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Post by seriouslyred on Nov 8, 2021 10:30:29 GMT
I'd rate our CBs if fit:- Elewere (for his passing) Inniss Famewo Lavelle Pearce With possibly Clare to be in the list if he played more games there. We have tried FBs there, but under 6' blockers will be targeted if we persist. From my list, a LCB is essential as I doubt JP will play next season. Jan or Jun, doubt will matter as top six seems beyond us. Spring 2022 should be very interesting as Elerewe develops and Lavelle back fit. Also Gunter can play in a three at the back which appears to be Jackson’s approach. Contracts for Pearce, Inniss and Gunter are all up next summer. Of the three I can see Gunter being offered but not the other two. Hard to comment on our top six potential right now given the complete turnaround under Jackson - let's see where we are in January.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2021 12:17:51 GMT
I'd rate our CBs if fit:- Elewere (for his passing) Inniss Famewo Lavelle Pearce With possibly Clare to be in the list if he played more games there. We have tried FBs there, but under 6' blockers will be targeted if we persist. From my list, a LCB is essential as I doubt JP will play next season. Jan or Jun, doubt will matter as top six seems beyond us. Spring 2022 should be very interesting as Elerewe develops and Lavelle back fit. Also Gunter can play in a three at the back which appears to be Jackson’s approach. Contracts for Pearce, Inniss and Gunter are all up next summer. Of the three I can see Gunter being offered but not the other two. Hard to comment on our top six potential right now given the complete turnaround under Jackson - let's see where we are in January. The perversity of being wedded to loan signings has been proved beyond doubt with the sad case of Conor Gallagher. Head and shoulders our finest player in the all too brief six months that we developed him for his own club. He is now the Fan’s No.1 favourite at Palace. Not only that, listening to his interview on Saturday, Gallagher is spouting near identical cliches about loving his time there and what great fans etc ….as he did when he was with us, Swansea and West Brom. This is why I and some other fans never fall into the trap of confusing our own players with the transitory fly by nights and mercenaries and crocks that we borrow from other teams.
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Post by aucklandaddick on Nov 8, 2021 12:39:45 GMT
Spring 2022 should be very interesting as Elerewe develops and Lavelle back fit. Also Gunter can play in a three at the back which appears to be Jackson’s approach. Contracts for Pearce, Inniss and Gunter are all up next summer. Of the three I can see Gunter being offered but not the other two. Hard to comment on our top six potential right now given the complete turnaround under Jackson - let's see where we are in January. The perversity of being wedded to loan signings has been proved beyond doubt with the sad case of Conor Gallagher. Head and shoulders our finest player in the all too brief six months that we developed him for his own club. He is now the Fan’s No.1 favourite at Palace. Not only that, listening to his interview on Saturday, Gallagher is spouting near identical cliches about loving his time there and what great fans etc ….as he did when he was with us, Swansea and West Brom. This is why I and some other fans never fall into the trap of confusing our own players with the transitory fly by nights and mercenaries and crocks that we borrow from other teams. They all play the game and kiss the badge for whatever team they turn out for…..must admit I can’t stand listening to him bigging up Palace and their fans blah blah blah………..Gallagher will be back playing in Chelsea’s first team next season as well as in and around the England squad and he will have forgotten all about his time at us or the Nigels etc…. Must admit I have more time for the likes of Famewo and Leko who chose to come back to us for a second time because they enjoyed being part of Charlton……I would love us to get Famewo, Leko Lee and even Blackett Taylor all signed on perms as then we can start building properly as a club having quality players as Charlton players rather than temporary loan players…..
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Post by observer on Nov 8, 2021 12:52:47 GMT
I'd rate our CBs if fit:- Elewere (for his passing) Inniss Famewo Lavelle Pearce With possibly Clare to be in the list if he played more games there. We have tried FBs there, but under 6' blockers will be targeted if we persist. From my list, a LCB is essential as I doubt JP will play next season. Jan or Jun, doubt will matter as top six seems beyond us. Rather rose-tinted glasses I think. Elewere shows a lot of promise but needs to be tested over a period against adults. No reason why he shouldn't become number one choice but it's a bit early. A fit Inniss is far and away the best. Any news on when we might see him again?
