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Post by scabbyhorse on Apr 24, 2024 16:48:37 GMT
I think that one player Nathan will target will be his former captain at Luton Sonny Bradley. We have enough CB?. No offence but have you actually watched our CB’s this season? |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Apr 24, 2024 16:50:31 GMT
I think that one player Nathan will target will be his former captain at Luton Sonny Bradley. We have enough CB?. Who, REG and Gillesphey?….major overhaul required…..no leader/s at the back, I’ve been banging on about this for the whole season, result 65 goals against us……..Think NJ will bring in a CB captain plus one other CB …Bradley is prime example of what we require |
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Post by Mundell on Apr 24, 2024 17:22:09 GMT
Can we steal Connor Chaplin off them then…..….he would be perfect for our new number 10……🤣🤣 Would imagine targets are already being lined up and agents spoken to……I think this summer will differ from previous recruitment processes…….An Ipswich promotion budget to go with Pompey’s strategy of getting the squad together quickly will be NJ’s aim…..and no dodgy Man City loan players……🤣…….in fact if they ain’t in the Rak Saki quality bracket of loans I don’t see many loans coming in at all…..NJ wants to coach his own players and not other clubs unless they will significantly improve us…..The likes of Chen Campbell etc……I can’t see happening this summer Its going to be an interesting June/ July….. I don't think we can ignore the potential of the loan market. However, I do think we need to be more picky with who we bring in. Portsmouth built on the squad they finished the previous season with and, amongst other signings, augmented that squad with four loan players, three from Premier League clubs and one from Norwich City, with the latter by far the most successful. Only in exceptional circumstances is it possible to know in advance that loan players are going to be a big success though. You don’t know if you’ve got a Gallagher or a Rak Saki, for example, until they’ve played half a dozen games. While it’s obvious from the league table which clubs have been successful, it’s often less obvious why. Arguably, the key to Portsmouth finally converting their potential into promotion to the Championship was the inspired, but entirely left field decision to appoint John Mousinho as Manager. He had no CV to speak of but apparently Portsmouth’s CEO and Sporting Director were completely blown away when they interviewed him. A brave decision that has really paid dividends. |
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Post by sollied on Apr 24, 2024 18:45:50 GMT
I understand that Jones will have a cushty budget in the summer and when I ask what kind of path we are going to go down to enable us to launch a serious bid next season, the Ipswich model keeps being referred to. Out of interest what do you think they mean by the Ipswich model? I assume it’s their version of buying the league, though Ipswich didn’t spend as much on fees as people assume - they offered high wages though. |
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Post by Mundell on Apr 24, 2024 19:08:12 GMT
I understand that Jones will have a cushty budget in the summer and when I ask what kind of path we are going to go down to enable us to launch a serious bid next season, the Ipswich model keeps being referred to. Out of interest what do you think they mean by the Ipswich model? I assume it’s their version of buying the league, though Ipswich didn’t spend as much on fees as people assume - they offered high wages though. Arguably, and not unlike Portsmouth this season, a critically important factor in Ipswich Town’s success was the decision to appoint a Head Coach with no prior experience who has turned out to be an absolutely inspired choice. And just like John Mousinho, Kieran McKenna was appointed mid way through the season prior to the one in which Ipswich won promotion. Hopefully, Nathan Jones will prove be our equivalent. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Apr 25, 2024 13:47:43 GMT
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Post by bexleyboy on Apr 25, 2024 16:04:10 GMT
Doubt the club have held any talks with anyone at the moment … |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Apr 25, 2024 16:15:42 GMT
Doubt the club have held any talks with anyone at the moment … I am hoping the only talks we have with our soon to be out of contract players is to say thank you and good bye👍 There are a few in contract players that I would like us to say the same thing to as well 😀 |
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Post by revilo on Apr 25, 2024 16:41:42 GMT
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Post by Bexleyranger on Apr 25, 2024 19:10:55 GMT
Some of the players I like us to go for:
Sam Sheering CB - Free Agent
Ruel Sortiou ST - Free Agent
Lasse Sorensen RWB - Free Agent
Davis Keller Dunne - CAM - Fee
Ethan Chislett - CAM - Fee
Joe Taylor - ST - Loan
Danny Mandriou - CM - Free Agent
Matt Pollock - CB - Fee
Few of these please!
