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Post by sussex on Sept 17, 2024 11:04:06 GMT
Fella I can't be bothered engaging with you. You have never seen Wrexham play in your life and basing your argument around what opposing fans have said about them straight after watching Wrexham beat them. Ot for a minute would they be bitter and twisted. Pointless having 67% of play and getting tonked 3-0. Stats mean nothing unless they include three points. As for us we won't be winning anything soon, not with the likes of Small and Berry in the side anyway. i saw wrexham vs bolton And birmingham both time got tore to peices as for berry he a brilliant football rather him then wrexham bang average midfield |
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Post by seriouslyred on Sept 17, 2024 11:09:42 GMT
This argument seems nuts to me, Birmingham at the moment look the best team in the league. Wrexham are going to be a major force in this league as are Huddersfield and a few others. Some teams over the next couple of months will fall away, others will come through to compete in the top six. Pretty much like most seasons things will change on a regular basis, it's called competition and that's why we love it. We are all Charlton supporters and in our own ways love the club, some of the posts just seem to be intended to get under the skin of others, guess we all get our kicks in different ways. I think being a Charlton supporter this season is going to be more enjoyable than it's been for a good while. We are far from the team we want to be, but at the moment we are grinding out some results and a bit of positivity goes a long way, it's infectious. UP THE ADDICKS. Birmingham are head and shoulders above the rest of us - nobody arguing with that after last night. Rotherham and Bolton were fancied at the start of the season but both have had shocking starts. It will take time for them to catch up with the pack. The top clubs will play each other over the next few weeks plus we'll get to the 10 game mark. The League is extremely competitive - just that this time we're in the mix. Should we win next week then we are a long, long way to 37 points at the halfway stage. We all know that we aren't creating enough chances, that our attacking play simply isn't fluid. We finally appear to have some threat from set pieces but in open play we are poor. To counter that, we know that Edwards and Leaburn should be available very soon, which should make a difference. Let's see where we are at the final whistle of the Wrexham game - ideally still in the mix. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 17, 2024 11:27:16 GMT
i saw wrexham vs bolton And birmingham both time got tore to peices as for berry he a brilliant football rather him then wrexham bang average midfield You saw as in you were at both games. Your posts are barely readable. Have English teachers in junior schools really got that bad? Berry brilliant? Righty oh! ššš Go and wum your classmates. Currently sharing your posts on Wrexham's main forum along with a few others from elsewhere. They are pissing themselves.....calling you and the 606 mob, trainspotters!šš |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Sept 17, 2024 11:32:04 GMT
While it's entirely natural for members of a football forum to discuss various teams, I feel that the current level of attention on Wrexham has become excessive. It's important to maintain a balance in the forumās discussions, ensuring that all teams are given appropriate attention. This disproportionate focus is starting to feel misplaced, and in my view, it detracts from the broader purpose of the platform. At this point, it might be too early to draw definitive conclusions, but I wanted to express my perspective that this obsession with Wrexham is becoming somewhat embarrassing Itās not just this forum/ thread Scabby they regularly feature in all the daily tabloids simply because of the ownersā¦ā¦.it was pretty unusual to see all the publicity surrounding them going up when there was hardly a word written about the Champions Stockportā¦ I would also imagine the same conversations are going on on other clubs forumsā¦.. I totally get the added interest in the thread last night as you had what they call the Hollywood Derby going on with all the circus surrounding itā¦..Becks, the Becks family and Gary Neville all rocking up on a Monday night in Birmingham to jump on the Tom Brady and Birmingham band wagonā¦..found it all a bit nauseating myself especially seeing Beckham celebrating Birminghams goalsā¦.WTF was all that aboutā¦.