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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 3, 2024 17:37:06 GMT
Never laughed so much in all my life reading the many pages and comments from 'Wrexham FC' experts.
They haven't got a clue. That MintoHumbugs is delusional. They could go out and spend the sme amounst as what Birmingham have if they wanted to but never £5m, £7m or £10m on one player, they are far more streetwise than that but some of the things I know from living here and from life long fans is that they could blow this league out of the water and will do so if and when they need to. Until then they will just play their way to the Championship with the squad they have because after all it's better than most in the division.
The sponsors they have including Disney, United Airlines and at least half a dozen others from across the pond are filthy rich. They have a fantastic set up despite my downer on the owners for wanting to ignore the club history that has played a huge part in my life, to create their own.
I don't like them despite trying to last season when I worked there. I find both pretty ignorant when you bring teh clubs golden years up from the 70's, but I can guarantee you they will get Wrexham up in half the time our owners will.
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Post by valleydobson1 on Sept 3, 2024 18:16:31 GMT
Massive gap now see what oxford ,portsmouth do in the championship?.Look at luton one season in premier league forest the last club too survive.Wrexham could be £300m away from the premier league and don't have the 30,000 stadium or billionaire backing or saudi club etc.
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Post by valleydobson1 on Sept 3, 2024 18:19:54 GMT
Look at West ham since new stadium or Brighton can Wrexham do that?.At Charlton we got all the other london clubs.
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Post by valleydobson1 on Sept 3, 2024 18:21:55 GMT
Derby mucked up but how does Bournemouth do it?.
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 3, 2024 18:50:31 GMT
Massive gap now see what oxford ,portsmouth do in the championship?.Look at luton one season in premier league forest the last club too survive.Wrexham could be £300m away from the premier league and don't have the 30,000 stadium or billionaire backing or saudi club etc. Thing is, if they had a 30,000 stadium they would fill it. Currently 13000+ but stadium development waiting for the green light. Plenty of space around the current one to expand. Only Newcastle have the backing of a Saudi club so a soft comparison really. They have more than most outside of the EPL that's for sure. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 3, 2024 18:51:56 GMT
Look at West ham since new stadium or Brighton can Wrexham do that?.At Charlton we got all the other london clubs. It takes less time to get from Wrexham to Manchester and Liverpool than it does Charlton to Chelsea, West Ham, Tottenham or Arsenal. Both less than an hour away. People who live here and have supported the local big clubs for most of their lives don't go to Goodison, Anfield or any of the Manchester stadiums anymore. |
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Post by valleydobson1 on Sept 3, 2024 18:57:12 GMT
Chelsea owners must have shares in Saudi the amount of players sold last few years.one also last night.
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 3, 2024 19:00:32 GMT
Chelsea owners must have shares in Saudi the amount of players sold last few years.one also last night. The balance of Chelsea's shares have not been published, but it has been reported that Clearlake Capital holds a majority share of 50 per cent. Boehly is believed to own a significant minority and is the club's chairman. Swiss billionaire Hansjörg Wyss and Guggenheim Partners chief Mark Walter hold minority stakes. No Saudi's involved. |
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Post by valleydobson1 on Sept 3, 2024 19:04:39 GMT
Chelsea owners must have shares in Saudi the amount of players sold last few years.one also last night. The balance of Chelsea's shares have not been published, but it has been reported that Clearlake Capital holds a majority share of 50 per cent. Boehly is believed to own a significant minority and is the club's chairman. Swiss billionaire Hansjörg Wyss and Guggenheim Partners chief Mark Walter hold minority stakes. No Saudi's involved. So many chelsea players Gone saudi last couple of years thou. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 3, 2024 19:06:09 GMT
What's that got to do with it?
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Post by valleydobson1 on Sept 3, 2024 19:17:44 GMT
What's that got to do with it? Chelsea making profit from saudi. |
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Post by shazza on Sept 3, 2024 21:13:50 GMT
it's interesting that 2 of their midfield 3 were playing for us a couple of years ago and we let one, Lee go. a real shame as he is a great player and is proving it now. they also have another we let go who didn't really set the world alight in OConnell. just shows what can he done in time by getting the right manager in and letting them keep working.. I think we've got a manager with a clear plan now and given time it will come.
oh and Wrexham also have a manager we binned off to !
