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Post by valleyfaithful on Aug 9, 2024 12:45:49 GMT
Now Tyreece has bulked out and showing development signs, a front 3 of TC - Ahadme - Dixon could be very exciting if we’re chasing a goal and deviate away from 352. Within a 3-5-2 I'm wondering whether TC and Dixon up front (one drifting wide as and when) with Godden playing as a 10 (deep lying striker version) might be a real nightmare for opposition defenders. Another good shout, one thing it certainly gives us is options. |
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Post by df3 on Aug 9, 2024 13:04:30 GMT
Has there been any update on Kahiem Dixon ? I posted the link to the FA work permit rulebook and explained the situation re Dixon when we initially signed him a couple of weeks ago. For anyone who missed it, Dixon doesn't qualify for a work permit (based on the various complicated tables in the rulebook he scores 2 points and you need a minimum of 15 for an automatic work permit). That means when it's turned down, we have to use one of our two ESC (exemption) slots to apply for a GBE (governing body exemption). This means we submit loads of documents about him, international (Copa America etc) appearance data, testimonials from coaches in Jamaica about his talent, etc. The FA then convene an independent panel to consider the application. The panel meets to discuss and sends its conclusion (yay or nay) to the FA, who then decide whether to go by the panel's recommendation or not. The rulebook states that playing more than five games for the senior side of a non FIFA Top 50 nation (Jamaica are #59) in the past year should in itself be enough for an ESC. Dixon has played eight games for Jamaica since March so he 99.99% will get an ESC exemption, but as you can imagine the above process takes a while. I said it was unlikely to be resolved before the start of the season. TL;DR Dixon won't get a work permit, but will get an ESC/GBE exemption instead. There's nothing Charlton can do to speed this process up, so it happens when it happens. A week or two from now is my guess, although it might be quicker (will partly depend upon how many other ESC/GBE applications the FA are currently working through). this is my understanding too, he will be given an exemption ( which is a year) at which point he will have to apply for a WP again, worse comes to worse next year he can be exempted again, effectively a when rather than an if at this point but patience will be key. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 9, 2024 19:21:03 GMT
Sonny Bradley only on the bench for Derby at Blackburn this evening.
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Post by charltontillidiecoyr on Aug 9, 2024 19:31:24 GMT
Sonny Bradley only on the bench for Derby at Blackburn this evening. Potts or bradley …? |
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Post by innerspaced on Aug 10, 2024 14:52:15 GMT
Apparently in for malik wilks.
Can't see it unless we have lost someone
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Post by MurciaAl on Aug 10, 2024 15:05:02 GMT
Apparently in for malik wilks. Can't see it unless we have lost someone Where have you heard this mate? Last I heard Rotherham were in for him. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Aug 10, 2024 15:12:38 GMT
Apparently in for malik wilks. Can't see it unless we have lost someone Where have you heard this mate? Last I heard Rotherham were in for him. Presumably this which has very little chance of being true looking at the source |
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Post by brad on Aug 10, 2024 15:36:28 GMT
Our answer for the attacking midfield we need or number 10 as most believe we need could be playing against us today. Aasgard good player there.
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Post by chertseyaddick on Aug 10, 2024 15:49:16 GMT
Mo Cham for Canterbury seems quite prolific a few tiers down.
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Post by steve2707 on Aug 10, 2024 20:02:58 GMT
Mo Cham for Canterbury seems quite prolific a few tiers down. You are talking about level 9-10. Not even a professional league. Do you really think a 23 year old wouldn't have made it as a pro by now, if they were going to? I'm all for improving the midfield, but we need to get real here. No way he would help us. |
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Post by valleydobson1 on Aug 10, 2024 21:35:45 GMT
Reams anyone who never played today for there team we could sign? Improve us?.
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Post by cafcph on Aug 11, 2024 8:48:58 GMT
Where have you heard this mate? Last I heard Rotherham were in for him. Presumably this which has very little chance of being true looking at the source There’s an attitude problem with him. Not as a person but work ethic. Had a couple of good seasons and clearly very talented but he’s not been effective for a few years now.. If NJ could get him working then it would be an awesome deal, but you have to get him going. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2024 9:21:05 GMT
No thanks.
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Post by aucklandaddick on Aug 11, 2024 9:23:44 GMT
Nah agree…..don’t think he is the answer to our creativity requirement…. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 11, 2024 10:42:09 GMT
Had a bit of a catch up before I left for the game yesterday and I asked about further incomings and possible loans.
In terms of loans I was told we have to be very careful about bringing them in, in positions where we have highly-rated Academy players coming through.
