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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 13, 2024 20:57:12 GMT
Reams - you seem to know the bigger picture around this deal...is the replacement for May you've hinted at a marquee striker with a proven record or a kid with lots of potential? Wouldn't say marquee, don't think we've had one of those for years but a name that has been given to me would keep Alfie May out of the side anyway if both were with us next season. |
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Post by watameires on Jun 13, 2024 20:57:42 GMT
Has Jones really earned the trust that so many people seem to be according him? I’m potentially ok with the sale although I like May but for me Nathan Jones still has it all to prove . For me he should be judged on the entirety of this coming season and not what he did at Luton or his honeymoon period with us so jury is still out from my perspective |
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Post by valleyofdreams on Jun 13, 2024 21:07:15 GMT
Reams - you seem to know the bigger picture around this deal...is the replacement for May you've hinted at a marquee striker with a proven record or a kid with lots of potential? Wouldn't say marquee, don't think we've had one of those for years but a name that has been given to me would keep Alfie May out of the side anyway if both were with us next season. Interesting. Wouldn't happen to be a West Ham junior would it? |
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Post by brad on Jun 13, 2024 21:17:31 GMT
Done with Charlton you can not sell your top goalscorer. Utter madness same old shit different owners . It’s not the owners this will be down to NJ to make this call .. May stay it’s to much of a massive risk by NJ and he can only lose from it You keep believing that mate. |
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Post by df3 on Jun 13, 2024 21:24:13 GMT
It’s not the owners this will be down to NJ to make this call .. May stay it’s to much of a massive risk by NJ and he can only lose from it You keep believing that mate. Id hope not, id hope its someone with a track record in place. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jun 13, 2024 21:28:28 GMT
It’s been a very interesting read tonight watching the debate between the posters saying it is Charlton Armageddon time and those saying it is good business, we will bring in better and in NJ we trust……
I think we have to bear in mind Alfie was the only shining light for our fan base last season and his goals kept us up as we were so piss poor for the majority of it………but was he as good or as valuable to us as Yann was when was forced out of the club?
As with the Dobson senario the time for us to judge whether this is the right or wrong decision will be based on who we bring in to replace him……I doubt very much that NJ would be too concerned about fan unrest about this decision, I think he is pretty single minded and focused on us bringing in players who he thinks would be good enough to play in the championship and I not sure Alfie really fits into this remit…..….Time will tell if this is the correct call by NJ or not as I think he is final decision maker…..
What I have noticed tonight is the vast amount of new poster signings made by this forum tonight which would put Steve Evan’s at Rotherham to shame….🤣🤣A big welcome to all new on here….
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Post by keepthefaith on Jun 13, 2024 21:30:45 GMT
I spose it's very simple really. If we sell Alfie to another side in this league, and the player(s) we replace him with contributes any less, then it is a mistake.
I don't mind losing Alfie to sign better, but if we let him stay in this league, never mind even to a team with shorter promotion odds than us, then it is beyond comical.
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jun 13, 2024 21:31:53 GMT
It’s not the owners this will be down to NJ to make this call .. May stay it’s to much of a massive risk by NJ and he can only lose from it You keep believing that mate. A really good call by you Brad with regards to both the Dobson and May scenarios……but in future mate could you please try and post some positive news about our club when you hear it……🤣🤣 |
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Post by keepthefaith on Jun 13, 2024 21:34:16 GMT
We sold CBT when we were in a relegation battle. He was 2nd top scorer (I believe) and had the most assists at the time, and there was no effort to replace him. Selling May, after selling CBT and showing no interest in keeping Dobson suggests either massive rebuild coming, or following the pattern of all other managers / owners over the last couple of decades. Too early to tell. I hope the former.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 13, 2024 21:34:54 GMT
It’s been a very interesting read tonight watching the debate between the posters saying it is Charlton Armageddon time and those saying it is good business, we will bring in better and in NJ we trust…… I think we have to bear in mind Alfie was the only shining light for our fan base last season and his goals kept us up as we were so piss poor for the majority of it………but was he as good or as valuable to us as Yann was when was forced out of the club? As with the Dobson senario the time for us to judge whether this is the right or wrong decision will be based on who we bring in to replace him……I doubt very much that NJ would be too concerned about fan unrest about this decision, I think he is pretty single minded and focused on us bringing in players who he thinks would be good enough to play in the championship and I not sure Alfie really fits into this remit…..….Time will tell if this is the correct call by NJ or not as I think he is final decision maker….. What I have noticed tonight is the vast amount of new poster signings made by this forum tonight which would put Steve Evan’s at Rotherham to shame….🤣🤣A big welcome to all new on here…. I echo that. Welcome to everyone who has joined us over the last 24-48 hours. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jun 13, 2024 21:39:10 GMT
