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Post by 1978sussex on Aug 4, 2024 18:52:42 GMT
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 4, 2024 19:04:54 GMT
It appears Nixon's retweeted one of his own posts from June 27th which said "Charlton after gk...Blackburn also interested" His retweet has the additional comment "struggling to agree terms". So it's a bit ambiguous and he likely could've selected a different related tweet that didn't mention Blackburn. But it lines up to being about we are struggling to agree terms with him which is obviously what the hold up is about. |
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Post by 995632 on Aug 4, 2024 21:35:45 GMT
It appears Nixon's retweeted one of his own posts from June 27th which said "Charlton after gk...Blackburn also interested" His retweet has the additional comment "struggling to agree terms". So it's a bit ambiguous and he likely could've selected a different related tweet that didn't mention Blackburn. But it lines up to being about we are struggling to agree terms with him which is obviously what the hold up is about. Talking of struggling to agree terms; semi interesting article here about Wrexham... Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney pay £3k-a-week more than rivals in transfer bids – with fellow EFL chairman revealing how Wrexham are able to boss market Darragh McAntony said "when pursuing Leicester defender Lewis Brunt – who impressed on loan at Mansfield last season – with Peterborough chairman Darragh MacAnthony telling his ‘The Hard Truth’ podcast of how Wrexham beat him to a much sought-after defender: “The ones we were in for, we had one signed, pretty much done, and at the last minute, obviously our Welsh friends came in and swooped in and offered him, I think it was £3,000 more a week than we had already agreed with the player. By the way, fair play to them, that’s their prerogative to do that, we’ve done that over the years with other clubs. The player chose them, no problem, I’ve got no issue with that.” www.goal.com/en-gb/lists/ryan-reynolds-rob-mcelhenney-pay-3k-a-week-more-than-rivals-transfer-bids-efl-chairman-revealing-how-wrexham-boss-market/blt7f835a240e32770e#cs631f1def64506a99 |
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Post by aaronaldo on Aug 5, 2024 9:22:40 GMT
It's not happening then
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 5, 2024 9:29:55 GMT
I alluded to that last week. Talks took place but what we were offering didn't match what he was looking for. It wasn't dead at that point because we did increase it but he turned the second bid down too.
On to other options. I'm not fussed to be honest.
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Post by aaronaldo on Aug 5, 2024 9:45:01 GMT
I'm surprised we haven't touched the loan markets at all. Maybe a GK option there?
I get that Nathan only wants to get loans if they improve the squad. But surely there are options out there for this? A lot of promotion winning teams have loanee's which elevate them and sometimes they end up buying them in the league above. Seems a waste not to dip our toes in that market.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2024 9:48:28 GMT
I am not bothered by Begovic not joining. Perhaps a Premiership loan would be the way to go.
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Post by manikin on Aug 5, 2024 9:51:54 GMT
I might be wrong, but don't the loans generally start happening once the Premier clubs have announced their squads.
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Post by yorkshireaddick on Aug 5, 2024 9:55:24 GMT
I am not bothered by Begovic not joining. Perhaps a Premiership loan would be the way to go. Begovic wasn't doing it for me either. Has to be a better option out there. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 5, 2024 10:15:04 GMT
I am not bothered by Begovic not joining. Perhaps a Premiership loan would be the way to go. We were also talking to a championship club about one of their keepers so I expect that's where he'll come from if we don't end up buying one. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Aug 5, 2024 10:15:31 GMT
I alluded to that last week. Talks took place but what we were offering didn't match what he was looking for. It wasn't dead at that point because we did increase it but he turned the second bid down too. On to other options. I'm not fussed to be honest. Not surprised as after talking to QPR mates they reckon he was too expensive for them hence not offering him a new deal….i think we would probably have offered him a quarter of what he was on last season…. Would imagine he is holding out for a better deal in the championship even by getting splinters in his backside on the bench…..It will be his last footballing payday after all…. |
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Post by Mundell on Aug 5, 2024 10:25:25 GMT
Just wondering who we think we might be trying to offload. Something along the following lines?
1. I can’t see why we’d want to keep Maynard-Brewer if we’re looking for a first choice keeper. We don’t need three options in this position. A permanent move or a loan?
2. Across the back five we’ve already got a credible starting line up plus cover, especially if Potts is signed. Here I’d assume we’d want to sell or loan out Watson or Asiimwe, but worth bearing in mind that neither is likely to play regularly so we might prefer to retain Watson as cover with Asiimwe going out on loan to enable him to develop. Ness appears to be surplus to requirements, but odd he was given a new one-year contract. We don’t need both Edmonds-Green and Z Mitchell and a loan for the latter would appear to be the optimal solution here.
