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Post by redrobbo on Jul 25, 2024 15:24:51 GMT
If heading straight into the senior squad that sorts out a balance issue. Campbell and Dixon can both play on either wing but TC has primarily been used on the left and Dixon on the right. Whilst we're not expecting NJ to play with wingers much, this does give options ('game changers') from the bench. Given that both players are young thus not on high wages (and outside of the salary cap) it's a non-spendy way to have the option of switching to wingers where and when needed. I think Dixon and Campbell could be used in a three or on the wings. Nice to have options. |
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Post by cafcginge on Jul 25, 2024 15:31:04 GMT
If Dixon can hit the ground running and TC can do what he has been doing in pre season we could so easily change to a 433 if needed. Starting with a 352 then switching to a 433 around the 70th min with them two either side of chuks in a front 3 could give tired defenders nightmares.
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Jul 25, 2024 15:34:00 GMT
Is the work permit likely to be an issue or no? Just wondering I've just been ploughing through the rules as it happens, and I don't think there's any way he'll hit the required 15 points to automatically get a work permit, so we'd have to apply to the FA for an exception. Whilst the fact he's played eight games (and scored two goals) for the Jamaica senior squad over the past six months (including the Copa America Finals, CONCAF Nations League and World Cup qualifiers) is great, the problem is Jamaica are 59th in the FIFA Rankings and you get little to no work permit points playing for teams outside the Top 50. That said, I think we'd have a very good chance of an FA sponsored exception for various reasons, such as the fact he's now established in the Jamaica senior squad and a very hotly tipped prospect. Things like him speaking English, Jamaica being in the commonwealth (and he could well have extended family in the UK) might also help. I think he'll likely get a work permit, but I don't think it will be a quick or simple process (maybe extending beyond the start of the season) but that's just based on skimming the super confusing rules which you can download by clicking here: www.thefa.com/-/media/files/thefaportal/governance-docs/registrations/gbe-criteria-2024-25/fa-mens-players-criteria-202425-final.ashxSection b of the following is what you can apply for an exception based on: 52. The Exceptions Panel shall only recommend to The FA that a GBE be granted if it is satisfied that either: a. exceptional circumstances prevented the Player from achieving 15 points, and if those exceptional circumstances did not apply, the Player would have achieved 15 points; or b. the Youth Player shows significant potential and is of sufficient quality to enhance the development of the game in England and justify the Exceptions Panel recommending that a GBE be awarded. |
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Jul 25, 2024 15:47:15 GMT
As per specific criteria for an exception, these are below - I've only included the bits relevant to Dixon and Charlton (people who aren't very good at reading moan when I post larger chunks of the FA rules).
I don't think it will be a problem getting an exception as per below, but like I say it will probably take a bit longer than the standard points based work permit would:
1. A Player may be granted a GBE as an ESC Player provided that:
1.1. the club has evidenced to The FA’s satisfaction that the Player is an elite player and will make
a significant contribution to the sport. Guidance in respect of this will be issued by The FA
from time to time but, as a minimum, The FA expects the Player to have, within the ESC Player
Reference Period, satisfied one or more of the following:
1.1.6. played in at least five Senior Competitive International Matches for a National
Association ranked outside the top 50 places in the Aggregated FIFA World Rankings;
SECTION II: ESC PLACES AND WEIGHTED EQP MINUTES PERCENTAGE
2. For the 2024/25 Season, each club in the:
2.2. EFL League One and EFL League Two shall have up to two ESC Places available at any one time
as determined by its Weighted EQP Minutes Percentage, as set out in Table 1 below. [We have 2 places basically. The EQP stuff and Table 1 is only relevant if teams have been promoted or relegated in the past year.]
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Post by westwickhamaddick on Jul 25, 2024 16:07:29 GMT
Hope he’s a better wildcard than Chris Dickson 😂. Man I got so excited with him and it never worked out for him. Young hungry and pace to burn , look forward to seeing him play
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Jul 25, 2024 16:26:10 GMT
I previously said L1 teams never really have to worry about the 22 overage outfielder squad limit, but Birmingham's shopping spree has them on 20 already, so that might soon be an issue for them.