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Post by seriouslyred on Nov 8, 2021 14:10:28 GMT
Spring 2022 should be very interesting as Elerewe develops and Lavelle back fit. Also Gunter can play in a three at the back which appears to be Jackson’s approach. Contracts for Pearce, Inniss and Gunter are all up next summer. Of the three I can see Gunter being offered but not the other two. Hard to comment on our top six potential right now given the complete turnaround under Jackson - let's see where we are in January. The perversity of being wedded to loan signings has been proved beyond doubt with the sad case of Conor Gallagher. Head and shoulders our finest player in the all too brief six months that we developed him for his own club. He is now the Fan’s No.1 favourite at Palace. Not only that, listening to his interview on Saturday, Gallagher is spouting near identical cliches about loving his time there and what great fans etc ….as he did when he was with us, Swansea and West Brom. This is why I and some other fans never fall into the trap of confusing our own players with the transitory fly by nights and mercenaries and crocks that we borrow from other teams. Porque no los dos?! When we were all at Wembley three years ago did we differentiate between those on loan and those on permanent contracts? Or between those committed to the club and those who were out of contract within a month of winning promotion? The simple fact is that our current squad needs to gel, consolidate and win a few more games to reach the top half of this third tier. Come January I for one won't care if new signings are permanent or loan. And whilst we might appreciate moves to sign Lee and Famewo on perm deals that shouldn't affect our enjoyment of the run in. My observation is that some will slate the entire squad after a few games without a win. Often picking out scapegoats as well as blaming the executives. And yet today we find ourselves applauding Elerewe's signature as well as considering if a push to repeat our triumph from three years back is at all possible. That's the beauty of our club and three points for a win.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2021 14:22:08 GMT
The perversity of being wedded to loan signings has been proved beyond doubt with the sad case of Conor Gallagher. Head and shoulders our finest player in the all too brief six months that we developed him for his own club. He is now the Fan’s No.1 favourite at Palace. Not only that, listening to his interview on Saturday, Gallagher is spouting near identical cliches about loving his time there and what great fans etc ….as he did when he was with us, Swansea and West Brom. This is why I and some other fans never fall into the trap of confusing our own players with the transitory fly by nights and mercenaries and crocks that we borrow from other teams. Porque no los dos?! When we were all at Wembley three years ago did we differentiate between those on loan and those on permanent contracts? Or between those committed to the club and those who were out of contract within a month of winning promotion? The simple fact is that our current squad needs to gel, consolidate and win a few more games to reach the top half of this third tier. Come January I for one won't care if new signings are permanent or loan. And whilst we might appreciate moves to sign Lee and Famewo on perm deals that shouldn't affect our enjoyment of the run in. My observation is that some will slate the entire squad after a few games without a win. Often picking out scapegoats as well as blaming the executives. And yet today we find ourselves applauding Elerewe's signature as well as considering if a push to repeat our triumph from three years back is at all possible. That's the beauty of our club and three points for a win. I hope you were thinking of me with that second last paragraph? My point is that we (you) shouldn’t get so emotionally attached to loans - you often cite Cullen in your defence, but for every Cullen there are ten McGeady or Kamals. I agree with you about Elliott Lee (although his Dad’s hypocrisy is making me laugh) - a good player, who should be our first signing in January IF he can stay fit between now and then.
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Post by 1978sussex on Nov 6, 2022 20:22:15 GMT
Been recalled from hes loan spell
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Post by jonkool on Nov 6, 2022 22:30:25 GMT
Been recalled from hes loan spell It will be interesting to see if he has filled out and ready to compete with physical tier 3 attackers? Has a lot of game and potential.
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Post by canterburyaddick on Nov 6, 2022 22:50:38 GMT
Been recalled from hes loan spell It will be interesting to see if he has filled out and ready to compete with physical tier 3 attackers? Has a lot of game and potential. It would seem that he has been looked after by the club as he clearly has potential after his previous appearances. I would have thought that there would be plenty of physical attackers in National League, JK. Maybe some who make up in physicallity what they lack in skill. I'm looking forward to seeing how he does if he gets the chance.