3. In Jones’s system we clearly need a specialist pivot (‘6’ or holding midfield player) so it would be very odd to allow Taylor to move on given he’s the only alternative to Coventry in that position. Edmonds-Green might be an option but he’s obviously a very different kind of player.
4. Further forward in midfield, it appears that Fraser and almost certainly Edun are surplus to requirements with permanent moves desirable or loans if that’s not possible.
5. None of our roster of strikers is likely to be moved on, even on loan.
In summary then, I’d assume we’re looking to find loans for Asiimwe and Z Mitchell and, ideally, permanent deals elsewhere for Maynard-Brewer, Ness, Edun and Fraser.
I’ve almost certainly missed someone. Any thoughts?
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Post by leedsaddick on Aug 5, 2024 10:32:42 GMT
I am not bothered by Begovic not joining. Perhaps a Premiership loan would be the way to go. Begovic wasn't doing it for me either. Has to be a better option out there. I've got an intuitive feel that he was after one final big pay day, and I'm pleased he's not joining. At his age, his agility will be diminishing and I think he'd be a liability. If he was that good, Rangers would have offered him a deal |
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Post by valleyfaithful on Aug 5, 2024 10:33:48 GMT
Mundell Good summary and I agree with all of your points. My real outside shout for a loan move would actually be Kanu. I know he's been on the fringes for a year or two but if Leaburn is close to a return as Nathan mentioned, then we have 4 senior striker with Tyreece Campbell being 'something different' as a 5th. I don't think Nathan would usually consider loaning him out but if it's to enable an incoming player in a less-stocked area, I think it's one he might entertain. I also think it's important for DK to get minutes under him rather than being used as an impact sub, so a good move all round. His profile would fit the bill for Stockport so I could see them being interested (but maybe only as a permenant), or possibly Burton with their new look squad.
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Post by leedsaddick on Aug 5, 2024 10:35:19 GMT
Just wondering who we think we might be trying to offload. Something along the following lines? 1. I can’t see why we’d want to keep Maynard-Brewer if we’re looking for a first choice keeper. We don’t need three options in this position. A permanent move or a loan? 2. Across the back five we’ve already got a credible starting line up plus cover, especially if Potts is signed. Here I’d assume we’d want to sell or loan out Watson or Asiimwe, but worth bearing in mind that neither is likely to play regularly so we might prefer to retain Watson as cover with Asiimwe going out on loan to enable him to develop. Ness appears to be surplus to requirements, but odd he was given a new one-year contract. We don’t need both Edmonds-Green and Z Mitchell and a loan for the latter would appear to be the optimal solution here. 3. In Jones’s system we clearly need a specialist pivot (‘6’ or holding midfield player) so it would be very odd to allow Taylor to move on given he’s the only alternative to Coventry in that position. Edmonds-Green might be an option but he’s obviously a very different kind of player. 4. Further forward in midfield, it appears that Fraser and almost certainly Edun are surplus to requirements with permanent moves desirable or loans if that’s not possible. 5. None of our roster of strikers is likely to be moved on, even on loan. In summary then, I’d assume we’re looking to find loans for Asiimwe and Z Mitchell and, ideally, permanent deals elsewhere for Maynard-Brewer, Ness, Edun and Fraser. I’ve almost certainly missed someone. Any thoughts? Just on point 3, my contact at the John Smith's said that when Warnock was Manager, he played REG in front of the back 4 and was sucessfull... |
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 5, 2024 10:38:36 GMT
Just wondering who we think we might be trying to offload. Something along the following lines? 1. I can’t see why we’d want to keep Maynard-Brewer if we’re looking for a first choice keeper. We don’t need three options in this position. A permanent move or a loan? 2. Across the back five we’ve already got a credible starting line up plus cover, especially if Potts is signed. Here I’d assume we’d want to sell or loan out Watson or Asiimwe, but worth bearing in mind that neither is likely to play regularly so we might prefer to retain Watson as cover with Asiimwe going out on loan to enable him to develop. Ness appears to be surplus to requirements, but odd he was given a new one-year contract. We don’t need both Edmonds-Green and Z Mitchell and a loan for the latter would appear to be the optimal solution here. 3. In Jones’s system we clearly need a specialist pivot (‘6’ or holding midfield player) so it would be very odd to allow Taylor to move on given he’s the only alternative to Coventry in that position. Edmonds-Green might be an option but he’s obviously a very different kind of player. 