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Post by ashaddick on Jul 13, 2014 22:53:01 GMT
Very hard to believe that there was not a British option in the striking department who is better than this guy. His CV cries out "journeyman". All I will say is that RD has brought in seven players in the last couple of weeks, and not one of them is a Brit. That is appalling, IMO. If you add these to the 8 players he signed last season, he has actually signed one British player (Tudgay) out of 15. Something is very wrong here. Will we ever sign another British player while RD is owner. I am not saying don't sign any foreigners, but there needs to be a balance. "Are you local?" I am, and I have some agreement, not total, but some,
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 13, 2014 23:01:20 GMT
Just for the pedantic twats on Charlton Life, Big George has agreed to join us signed on the dotted line but it won't be made official until tomorrow.
That forum really is clogged up with so much shit!
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Post by americanaddick on Jul 13, 2014 23:13:41 GMT
Not really sure why we need him as i'm not sure he is better than what we currently have....unless of course Reza or Church are off.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2014 23:14:49 GMT
First post you've made that I've agreed with
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Post by scabbyhorse on Jul 14, 2014 5:10:10 GMT
Not really sure why we need him as i'm not sure he is better than what we currently have....unless of course Reza or Church are off. Pigott, Church two absolutely awful strikers both would do well to score goals in league two, so welcome george looking at footage it seems he can strike the ball which travels faster than 3 mph. So thats a start. As for Pigott I was being kind on another thread I made about him but how the fuck is he a professional footballer? Lets be honest should be no where near championship level football. The first half team against Welling would struggle in league two imo so for me it shows we still have a little way to go in the recruiting department.
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Post by overthetop on Jul 14, 2014 6:34:53 GMT
If we won the Premier League (or even the Championship tbh) with one Brit in the squad, I suspect 98% of Charlton fans would be happy. Did anyone complain when we were in the Prem with Jensen, Di Canio, Hreidarsson, Kishishev, Bartlett, Rommedahl, Fish, El Karkouri Jonatan Johansson, Smertin etc etc? , To be fair to Royston, Hreidarsson was actually born in Plumstead and El Karkouri came for the Isle of Sheppey.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2014 7:13:35 GMT
First post you've made that I've agreed with Yep. The most sense he's ever talked!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2014 7:13:59 GMT
Did anyone complain when we were in the Prem with Jensen, Di Canio, Hreidarsson, Kishishev, Bartlett, Rommedahl, Fish, El Karkouri Jonatan Johansson, Smertin etc etc? , To be fair to Royston, Hreidarsson was actually born in Plumstead and El Karkouri came for the Isle of Sheppey. @ over You are missing the point. Nobody was worried in the days when we had Herman, or Costa, or Jensen, because they were TOP CLASS international players who played alongside home grown talent like Steve Brown and quality English lads like Danny Mills, Chris Powell, Scott Parker & Darren Bent. We don't have that balance anymore. Do yourself a favour and download the excellent interview with Graham Taylor on Radio 4 this morning. He makes the valid point that German teams do well because....guess what. ..their FA imposes quotas on the number of indigenous players who must feature in all.but name. In this country the tail is now wagging the dog. It is the opposite. The next time England miss a penalty in a World Cup game, or an England player loses his marker or overhits a pass, remind yourself that you supported Charlton's owners when they blocked English talent with cheap foreign cack. You can't have it both ways. Listen to Graham Taylor.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2014 7:53:17 GMT
But Charlton are not blocking British talent. From the Academy that is involved in the first team we have Solly, Gomez, Cousins, Harriott , Pigott, Wilson, Lennon Fox. We also have other British players in the squad in Phillips, Pope, Morrison, Wiggins, Jackson, Church. The majority of the players in the squad are still British and eight are from the Academy. That is still a large number. If you look at other Championship teams how many have eight Academy players in their squad? I am afraid your argument Royston doesn't hold up.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2014 7:56:33 GMT
But Charlton are not blocking British talent. From the Academy that is involved in the first team we have Solly, Gomez, Cousins, Harriott , Pigott, Wilson, Lennon Fox. We also have other British players in the squad in Phillips, Pope, Morrison, Wiggins, Jackson, Church. The majority of the players in the squad are still British and eight are from the Academy. That is still a large number. If you look at other Championship teams how many have eight Academy players in their squad? I am afraid your argument Royston doesn't hold up. It does, because Harriott, Piggot, Fox, and possibly Cousins & Solly won't get game time next season because RD will tell Peeters to pick his signings. Don't take my word for it - ask Alex Dyer & Jose Riga.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2014 8:54:37 GMT
First post you've made that I've agreed with That's because your views are generally wrong.