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Post by aucklandaddick on Apr 25, 2024 20:37:03 GMT
Some of the players I like us to go for: Sam Sheering CB - Free Agent Ruel Sortiou ST - Free Agent Lasse Sorensen RWB - Free Agent Davis Keller Dunne - CAM - Fee Ethan Chislett - CAM - Fee Joe Taylor - ST - Loan Danny Mandriou - CM - Free Agent Matt Pollock - CB - Fee Few of these please! Some really good names in there..👍 Always wanted Sorensen especially after the way he performed against us up there earlier in the season, Pollock is a very good option as well |
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Post by reamsofverse on Apr 25, 2024 21:37:48 GMT
Some of the players I like us to go for: Sam Sheering CB - Free Agent Ruel Sortiou ST - Free Agent Lasse Sorensen RWB - Free Agent Davis Keller Dunne - CAM - Fee Ethan Chislett - CAM - Fee Joe Taylor - ST - Loan Danny Mandriou - CM - Free Agent Matt Pollock - CB - Fee Few of these please! keillor-Dunn and Joe Taylor are on my list too as is Sorensen. I would love us to consider Dan Kemp too. |
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Post by valleysun on Apr 25, 2024 22:02:47 GMT
Some of the players I like us to go for: Sam Sheering CB - Free Agent Ruel Sortiou ST - Free Agent Lasse Sorensen RWB - Free Agent Davis Keller Dunne - CAM - Fee Ethan Chislett - CAM - Fee Joe Taylor - ST - Loan Danny Mandriou - CM - Free Agent Matt Pollock - CB - Fee Few of these please! keillor-Dunn and Joe Taylor are on my list too as is Sorensen. I would love us to consider Dan Kemp too. if Luton stay up it wouldn’t surprise me to see joe Taylor woth nj Luton connections |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Apr 26, 2024 7:04:26 GMT
keillor-Dunn and Joe Taylor are on my list too as is Sorensen. I would love us to consider Dan Kemp too. if Luton stay up it wouldn’t surprise me to see joe Taylor woth nj Luton connections How about Gassan Adhadme on loan from Ipswich, was a handful against us at the Valley, 13 goals in 38 this season for a very bang average Cambridge side Would love to prise Brannigan away from Oxford, probably up there as the best in the division, doubt we could afford him though |
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Post by revilo on Apr 26, 2024 8:16:02 GMT
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Post by aucklandaddick on Apr 26, 2024 8:24:51 GMT
Going to play abroad apparently……. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Apr 26, 2024 8:44:24 GMT
Going to play abroad apparently……. Hope so. Hard pass for me. |
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Post by Bexleyranger on Apr 26, 2024 10:38:21 GMT
Some of the players I like us to go for: Sam Sheering CB - Free Agent Ruel Sortiou ST - Free Agent Lasse Sorensen RWB - Free Agent Davis Keller Dunne - CAM - Fee Ethan Chislett - CAM - Fee Joe Taylor - ST - Loan Danny Mandriou - CM - Free Agent Matt Pollock - CB - Fee Few of these please! keillor-Dunn and Joe Taylor are on my list too as is Sorensen. I would love us to consider Dan Kemp too. Kemp is a local boy as well! Every chance. Have a feeling Soressen won’t be on top of our list because of Watson and Ramsay:/ |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Apr 26, 2024 10:42:10 GMT
keillor-Dunn and Joe Taylor are on my list too as is Sorensen. I would love us to consider Dan Kemp too. Kemp is a local boy as well! Every chance. Have a feeling Soressen won’t be on top of our list because of Watson and Ramsay:/ Not sure that NJ is entirely convinced by Watson……. Soressen will have many suitors after his signature being a free……Would be great if we had him and Ramsay down that right hand side |
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Apr 26, 2024 12:44:59 GMT
I know everyone's hoping our business will be done early, but I'm expecting next to nothing to happen in May and not just because players are on holiday.
It's likely the majority of our signings will be out of contract players from the EFL. Remember we can't legally approach them until June 1st (ie 30 days before the day, 30th June, when their contract officially ends).
People historically think deadline day is the most important date of the transfer window. I think the first couple of days of June will be for us this year. That's when we find out how many of our targets are generally interested or not in Charlton as an option. I suspect we'll also leave decisions on offering contracts to one or two of our own OOC players who might merit a squad place until we sound out the market.
