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Post by bexleyboy on Jun 28, 2024 9:26:47 GMT
Alfie May is clearly available for sale at the right price. Surely, nobody doubts that now? I think we can go further though and say that the club has a predisposition to sell him. As I said earlier in this thread, if we have confidence in the club’s owners and its management this means it will now be bad news if May doesn’t move on because it means that somewhere along the line our plans aren’t quite working out as intended. Every player at every club has a selling price … whether anyone meets your valuation of that player is the question .. May training with the squad everything else at the moment is hot air until it’s announced by the club |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2024 9:28:22 GMT
Alfie May is clearly available for sale at the right price. Surely, nobody doubts that now? I think we can go further though and say that the club has a predisposition to sell him. As I said earlier in this thread, if we have confidence in the club’s owners and its management this means it will now be bad news if May doesn’t move on because it means that somewhere along the line our plans aren’t quite working out as intended. I think most players are available for sale at the right price. The difference with us now is that we don’t have to give him away. We can hold out for the right price. I am still getting over us giving away Paul Walsh and Paul Elliott all those years ago. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Jun 28, 2024 9:34:06 GMT
I’ve resigned myself to him going. As others have said, we just need to get the right price and more importantly the right replacements!
I was speaking to a Huddersfield fan at work this week and he wasn’t sure they got as much from the Rudoni deal as some are saying. Especially not upfront
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Post by Mundell on Jun 28, 2024 9:37:21 GMT
bexleyboy , @dickplumb I agree entirely that every player has his price. However, I think there’s more going on here than another club coming in with an offer which “if high enough we simply can’t refuse”. My sense is that we have a clear predisposition to sell May because (and whether we see it this way or not) Nathan Jones would prefer a different type of striker given the choice. We are not on the horns of a dilemma deciding whether to sell a player who is seen as an important part of the manager’s plans. We want to sell him.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 28, 2024 10:55:37 GMT
bexleyboy , @dickplumb I agree entirely that every player has his price. However, I think there’s more going on here than another club coming in with an offer which “if high enough we simply can’t refuse”. My sense is that we have a clear predisposition to sell May because (and whether we see it this way or not) Nathan Jones would prefer a different type of striker given the choice. We are not on the horns of a dilemma deciding whether to sell a player who is seen as an important part of the manager’s plans. We want to sell him. Totally agree. Stands out like a sore thumb. |
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Post by roburwash on Jun 28, 2024 11:19:51 GMT
bexleyboy , @dickplumb I agree entirely that every player has his price. However, I think there’s more going on here than another club coming in with an offer which “if high enough we simply can’t refuse”. My sense is that we have a clear predisposition to sell May because (and whether we see it this way or not) Nathan Jones would prefer a different type of striker given the choice. We are not on the horns of a dilemma deciding whether to sell a player who is seen as an important part of the manager’s plans. We want to sell him. In which case, if May goes, Jones had better come up with the goods this season with entertaining and successful football. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2024 11:38:54 GMT
bexleyboy , @dickplumb I agree entirely that every player has his price. However, I think there’s more going on here than another club coming in with an offer which “if high enough we simply can’t refuse”. My sense is that we have a clear predisposition to sell May because (and whether we see it this way or not) Nathan Jones would prefer a different type of striker given the choice. We are not on the horns of a dilemma deciding whether to sell a player who is seen as an important part of the manager’s plans. We want to sell him. In which case, if May goes, Jones had better come up with the goods this season with entertaining and successful football. I would just settle for successful, This is a make or break season for Jones. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 28, 2024 11:41:48 GMT
In which case, if May goes, Jones had better come up with the goods this season with entertaining and successful football. I would just settle for successful, This is a make or break season for Jones. Ridiculous comment. He's signed a long term contract and this is his first full season with what will be his own squad. |
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Post by sevenoaks on Jun 28, 2024 11:59:29 GMT
I would just settle for successful, This is a make or break season for Jones. Ridiculous comment. He's signed a long term contract and this is his first full season with what will be his own squad. Rome wasn't built in a day... |
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Post by grapevine49 on Jun 28, 2024 12:02:38 GMT
On what basis do you employ someone on a 4yr contract with a make or break season after 6 months in the building.
I appreciate modern day contracts impose different termination clauses but they will be bedrocked in the contract length.
At this stage Mr Jones is most palpably not in the frame. There are people who are majorly accountable to Mr Jones in delivering to the terms, conditions, undertakings and assurances provided in securing his signature to that contract.
