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Post by 19addickted96 on Jan 29, 2023 20:13:09 GMT
From what Reams says it’s not the money it’s 2% of the the club. That’s very different. Correct. What’s the difference, to 3 billionaires, between 18% and 20%… If you want a deal, then 2% is nothing surely!? Not like any profit/dividends is going to be made anytime soon to cause a problem percentage wise |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 29, 2023 20:13:56 GMT
Lots of people know my source.
If I named him their opinions on it being bollocks would change in an instant.
I won't name him because I care more for his trust in me than I do for whether people want to believe it or not.
People should be putting their energies into forcing the owner out.
Fact is if CARD do to Sandgaard what they did to Duchatelet we will have brand new heavyweight owners.
This takeover has got 48 hours of life left in it. TS is not paying RD the £17m instalment that is overdue. The Americans are ready to pay the whole £53m hit in one go for the Valley but TS needs to hand over the agreed 82% that was agreed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2023 20:15:23 GMT
I don't think Paul gives a shit about everyone's opinion on what he's shared. He's shared it in good faith. Guess we will just wait to see if it comes to fruition. It’s gone Members Only over there, so they can rinse Reams behind his back, and AFKA doesn’t have to show some backbone to stop it. Fortunately I’m a member, so can read everything. Sound As A Pound has just accused Reams of stooping to any level to boost traffic on ITTV. Sound As A Pound earlier started a new bullying thread about BB over there, which took a while to take down. We can all play this game. |
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Post by valleydobson1 on Jan 29, 2023 20:15:24 GMT
All over 2 per cent Thomas out.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 29, 2023 20:15:46 GMT
What’s the difference, to 3 billionaires, between 18% and 20%… If you want a deal, then 2% is nothing surely!? Not like any profit/dividends is going to be made anytime soon to cause a problem percentage wise You are asking the wrong person but it's the 2% that could make this whole deal go wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2023 20:16:35 GMT
Lots of people know my source. If I named him their opinions on it being bollocks would change in an instant. I won't name him because I care more for his trust in me than I do for whether people want to believe it or not. People should be putting their energies into forcing the owner out. Fact is if CARD do to Sandgaard what they did to Duchatelet we will have brand new heavyweight owners. This takeover has got 48 hours of life left in it. TS is not paying RD the £17m instalment that is overdue. The Americans are ready to pay the whole £53m hit in one go for the Valley but TS needs to hand over the agreed 82% that was agreed. Charlie Methven has seen ITTV and your post today. |
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Post by valleydobson1 on Jan 29, 2023 20:22:11 GMT
If Thomas stays then he is the only one paying the extra running costs does not make sense as he has lost interest in our club.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 29, 2023 20:22:21 GMT
I don't think Paul gives a shit about everyone's opinion on what he's shared. He's shared it in good faith. Guess we will just wait to see if it comes to fruition. It’s gone Members Only over there, so they can rinse Reams behind his back, and AFKA doesn’t have to show some backbone to stop it. Fortunately I’m a member, so can read everything. Sound As A Pound has just accused Reams of stooping to any level to boost traffic on ITTV. Sound As A Pound earlier started a new bullying thread about BB over there, which took a while to take down. We can all play this game. SoundasA£ isn't worth my breath mate. He's a loser. A complete waste of space just like the shitshow of a forum he posts on. Again....for the record, I do not make a penny from this forum. One post or 10k posts mean duddly squat to me financially. Some days I don't even look at the forum myself and I gave no interest in forum wars. It's information I have passed on because I have been asked to. Instead of attacking me for sharing it some people need to foucus on the real villain because if this takeover falls through we are fucked. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2023 20:23:51 GMT
Lots of people know my source. If I named him their opinions on it being bollocks would change in an instant. I won't name him because I care more for his trust in me than I do for whether people want to believe it or not. People should be putting their energies into forcing the owner out. Fact is if CARD do to Sandgaard what they did to Duchatelet we will have brand new heavyweight owners. This takeover has got 48 hours of life left in it. TS is not paying RD the £17m instalment that is overdue. The Americans are ready to pay the whole £53m hit in one go for the Valley but TS needs to hand over the agreed 82% that was agreed. Sorry Paul but this don’t work for me. If this mystery source has bollocks then he should be posting on this forum and others not using you as a platform. If he want to galvanise the fans in 2 days - then how does he expect to do that? He has given you information that is both factually and possibly legally misleading. Given the short time we have he can’t be serious about leaving it to the fans who are totally underwhelmed and confused by the wealth of information that is not being told to them. |
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Post by thesunisred on Jan 29, 2023 20:24:36 GMT
So,if nothing changes and the 'deal' falls through what is TS's game plan?. Nothing makes sense - He'll just be left having to fund the club, which he can't afford for much longer.