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Post by DFT on Nov 7, 2022 10:09:22 GMT
It will be interesting to see if he has filled out and ready to compete with physical tier 3 attackers? Has a lot of game and potential. It would seem that he has been looked after by the club as he clearly has potential after his previous appearances. I would have thought that there would be plenty of physical attackers in National League, JK. Maybe some who make up in physicallity what they lack in skill. I'm looking forward to seeing how he does if he gets the chance. The way our central defenders are dropping I think he'll get his chance soon!
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Post by aaronaldo on Nov 7, 2022 10:25:33 GMT
Will he be eligible for the Stevenage game then?
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Post by jonkool on Nov 7, 2022 18:26:58 GMT
Will he be eligible for the Stevenage game then? I would have thought so as he’s not played in the Prem/EFL when out on loan so shouldn’t be cup tied. He may have played in earlier FA cup rounds (??) and if so will not be eligible to play in round 2 … just checked wiki and he has played an FA Cup tie for Wealdstone so ineligible for round 2.
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Post by reamsofverse on May 7, 2023 16:42:10 GMT
Poor old DJ. The Bromley hero in midweek when they won at Woking in the play-offs but today at Chesterfield, just a game away from Wembley in the final he scores an own goal and then gets sent off as they lose 2-1.
Chesterfield will face Notts County in the final having come from 0-2 down to beat Borehamwood in injury time, in extra time.
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Post by aaronaldo on May 7, 2023 16:42:48 GMT
Not having the best day today… OG and then sent off. Although, having seen the challenge I think it’s very harsh for a red.
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Post by tonaddick on May 7, 2023 16:56:25 GMT
Poor old DJ. The Bromley hero in midweek when they won at Woking in the play-offs but today at Chesterfield, just a game away from Wembley in the final he scores an own goal and then gets sent off as they lose 2-1. Chesterfield will face Notts County in the final having come from 0-2 down to beat Borehamwood in injury time, in extra time. And then Michael Cheek popped up.
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Post by kings hill addick on May 7, 2023 17:01:24 GMT
Not having the best day today… OG and then sent off. Although, having seen the challenge I think it’s very harsh for a red. Should Bromley manage the miracle and make the final does Deji miss it for a straight red?
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Post by reamsofverse on May 7, 2023 17:08:29 GMT
Poor old DJ. The Bromley hero in midweek when they won at Woking in the play-offs but today at Chesterfield, just a game away from Wembley in the final he scores an own goal and then gets sent off as they lose 2-1. Chesterfield will face Notts County in the final having come from 0-2 down to beat Borehamwood in injury time, in extra time. And then Michael Cheek popped up. 3-2 now!! My life feed froze and was still showing 2-1 as of just now!!
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Post by reamsofverse on May 7, 2023 17:09:56 GMT
Not having the best day today… OG and then sent off. Although, having seen the challenge I think it’s very harsh for a red. Should Bromley manage the miracle and make the final does Deji miss it for a straight red? Yes unfortunately but they are losing 3-2 now.
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Post by tonaddick on May 7, 2023 17:20:34 GMT
And then Michael Cheek popped up. 3-2 now!! My life feed froze and was still showing 2-1 as of just now!! I think it went in just after I pressed send.
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Post by vaangard on May 15, 2023 0:11:11 GMT
From BBC line ups he has been playing upfront or wide left. Despite Bromley success, surely a wasted loan?
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Post by tonaddick on May 15, 2023 5:46:05 GMT
From BBC line ups he has been playing upfront or wide left. Despite Bromley success, surely a wasted loan? If you watched any of the games, or read the reports on the Bromley website, you will have seen that he was playing on the left of three centre backs. Despite getting sent off in the playoff semi final he seems to have developed well and is actually looking bigger. Given how much he struggled to deal with powerful players when he first broke into the first team I think this loan may have been the making of Deji.