I am pretty sure right now Mr Jones, while being diplomatic, is most certainly focused on Messrs Methven, Rodwell and Scott as to just quite why the majority of his recruitment has indeed not yet been completed in line with his target.
The evidence to this point is Mr Jones, as per the Executive comments last night, has delivered an unprecedented level of commitment to this task.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2024 12:14:28 GMT
I would just settle for successful, This is a make or break season for Jones. Ridiculous comment. He's signed a long term contract and this is his first full season with what will be his own squad. Not a ridiculous comment at all. Jones is, by his own admission, in charge of who he wants and who he doesn’t want. It is his rodeo. If we have a season like last year he will be accountable. No one else, we can’t blame Scott anymore. The pressure will fall on Jones. I don’t think anything I have posted is ridiculous. |
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Post by yorkshireaddick on Jun 28, 2024 12:20:36 GMT
Ridiculous comment. He's signed a long term contract and this is his first full season with what will be his own squad. Not a ridiculous comment at all. Jones is, by his own admission, in charge of who he wants and who he doesn’t want. It is his rodeo. If we have a season like last year he will be accountable. No one else, we can’t blame Scott anymore. The pressure will fall on Jones. I don’t think anything I have posted is ridiculous. I'm pretty sure he doesn't really want half of this squad. Which will take more than one season to sort out Dick. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 28, 2024 12:26:29 GMT
On what basis do you employ someone on a 4yr contract with a make or break season after 6 months in the building. I appreciate modern day contracts impose different termination clauses but they will be bedrocked in the contract length. At this stage Mr Jones is most palpably not the in the frame. There are people who are majorly accountable to Mr Jones in delivering to the terms, conditions, undertakings and assurances provided in securing his signature to that contract. I am pretty sure right now Mr Jones, while being diplomatic, is most certainly focused on Messrs Methven, Rodwell and Scott as to just quite why the majority of his recruitment has indeed not yet been completed in line with his target. The evidence to this point is Mr Jones, as per the Executive comments last night, has delivered an unprecedented level of commitment to this task. 100% this. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2024 12:33:01 GMT
Not a ridiculous comment at all. Jones is, by his own admission, in charge of who he wants and who he doesn’t want. It is his rodeo. If we have a season like last year he will be accountable. No one else, we can’t blame Scott anymore. The pressure will fall on Jones. I don’t think anything I have posted is ridiculous. I'm pretty sure he doesn't really want half of this squad. Which will take more than one season to sort out Dick. Football fans are notoriously fickle. Just look at it on here after a defeat. I agree that he will need more than one Season. But will the Charlton supporters have that much patience? After the last few seasons people have grown increasingly pissed off. The fans have not come back in large numbers. Hence why we have only sold 7200 Season tickets. I think success on the pitch will bring about that increase. It is early days re the transfer window, but we have a long way to go if we want to be a promotion chasing team. I like Nathan Jones and I really hope he turns us around, but I am still sceptical. |
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Post by yorkshireaddick on Jun 28, 2024 12:38:38 GMT
I'm pretty sure he doesn't really want half of this squad. Which will take more than one season to sort out Dick. Football fans are notoriously fickle. Just look at it on here after a defeat. I agree that he will need more than one Season. But will the Charlton supporters have that much patience? After the last few seasons people have grown increasingly pissed off. The fans have not come back in large numbers. Hence why we have only sold 7200 Season tickets. I think success on the pitch will bring about that increase. It is early days re the transfer window, but we have a long way to go if we want to be a promotion chasing team. I like Nathan Jones and I really hope he turns us around, but I am still sceptical. He will definitely need to improve on last season. That is for sure. We are not going to be his finished article though I don't think. |
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Post by seriouslyred on Jun 28, 2024 17:24:18 GMT