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Post by valleydobson1 on Jan 29, 2023 20:25:57 GMT
So,if nothing changes and the 'deal' falls through what is TS's game plan?. Nothing makes sense - He'll just be left having to fund the club, which he can't afford for much longer. As i see it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2023 20:26:07 GMT
AFKA has just warned Sound As A Pound to stop posting about his weird obsession with Reams and ITTV (and Wrexham)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2023 20:27:59 GMT
It’s gone Members Only over there, so they can rinse Reams behind his back, and AFKA doesn’t have to show some backbone to stop it. Fortunately I’m a member, so can read everything. Sound As A Pound has just accused Reams of stooping to any level to boost traffic on ITTV. Sound As A Pound earlier started a new bullying thread about BB over there, which took a while to take down. We can all play this game. SoundasA£ isn't worth my breath mate. He's a loser. A complete waste of space just like the shitshow of a forum he posts on. Again....for the record, I do not make a penny from this forum. One post or 10k posts mean duddly squat to me financially. Some days I don't even look at the forum myself and I gave no interest in forum wars. It's information I have passed on because I have been asked to. Instead of attacking me for sharing it some people need to foucus on the real villain because if this takeover falls through we are fucked. He’s just had a public bollockimg from AFKA. He’s obsessed with you and other posters on here. ”who lives in Wrexham” 💦 |
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Post by Mundell on Jan 29, 2023 20:31:29 GMT
What’s the difference, to 3 billionaires, between 18% and 20%… If you want a deal, then 2% is nothing surely!? Not like any profit/dividends is going to be made anytime soon to cause a problem percentage wise As I said above, there comes a point where it’s not about the money. If I had a deal to buy something I could easily afford and then at the last minute the seller, who I felt had not in any event been transparent with me, suddenly wanted more money or a bigger share of future profits, I might well draw a line in the sand. Self-made billionaires (if that’s what they are) aren’t in the habit of losing games of chicken to chancers like Thomas Sandgaard. It’s not hard to understand why a late change in deal terms might be a problem and why it’s Sandgaard who needs to back down. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 29, 2023 20:35:30 GMT
You couldn't make it up!
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Post by clarky on Jan 29, 2023 20:40:19 GMT
It’s gone Members Only over there, so they can rinse Reams behind his back, and AFKA doesn’t have to show some backbone to stop it. Fortunately I’m a member, so can read everything. Sound As A Pound has just accused Reams of stooping to any level to boost traffic on ITTV. Sound As A Pound earlier started a new bullying thread about BB over there, which took a while to take down. We can all play this game. SoundasA£ isn't worth my breath mate. He's a loser. A complete waste of space just like the shitshow of a forum he posts on. Again....for the record, I do not make a penny from this forum. One post or 10k posts mean duddly squat to me financially. Some days I don't even look at the forum myself and I gave no interest in forum wars. It's information I have passed on because I have been asked to. Instead of attacking me for sharing it some people need to foucus on the real villain because if this takeover falls through we are fucked. I thought it has been said (may not have been you though) that various parties are waiting in the wings should this deal go tits up? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2023 20:41:34 GMT
Strikes me that all this is just postering and bluff. It’s a negotiation. Not uncommon when the end of the negotiation is looming. 🍿
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Post by bigandy99 on Jan 29, 2023 20:42:12 GMT
Who will blink first?.. I don’t see what influence the fans can have with 48 hours until the end of January… if people are serious about buying and selling then get it done!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2023 20:44:43 GMT
Strikes me that all this is just postering and bluff. It’s a negotiation. Not uncommon when the end of the negotiation is looming. 🍿 The question you should be asking yourself is why is a mystery ‘Charlton businessman’leaking information this close to a deal being done? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2023 20:46:19 GMT