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Post by cafclover on May 26, 2023 15:23:34 GMT
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Post by Professor Glum on Jul 11, 2023 11:51:52 GMT
DH stated that Deji is part of his first team plans this year as has had a great start to pre season, very happy with this, cannot find link though.
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Post by aaronaldo on Jul 11, 2023 11:57:49 GMT
“Deji is part of our plans,” Holden told the South London Press, when asked about Woodman being in attendance. “He’s shown really well in the first couple of weeks of pre-season. We’ll keep building.”
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Post by kings hill addick on Jul 11, 2023 14:46:26 GMT
DH stated that Deji is part of his first team plans this year as has had a great start to pre season, very happy with this, cannot find link though. If he is good enough then this is, indeed, good news. If, however, he is not up to standard and we're putting him in the squad to save money on a more experienced player then this is no, quite, such good news. Having said that, with just one year left on his contract, we do need to make a decision about him. If he is not up to third division football this season (even if it's as fourth or fifth choice) then it's questionable is we should keep him past next summer especially if we are genuinely aiming for promotion.
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Post by seriouslyred on Jul 11, 2023 20:42:47 GMT
DH stated that Deji is part of his first team plans this year as has had a great start to pre season, very happy with this, cannot find link though. If he is good enough then this is, indeed, good news. If, however, he is not up to standard and we're putting him in the squad to save money on a more experienced player then this is no, quite, such good news. Having said that, with just one year left on his contract, we do need to make a decision about him. If he is not up to third division football this season (even if it's as fourth or fifth choice) then it's questionable is we should keep him past next summer especially if we are genuinely aiming for promotion. That makes sense. Might I add a third option? Good enough now, not good enough, or does he have the potential to develop into one of our best 16 players in say 2024? Academy graduates under contract might be on £2K a week which is a lot less than a third tier journeyman. If an Academy player is good enough to play 50 games by the age of 20 or 21 then he could be worth a lot to us or another club. And it sends all the right messages to the U18s who are striving to make it.
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Post by kings hill addick on Jul 11, 2023 21:57:30 GMT
If he is good enough then this is, indeed, good news. If, however, he is not up to standard and we're putting him in the squad to save money on a more experienced player then this is no, quite, such good news. Having said that, with just one year left on his contract, we do need to make a decision about him. If he is not up to third division football this season (even if it's as fourth or fifth choice) then it's questionable is we should keep him past next summer especially if we are genuinely aiming for promotion. That makes sense. Might I add a third option? Good enough now, not good enough, or does he have the potential to develop into one of our best 16 players in say 2024? Academy graduates under contract might be on £2K a week which is a lot less than a third tier journeyman. If an Academy player is good enough to play 50 games by the age of 20 or 21 then he could be worth a lot to us or another club. And it sends all the right messages to the U18s who are striving to make it. I agree. I was suggesting that we need to have a look at him. That said if we, really, are aiming for challenging to get into the Premier League (I.e. top ten in the Championship) then if he is not able to hold his own for half a dozen games in tier three this season he will have a lot of developing to do to get into our first team in the next two to three years.
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Post by seriouslyred on Jul 11, 2023 23:35:10 GMT
That makes sense. Might I add a third option? Good enough now, not good enough, or does he have the potential to develop into one of our best 16 players in say 2024? Academy graduates under contract might be on £2K a week which is a lot less than a third tier journeyman. If an Academy player is good enough to play 50 games by the age of 20 or 21 then he could be worth a lot to us or another club. And it sends all the right messages to the U18s who are striving to make it. I agree. I was suggesting that we need to have a look at him. That said if we, really, are aiming for challenging to get into the Premier League (I.e. top ten in the Championship) then if he is not able to hold his own for half a dozen games in tier three this season he will have a lot of developing to do to get into our first team in the next two to three years. Agreed and the same goes for all the other players in the current squad plus those who are recruited over the next seven weeks. Every individual will have their own development plan. In between transfer windows SE7 Partners need to ensure that the majority of our players hit their targets. This should ensure a top six finish if recruitment is decent. Plenty of players will be released next summer and fans rarely have many qualms about those who are released.
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