š³ā¦.. The game was interesting to watch and a barometer of the different levels between clubs in league oneā¦..Wrexham were no mugs but they were simply outclassed by a side who have been invested in by their owners to go straight through to the Premier League as quickly as they canā¦.I have spoken previously about the buzz that both of these teams owners have created within those clubs with full houses each week and sponsors all wanting to jump on the bandwagon whilst all the publicity is thereā¦.. I wonder if our wealthy owners were watching on and I would be interested to hear their thoughts on the way Birminghams and Wrexhams owners have created that buzz within their towns and football clubsā¦ā¦..maybe it might catch onā¦you never knowā¦. Another interesting watch was the amount of ex Charlton players on show last night and TBH I didnāt think any of the five put in eye catching performancesā¦..May and Beielik were probably the least effective on the Brum side and as for Lee, Dobson and OāConnell there was plenty of chasing shadows going on with them and their team mates so it would be really tough to judge them on this one gameā¦.to me they looked the same as when they played for us, Lee flitted in and out of the game ( more out ) without making any impression and Dobson did his best to chase his opponents around the middle of the park, trying to stop Brums pass and movement game whilst putting in desperate tacklesā¦.. All in all it was an interesting watch with an atmosphere more akin to an end of season Championship playoff match rather than an early season league one fixtureā¦..but thatās what big investment brings to fansā¦.. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Sept 17, 2024 11:38:00 GMT
This argument seems nuts to me, Birmingham at the moment look the best team in the league. Wrexham are going to be a major force in this league as are Huddersfield and a few others. Some teams over the next couple of months will fall away, others will come through to compete in the top six. Pretty much like most seasons things will change on a regular basis, it's called competition and that's why we love it. We are all Charlton supporters and in our own ways love the club, some of the posts just seem to be intended to get under the skin of others, guess we all get our kicks in different ways. I think being a Charlton supporter this season is going to be more enjoyable than it's been for a good while. We are far from the team we want to be, but at the moment we are grinding out some results and a bit of positivity goes a long way, it's infectious. UP THE ADDICKS. Birmingham are head and shoulders above the rest of us - nobody arguing with that after last night. Rotherham and Bolton were fancied at the start of the season but both have had shocking starts. It will take time for them to catch up with the pack. The top clubs will play each other over the next few weeks plus we'll get to the 10 game mark. The League is extremely competitive - just that this time we're in the mix. Should we win next week then we are a long, long way to 37 points at the halfway stage. We all know that we aren't creating enough chances, that our attacking play simply isn't fluid. We finally appear to have some threat from set pieces but in open play we are poor. To counter that, we know that Edwards and Leaburn should be available very soon, which should make a difference. Let's see where we are at the final whistle of the Wrexham game - ideally still in the mix. Must admit I have now read two different posters saying we were far better than Rotherhamā¦ā¦I really must have watched a totally different game as I thought we were fortunate to nick a point due to a bit of brilliance from Chucksā¦.our only shot on target and Phillips pretty much had a day off on his return to the Valleyā¦..But I was well pleased with the point that we won, the stats though show Rotherham offered far more in attacking intentā¦ā¦. I also think Bolton will go on a run once they sort out the managerial situation which is a hangover from the Playoff finalā¦..They have too many quality players at this level to be where they are and I think they will deffo be in the mix come next Mayā¦. |
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Post by kings hill addick on Sept 17, 2024 11:39:11 GMT
sorry but thatās disgusting if he is biting the opponent- should be banned! He didn't bite him. The replay made it look like he thought about it but stopped short of touching the player with his teeth. Mullin did look very bad tempered last night. The commentators were talking about him losing his place in the side to the new signing, he could well be feeling under a lot of pressure. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 17, 2024 11:44:37 GMT
Birmingham are head and shoulders above the rest of us - nobody arguing with that after last night. Rotherham and Bolton were fancied at the start of the season but both have had shocking starts. It will take time for them to catch up with the pack. The top clubs will play each other over the next few weeks plus we'll get to the 10 game mark. The League is extremely competitive - just that this time we're in the mix. Should we win next week then we are a long, long way to 37 points at the halfway stage. We all know that we aren't creating enough chances, that our attacking play simply isn't fluid. We finally appear to have some threat from set pieces but in open play we are poor. To counter that, we know that Edwards and Leaburn should be available very soon, which should make a difference. Let's see where we are at the final whistle of the Wrexham game - ideally still in the mix. Must admit I have