Miles is 20, TC 20, Dixon 19, Mbick 18. The message that goes out to our own young players when we take a totally inexperienced one in their position is that we don't rate them. And the message it sends to the 16 and 17 year-olds who other clubs are trying to poach is that there isn't much upside to staying at Charlton.
I do understand this I really do but I really don't think we are producing the youngsters that we used to. This is where I think the 8-8-8 model is flawed.
I rate Miles, cracking ability at his age and I see him as an already established first team player and if Kaheim can hit the ground running we will have a gem on our hands.
None of the others excite me. Asiimwe is good going forward but struggles defensively and while Mbick and Casey score goals for fun against their own age group, I don't see them knocking on the door anytime soon.
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Post by herewego on Aug 11, 2024 10:53:26 GMT
Jones has already said he will only bring loans in if they are a level above what we have got. I think that is a good call.
Our bench yesterday was strong and we didn’t have Miles, Godden or Terry. I don’t think we are a millions miles away, for me the missing piece is a CAM. Is any perms close Reams or any players you can se are of interest to us?
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Post by aucklandaddick on Aug 11, 2024 11:10:42 GMT
Had a bit of a catch up before I left for the game yesterday and I asked about further incomings and possible loans. In terms of loans I was told we have to be very careful about bringing them in, in positions where we have highly-rated Academy players coming through. Miles is 20, TC 20, Dixon 19, Mbick 18. The message that goes out to our own young players when we take a totally inexperienced one in their position is that we don't rate them. And the message it sends to the 16 and 17 year-olds who other clubs are trying to poach is that there isn't much upside to staying at Charlton. I do understand this I really do but I really don't think we are producing the youngsters that we used to. This is where I think the 8-8-8 model is flawed. I rate Miles, cracking ability at his age and I see him as an already established first team player and if Kaheim can hit the ground running we will have a gem on our hands. None of the others excite me. Asiimwe is good going forward but struggles defensively and while Mbick and Casey score goals for fun against their own age group,I don't see them knocking on the door anytime soon. I get the fact that the club now don’t want to bring in young loans in front of what we have….Scott brought in the likes of Campbell and Watson last season and they were clearly short of what Jones sees in a league one player…… Jones said this late last season when he said he didn’t want to coach other teams kids for the benefit of that club…..but that should not stop us bringing in a quality experienced loan or two especially in the CAM and Goalkeeper areas….Its plain to see we need more creativity in the midfield area and I don’t think we can go the season trying to grind out results as we did yesterday Was there any talk of new players coming in other than the keeper, Potts and Hylton….. |
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Post by westwickhamaddick on Aug 11, 2024 12:18:01 GMT
Be interesting to see if Scott twine plays any role for Burnley tomorrow. He is a loan that could propel us to top 2 and would be worth the outlay. Probably dreaming to think we could get him but the exact player we are crying out for
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 11, 2024 12:33:29 GMT
Jones has already said he will only bring loans in if they are a level above what we have got. I think that is a good call. Our bench yesterday was strong and we didn’t have Miles, Godden or Terry. I don’t think we are a millions miles away, for me the missing piece is a CAM. Is any perms close Reams or any players you can se are of interest to us? No names mate but I gave a bit of a hunch on one based on absolutely not very much. I'll come back to it. In that same conversation I had yesterday it was agreed that we are strong in the wing-back/full-back and CB positions. The same was said of our options up front which I agreed less with. I suggested a loan like Will Lankshear but that is when our young strikers came into it and how we don't really want to block their path. I expressed concerns on this as we have Godden with a niggle, Ahadme and Chucks who are both susceptible to injuries and don't know how Miles' hamstring will hold up to the demands of L1 football. We can't be left with Kanu and TC to choose from. We are happy with what we have but agreed that we are just lacking somebody who reliably pulls the trigger from the edge of the box. I think the keeper situation has flipped. They like Mannion and might well be looking for a back up rather than Mannion being that himself. It's an area that is obviously proving tricky. Until it becomes clear to some GKs in the EPL and Champ that they are going to sit on the bench all season we probably won't get much movement there. It's the same situation all over the pitch really because we won't precisely know where we are short until what is essentially a new team has played together for four or five games. By that stage all of your squad has played a part thanks to opportunities that come their way via the League Cup so I think we'll see how we go for a few weeks and if NJ doesn't think he has the personnel to give us what we are short of, a CAM for example, then I'm sure we'll make a move. That's how the discussion ended. Now, as for that CAM I asked if we had any interest in Elliot Lee. There was no particular reason other than me keeping an eye on goings on at Wrexham who by the way, It's well worth watching Jack Marriott's goal for them yesterday, it's a sight to behold. Anyway they have already signed Dobson and on Friday bought in attacking midfielder Ollie Rathbone from Rotherham. Could Lee be off? He played for NJ at Luton. His Dad is a Charlton legend. His wife and kids couldn't settle in Wrexham so moved back down South over the summer, Wrexham are signing lots of midfielders. Forget his loan spell with us. He is at the prime of his career and is the type of player we need. Scores all kinds of goals and has been a outstanding for Wrexham. Shoots on target and he scored some belters last season. Come the end of the window there will definitely be it's and outs. Miles resumes full training soon. |
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Post by clarky on Aug 11, 2024 12:37:16 GMT
It is an awkward one bringing in loans for the reasons stated but as things currently stand I don't think the youngsters are yet good enough to be starting on a regular basis, certainly not for a promotion push.
