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Post by aaronaldo on Aug 5, 2024 14:34:48 GMT
Rumour on the other site that Potts will be the next one in once we have offloaded one……...probably Fraser Makes sense, would imagine NJ is keen to tie him down ASAP as I would imagine a fit Potts would be attracting interest…..I think I read that Luton were keen to take in him back on a shorter contract….Potts is another Captain and we know how much NJ likes leaders in his side I’ll be happy with that if true. Potts will be a good signing for me.
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 5, 2024 14:52:25 GMT
Rumour on the other site that Potts will be the next one in once we have offloaded one……...probably Fraser Makes sense, would imagine NJ is keen to tie him down ASAP as I would imagine a fit Potts would be attracting interest…..I think I read that Luton were keen to take in him back on a shorter contract….Potts is another Captain and we know how much NJ likes leaders in his side Don't think it's a rumour that one mate, it's more a case of everyone expecting that to happen. I've already said Fraser will go out on loan later this week so that will happen and as Potts and Hylton are both training with us so they will be the next one's in.
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Post by valleyfaithful on Aug 5, 2024 14:54:23 GMT
Fair points, I was referring more to recent seasons so I'll discount the very early ones but I hadn't realised there was a loan in-between there during the 20/21 season so appreciate the information. That said, across the last three years he's managed a total of 37 games out of a possible 138, so still a very small %. I don't think it's unfair to say injury has prevented him finding any kind of consistent form. I don't want to be difficult but in the last three years he's managed 47 games out of a possible 138, or 16/46, at 20; 26/46 at 21; and 5/46 in an injury ravaged season. So ignoring this last season he's managed 42 out of 92. That's respectable for such a young player, in my opinion. Not that I think this matters too much, if we can't shift anyone else then it might be that sacrificing Taylor is the club's decision. I just wouldn't get rid of him because he's not played enough games. Ah yes you’re right it was 16, 26 and 5 respectively but with all due respect last season is still relevant, I still personally think it’s a poor return - those three years are 20+ so I don’t think being a supposed youth player matters. I want my midfielders to be more reliable than we’ve seen in recent years so I’m still not fussed if he goes personally.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2024 14:59:34 GMT
Rumour on the other site that Potts will be the next one in once we have offloaded one……...probably Fraser Makes sense, would imagine NJ is keen to tie him down ASAP as I would imagine a fit Potts would be attracting interest…..I think I read that Luton were keen to take in him back on a shorter contract….Potts is another Captain and we know how much NJ likes leaders in his side Don't think it's a rumour that one mate, it's more a case of everyone expecting that to happen. I've already said Fraser will go out on loan later this week so that will happen and as Potts and Hylton are both training with us so they will be the next one's in. I just don’t understand why Hylton is being brought in.
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Post by bexleyboy on Aug 5, 2024 15:02:18 GMT
Don't think it's a rumour that one mate, it's more a case of everyone expecting that to happen. I've already said Fraser will go out on loan later this week so that will happen and as Potts and Hylton are both training with us so they will be the next one's in. I just don’t understand why Hylton is being brought in. To cover till Leaburn returns and in case he suffers any set backs
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Post by valleydobson1 on Aug 5, 2024 15:02:40 GMT
Don't think it's a rumour that one mate, it's more a case of everyone expecting that to happen. I've already said Fraser will go out on loan later this week so that will happen and as Potts and Hylton are both training with us so they will be the next one's in. I just don’t understand why Hylton is being brought in. Hylton cover for Leaburn. Where is Dixon?.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2024 15:13:06 GMT
I just don’t understand why Hylton is being brought in. Hylton cover for Leaburn. Where is Dixon?. Awaiting a work permit.
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Post by valleydobson1 on Aug 5, 2024 15:15:42 GMT
Ten signings
Is that enough? If the last three are Hylton,Dixon and Potts.
Or also use loan market end of August?.
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Post by grapevine49 on Aug 5, 2024 15:18:20 GMT
Hylton is insurance for both Leaburn AND Aneke. The latter has been spent, as the NFL would say, nearly 2yrs on the PUP list. Players Unable to Perform. I genuinely respect what the guy can deliver but to argue he is will be a fully functioning member of the 2024/25 team is a statement more in hope than reality.
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 5, 2024 15:18:52 GMT
Ten signings Is that enough? If the last three are Hylton,Dixon and Potts. Or also use loan market end of August?. We'll sign a keeper and possibly go back for Bishop if he doesn't get fixed up.