We sold CBT when we were in a relegation battle. He was 2nd top scorer (I believe) and had the most assists at the time, and there was no effort to replace him. Selling May, after selling CBT and showing no interest in keeping Dobson suggests either massive rebuild coming, or following the pattern of all other managers / owners over the last couple of decades. Too early to tell. I hope the former. I would favour the former as well mate, I think we will see a vastly different much improved Charlton team stepping out on August 10th 👍 |
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Post by brad on Jun 13, 2024 21:59:25 GMT
You keep believing that mate. A really good call by you Brad with regards to both the Dobson and May scenarios……but in future mate could you please try and post some positive news about our club when you hear it……🤣🤣 Agreed mate. As said before don't get any pleasure from it but don't trust the whole Rodwell and Scott gang and a job for the boys lot. How they treated Dobson was a disgrace. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 13, 2024 22:01:46 GMT
A really good call by you Brad with regards to both the Dobson and May scenarios……but in future mate could you please try and post some positive news about our club when you hear it……🤣🤣 Agreed mate. As said before don't get any pleasure from it but don't trust the whole Rodwell and Scott gang and a job for the boys lot. How they treated Dobson was a disgrace. Don't worry. If Alfie goes and they don't replace him, what support they have will dwindle to nothing overnight. Get this window wrong after selling our top scorer and they'll get chased out of town. |
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Jun 14, 2024 0:36:28 GMT
If Alfie's replacement isn't at least one of Devante Cole, Macaulay Langstaff, Conor Chaplin, Davis Keillor-Dunn or Lyle Taylor then I'm rioting, quite frankly. (I might just riot anyway, to be fair.)
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Post by watameires on Jun 14, 2024 3:15:44 GMT
Taylor? 😳🤮
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Post by scabbyhorse on Jun 14, 2024 3:37:27 GMT
Agreed mate. As said before don't get any pleasure from it but don't trust the whole Rodwell and Scott gang and a job for the boys lot. How they treated Dobson was a disgrace. Don't worry. If Alfie goes and they don't replace him, what support they have will dwindle to nothing overnight. Get this window wrong after selling our top scorer and they'll get chased out of town. And this is why I'm not overly concerned at present. If they sell May, Jones must be super confident he has a replacement for him who he thinks is not only equal to May in the goal scoring stakes but can benifit the whole team in his all round play. |
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Post by bexleyboy on Jun 14, 2024 5:47:39 GMT
We sold CBT when we were in a relegation battle. He was 2nd top scorer (I believe) and had the most assists at the time, and there was no effort to replace him. Selling May, after selling CBT and showing no interest in keeping Dobson suggests either massive rebuild coming, or following the pattern of all other managers / owners over the last couple of decades. Too early to tell. I hope the former. CBT refused to play and asked to north back up north Dobson was offered new contracts which he turned down |
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Post by brad on Jun 14, 2024 6:03:22 GMT
Agreed mate. As said before don't get any pleasure from it but don't trust the whole Rodwell and Scott gang and a job for the boys lot. How they treated Dobson was a disgrace. Don't worry. If Alfie goes and they don't replace him, what support they have will dwindle to nothing overnight. Get this window wrong after selling our top scorer and they'll get chased out of town. Yeah that's true your completely right there Reams. |
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Post by brad on Jun 14, 2024 6:07:09 GMT
We sold CBT when we were in a relegation battle. He was 2nd top scorer (I believe) and had the most assists at the time, and there was no effort to replace him. Selling May, after selling CBT and showing no interest in keeping Dobson suggests either massive rebuild coming, or following the pattern of all other managers / owners over the last couple of decades. Too early to tell. I hope the former. CBT refused to play and asked to north back up north Dobson was offered new contracts which he turned down Trust me they done nothing right by Dobson. Contract offers was 1 then 2 years and money was still less then even what Mcgrandles and others was but overhaul was just deal with terrible and Scott made it personal |
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Post by sevenoaks on Jun 14, 2024 7:11:14 GMT
CBT refused to play and asked to north back up north Dobson was offered new contracts which he turned down Trust me they done nothing right by Dobson. Contract offers was 1 then 2 years and money was still less then even what Mcgrandles and others was but overhaul was just deal with terrible and Scott made it personal I strongly believe that version. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 14, 2024 7:39:41 GMT
We sold CBT when we were in a relegation battle. He was 2nd top scorer (I believe) and had the most assists at the time, and there was no effort to replace him. Selling May, after selling CBT and showing no interest in keeping Dobson suggests either massive rebuild coming, or following the pattern of all other managers / owners over the last couple of decades. Too early to tell. I hope the former. CBT refused to play and asked to north back up north Dobson was offered new contracts which he turned down Yes he did and rightly so. Stop pretending you know things when you don't. Alfie rented his house, doesn't own it as you keep bullshitting about. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 14, 2024 8:03:57 GMT
We seem to be asking 1.5m for May which is surely over ambitious.