We're currently on 17 incidentally.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 25, 2024 16:26:22 GMT
As per specific criteria for an exception, these are below - I've only included the bits relevant to Dixon and Charlton (people who aren't very good at reading moan when I post larger chunks of the FA rules). I don't think it will be a problem getting an exception as per below, but like I say it will probably take a bit longer than the standard points based work permit would: 1. A Player may be granted a GBE as an ESC Player provided that: 1.1. the club has evidenced to The FA’s satisfaction that the Player is an elite player and will make a significant contribution to the sport. Guidance in respect of this will be issued by The FA from time to time but, as a minimum, The FA expects the Player to have, within the ESC Player Reference Period, satisfied one or more of the following: 1.1.6. played in at least five Senior Competitive International Matches for a National Association ranked outside the top 50 places in the Aggregated FIFA World Rankings; SECTION II: ESC PLACES AND WEIGHTED EQP MINUTES PERCENTAGE 2. For the 2024/25 Season, each club in the: 2.2. EFL League One and EFL League Two shall have up to two ESC Places available at any one time as determined by its Weighted EQP Minutes Percentage, as set out in Table 1 below. [We have 2 places basically. The EQP stuff and Table 1 is only relevant if teams have been promoted or relegated in the past year.] I'm sure we wouldn't have announced this if there were going to be any visa issues. What ever barriers there might have been, I'm sure they have already been removed. The rules changed last summer so L1 clubs can sign two players who fail to meet visa requirements and I can't think of anyone we have at the moment who would count towards it. www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/new-rules-allow-english-clubs-sign-players-who-do-not-meet-work-permit-2023-06-14/ |
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Post by 1978sussex on Jul 25, 2024 16:33:20 GMT
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Post by AndyB on Jul 25, 2024 16:35:55 GMT
Love wild card signings like Dixon! Definitley worth a punt ! |
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Post by Tom1982 on Jul 25, 2024 16:37:52 GMT
Don’t think we’ll ever see him in a first team game but hopefully he’ll settle and get a chance.
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Post by chertseyaddick on Jul 25, 2024 16:39:37 GMT
I previously said L1 teams never really have to worry about the 22 overage outfielder squad limit, but Birmingham's shopping spree has them on 20 already, so that might soon be an issue for them. We're currently on 17 incidentally. Excluding Bishop, Potts and No 1 keeper. We seem to have a full squad, apart from young CBs, preferably left footers. But I'd still like to see Richard King, a right footer, because our only pace at the back is Mitchell , REG (too small) and FBs out of position. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 25, 2024 16:45:58 GMT
Don’t think we’ll ever see him in a first team game but hopefully he’ll settle and get a chance. I think he will. Very highly rated back home. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jul 25, 2024 16:54:41 GMT
I previously said L1 teams never really have to worry about the 22 overage outfielder squad limit, but Birmingham's shopping spree has them on 20 already, so that might soon be an issue for them. We're currently on 17 incidentally. Excluding Bishop, Potts and No 1 keeper. We seem to have a full squad, apart from young CBs, preferably left footers. But I'd still like to see Richard King, a right footer, because our only pace at the back is Mitchell , REG (too small) and FBs out of position. Dixon looks a very exciting prospect……still no news on Bishop signing…..still think we are hedging our bets and waiting on answers for other options before we offer him a deal…….. Who is Richard King by the way…..? |
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Jul 25, 2024 16:59:33 GMT
I'd still like to see Richard King, a right footer, because our only pace at the back is Mitchell , REG (too small) and FBs out of position. Richard King, the Jamaican who reportedly played as a triallist for our U21s last week? Given we have two ESC slots and he's made 18 appearances for Jamaica (thus would be able to sign on the same exception basis as Dixon) that's a possibility. King did spend all of last season on loan at IBV in Iceland (managed by Herman Hreidarsson, incidentally) and only managed six appearances for a relegated team. Bear in mind the whole of Iceland has less population than Croydon and anyone half decent moves overseas asap, so even though he was playing in their top division it's probably UK non-league level. That (plus the fact that he's age 22) doesn't suggest King has anywhere near the potential that Dixon does, so I'd be surprised if we're in for him personally. We shall see. |
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Post by chertseyaddick on Jul 25, 2024 17:00:38 GMT
Excluding Bishop, Potts and No 1 keeper. We seem to have a full squad, apart from young CBs, preferably left footers. But I'd still like to see Richard King, a right footer, because our only pace at the back is Mitchell , REG (too small) and FBs out of position. Dixon looks a very exciting prospect……still no news on Bishop signing…..still think we are hedging our bets and waiting on answers for other options before we offer him a deal…….. Who is Richard King by the way…..? Jamacian international defender who wants a move to Europe. Our U21s vs Mount Pleasant had a trialist called King. Could be a no mark 18yo midfielder or maybe Richard. Agree with WSFL assessment to some extent, but 18 international appearances at 22 can't be ignored. Jamaica probably are the strongest Caribbean side with many UK based defenders. |