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Post by aucklandaddick on Aug 5, 2024 15:19:50 GMT
I just don’t understand why Hylton is being brought in. To cover till Leaburn returns and in case he suffers any set backs With Leaburn and Dixon we will have 7 forwards on the books……I agree Dick I also don’t understand why Hylton is being brought in to make it 8 forwards…..
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Post by valleydobson1 on Aug 5, 2024 15:20:42 GMT
To cover till Leaburn returns and in case he suffers any set backs With Leaburn and Dixon we will have 7 forwards on the books……I agree Dick I also don’t understand why Hylton is being brought in to make it 8 forwards….. Maybe we loan out couple of our young forwards?.
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Post by geronimo on Aug 5, 2024 15:23:01 GMT
Rotherham & Barnsley are in for Terry Taylor More fool us then if we accept an offer
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Post by kings hill addick on Aug 5, 2024 15:28:17 GMT
To cover till Leaburn returns and in case he suffers any set backs With Leaburn and Dixon we will have 7 forwards on the books……I agree Dick I also don’t understand why Hylton is being brought in to make it 8 forwards….. If we're going to play with two up front and change both of them late in the game we will need four for each match. Dixon is, likely, to be one for the future, Kanu is still very young and Leaburn and Aneke are not fit, and neither of them have been able to last half a season without getting, long term, injured. That, potentially, leaves us short. Signing an older player that has lots of experience, on a modest contract, that can help with coaching the young players doesn't seem to silly on that basis.
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Post by herewego on Aug 5, 2024 15:28:57 GMT
I don’t rate Hylton at all, I would rather put TC up there or Kanu if Aneke or Leaburn break down. I don’t see what he offers at all hardly a goal machine and certainly lacks pace.
Considering we are tight on spaces and need to see players leave would not be who I would bring in
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Post by Bexleyranger on Aug 5, 2024 15:40:31 GMT
I don’t rate Hylton at all, I would rather put TC up there or Kanu if Aneke or Leaburn break down. I don’t see what he offers at all hardly a goal machine and certainly lacks pace. Considering we are tight on spaces and need to see players leave would not be who I would bring in That’s still what will happen in regards to Kanu and TC up top. Hylton will be signed to guide and tutor the youngsters and give us an emergency striking option. All for a very small fee. Nothing to get excited about no. But I can see why we would do it.
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Post by aucklandaddick on Aug 5, 2024 15:43:04 GMT
With Leaburn and Dixon we will have 7 forwards on the books……I agree Dick I also don’t understand why Hylton is being brought in to make it 8 forwards….. If we're going to play with two up front and change both of them late in the game we will need four for each match. Dixon is, likely, to be one for the future, Kanu is still very young and Leaburn and Aneke are not fit, and neither of them have been able to last half a season without getting, long term, injured. That, potentially, leaves us short. Signing an older player that has lots of experience, on a modest contract, that can help with coaching the young players doesn't seem to silly on that basis. Aneke not fit? What have you heard? NJ stated we were injury free on Saturday….. Kanu despite his age has been mainly ever present in the match day squad for the last season……Dixon yeah, it might take a while for him to be integrated into the first team….. So we bring in an 7th/ 8th striker based on ifs and buts when we are crying out for midfield creativity…….. All about opinions I know but I think any spare budget needs to be spent elsewhere…..
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Post by kings hill addick on Aug 5, 2024 16:09:49 GMT
If we're going to play with two up front and change both of them late in the game we will need four for each match. Dixon is, likely, to be one for the future, Kanu is still very young and Leaburn and Aneke are not fit, and neither of them have been able to last half a season without getting, long term, injured. That, potentially, leaves us short. Signing an older player that has lots of experience, on a modest contract, that can help with coaching the young players doesn't seem to silly on that basis. Aneke not fit? What have you heard? NJ stated we were injury free on Saturday….. Kanu despite his age has been mainly ever present in the match day squad for the last season……Dixon yeah, it might take a while for him to be integrated into the first team….. So we bring in an 7th/ 8th striker based on ifs and buts when we are crying out for midfield creativity…….. All about opinions I know but I think any spare budget needs to be spent elsewhere….. Did you see Aneke on Saturday? My 80 year old mother moves faster than he does. He might not be injured, yet, but he is certainly not match fit by the standards of any other professional sportsman. He will make a nuisance of himself in the box, all be it that he has missed a penalty and two easy headers in the last three home games, but we all know that he will be injured before he has played 200 minutes this season. I’m not getting at the chap, and he can be useful from the bench for five or ten minutes, but he cannot be relied upon to play 90 minutes, and can’t be trusted to be available for most of the season.