now read two different posters saying we were far better than Rotherhamā¦ā¦I really must have watched a totally different game as I thought we were fortunate to nick a point due to a bit of brilliance from Chucksā¦.our only shot on target and Phillips pretty much had a day off on his return to the Valleyā¦..But I was well pleased with the point that we won, the stats though show Rotherham offered far more in attacking intentā¦ā¦. Same here mate, I thought Rotherham dominated us all over the pitch as Shrewsbury did on Saturday. I wish Sussex would have said he's only ever watched Wrexham twice, albeit on the box. The way he's been talking all morning I was convinced he had watched them the same amount of times I have this calendar year, most of which from when I worked there last season. All that oxygen wasted on an armchair fan who thinks Berry is Mark Kinsella! š |
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Post by AndyB on Sept 17, 2024 11:48:34 GMT
sorry but thatās disgusting if he is biting the opponent- should be banned! He didn't bite him. The replay made it look like he thought about it but stopped short of touching the player with his teeth. Mullin did look very bad tempered last night. The commentators were talking about him losing his place in the side to the new signing, he could well be feeling under a lot of pressure. The big clue in what I said is the word āifā šš» |
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 17, 2024 12:04:24 GMT
Every team they played!!!! That's why they are top of the league averaging two goals a game. Discussing last night's defeat is fine by me but at least keep it sensible based on who they played. nearly most games they played they had 30 percent off the ball bolton battered them just couldn't score, shrewsbury where much better team just mistakes for goals and if peterbrought had shots on target they would win easily with 71 percent off ball and last night got battered come in few week they won't be top 6 that not just me saying they been lucky every game apart from. Reading opposition fans say wrexham are bang average and lucky to win and be found out Look at this and then please educate me on your thought process. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/live/c0k46ngmne4tIt's gone beyond Wrexham now for me, this is now about your misunderstanding of the game. You say that after beating Reading and Shewsbury 3-0, they were the inferior side in both games because of what the stats say and you have read feedback from fans of the beaten teams ten minutes after the game when they are bitter and twisted and feeling sorry for themselves. Shrewsbury dominated possession without being a threat but we won the game so do you think we won't finish top 10 either because last Saturday's opponents had more of the ball? |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Sept 17, 2024 12:19:25 GMT
All about opinions guysā¦.just a thought maybe we should just park this one and agree to disagreeā¦ā¦.
There is plenty to be positive at present about CAFC rather than discussing the pros and cons of other league one sidesā¦ā¦..I look forward to watching us even though at times the footie is attritionalā¦ā¦.We are solid, hardworking and hard to play against and hard to score againstā¦ā¦.. which is a good base to improve on moving forward
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Post by sussex on Sept 17, 2024 12:19:52 GMT
Look at this and then please educate me on your thought process. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/live/c0k46ngmne4tIt's gone beyond Wrexham now for me, this is now about your misunderstanding of the game. You say that after beating Reading and Shewsbury 3-0, they were the inferior side in both games because of what the stats say and you have read feedback from fans of the beaten teams ten minutes after the game when they are bitter and twisted and feeling sorry for themselves. Shrewsbury dominated possession without being a threat but we won the game so do you think we won't finish top 10 either because last Saturday's opponents had more of the ball? shrewsbury bolton birmingham peterbrought where all miles better then wrexham on the day wrexham should have 3 defeats now only reason didn't bolton peterbrought didn't take chances |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Sept 17, 2024 12:25:39 GMT
We can all come to agree to disagree come end seasan I be proven right with cafc in top 2 min and wrexham top 10 Ok fair enough Sussexā¦..as Seriously Red would sayā¦.lets see where we all are next Mayā¦ā¦š¤£š¤£š¤£ |
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 17, 2024 12:26:33 GMT
I agree Auckland.
It's like trying to teach an old dog new tricks.
A team isn't very good because the side they beat didn't take their chances!!
It's called football.
The End.
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Post by DFT on Sept 17, 2024 12:52:58 GMT
Good to see and hear McClean getting abused.
He brings it on himself and deserves every bit of it.
I believe a can was thrown at him too.
Not condoning violence of course but McClean is another matter!