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Post by valleydobson1 on Sept 4, 2024 4:53:07 GMT
With the better squad we should finish above wrexham this season. See Orient are struggling and was above us last season.
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Post by willett on Sept 4, 2024 9:35:33 GMT
Couldn’t really care less about Wrexham but there were people on here saying that they would go down so not sure other forums are saying anything worse.
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Post by kings hill addick on Sept 4, 2024 10:40:37 GMT
I am a little indifferent about Wrexham but if they are, genuinely, going to challenge, and have very wealthy benefactors that are willing to 'invest', is that not going to put one more well funded club in front of us?
As sad as it is to say we are 100% a third division club now. Any talk of us being a big club or a sleeping giant is fanciful. Elevating a non league club above us just makes it harder for us to 'win' promotion. And based on how the club is being run we are going to have to win it as we are clearly not going to complete, financially, with the biggest clubs in the third division - something I never thought I would hear said about us.
Every year three clubs come down from the Championship that have benefitted from millions of pounds more TV money than us and that makes it hard enough. To have one come up from the division below with the same financial advantage just makes it harder, still.
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 4, 2024 11:29:18 GMT
With the better squad we should finish above wrexham this season. See Orient are struggling and was above us last season. No chance. They are top three all day long. I didn't expect them to be, not yet anyway but PP is a very good manager and has them playing football at a level above where they are at. |
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Post by valleyfaithful on Sept 4, 2024 11:37:31 GMT
I am a little indifferent about Wrexham but if they are, genuinely, going to challenge, and have very wealthy benefactors that are willing to 'invest', is that not going to put one more well funded club in front of us? As sad as it is to say we are 100% a third division club now. Any talk of us being a big club or a sleeping giant is fanciful. Elevating a non league club above us just makes it harder for us to 'win' promotion. And based on how the club is being run we are going to have to win it as we are clearly not going to complete, financially, with the biggest clubs in the third division - something I never thought I would hear said about us. Every year three clubs come down from the Championship that have benefitted from millions of pounds more TV money than us and that makes it hard enough. To have one come up from the division below with the same financial advantage just makes it harder, still. Completely agree but I would also argue that when the likes of Disney are sponsoring, Birmingham are throwing caution to the wind, does promotion actually benefit that much? I know pre-Sky+ the figure a promotion was worth was in the ballpark of £5mil but Birmingham paid triple that for a striker. I'm a little confused on what a sustainable model in football looks like - I know Methven has referred to some legislation coming in that might put a lid on it and equate our model with Europe's, but that will take a little while to come into practice. Every season you'll have three Championship budget teams coming down, one or two strong League One teams from the year before and two or three rich League Two clubs coming up (Stockport & Wrexham this year). The gap is ever widening but I'm not entirely sure what the end goal is. The only thing you can say is our way of doing business will at least mean there's a Charlton to support where as not every team throwing the cash about will be maintained long term, plenty of rich owners will get bored and then struggle to sell an overburdened asset. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 4, 2024 11:43:05 GMT
Couldn’t really care less about Wrexham but there were people on here saying that they would go down so not sure other forums are saying anything worse. I agree there were people on here saying they would go down but elsewhere there are individuals talking as if they know the club inside out and commenting on what they have to spend and falling well short on discussing their wealth and who the sponsors are or might be. The city is booming, the ground is rocking on a Saturday afternoon and there is a real connection with the fans and local residents. Everybody wants a ticket. Not seen anything live this since the early 70's I know most people connected to the club and having worked for them for most of last season I know exactly what their future looks like. They have just carried on from last season without spending much at all. If they go up again the millions are already there for them to build again to take on the final hurdle on their way to the EPL. I was hoping L1 would stop them in their tracks but it's not going to happen. |
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Post by 1962 on Sept 8, 2024 8:34:23 GMT