Also remember that players aged under 24 aren't free if their parent club offers them a contract/extension. Even if the player says no to that offer, their club will be due compensation - we either agree a fee or go to arbitration.
So, to use examples of some of the players I hope we're looking at, the likes of 21-year-old Lewis Bate might end up costing money to sign depending on if his club Leeds make him an offer, whilst 25-year-old Dan Kemp would be a freebie. Sam Sherring turns 24 in May so as I understand it he'd be a freebie too. Them three plus (also over 24) Herbie Kane and Christian Walton would be my first choice picks of the out of contract brigade.
PS if we get Dan Kemp I'd go for Jake Young (even though he'll cost a fee) too. The duo played 23 League Two games together for Swindon this season (ie a half-season). In these Young got 14 goals and 4 assists (all for Kemp). Kemp got 14 goals and 8 assists (4 for Young). 28 goals & 12 assists (8 mutual) in half a season is crazy good for a striker/AM pairing. The fact that the stats of both have declined hugely since being recalled to MK and Bradford just emphasises how well they link up together.
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Apr 26, 2024 12:51:29 GMT
Kemp is a local boy as well! Every chance. Have a feeling Soressen won’t be on top of our list because of Watson and Ramsay:/ Not sure that NJ is entirely convinced by Watson……. Soressen will have many suitors after his signature being a free……Would be great if we had him and Ramsay down that right hand side I'm not expecting us to sign any wing backs as I think that's the one position where we're covered (including REG and Asiimwe we have a squad depth of four at RWB). Should NJ for some strange reason think otherwise, Jordan Williams at Barnsley might be another option. He's their captain, out of contract in the summer, age 24 (so no compensation fee required). Mixed reports at centre back this season, but seems to have done much better since switching to RWB. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Apr 26, 2024 13:02:40 GMT
I know everyone's hoping our business will be done early, but I'm expecting next to nothing to happen in May and not just because players are on holiday. It's likely the majority of our signings will be out of contract players from the EFL. Remember we can't legally approach them until June 1st (ie 30 days before the day, 30th June, when their contract officially ends). People historically think deadline day is the most important date of the transfer window. I think the first couple of days of June will be for us this year. That's when we find out how many of our targets are generally interested or not in Charlton as an option. I suspect we'll also leave decisions on offering contracts to one or two of our own OOC players who might merit a squad place until we sound out the market. Also remember that players aged under 24 aren't free if their parent club offers them a contract/extension. Even if the player says no to that offer, their club will be due compensation - we either agree a fee or go to arbitration. So, to use examples of some of the players I hope we're looking at, the likes of 21-year-old Lewis Bate might end up costing money to sign depending on if his club Leeds make him an offer, whilst 25-year-old Dan Kemp would be a freebie. Sam Sherring turns 24 in May so as I understand it he'd be a freebie too. Them three plus (also over 24) Herbie Kane and Christian Walton would be my first choice picks of the out of contract brigade. PS if we get Dan Kemp I'd go for Jake Young (even though he'll cost a fee) too. The duo played 23 League Two games together for Swindon this season (ie a half-season). In these Young got 14 goals and 4 assists (all for Kemp). Kemp got 14 goals and 8 assists (4 for Young). 28 goals & 12 assists (8 mutual) in half a season is crazy good for a striker/AM pairing. The fact that the stats of both have declined hugely since being recalled to MK and Bradford just emphasises how well they link up together. NJ was keen to get them in before the end of June. 27th of June I think? When the players come in for Pre-season? May will likely only be rumours. Unless we are throwing about some fee's on players. Even those might take some time to agree as it may depend on who is available on a free etc. Dan Kemp does seem like a no brainer to me. |
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Apr 26, 2024 13:12:07 GMT
Our June free agent negotiations will be the measure of GFP's investment/ambition for me.
For each of the eleven spaces in a starting line-up I'd theoretically say there are a maximum of eight EFL free agents of the quality we need that might join us. 4-5 from L1 clubs, plus 1-2 from L2 and a couple (prepared to drop to L1) in the Championship.
So for the five or six (however many it is) places in the starting 11 we're seeking someone new for, there are (a guesstimated) 6-8 suitable free agents available.