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Post by jackcharlton on Jul 25, 2024 17:26:35 GMT
I'm all for an experienced keeper. Hopefully he can organise our defence enough using his experience that age won't matter, but i can't lie and say age is not a concern. Depends how fit he is. Will soon find out, assuming it actually happens. Neville Southall. |
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Post by reddan12 on Jul 25, 2024 17:30:13 GMT
I previously said L1 teams never really have to worry about the 22 overage outfielder squad limit, but Birmingham's shopping spree has them on 20 already, so that might soon be an issue for them. We're currently on 17 incidentally. Birmingham still have lots of players that are more than good enough to play in the championship. So I still expected 4 or 5 of them to move on and that's not including Jordan James who is only 20 but will go for big money to someone like Palace or Atalanta. |
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Post by clarky on Jul 25, 2024 17:34:03 GMT
As per specific criteria for an exception, these are below - I've only included the bits relevant to Dixon and Charlton (people who aren't very good at reading moan when I post larger chunks of the FA rules). I don't think it will be a problem getting an exception as per below, but like I say it will probably take a bit longer than the standard points based work permit would: 1. A Player may be granted a GBE as an ESC Player provided that: 1.1. the club has evidenced to The FA’s satisfaction that the Player is an elite player and will make a significant contribution to the sport. Guidance in respect of this will be issued by The FA from time to time but, as a minimum, The FA expects the Player to have, within the ESC Player Reference Period, satisfied one or more of the following: 1.1.6. played in at least five Senior Competitive International Matches for a National Association ranked outside the top 50 places in the Aggregated FIFA World Rankings; SECTION II: ESC PLACES AND WEIGHTED EQP MINUTES PERCENTAGE 2. For the 2024/25 Season, each club in the: 2.2. EFL League One and EFL League Two shall have up to two ESC Places available at any one time as determined by its Weighted EQP Minutes Percentage, as set out in Table 1 below. [We have 2 places basically. The EQP stuff and Table 1 is only relevant if teams have been promoted or relegated in the past year.] I'm sure we wouldn't have announced this if there were going to be any visa issues. What ever barriers there might have been, I'm sure they have already been removed. The rules changed last summer so L1 clubs can sign two players who fail to meet visa requirements and I can't think of anyone we have at the moment who would count towards it. www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/new-rules-allow-english-clubs-sign-players-who-do-not-meet-work-permit-2023-06-14/I agree. The fact his name came up several weeks ago you would have thought that the process is already well underway and if any hurdles remain they are seen as something that would stop the move. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Jul 25, 2024 18:08:48 GMT
Can’t see Fraser in any of the training clips released by the club today…
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Post by Bexleyranger on Jul 25, 2024 18:37:41 GMT
Can’t see Fraser in any of the training clips released by the club today… Best news I’ve heard all week. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 25, 2024 18:49:23 GMT
Sorry if I’m being dense but how has Kaheim Dixon been training with us if he’s been playing at Copa America? He isn't training with us. Dixon has been recommended to us by one of the top coaches in Jamaica. That is obviously in our favour. Meanwhile We have another Jamaican player on trial from the team we are linked up with, Mount Pleasant. His name is also in this thread from around 27th June onwards, put on here by myself. Just been confirmed that the recommendation did happen and that's why we followed it up. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 25, 2024 20:32:09 GMT
Bit of footage here of Kaheim Dixon who we were discussing earlier. There is plenty of work to do as bigger clubs are interested but what a prospect he looks. I do like it when something ages well!! I find it pathetic, although hardly surpising that people on another forum are judging him on a video in which he looks about 12! This one is as recent as you'll get as it's from last season and I don't see what's not to like. |
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Post by paulgdownunder on Jul 26, 2024 1:29:48 GMT
Lets hope Kaheim Dixon becomes another Kevin Lisbie .I hope those from warmer climes, settle. As in Cool Runnings ,most, i presume have never seen frost or snow .But hey! If you make it, you'll make it any where. He reminds me of young,Nesun Irankunda,of Adelaide United. who has just signed for Beyern Munich.A bit overrated to me, and a bit too cocky, but who am i to judge future talent. He has a great double somersault .backflip, when he scores, any way
As a point ,perhaps of interest,.to some. Usain Bolt who is aapparently a big soccer fan ,had a trial for the Central Coast Marriners,(NSW) about two years ago,They didnt take him on though. He was pretty quick ,though.