I suspect that's because if a club knocks us down to a third off that they'll think they'd have done well.
Age isn't on his side but I'm sure anyone who wants Colby Bishop or Dion Charles would have to pay a bit more than that so being top scorer has definitely but a few extra noughts on Alfies asking price.
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Post by valleyfaithful on Jun 14, 2024 8:11:22 GMT
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Post by madz on Jun 14, 2024 8:33:07 GMT
I know selling May won't mean "thats it we won't bring anyone in, we're doomed!!", but I still maintain that losing May will be a risk. That "risk" will offset massively on who we bring in to replace him and how we play. If May doesn't suit that style then you can see the reasoning, however should we sell early and then not replace him then we have lost a lot of goals in the already pretty thin squad.
Yes May might not be Championship level, but neither are we, far from it. League One is much more physical and less flair than Championship. I am not for one second saying May is physical, what I am saying is preparing a team for the Championship when you are not there yet can be pretty pointless as teams just kick lumps out of you. We need to get out of this league first. It has been the case before where teams go up with a top striker for that level and as soon as they are up they sell their striker because they know they are not up to that level. Lets get to the next level first.
I also like the idea of having striker options regardless of it not being the main style we play, so you can mix things up when things are not working. The question might be does Alfie like the idea of being a backup option, if indeed that is the case.
I'm not going to be hitting the panic button straight away if this sale does happen. But I am allowed to still see this as a risk. Obviously I hope any replacement scores goals for us or if a pair of strikers they share the goals between them.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 14, 2024 8:34:13 GMT
I have changed the thread title as we have rejected their bid and they have yet to increase it.
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Post by 1978sussex on Jun 14, 2024 9:07:04 GMT
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Post by kings hill addick on Jun 14, 2024 9:30:07 GMT
If we can get anywhere near £1m for May then that makes very good business sense.
However, if we do sell him and no, obvious, replacement comes in it will affect the floating season ticket fans. If we raise £1m and have only spent half of that, and have signed frees, again, it will make it harder to convince those, that are waiting to see what the squad looks like, to commit.
If May goes next week it’ll look like one step forward and two steps back. We will also be quoted higher prices for anyone we approach to sign - something that tends to lead to signings being pushed back to the end of the transfer window.
Hopefully the replacement(s) have already been identified and discussions are at an advanced stage.
Time will tell, obviously.
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Post by aaronaldo on Jun 14, 2024 9:32:18 GMT
I have changed the thread title as we have rejected their bid and they have yet to increase it. Sounds like an 'ITK' on Huddersfields forum is saying they've already increased the bid. This one won't be going away. If May is keen, then it's about who we get to replace him now imo. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 14, 2024 9:32:26 GMT
Somebody close to the Huddersfield camp reckons we rejected an 800k bid and they are preparing another to try ans seal the deal.
I believe Alfie has a year left on his contract. He's 32. Turning down in excess of 1m for him would be nuts to most Charlton fans but not others.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 14, 2024 9:34:42 GMT
If we can get anywhere near £1m for May then that makes very good business sense. However, if we do sell him and no, obvious, replacement comes in it will affect the floating season ticket fans. If we raise £1m and have only spent half of that, and have signed frees, again, it will make it harder to convince those, that are waiting to see what the squad looks like, to commit. If May goes next week it’ll look like one step forward and two steps back. We will also be quoted higher prices for anyone we approach to sign - something that tends to lead to signings being pushed back to the end of the transfer window. Hopefully the replacement(s) have already been identified and discussions are at an advanced stage. Time will tell, obviously. It's why we have put a price tag of 1.5m on him. We won't get that put surely anything above £1m is having somebody's pants down! |
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