4. Further forward in midfield, it appears that Fraser and almost certainly Edun are surplus to requirements with permanent moves desirable or loans if that’s not possible. 5. None of our roster of strikers is likely to be moved on, even on loan. In summary then, I’d assume we’re looking to find loans for Asiimwe and Z Mitchell and, ideally, permanent deals elsewhere for Maynard-Brewer, Ness, Edun and Fraser. I’ve almost certainly missed someone. Any thoughts? NJ wants three keeprs so I can't see AMB leaving to be honest but I do agree with you with all of the other names you have put forward. I think it will be a toss up between Watson and REG believing that it will be the former who is shipped out on loan as REG can play anywhere along the back four where Watson can't. Fraser is going back to Scotland on loan. Due to happen this week. All the others you have named should follow although Edun might leave on a perm. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2024 10:38:56 GMT
Just wondering who we think we might be trying to offload. Something along the following lines? 1. I can’t see why we’d want to keep Maynard-Brewer if we’re looking for a first choice keeper. We don’t need three options in this position. A permanent move or a loan? 2. Across the back five we’ve already got a credible starting line up plus cover, especially if Potts is signed. Here I’d assume we’d want to sell or loan out Watson or Asiimwe, but worth bearing in mind that neither is likely to play regularly so we might prefer to retain Watson as cover with Asiimwe going out on loan to enable him to develop. Ness appears to be surplus to requirements, but odd he was given a new one-year contract. We don’t need both Edmonds-Green and Z Mitchell and a loan for the latter would appear to be the optimal solution here. 3. In Jones’s system we clearly need a specialist pivot (‘6’ or holding midfield player) so it would be very odd to allow Taylor to move on given he’s the only alternative to Coventry in that position. Edmonds-Green might be an option but he’s obviously a very different kind of player. 4. Further forward in midfield, it appears that Fraser and almost certainly Edun are surplus to requirements with permanent moves desirable or loans if that’s not possible. 5. None of our roster of strikers is likely to be moved on, even on loan. In summary then, I’d assume we’re looking to find loans for Asiimwe and Z Mitchell and, ideally, permanent deals elsewhere for Maynard-Brewer, Ness, Edun and Fraser. I’ve almost certainly missed someone. Any thoughts? I think the players you have listed is just about right. I have always liked Zack Mitchell and Asiimwe is going to be an excellent wing back. But I think that a loan move for both in League two is the right move. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Aug 5, 2024 10:43:18 GMT
Just wondering who we think we might be trying to offload. Something along the following lines? 1. I can’t see why we’d want to keep Maynard-Brewer if we’re looking for a first choice keeper. We don’t need three options in this position. A permanent move or a loan? 2. Across the back five we’ve already got a credible starting line up plus cover, especially if Potts is signed. Here I’d assume we’d want to sell or loan out Watson or Asiimwe, but worth bearing in mind that neither is likely to play regularly so we might prefer to retain Watson as cover with Asiimwe going out on loan to enable him to develop. Ness appears to be surplus to requirements, but odd he was given a new one-year contract. We don’t need both Edmonds-Green and Z Mitchell and a loan for the latter would appear to be the optimal solution here. 3. In Jones’s system we clearly need a specialist pivot (‘6’ or holding midfield player) so it would be very odd to allow Taylor to move on given he’s the only alternative to Coventry in that position. Edmonds-Green might be an option but he’s obviously a very different kind of player. 4. Further forward in midfield, it appears that Fraser and almost certainly Edun are surplus to requirements with permanent moves desirable or loans if that’s not possible. 5. None of our roster of strikers is likely to be moved on, even on loan. In summary then, I’d assume we’re looking to find loans for Asiimwe and Z Mitchell and, ideally, permanent deals elsewhere for Maynard-Brewer, Ness, Edun and Fraser. I’ve almost certainly missed someone. Any thoughts? All pretty much my thinking…… |
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Post by zhengsociety on Aug 5, 2024 10:54:33 GMT
Personally wouldn’t let REG go. He was our best player in quite a few games last season and his versatility is a great asset. It’s a long season in League one and having someone who can play full back, centre back and centre mid is really valuable.
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Post by steve2707 on Aug 5, 2024 11:07:41 GMT
BBC reporting that Connor Gallagher is moving to Athletico Madrid for £33m. If true, I believe we get some money (I don't know how much) from Chelsea for being part of his academy development.