Lots of people know my source. If I named him their opinions on it being bollocks would change in an instant. I won't name him because I care more for his trust in me than I do for whether people want to believe it or not. People should be putting their energies into forcing the owner out. Fact is if CARD do to Sandgaard what they did to Duchatelet we will have brand new heavyweight owners. This takeover has got 48 hours of life left in it. TS is not paying RD the £17m instalment that is overdue. The Americans are ready to pay the whole £53m hit in one go for the Valley but TS needs to hand over the agreed 82% that was agreed. Sorry Paul but this don’t work for me. If this mystery source has bollocks then he should be posting on this forum and others not using you as a platform. If he want to galvanise the fans in 2 days - then how does he expect to do that? He has given you information that is both factually and possibly legally misleading. Given the short time we have he can’t be serious about leaving it to the fans who are totally underwhelmed and confused by the wealth of information that is not being told to them. You really don’t get it. FOR THE LAST TIME Paul and me and other posters can’t post who that source is. Why do you think that is? My Source is from the horses mouth. Who do you think the horse is? They don’t post on Football forums. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2023 20:46:48 GMT
Strikes me that all this is just postering and bluff. It’s a negotiation. Not uncommon when the end of the negotiation is looming. 🍿 The question you should be asking yourself is why is a mystery ‘Charlton businessman’leaking information this close to a deal being done? You don’t have to be a VOTV seller to work that one out ? To give Sandgaard a nudge to complete a deal and fuck off. In this instance, the ends justify the means. He needs to go, this week., |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2023 20:50:41 GMT
The question you should be asking yourself is why is a mystery ‘Charlton businessman’leaking information this close to a deal being done? You don’t have to be a VOTV seller to work that one out ? To give Sandgaard a nudge to complete a deal and fuck off. In this instance, the ends justify the means. He needs to go, this week., In two days? |
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Post by valleyfaithful on Jan 29, 2023 20:51:06 GMT
There's a good chance I'm cynical after five years of false dawns, and I completely believe the posters on here recently are sharing information from the horses mouth. One thing that doesn't make much sense to me is:
This 2%.
I understand it's about the equity and not the up-front amount (alluding to the fact that 2% will be worth much more once the potential billionaire owners have had a crack at it). But if they're sure of success I'm surprised they'd broker a deal at all which includes Sandaard retaining stake. Giving Sandgaard his money back plus an additional (even) five mil for his trouble should be small change to a group such as these if they're confident of swift improvement. With that considered, men of that worth generally value their time above all else, given the effort contributed so far I'd be surprised to see them walk away from it all for the sake of £1m now or £5m down the line.
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Post by cafcscp on Jan 29, 2023 20:52:51 GMT
If the billionaires are there, they’ll buy us regardless of the date.
They don’t need a transfer window to keep us up and it doesn’t matter who they buy, we aren’t going up either.
I hope I’m wrong but the information is a bit smelly.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2023 20:53:20 GMT
Sorry Paul but this don’t work for me. If this mystery source has bollocks then he should be posting on this forum and others not using you as a platform. If he want to galvanise the fans in 2 days - then how does he expect to do that? He has given you information that is both factually and possibly legally misleading. Given the short time we have he can’t be serious about leaving it to the fans who are totally underwhelmed and confused by the wealth of information that is not being told to them. You really don’t get it. FOR THE LAST TIME Paul and me and other posters can’t post who that source is. Why do you think that is? My Source is from the horses mouth. Who do you think the horse is? They don’t post on Football forums. Mr Ed? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2023 20:54:39 GMT
If the billionaires are there, they’ll buy us regardless of the date. They don’t need a transfer window to keep us up and it doesn’t matter who they buy, we aren’t going up either. I hope I’m wrong but the information is a bit smelly. A few weeks ago we were asked by someone I will call Peter not to protest and now we are being asked to protest? What’s going on ? |
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Post by Tom1982 on Jan 29, 2023 20:56:05 GMT
It’s the hope that kills ain’t it! I’m actually getting excited about CAFC again which will make it even worse if this goes south.