On what basis do you employ someone on a 4yr contract with a make or break season after 6 months in the building. I appreciate modern day contracts impose different termination clauses but they will be bedrocked in the contract length. At this stage Mr Jones is most palpably not in the frame. There are people who are majorly accountable to Mr Jones in delivering to the terms, conditions, undertakings and assurances provided in securing his signature to that contract. I am pretty sure right now Mr Jones, while being diplomatic, is most certainly focused on Messrs Methven, Rodwell and Scott as to just quite why the majority of his recruitment has indeed not yet been completed in line with his target. The evidence to this point is Mr Jones, as per the Executive comments last night, has delivered an unprecedented level of commitment to this task. From what we've seen, why go that strong before end June and a few weeks before SE7 have been running the club for a year. - we've seen a clear out - we've seen the recruitment of another reserve keeper - but not a first choice - there are rumours about May - and Leaburn announced as on track - plus recruiting a fairly tasty attacking midfielder who participated in Luton's promotions On the other hand, we still require a quality keeper, another decent striker and more talent in midfield, so JFDI!!! I'm all for waiting to watch a few games given that we already have eight Academy players and eight midling players on the books. This includes the additions of Mannion and Edwards. But we'd all love to see those final, quality recruits land in time for the start of the season. Do we think that CAFC football management is not yet firing on all cylinders, or should we be patient given progress to date and statements of intent? Looked at another way, we're talking about bringing in four quality players on an average £400K pa. So £1.5M pa or £4.5M over three year contracts. We need to get this right as well as getting this done. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2024 9:24:43 GMT
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Post by watameires on Jun 29, 2024 10:33:08 GMT
Nothing particularly new in that but nothing to argue against either
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Post by Mundell on Jun 29, 2024 10:52:29 GMT
Its what's called availability bias. If Alfie May wasn't already a Charlton player we'd all be completely relaxed about the club pursuing targets who are expected to be better suited to the way Jones appears to want to play. Indeed, in these circumstances, we'd all be scratching our heads if Jones signed him. Jones will be accountable for the outcome whether May stays or goes and in my view he should be applauded for having the courage of his convictions and for a willingness to make what is clearly an unpopular decision. Selling May isn't a risk provided we sign a player that fits the profile Jones is looking for. The key question is obviously whether we can land that signing(s). |
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Post by valley on Jun 29, 2024 10:53:44 GMT
All this May talk still could be a charlton player.
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Post by tonyshootersbull on Jun 29, 2024 11:00:44 GMT
I hope so.
Want him to sta
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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 29, 2024 11:20:33 GMT
All this May talk still could be a charlton player. Wrong. His family have moved back up North. He will be joining them. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 29, 2024 11:27:29 GMT
I have never known fans who get so worked up and so opinionated over a player leaving the club, like Charlton fans do. It's Alfie May not Lamine Yamal! He's not leaving the Country, he's going to Huddersfiled so easily accessible for anyone who can't get over the fact that he is leaving us. Yorkshire is twice the place London is so they can go and carrying on cheering him on there and make a weekend of it. What's not to like? All this outpouring of man love is a bit cringe to be honest. At least wait to see what our new striker4s come in and do. I don't ever recall this many tears when Mendonca, Hunt and Kermorgant left and Alfie May as good as he is, is not in the same ball park as they were. PS This isn't aimed at you dickplumb. |
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Post by manikin on Jun 29, 2024 11:46:13 GMT
I have never known fans who get so worked up and so opinionated over a player leaving the club, like Charlton fans do. It's Alfie May not Lamine Yamal! He's not leaving the Country, he's going to Huddersfiled so easily accessible for anyone who can't get over the fact that he is leaving us. Yorkshire is twice the place London is so they can go and carrying on cheering him on there and make a weekend of it. What's not to like? All this outpouring of man love is a bit cringe to be honest. At least wait to see what our new striker4s come in and do. I don't ever recall this many tears when Mendonca, Hunt and Kermorgant left and Alfie May as good as he is, is not in the same ball park as they were. PS This isn't aimed at you dickplumb. Totally agree, in fact it's so far over the top it's bloody boring. Why can't everyone just wait for the outcome. |
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Post by bexleyboy on Jun 29, 2024 12:10:29 GMT
Birmingham have bid accepted for May ..
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Post by addickryan on Jun 29, 2024 12:13:49 GMT
The family moving to Yorkshire narrative has gone out the window then. Clearly other clubs with higher ambitions than us who are gonna be made stronger while we are made weaker. Good luck finding 27 goals
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Post by 1978sussex on Jun 29, 2024 12:14:15 GMT
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Post by aaronaldo on Jun 29, 2024 12:22:27 GMT
Oh nice, hopefully this has bumped up the price a little!
Edit: sounds like the same deal ☹️
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Post by 1978sussex on Jun 29, 2024 12:27:35 GMT
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Post by 1978sussex on Jun 29, 2024 12:28:49 GMT
Huddesfield offer 750,000 birmingham offer 755.000
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