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Post by scoham on Aug 11, 2024 13:34:36 GMT
What Jones means is there’s no point bringing in loans of the standard of Tedic, Watson, Abankwah, Campbell as we saw last season and Kilkenny, Castillo, John etc before that. I have to agree with that as this group of academy players have already shown they offer more and we’re developing our own players rather than another clubs.
Although there’s not another Gomez or Lookman in this group a lot of them have potential to develop into regulars with us, but we’ll have to be patient and give them time to improve. Playing in a better team who are tough to beat will help them a lot. They’re also cheaper than bringing in L1 journeymen as cover - what we don’t need are more players like Tennai Watson who will do a job but aren’t going to step up to the Championship.
There are examples of that happening in previous promotion seasons with players like Solly, Grant, Aribo and Dijksteel who didn’t become first choice until roughly their 2nd or 3rd seasons with the senior squad. Players like Cousins, Wagstaff, Harriott and so on weren’t top prospects but they made positive contributions too.
They probably won’t all become starters but I won’t be surprised if one or two really push on and change opinions. If it was up to some fans we’d have released Solly and Grant after writing them off a year or two into their senior careers - one becamr our POTY two years in a row and the other was sold for 7 figures before Huddersfield made a huge profit on him.
Konsa is a great example of why players shouldn’t be written off too early. Brentford saw the potential but many fans didn’t rate him as he wasn’t a traditional big strong CB. He was another who a huge profit was made on.
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Post by 1978sussex on Aug 11, 2024 15:39:16 GMT
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 11, 2024 15:42:52 GMT
I don't want Marosi. Wilson I wouldn't mind but whoever does come in shouldn't just be a shoe in. Mannion has started well and keep the shirt until if and when a change is needed.
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Post by norfolkrobin on Aug 11, 2024 16:01:19 GMT
Nah agree…..don’t think he is the answer to our creativity requirement…. No big time Charlie's who think they're doing us a favour. |
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Post by norfolkrobin on Aug 11, 2024 16:08:09 GMT
Jones has already said he will only bring loans in if they are a level above what we have got. I think that is a good call. Our bench yesterday was strong and we didn’t have Miles, Godden or Terry. I don’t think we are a millions miles away, for me the missing piece is a CAM. Is any perms close Reams or any players you can se are of interest to us? No names mate but I gave a bit of a hunch on one based on absolutely not very much. I'll come back to it. In that same conversation I had yesterday it was agreed that we are strong in the wing-back/full-back and CB positions. The same was said of our options up front which I agreed less with. I suggested a loan like Will Lankshear but that is when our young strikers came into it and how we don't really want to block their path. I expressed concerns on this as we have Godden with a niggle, Ahadme and Chucks who are both susceptible to injuries and don't know how Miles' hamstring will hold up to the demands of L1 football. We can't be left with Kanu and TC to choose from. We are happy with what we have but agreed that we are just lacking somebody who reliably pulls the trigger from the edge of the box. I think the keeper situation has flipped. They like Mannion and might well be looking for a back up rather than Mannion being that himself. It's an area that is obviously proving tricky. Until it becomes clear to some GKs in the EPL and Champ that they are going to sit on the bench all season we probably won't get much movement there. It's the same situation all over the pitch really because we won't precisely know where we are short until what is essentially a new team has played together for four or five games. By that stage all of your squad has played a part thanks to opportunities that come their way via the League Cup so I think we'll see how we go for a few weeks and if NJ doesn't think he has the personnel to give us what we are short of, a CAM for example, then I'm sure we'll make a move. That's how the discussion ended. Now, as for that CAM I asked if we had any interest in Elliot Lee. There was no particular reason other than me keeping an eye on goings on at Wrexham who by the way, It's well worth watching Jack Marriott's goal for them yesterday, it's a sight to behold. Anyway they have already signed Dobson and on Friday bought in attacking midfielder Ollie Rathbone from Rotherham. Could Lee be off? He played for NJ at Luton. His Dad is a Charlton legend. His wife and kids couldn't settle in Wrexham so moved back down South over the summer, Wrexham are signing lots of midfielders. Forget his loan spell with us. He is at the prime of his career and is the type of player we need. Scores all kinds of goals and has been a outstanding for Wrexham. Shoots on target and he scored some belters last season. Come the end of the window there will definitely be it's and outs. Miles resumes full training soon. EL is an interesting shout,fans seemed to take to him,I know times are different now but I'm sure there was an interview with a podcast or something where he said in not so many word the club at the point he was here it was a circus/joke. Could NJ have another Scottish gem up his sleeve possibly? Convince someone to part with a Scott Fraser type,and he gets to go home? It would be good to have a midfielder that is capable of peppering the opposition goal with shots,if they can't slip somebody in. |