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Post by seriouslyred on Jan 29, 2023 20:56:35 GMT
Lots of people know my source. If I named him their opinions on it being bollocks would change in an instant. I won't name him because I care more for his trust in me than I do for whether people want to believe it or not. People should be putting their energies into forcing the owner out. Fact is if CARD do to Sandgaard what they did to Duchatelet we will have brand new heavyweight owners. This takeover has got 48 hours of life left in it. TS is not paying RD the £17m instalment that is overdue. The Americans are ready to pay the whole £53m hit in one go for the Valley but TS needs to hand over the agreed 82% that was agreed. It has been clear from the start that Sandgaard has wanted more than full value AND to maintain a seat at the top table using other people's money. If TS really is in breach with Duchatelet re paying a slice of the freehold & assets then he will hit a brick wall sooner or later. For Duchatelet might deal with him as he dealt with ESI. Plus Sandgaard is on the hook for ongoing losses of 500-750K pcm. Somehow doubt that these matters will be resolved over the next 48 hours, but these potential buyers might take the same stance that Sandgaard did three years back and call Duchatelet direct?! This season might be over, but ideally things will be resolved in time to prepare for next. As ever with CAFC there are no guarantees. But if this narrative is spot on AND Duchatelet has a viable claim to null the contract then things will get tasty before the end of the season 😀 |
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Post by kings hill addick on Jan 29, 2023 20:58:41 GMT
There's a good chance I'm cynical after five years of false dawns, and I completely believe the posters on here recently are sharing information from the horses mouth. One thing that doesn't make much sense to me is: This 2%. I understand it's about the equity and not the up-front amount (alluding to the fact that 2% will be worth much more once the potential billionaire owners have had a crack at it). But if they're sure of success I'm surprised they'd broker a deal at all which includes Sandaard retaining stake. Giving Sandgaard his money back plus an additional (even) five mil for his trouble should be small change to a group such as these if they're confident of swift improvement. With that considered, men of that worth generally value their time above all else, given the effort contributed so far I'd be surprised to see them walk away from it all for the sake of £1m now or £5m down the line. Maybe there is a significant difference between an 18% ownership and a 20% ownership. Maybe the buyers have already split the other 82% and none of them are willing to dilute their share. Or, maybe, they just won’t be f**ked around by an arrogant narcissist who clearly knows as much about running a successful football club as my cat does. If someone came to me at the last minute to move the goal posts I wouldn’t stand for it. It wouldn’t matter if I had already invested thousands. I wouldn’t stand for it, and I’m not a billionaire who is used to getting everything he wants, all the time. Sometimes principles matter. Also if they are really spending £50m+ on a third division football club with an arse as a business partner it’s not going to be hard to find the same deal elsewhere. |
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Post by valleyfaithful on Jan 29, 2023 21:01:14 GMT
There's a good chance I'm cynical after five years of false dawns, and I completely believe the posters on here recently are sharing information from the horses mouth. One thing that doesn't make much sense to me is: This 2%. I understand it's about the equity and not the up-front amount (alluding to the fact that 2% will be worth much more once the potential billionaire owners have had a crack at it). But if they're sure of success I'm surprised they'd broker a deal at all which includes Sandaard retaining stake. Giving Sandgaard his money back plus an additional (even) five mil for his trouble should be small change to a group such as these if they're confident of swift improvement. With that considered, men of that worth generally value their time above all else, given the effort contributed so far I'd be surprised to see them walk away from it all for the sake of £1m now or £5m down the line. Maybe there is a significant difference between an 18% ownership and a 20% ownership. Maybe the buyers have already split the other 82% and none of them are willing to dilute their share. Or, maybe, they just won’t be f**ked around by an arrogant narcissist who clearly knows as much about running a successful football club as my cat does. If someone came to me at the last minute to move the goal posts I wouldn’t stand for it. It wouldn’t matter if I had already invested thousands. I wouldn’t stand for it, and I’m not a billionaire who is sued to getting everything he wants, all the time. Sometimes principles matter. Also if they are really spending £50m+ on a third division football club with an arse as a business partner it’s not going to be hard to find the same deal elsewhere. That's a good point, something I didn't really consider is the fact that TS retaining a share means doing business with him going forward and if he's this challenging now, what's he likely to be in 2-3 years time when things are rosey. |
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