition. And nor should he. Reams posts in good faith, and long may he continue to do so. My concern is that his source, or indeed his source's source is being fed a narrative to suit a particular party...maybe it's because we've had our fingers burnt before, but I fear the whole thing collapsing in the next few days. |
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