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Aug 5, 2024 16:11:49 GMT
As I mentioned earlier, NJ made clear in his post-match interview (reported by SLP etc) that he “is no rush” but wants to sign both Potts and Hylton.
Also, the nature of our signing of Dixon (via the GBE/ESC route since he doesn’t qualify for a standard work permit) means we’ll probably have to involve him with the senior squad sooner rather than later.
Keeping all eight strikers seems unlikely so surely Kanu (as I can’t think who else) will go out on loan?
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 5, 2024 16:24:43 GMT
As I mentioned earlier, NJ made clear in his post-match interview (reported by SLP etc) that he “is no rush” but wants to sign both Potts and Hylton. Also, the nature of our signing of Dixon (via the GBE/ESC route since he doesn’t qualify for a standard work permit) means we’ll probably have to involve him with the senior squad sooner rather than later. Keeping all eight strikers seems unlikely so surely Kanu (as I can’t think who else) will go out on loan? Southend would be the perfect fit for Kanu. I think they will have a very good season now that their financial isues have been resolved. Just depends on whether we are happy to see him drop two levels. A L2 loan would be more ideal for him I think.
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Post by willett on Aug 5, 2024 16:25:28 GMT
Danny Hylton hasn’t scored a competitive goal since 2022.
He scored 0 in 30 Games for Northampton.
Surely there’s better options out there?
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Post by herewego on Aug 5, 2024 16:54:52 GMT
I’m struggling to see what he offers as a coach either to be honest. Sounds like Jones is doing a favour to an old mate.
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Post by kings hill addick on Aug 5, 2024 17:18:04 GMT
Danny Hylton hasn’t scored a competitive goal since 2022. He scored 0 in 30 Games for Northampton. Surely there’s better options out there? He scored in a friendly for us. That's 1 in 1. Ronaldo would be happy with that!
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Post by se17foxy on Aug 5, 2024 17:18:30 GMT
I’m struggling to see what he offers as a coach either to be honest. Sounds like Jones is doing a favour to an old mate. He’s played over 400 Games and scored 100+ goals in the EFL playing at all 3 levels. That career alone is one that the young players at our football club should strive to follow and succeed. If all he adds is invaluable experience then so be it
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 5, 2024 17:28:54 GMT
He's the type of player you throw on when you are winning by the odd goal in the dying embers. He's a pain in the arse, niggly fouls for and against, kicks the ball away, winds defenders up, gets in their faces and kills the game.
He showed that against Palace, horrible to play against and that's just what we need, when we need it.
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Post by 995632 on Aug 5, 2024 17:29:14 GMT
To cover till Leaburn returns and in case he suffers any set backs With Leaburn and Dixon we will have 7 forwards on the books……I agree Dick I also don’t understand why Hylton is being brought in to make it 8 forwards….. Think the idea is he would be signed as a player coach and his wages wouldn't count towards the playing budget; Derby did it with Wayne Rooney!! We have a spare (experienced) body to cover Aneke and Leaburn when/if called upon who can also help Kanu, Campbell and Leaburn to be better strikers. This would be like what we really should've done with Jason Pearce!
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 5, 2024 17:32:44 GMT
With Leaburn and Dixon we will have 7 forwards on the books……I agree Dick I also don’t understand why Hylton is being brought in to make it 8 forwards….. Think the idea is he would be signed as a player coach and his wages wouldn't count towards the playing budget; Derby did it with Wayne Rooney!! We have a spare (experienced) body to cover Aneke and Leaburn when/if called upon who can also help Kanu, Campbell and Leaburn to be better strikers. This would be like what we really should've done with Jason Pearce! What's not to like.
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Post by 1978sussex on Aug 5, 2024 19:11:13 GMT
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Post by DFT on Aug 5, 2024 19:24:34 GMT
Karl Hein, GK from Arsenal rumoured to be on his way.
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Post by seriouslyred on Aug 5, 2024 19:28:57 GMT
Whichever part of the squad we discuss we will be in a better place to judge in two or three weeks. We'll have played a few games with the management, fans, SMT and investors all able to digest where we are.
Certain perm players may have left creating spaces and budget.
EPL clubs will be settling on their 25 man squads meaning a fair few loan deals become possible. And the club will know more about Miles Leaburn's potential return date.
The bookies and others are tipping us to break back into the top six. But until we see how we and the competition actually play it's hard to comment.
And then there's random events such as injuries! So there's much for Jones, coaches and SMT to consider before they finalise decision on Keeper etc. Of course they'll have a view today, but opinions and possibilities are gonna shift before the window closes.
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