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Post by DFT on Jul 14, 2014 9:45:36 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2014 9:58:50 GMT
But Charlton are not blocking British talent. From the Academy that is involved in the first team we have Solly, Gomez, Cousins, Harriott , Pigott, Wilson, Lennon Fox. We also have other British players in the squad in Phillips, Pope, Morrison, Wiggins, Jackson, Church. The majority of the players in the squad are still British and eight are from the Academy. That is still a large number. If you look at other Championship teams how many have eight Academy players in their squad? I am afraid your argument Royston doesn't hold up. It does, because Harriott, Piggot, Fox, and possibly Cousins & Solly won't get game time next season because RD will tell Peeters to pick his signings. Don't take my word for it - ask Alex Dyer & Jose Riga. Absolute nonsense. Peeters has said that The other central defenders have to catch up with Gomez. Has RD told Peeters that he has to play Gomez.? Peeters will pick the players who he thinks are the best to get Charlton a result.
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Post by valley89 on Jul 14, 2014 10:12:53 GMT
But Charlton are not blocking British talent. From the Academy that is involved in the first team we have Solly, Gomez, Cousins, Harriott , Pigott, Wilson, Lennon Fox. We also have other British players in the squad in Phillips, Pope, Morrison, Wiggins, Jackson, Church. The majority of the players in the squad are still British and eight are from the Academy. That is still a large number. If you look at other Championship teams how many have eight Academy players in their squad? I am afraid your argument Royston doesn't hold up. It does, because Harriott, Piggot, Fox, and possibly Cousins & Solly won't get game time next season because RD will tell Peeters to pick his signings. Don't take my word for it - ask Alex Dyer & Jose Riga. Clearly you know better than everyone else. Not a chance in hell will then players not be playing this season!
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Post by americanaddick on Jul 14, 2014 10:22:34 GMT
Has Roland not said on many an occasion that the academy is critical to his future plans for the club??? If Roland were so anti British then you wouldn't see Joe Gomez near the first team.
I'd actually argue that Harriott, Piggot, Fox and probably Solly should NOT be in our long term plans; a. Harriott is REALLY inconsistent and isn't top flight material b. Piggot isn't even Championship material c. Fox is decent for the Championship, but again, not top flight material d. Solly has a bad knee and in all honestly we should sell him because knee issues don't get better, they get worse.
The only academy players currently in the first team that even have the ability to step up to the Premier League are Gomez and Cousins. The rest are Championship quality AT BEST. The whole reason we even began pushing so many academy graduates into the first team was because our previous three boards were broke. We now have a rich owner who isn't afraid to spend and no longer need to bring sub-par academy players into the first team. One could even make an argument that Judas Poyet would find it difficult to get a place in our current midfield.
Said it before and i'll say it again...for every one Joe Gomez we produce ten Tamer Tunas.
Oh and before Royston starts raving about needing British players...
Where did a British team, British coaching staff and British board get us last season?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2014 10:34:01 GMT
It does, because Harriott, Piggot, Fox, and possibly Cousins & Solly won't get game time next season because RD will tell Peeters to pick his signings. Don't take my word for it - ask Alex Dyer & Jose Riga. Clearly you know better than everyone else. Not a chance in hell will then players not be playing this season! Can I respectfully suggest that you actually read Dyer and Riga's comments. Presumably they both know more than you do.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2014 12:20:32 GMT
But Charlton are not blocking British talent. From the Academy that is involved in the first team we have Solly, Gomez, Cousins, Harriott , Pigott, Wilson, Lennon Fox. We also have other British players in the squad in Phillips, Pope, Morrison, Wiggins, Jackson, Church. The majority of the players in the squad are still British and eight are from the Academy. That is still a large number. If you look at other Championship teams how many have eight Academy players in their squad? I am afraid your argument Royston doesn't hold up. It does, because Harriott, Piggot, Fox, and possibly Cousins & Solly won't get game time next season because RD will tell Peeters to pick his signings. Don't take my word for it - ask Alex Dyer & Jose Riga. Tosh and nonsense, RV. Don't take my word for it. Ask Bob Peeters. As you seem to have missed it, this what he said after the Welling game: “I said from the first day when I signed the contract that I want to work with the young guns and sometimes you get defeats because they need to learn”.