Never laughed so much in all my life reading the many pages and comments from 'Wrexham FC' experts. They haven't got a clue. That MintoHumbugs is delusional. They could go out and spend the sme amounst as what Birmingham have if they wanted to but never £5m, £7m or £10m on one player, they are far more streetwise than that but some of the things I know from living here and from life long fans is that they could blow this league out of the water and will do so if and when they need to. Until then they will just play their way to the Championship with the squad they have because after all it's better than most in the division. The sponsors they have including Disney, United Airlines and at least half a dozen others from across the pond are filthy rich. They have a fantastic set up despite my downer on the owners for wanting to ignore the club history that has played a huge part in my life, to create their own. I don't like them despite trying to last season when I worked there. I find both pretty ignorant when you bring teh clubs golden years up from the 70's, but I can guarantee you they will get Wrexham up in half the time our owners will. Not quite to sure that is correct Reams, when you hear them talk they always go on about the history of the club, inside the hospitality pictures are full of the 70s era and recent history. The support they are giving ex players at this moment Joey Jones is credible... No way have they come in and just ripped the club apart and said, " we are here now " plenty of fans from other clubs look up to Rob and Ryan as they see how generous they are to other clubs doing a fund for a stricken fans. Mansfield last season when 50 of them walked from field mill to the Racecourse, Ryan and Rob straight away 10k in the fund. The succes at the moment I have to give credit to Phil parkinson, was not sure at the beginning but full credit to him,he has a great team spirit and he makes sure players get to know the community. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 8, 2024 8:50:54 GMT
Never laughed so much in all my life reading the many pages and comments from 'Wrexham FC' experts. They haven't got a clue. That MintoHumbugs is delusional. They could go out and spend the sme amounst as what Birmingham have if they wanted to but never £5m, £7m or £10m on one player, they are far more streetwise than that but some of the things I know from living here and from life long fans is that they could blow this league out of the water and will do so if and when they need to. Until then they will just play their way to the Championship with the squad they have because after all it's better than most in the division. The sponsors they have including Disney, United Airlines and at least half a dozen others from across the pond are filthy rich. They have a fantastic set up despite my downer on the owners for wanting to ignore the club history that has played a huge part in my life, to create their own. I don't like them despite trying to last season when I worked there. I find both pretty ignorant when you bring teh clubs golden years up from the 70's, but I can guarantee you they will get Wrexham up in half the time our owners will. Not quite to sure that is correct Reams, when you hear them talk they always go on about the history of the club, inside the hospitality pictures are full of the 70s era and recent history. The support they are giving ex players at this moment Joey Jones is credible... No way have they come in and just ripped the club apart and said, " we are here now " plenty of fans from other clubs look up to Rob and Ryan as they see how generous they are to other clubs doing a fund for a stricken fans. Mansfield last season when 50 of them walked from field mill to the Racecourse, Ryan and Rob straight away 10k in the fund. The succes at the moment I have to give credit to Phil parkinson, was not sure at the beginning but full credit to him,he has a great team spirit and he makes sure players get to know the community. Pictures of the 70's era and my Dad's days have always been there though mate. They are mainly of players inducted into the hall of fame. I had to escort Reynolds from his chauffeur driven car to his suite a few times last season and while I found him to be OK to talk to, they are very much all about them and now. I see Joey Jones regularly, lives over the road from my sister. Not in the best of health these days. You know aswell as I do that whatever help they are giving him it hasn't always been the case. The club treated him appallingly leading up to and after his departure. |
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Post by 1962 on Sept 8, 2024 14:39:22 GMT
Don't think R@R have Rob visited him the week he was here for the Reading game...
Rob was with Dixie Mcneil in the Grosvenor Pulford that weekend..... His words
" This is a legend not Me " and Rob mac went out of his way to speak to everyone that wanted a picture..
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Post by 1962 on Sept 8, 2024 14:41:51 GMT
Not quite to sure that is correct Reams, when you hear them talk they always go on about the history of the club, inside the hospitality pictures are full of the 70s era and recent history. The support they are giving ex players at this moment Joey Jones is credible... No way have they come in and just ripped the club apart and said, " we are here now " plenty of fans from other clubs look up to Rob and Ryan as they see how generous they are to other clubs doing a fund for a stricken fans. Mansfield last season when 50 of them walked from field mill to the Racecourse, Ryan and Rob straight away 10k in the fund. The succes at the moment I have to give credit to Phil parkinson, was not sure at the beginning but full credit to him,he has a great team spirit and he makes sure players get to know the community. Pictures of the 70's era and my Dad's days have always been there though mate. They are mainly of players inducted into the hall of fame. I had to escort Reynolds from his chauffeur driven car to his suite a few times last season and while I found him to be OK to talk to, they are very much all about them and now. I see Joey Jones regularly, lives over the road from my sister. Not in the best of health these days. You know aswell as I do that whatever help they are giving him it hasn't always been the case. The club treated him appallingly leading up to and after his departure. Ryan Reynolds or Rob have never treated Joey with nothing but respect |
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Post by 1962 on Sept 8, 2024 14:47:20 GMT
Wrexham is an appropriate host city. Jones played for them in three spells and coached later on. His life story would make a Hollywood movie to impress the club’s current owners and it’s no surprise that if Joey attends matches at the Racecourse, Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney make a beeline for him.