But how many other teams are after them? Presumably a big chunk of those in L1 with promotion ambitions next season, plus a bunch of lower half Champ teams and a couple of ambitious L2ers. That's before even bringing Scottish or European teams into the equation (although you'd assume many of them used the January pre-contract option). So maybe 15+ teams fighting over 6-8 free agents.
So, like I say, how many starting 11 players we source from the free agent market (especially in June, when NJ wants most of our business done) is the biggest thing to judge GFP on. Even if some of the players turn out to be pants, the ambition is what I'm looking for. Beating a Championship side to the signing of Coventry is an example of that. We need several more events like that this summer imho.
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Post by reamsofverse on Apr 26, 2024 17:34:39 GMT
We are talking to three players already.
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Post by LoyalAddick on Apr 26, 2024 17:37:46 GMT
We are talking to three players already. Any idea who reams? |
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Post by seriouslyred on Apr 26, 2024 21:37:17 GMT
Our June free agent negotiations will be the measure of GFP's investment/ambition for me. For each of the eleven spaces in a starting line-up I'd theoretically say there are a maximum of eight EFL free agents of the quality we need that might join us. 4-5 from L1 clubs, plus 1-2 from L2 and a couple (prepared to drop to L1) in the Championship. So for the five or six (however many it is) places in the starting 11 we're seeking someone new for, there are (a guesstimated) 6-8 suitable free agents available. But how many other teams are after them? Presumably a big chunk of those in L1 with promotion ambitions next season, plus a bunch of lower half Champ teams and a couple of ambitious L2ers. That's before even bringing Scottish or European teams into the equation (although you'd assume many of them used the January pre-contract option). So maybe 15+ teams fighting over 6-8 free agents. So, like I say, how many starting 11 players we source from the free agent market (especially in June, when NJ wants most of our business done) is the biggest thing to judge GFP on. Even if some of the players turn out to be pants, the ambition is what I'm looking for. Beating a Championship side to the signing of Coventry is an example of that. We need several more events like that this summer imho. Great summary. I'd add that we will again have a top six budget, and that we'll be competing with the following for available talent: Wrexham Three clubs relegated from the Championship Three losing play-off clubs We can't compete with Championship clubs for they will be paying double what we offer. And it's not just Nathan Jones. The owners / investors didn't buy CAFC to maintain a mid-table managed decline. And the SMT, Performance Director, Technical Director and Assistant Manager are all far more experienced than those running the club 12 months ago. This is GFP/SE7's chance to alter CAFC's trajectory before the first anniversary of their takeover. Whatever ones views on Dobson this is a chance to rebuild the spine of the first XI. And in so doing, the executives and management can vastly improve our sides creativity. |
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Post by 1978sussex on Apr 27, 2024 9:18:13 GMT
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Post by leedsaddick on Apr 27, 2024 13:38:20 GMT
We are talking to three players already. Any idea who reams? Perhaps the question is, are these players better than what we’ve got and would make a difference |
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Post by valleyfaithful on Apr 27, 2024 13:42:30 GMT
Brownie and Curbs speculating on next seasons business and whether Alfie coming off last few games means anything for next season - whether Nathan maybe wants something different next season. I think you have to be mad to sell a golden boot winner but I’m willing to back Nathan fully backed on what I’ve seen from him compared to Appleton with mostly the same squad.
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Post by potato on Apr 27, 2024 14:32:39 GMT
Brownie and Curbs speculating on next seasons business and whether Alfie coming off last few games means anything for next season - whether Nathan maybe wants something different next season. I think you have to be mad to sell a golden boot winner but I’m willing to back Nathan fully backed on what I’ve seen from him compared to Appleton with mostly the same squad. Nathan doesn't fancy him. He hasn't since he arrived. He benched him almost immediately when he got here, and then eventually started playing him, but subbed him in pretty much every game, sometimes when we were needing a goal. I don't know if he is worth much on the transfer market being 30, but having the golden boot might up his value a little, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him sold and the funds used to bring in more players. It's a risky strategy, and personally I would prefer us to do what Curbs did with Bent, which was basically build a squad around him and find players that could just keep feeding him. I'm sure Alfie would thrive under those conditions, but I'm not sure it's the Nathan Jones way. |
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