I dont know how Aussie, Karnu Baccus, got a permit to come to Mansfield Town .I think he only had a couple of games for Australia, But perhaps he was in the youth teams? That i presume count for points
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Post by bexleyboy on Jul 26, 2024 7:32:14 GMT
Celeb Taylor just signed new 4 year deal at WBA so only chance of getting him is on loan
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Post by Mundell on Jul 26, 2024 7:32:23 GMT
Very hard to know what to make of Dixon based on the clips available. However, he featured regularly off the bench in Jamaica’s summer internationals and that must mean he’s very highly rated at home. He’s just nineteen, hasn’t had the benefit of playing in an academy in England or of being exposed to football in the EFL and yet he’s been involved in a squad containing Michel Antonio, Bobby Cordova-Reid, Demarai Gray and others. The odds are that he’s very raw but with lots of potential.
It’s possible the fact there’s already a Jamaican international teammate at the same stage of his career at Charlton will help him settle. Dixon and Karoy Anderson were both used regularly off the bench in those internationals, with both starting against Dominica, the weakest opponent of the five countries played.
An interesting signing. This partnership may not work, but it’s great to see the club being innovative and experimenting in this way.
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Jul 26, 2024 8:17:02 GMT
I dont know how Aussie, Karnu Baccus, got a permit to come to Mansfield Town .I think he only had a couple of games for Australia. Mansfield signed him from St Mirren where he's been playing for the past two years, so he has clearly already got a UK work permit. St Mirren presumably got the work permit based on Australia U23 appearances. If Mansfield do have to apply for a new wirk permit, Baccus has played 19 games for the Australia senior squad in the last two years. Australia are ranked #24 in the world, so if he's played in 60% of their games in the last year (which he likely has) he automatically gets a work permit. If not then it doesn't matter anyway, since you only have to have played in one game for a Top 50 FIFA team (rather than five for a team outside the top fifty) to qualify for an ESC exemption. Like I said, it's the fact that Jamaica are ranked #59 that makes it slightly trickier. Signing internationals from Top 50 countries is a piece of piss. |
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Post by addickteduk on Jul 26, 2024 10:20:44 GMT
I do like it when something ages well!! I find it pathetic, although hardly surpising that people on another forum are judging him on a video in which he looks about 12! This one is as recent as you'll get as it's from last season and I don't see what's not to like. Always excited by a young player with pace to burn and an eye for goal, but the thing that stands out the most is how woeful the goalkeepers are - utterly shite! |
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Post by jwoodsboy on Jul 26, 2024 10:23:56 GMT
I find it pathetic, although hardly surpising that people on another forum are judging him on a video in which he looks about 12! This one is as recent as you'll get as it's from last season and I don't see what's not to like. Always excited by a young player with pace to burn and an eye for goal, but the thing that stands out the most is how woeful the goalkeepers are - utterly shite! |
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Post by paulgdownunder on Jul 26, 2024 11:19:36 GMT
I dont know how Aussie, Karnu Baccus, got a permit to come to Mansfield Town .I think he only had a couple of games for Australia. Mansfield signed him from St Mirren where he's been playing for the past two years, so he has clearly already got a UK work permit. St Mirren presumably got the work permit based on Australia U23 appearances. If Mansfield do have to apply for a new wirk permit, Baccus has played 19 games for the Australia senior squad in the last two years. Australia are ranked #24 in the world, so if he's played in 60% of their games in the last year (which he likely has) he automatically gets a work permit. If not then it doesn't matter anyway, since you only have to have played in one game for a Top 50 FIFA team (rather than five for a team outside the top fifty) to qualify for an ESC exemption. Like I said, it's the fact that Jamaica are ranked #59 that makes it slightly trickier. Signing internationals from Top 50 countries is a piece of piss. |
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Post by paulgdownunder on Jul 26, 2024 11:29:14 GMT
Many thanks for that info -re Karnu Baccus.Too complicated for my edification, but i guess there are those who thrive on this jargen
Just a thought- Wasn't Taylor from the Caribbean? Montserrat perhaps? Just the type of player we need.Would have him back in a heartbeat If he hadn't dudded us,in our hour of need
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