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Post by bingaddick on Jul 14, 2014 12:27:00 GMT
So back to the thread - has Tucudean signed or not? Still not on the OS.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2014 12:32:14 GMT
It does, because Harriott, Piggot, Fox, and possibly Cousins & Solly won't get game time next season because RD will tell Peeters to pick his signings. Don't take my word for it - ask Alex Dyer & Jose Riga. Tosh and nonsense, RV. Don't take my word for it. Ask Bob Peeters. As you seem to have missed it, this what he said after the Welling game: “I said from the first day when I signed the contract that I want to work with the young guns and sometimes you get defeats because they need to learn”. Bob has got a lot to prove, IA.
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Post by overthetop on Jul 14, 2014 13:22:12 GMT
How about comparing the two teams in this years Champions League Final - Real started with 3 Spaniards in their team and Athletico started with six.
As for Real's knock out stage opponents (all German) well Bayern Munich's squad is only 50% German, Dortmund has 13 out of 27 in the squad as non Germans and Schalke only have 50% German Nationals in their squad.
Which just goes to show that no change from normal, Graham Taylor is talking out of his arse and makes up statistics to suit his own agendas.
Do I not like that?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2014 14:43:02 GMT
Anyone know what the hold up is with the new signing? Is he out there with the squad?
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Post by cafcforever on Jul 14, 2014 15:03:58 GMT
Thought it would be on the OS by now because he from standard leige.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2014 15:16:57 GMT
for the record hes Romanian.
Also, for you lot moaning about non british players, did you see how well we did in the world cup ? hummm, STOP moaning about someone INVESTING in the club, at last we have some ambition, better players, and a brighter future !
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2014 15:19:52 GMT
Thought it would be on the OS by now because he from standard leige. That's the reason for the delay in the transfer. Charlton's owner cannot get hold of Standard Liege's owner. They keep missing each other.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2014 15:23:06 GMT
Thought it would be on the OS by now because he from standard leige. That's the reason for the delay in the transfer. Charlton's owner cannot get hold of Standard Liege's owner. They keep missing each other. That actually made me chuckle
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Post by valley89 on Jul 14, 2014 15:47:02 GMT
Clearly you know better than everyone else. Not a chance in hell will then players not be playing this season! Can I respectfully suggest that you actually read Dyer and Riga's comments. Presumably they both know more than you do. And clearly you believe everything you read! Thank god Riga did pick 'RD's players' as they kept us up
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 14, 2014 16:10:56 GMT
Royston who gives a flying fuck what Dyer says? He is a bitter, twisted shitester of a coach who got the hump because him and his pal were shown the door. The Liege players were picked over our lads last season which I said at the time was wrong but that was when RD had come in and totally underestimated what the Championship was all about, surely his summer signings have proved that. If Solly, Cousins, and Fox don't get a game it will be because other players in their positions are playing well...isn't that a good thing? Nobody has a right to a game of football because they came from the academy.
As for Pigot he won't get a game your right but not for the reasons you say.
On that note for the second time can we return to the topic of this thread please, I have just got in from work and surprised Tucudean has not yet been announced, I will therefore do some digging and come back to you..
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Post by bigandy99 on Jul 14, 2014 17:36:45 GMT
I'd like to think it hasn't fallen through... We're wasting valuable bonding time!
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Post by bexleyboy on Jul 14, 2014 17:40:08 GMT
First George Tucudean is with the team in Spain Chris Wood linked with us as a second target man
Royston you say and I quote cheap cack ...........we have a striker that cost 2.5 mill a midfielder valued at 2mill a winger valued at 1.5 and now a new striker valued at 1.5 mill hardly cheap cack as you put it ......
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Post by ExeterAddick on Jul 14, 2014 17:47:05 GMT
Chris Wood linked with us as a second target man I thought that rumour came from Richard Rufus's son on twitter, who then immediately admitted he'd made it up?
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