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Aug 5, 2024 11:57:43 GMT
BBC reporting that Connor Gallagher is moving to Athletico Madrid for £33m. If true, I believe we get some money (I don't know how much) from Chelsea for being part of his academy development. Gallagher is 24 so youth development compensation no longer applies - it's only if a player moves internationally before the end of the season when they turn 23 that it's payable. |
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Post by kings hill addick on Aug 5, 2024 12:02:32 GMT
I alluded to that last week. Talks took place but what we were offering didn't match what he was looking for. It wasn't dead at that point because we did increase it but he turned the second bid down too. On to other options. I'm not fussed to be honest. I know nothing but it would be my best guess that a 37 year old goalkeeper, that has only played 61 games in the last five years, is going to have to accept a little less money. That said, we do have some people at our club that do seem to have form for low balling players. Either way, if he doesn't want to sign for us then, I agree, we look for someone else. On more than one occasion we have has players come back with their tails between their legs and been told that the offer has gone. Or maybe he'll find a club willing to pay him Premier League money. |
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Post by cafclad on Aug 5, 2024 12:05:08 GMT
Rotherham & Barnsley are in for Terry Taylor
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Post by valleyfaithful on Aug 5, 2024 12:06:13 GMT
Rotherham & Barnsley are in for Terry Taylor |
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Post by reamsofverse on Aug 5, 2024 12:10:32 GMT
Not sure how I feel asbout this one. There are a few others I prefer to see go out through the door before him.
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Aug 5, 2024 12:11:07 GMT
I agree that there's a chance we will loan out Kanu.
Bear in mind that we will shortly have EIGHT senior strikers on our books, which seems a bit much.
This is based on (a) Danny Hylton signing, which NJ said in his post-Portsmouth press conference he was looking to do (although he didn't say how long for - maybe just a three month contract until Leaburn is back?), and (b) Kaheim Dixon being used as a striker like Campbell is in our wingerless system (although it may take a spell in the U21s to get him up to senior squad contention).
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Goalie-wise I'd be looking for a surplus to requirements perm from the Championship. Either Wilson or Collins from Coventry, for example. When I suggested this before I was told Champ wages would be an issue, but we've already got eight players we signed from Championship teams (plus two from the Premier League) so we must come fairly close for wages. I think Begovic's demands (given his age and vast PL experience) were likely way above the norm.
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Post by valleyfaithful on Aug 5, 2024 12:12:52 GMT
Not sure how I feel asbout this one. there are a few others I prefer to see go out through the door before him. Agree I wasn't massively happy at seeing it, I think there's defo a player in there. Thing is, looking at his stats, he's only had one season where he's managed over 20 games (26/46 for Burton in 22/23). As a reminder, he featured 5 times for us in the league last year and prior to 22/23, managed 13 appearances in back-to-back seasons. Given we need to move players on, I think it's worth taking the risk with offloading him - especially if there's a fee. |
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Post by kings hill addick on Aug 5, 2024 12:12:59 GMT
Just wondering who we think we might be trying to offload. Something along the following lines? 1. I can’t see why we’d want to keep Maynard-Brewer if we’re looking for a first choice keeper. We don’t need three options in this position. A permanent move or a loan? 2. Across the back five we’ve already got a credible starting line up plus cover, especially if Potts is signed. Here I’d assume we’d want to sell or loan out Watson or Asiimwe, but worth bearing in mind that neither is likely to play regularly so we might prefer to retain Watson as cover with Asiimwe going out on loan to enable him to develop. Ness appears to be surplus to requirements, but odd he was given a new one-year contract. We don’t need both Edmonds-Green and Z Mitchell and a loan for the latter would appear to be the optimal solution here. 3. In Jones’s system we clearly need a specialist pivot (‘6’ or holding midfield player) so it would be very odd to allow Taylor to move on given he’s the only alternative to Coventry in that position. Edmonds-Green might be an option but he’s obviously a very different kind of player. 4. Further forward in midfield, it appears that Fraser and almost certainly Edun are surplus to requirements with permanent moves desirable or loans if that’s not possible. 5. None of our roster of strikers is likely to be moved on, even on loan. In summary then, I’d assume we’re looking to find loans for Asiimwe and Z Mitchell and, ideally, permanent deals elsewhere for Maynard-Brewer, Ness, Edun and Fraser. I’ve almost certainly missed someone. Any thoughts? I agree with all of this. If Maynard-Brewer goes out on loan, to play more games, in League One/Two then I suspect we would sign an older keeper as third choice - second back up. If he goes to Non-League I think we can recall him if we need him in an emergency. This is assuming that we are unable to sign an emergency 'Keeper on loan if we need one. I'm sure this was a loophole that NYA mentioned in relation to signing outfield players and claiming they were Goalkeepers. |
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Post by cafcginge on Aug 5, 2024 12:15:10 GMT
Not sure how I feel asbout this one. There are a few others I prefer to see go out through the door before him. I agree I would like him to stay but with his age and his potential he’s not going to want to stay if he’s not guaranteed minutes which is fair enough to him so may be an easy one to offload as you say. |
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Post by valley57 on Aug 5, 2024 12:15:18 GMT
Personally I’m glad that we are not wasting money on a 37 year old rather
look for someone younger and hungrier and not someone looking for a last
wage packet as we have had a few times in the past
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