Anybody on this forum just Google ryan reynolds joey jones......
Enough said on the matter
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Sept 8, 2024 15:04:33 GMT
it's interesting that 2 of their midfield 3 were playing for us a couple of years ago and we let one, Lee go. a real shame as he is a great player and is proving it now. I don't understand what you mean about letting Elliot Lee (who has never been our player) go. Am I missing something about his loan deal with us? |
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Post by 1962 on Sept 8, 2024 15:42:51 GMT
it's interesting that 2 of their midfield 3 were playing for us a couple of years ago and we let one, Lee go. a real shame as he is a great player and is proving it now. I don't understand what you mean about letting Elliot Lee (who has never been our player) go. Am I missing something about his loan deal with us? I can't understand how he ended up in the National league, really a decent player |
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 8, 2024 16:00:28 GMT
To be honest with you I haven't said that their treatment of Joey has been poor, I said they are here to create their own history and discussions I have had with Ryan Reynolds personally on some of the match days last season gave me the impression that the clubs history is in the past, it's their time now. I suppose that's what history is but when ever I have heard them talk, they have never gone beyond the Mickey Thomas goal against Arsenal. Joey was treated poorly by the club but it was before the Americans came along. I do have to correct you on their treatment of former players though because only two are invited to home games despite the matchday host and former player Nick Hencher pushing for more. It's why he left at the end of last season. Graham Whittle and Arfon Griffiths among others, won't go back there sadly. www.redpassion.co.uk/threads/what-happened-to-joey-jones.116492/ |
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Post by 1962 on Sept 8, 2024 16:43:17 GMT
To be honest with you I haven't said that their treatment of Joey has been poor, I said they are here to create their own history and discussions I have had with Ryan Reynolds personally on some of the match days last season gave me the impression that the clubs history is in the past, it's their time now. I suppose that's what history is but when ever I have heard them talk, they have never gone beyond the Mickey Thomas goal against Arsenal. Joey was treated poorly by the club but it was before the Americans came along. I do have to correct you on their treatment of former players though because only two are invited to home games despite the matchday host and former player Nick Hencher pushing for more. It's why he left at the end of last season. Graham Whittle and Arfon Griffiths among others, won't go back there sadly. www.redpassion.co.uk/threads/what-happened-to-joey-jones.116492/WST before R@R |
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Post by 1962 on Sept 8, 2024 16:49:51 GMT
To be honest with you I haven't said that their treatment of Joey has been poor, I said they are here to create their own history and discussions I have had with Ryan Reynolds personally on some of the match days last season gave me the impression that the clubs history is in the past, it's their time now. I suppose that's what history is but when ever I have heard them talk, they have never gone beyond the Mickey Thomas goal against Arsenal. Joey was treated poorly by the club but it was before the Americans came along. I do have to correct you on their treatment of former players though because only two are invited to home games despite the matchday host and former player Nick Hencher pushing for more. It's why he left at the end of last season. Graham Whittle and Arfon Griffiths among others, won't go back there sadly. www.redpassion.co.uk/threads/what-happened-to-joey-jones.116492/Neil Roberts, Beumont, King Karl, Bennett, couple more I can't think of have been guests when I've been in the hospitality talking before the game.Hencher living of his goal v Tranmere |
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 9, 2024 11:52:28 GMT
I did my coaching badges with Joey and Kevin Russell back in the day.
My claim to fame was nutmegging Liverpool, Wrexham and Wales legend Joey Jones in the match that was part of the course!! He was the man who put me in touch with the Santa Barbara Lanzara Soccer Academy owned in the 1990's by Hebert Vogelsinger who was part of the West German squad. Lovely man too.
He took it in good heart though. When he first moved to Wrexham as a kid my Dad took him under his wing and he lodged with us in Borras Park. Mickey Thomas did the same at Billy Hughes' next door but one. Billy got a free paddock ticket off my Dad for the eight years he played for Wrexham. Never missed a game. Sadly no longer with us.
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Post by valleydobson1 on Sept 9, 2024 19:30:08 GMT
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