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Post by valleydobson1 on Aug 11, 2024 16:36:33 GMT
No names mate but I gave a bit of a hunch on one based on absolutely not very much. I'll come back to it. In that same conversation I had yesterday it was agreed that we are strong in the wing-back/full-back and CB positions. The same was said of our options up front which I agreed less with. I suggested a loan like Will Lankshear but that is when our young strikers came into it and how we don't really want to block their path. I expressed concerns on this as we have Godden with a niggle, Ahadme and Chucks who are both susceptible to injuries and don't know how Miles' hamstring will hold up to the demands of L1 football. We can't be left with Kanu and TC to choose from. We are happy with what we have but agreed that we are just lacking somebody who reliably pulls the trigger from the edge of the box. I think the keeper situation has flipped. They like Mannion and might well be looking for a back up rather than Mannion being that himself. It's an area that is obviously proving tricky. Until it becomes clear to some GKs in the EPL and Champ that they are going to sit on the bench all season we probably won't get much movement there. It's the same situation all over the pitch really because we won't precisely know where we are short until what is essentially a new team has played together for four or five games. By that stage all of your squad has played a part thanks to opportunities that come their way via the League Cup so I think we'll see how we go for a few weeks and if NJ doesn't think he has the personnel to give us what we are short of, a CAM for example, then I'm sure we'll make a move. That's how the discussion ended. Now, as for that CAM I asked if we had any interest in Elliot Lee. There was no particular reason other than me keeping an eye on goings on at Wrexham who by the way, It's well worth watching Jack Marriott's goal for them yesterday, it's a sight to behold. Anyway they have already signed Dobson and on Friday bought in attacking midfielder Ollie Rathbone from Rotherham. Could Lee be off? He played for NJ at Luton. His Dad is a Charlton legend. His wife and kids couldn't settle in Wrexham so moved back down South over the summer, Wrexham are signing lots of midfielders. Forget his loan spell with us. He is at the prime of his career and is the type of player we need. Scores all kinds of goals and has been a outstanding for Wrexham. Shoots on target and he scored some belters last season. Come the end of the window there will definitely be it's and outs. Miles resumes full training soon. EL is an interesting shout,fans seemed to take to him,I know times are different now but I'm sure there was an interview with a podcast or something where he said in not so many word the club at the point he was here it was a circus/joke. Could NJ have another Scottish gem up his sleeve possibly? Convince someone to part with a Scott Fraser type,and he gets to go home? It would be good to have a midfielder that is capable of peppering the opposition goal with shots,if they can't slip somebody in. What about Jorge Grant? |
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 11, 2024 16:55:22 GMT
I was looking at him the other day when trying to work out would Hearts have anyone we might be interested in a swop deal.
Seems well settled there though to be honest.
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Post by ExeterAddick on Aug 11, 2024 18:22:13 GMT
I don't want Marosi. Wilson I wouldn't mind but whoever does come in shouldn't just be a shoe in. Mannion has started well and keep the shirt until if and when a change is needed. Lots of people being negative about Marosi, but Shrews fans seem to rate him and I think he was their player of the season last year. Why does nobody fancy him? |
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 11, 2024 18:35:59 GMT
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Post by steve2707 on Aug 11, 2024 18:54:40 GMT
I don't want Marosi. Wilson I wouldn't mind but whoever does come in shouldn't just be a shoe in. Mannion has started well and keep the shirt until if and when a change is needed. Lots of people being negative about Marosi, but Shrews fans seem to rate him and I think he was their player of the season last year. Why does nobody fancy him? You know he was the 'keeper a few seasons ago who said that someone in the covered end made some rascist comment? After that, why would you think he'd be interested in signing for Charlton? |
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