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Post by kings hill addick on Sept 17, 2024 13:27:36 GMT
He didn't bite him. The replay made it look like he thought about it but stopped short of touching the player with his teeth. Mullin did look very bad tempered last night. The commentators were talking about him losing his place in the side to the new signing, he could well be feeling under a lot of pressure. The big clue in what I said is the word āifā šš» Of course. I misread your comment and assumed that you were, kind of, asking if anyone knew if he did bite him. My mistake, sorry. |
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Post by Mundell on Sept 17, 2024 14:00:41 GMT
Just for a bit of fun Iāve taken a look at Optaās āexpected pointsā table for League One. Opta have looked at the quantity and quality of chances created and conceded in each game played so far and then estimated how many points each team would, on average, have secured given this. There is lots of ānoiseā in analysis of this type, but it is at least an objective approach which can be applied consistently for each team.
In our case, Opta estimates our āexpected pointsā as 8.81. In other words, weāve currently got four more points than might typically be expected given the chances weāve created and conceded. Another way of looking at this is to say that given our very obvious lack of creativity, we canāt expect to continue winning two points per game. My guess is that weād all agree with that conclusion.
Anyway, the top ten in the expected points League table is as follows,
1. Stockport 10.6
2. Birmingham 10.51
3. Huddersfield 10.32
4. Rotherham 10.06
5. Blackpool 9.16
6. Barnsley 8.95
7. Charlton 8.81
8. Stevenage 8.67
9. Wrexham 7.86
10. Lincoln 7.55
Rotherham, Barnsley, Charlton and Wrexham have all played a game more than the others.
As I said, a bit of fun, but objective nevertheless. Extending the fun a little, if from now until the end of the season we pick up points at the rate of our current expected points, i.e. at 1.47 points per game, then weād finish the season with 72 points. That would probably leave us just outside the playoff places but within clear striking distance. This suggests that if Nathan Jones can retain our āformā out of possession and manage to slightly improve our creativity (it doesnāt appear to need a transformation) then weāll be in very strong contention for a place in the top six though probably way off the top two. That seems about right to me.
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 17, 2024 15:02:02 GMT
Good to see and hear McClean getting abused. He brings it on himself and deserves every bit of it. I believe a can was thrown at him too. Not condoning violence of course but McClean is another matter! Yes it was but he caught it and gently lobbed it back. Horrible bastard I agree. |
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Post by seriouslyred on Sept 17, 2024 15:52:17 GMT
All about opinions guysā¦.just a thought maybe we should just park this one and agree to disagreeā¦ā¦. There is plenty to be positive at present about CAFC rather than discussing the pros and cons of other league one sidesā¦ā¦..I look forward to watching us even though at times the footie is attritionalā¦ā¦.We are solid, hardworking and hard to play against and hard to score againstā¦ā¦.. which is a good base to improve on moving forward Instead of parking this why not evolve this discussion about the best sides in League One? Posession doesn't equal a winning approach simply because it depends where you have the ball and what you do with it when you're in the attacking third. Charlton have had 45% posession all season but have won four out of six. One can argue that not all of those wins were fully deserved... or that Wrexham defence looks shaky but has only been found out once (last night)... and isn't that the point of message boards? Roughly half stated in the poll that we're good for the top six after 23 games whereas the other half said not good enough. But we certainly haven't played enough games to have any certainty about where we will be by January, let alone May. A few more games will tell us more but what's fascinating is the comparison between Wrexham and ourselves with both clubs owned by wealthy US investors - Their owners are hands on whereas ours were brought in by the management team - Both clubs could have spent more over the summer but they've focussed on new strikers plus keeping their keeper (who was a loan from Arsenal). Whilst we are focussed upon building from the back. - And both clubs have been shopping around for ex Luton players etc. Parkinson has actually come out and stated that Birmingham outbid them several times over the summer. Most tip Birmingham for automatic promotion whilst there appear to be another nine or ten clubs capable of exceeding 75 points for the season. So let's sit back, enjoy and hold a healthy discussion  |
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Post by AndyB on Sept 17, 2024 17:59:34 GMT
All about opinions guysā¦.just a thought maybe we should just park this one and agree to disagreeā¦ā¦. There is plenty to be positive at present about CAFC rather than discussing the pros and cons of other league one sidesā¦ā¦..I look forward to watching us even though at times the footie is attritionalā¦ā¦.We are solid, hardworking and hard to play against and hard to score againstā¦ā¦.. which is a good base to improve on moving forward Well said ! |
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 26, 2024 19:44:45 GMT
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