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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 22, 2024 6:46:09 GMT
I think the suggestion is there is more to come. Gillesphey has started just 12 games so far. He had two very successful seasons in League 1 with Plymouth the 2nd seeing them promoted as Champions. He regularly featured as the Central Defender in the back 3. So I can well see A Mitchell, Gillesphey and Potts (if he joins) as the starting combination leaving Ramsay, REG, Jones, Z Mitchell and possibly Edwards to compete/ rotate/ support though I am not sure REG fits the Jones mould. Shame I quite like him. Ramsay and Small will start as wing backs. Then I imagine we’d see Lloyd Jones, A Mitchell and Potts as a back 3 although I know Edwards can play there too and he’s looked pretty sharp pre season. Good to have decent options in REG, Macca, T Watson, etc. Strength in depth is key and we’re building that this window. I agree. We'll said. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jul 22, 2024 9:28:15 GMT
Best thing about the dodgy freebie stream (with no commentary) of the game in Slovenia was learning in between NJ's swearing what the players are actually called by him and the rest of the squad: Mitch, Doc, Bez, TC and so on. Gillesphey is Macca. He seems to be the best CB we have in terms of passing long from the back. I don't think Potts (if signed) if his replacement, just the other option there. In an ideal world (with no injuries etc) you could pick between two decent but somewhat different LCBs based upon what the team you're facing are likely to do offensively down their right. So many people seem to not get how much of a squad game (in this era of 11 starters + 7 subs + five or more injured or suspended) modern football is. I can't see us getting rid of Macca or REG. Ness will go of course, but playing 3-5-2 with wingbacks you need 10-12 defenders (including the wide ones) and there's a lot more squad space than people seem to think. Personally, I think something is amiss with REG, something just isn't adding up. I know NJ has come out and said he has a few muscular issues but he hasn't played at all during pre-season and it does make you wonder if there are any other underlying factors. We all seem to think one more CB will come in but I just don't see that happening unless one of the current CB's are sacrificed. I am not that sure that REG is part of NJ’s plans and it wouldn’t surprise me if he wasn’t with us come Aug 31st……He hardly got a game under NJ last season and for the most part was an unused sub when the likes of Hector and Thomas were being selected before him…I get the feeling that REG and Ness will be the defenders leaving us…..…Both Ramsay and Edward’s versatility in the CB roles also mean we don’t have to carry too many as back up apart from Gillesphey in that area…..I hope Zac Mitchell stays and is part of the first team squad as I think there is a player in there…. Fraser being an unused sub on Friday…..you wonder if things are going on in the background with Dundee hence both Fraser and the club not wanting to jeopardise a move by picking up a knock……..would imagine it would be a loan but at least we can save some of his wages…… |
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Post by jonkool on Jul 22, 2024 9:43:26 GMT
Gillesphey going nowhere, he's a good player and well thought of by the club. Had a very good game at Palace. Not sure why some fans have written him off. I remember that Plymouth fans rated him highly in tier 3. They confirmed that he lacked the necessary pace in tier 2 but his passing range out from the back was good and therefore he would do a good job for us in Div 1. As you say he performed well against Palace and I would keep him in the squad. |
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Post by bengland93 on Jul 22, 2024 9:43:35 GMT
Somewhat surprised that we’ve not heard much of Brendan Wiredu coming to us. Seemed to be a standout for Fleetwood last season (albeit they were relegated).
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Post by steve2707 on Jul 22, 2024 9:47:14 GMT
Somewhat surprised that we’ve not heard much of Brendan Wiredu coming to us. Seemed to be a standout for Fleetwood last season (albeit they were relegated). Just a thought, but as we had him, and released him, maybe he doesn't want to come back? Not every player uses the "unfinished business" cliche. |
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Post by bexleyboy on Jul 22, 2024 9:51:19 GMT
Somewhat surprised that we’ve not heard much of Brendan Wiredu coming to us. Seemed to be a standout for Fleetwood last season (albeit they were relegated). Just a thought, but as we had him, and released him, maybe he doesn't want to come back? Not every player uses the "unfinished business" cliche. Just maybe we are shopping at a different level now .. |
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Post by bengland93 on Jul 22, 2024 9:54:25 GMT
Just a thought, but as we had him, and released him, maybe he doesn't want to come back? Not every player uses the "unfinished business" cliche. Just maybe we are shopping at a different level now .. I’m a creature of habit and clearly used to us not searching for quality acquisitions 😂 |
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Post by aaronaldo on Jul 22, 2024 12:00:58 GMT
Just maybe we are shopping at a different level now .. I’m a creature of habit and clearly used to us not searching for quality acquisitions 😂 Getting the majority of our business done early has made the middle of the window very boring. We're just getting started about now normally! How can I have a meltdown when we only have a few signings left to make, many of which are likely already with us. I would like us to keep an eye on the loan market though. We definitely won't be relying on loans to make or break our season this year, but if we can target the real top end loan(s) then they could really kick us up a level. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 22, 2024 12:32:06 GMT
I’m a creature of habit and clearly used to us not searching for quality acquisitions 😂 Getting the majority of our business done early has made the middle of the window very boring. We're just getting started about now normally! How can I have a meltdown when we only have a few signings left to make, many of which are likely already with us. I would like us to keep an eye on the loan market though. We definitely won't be relying on loans to make or break our season this year, but if we can target the real top end loan(s) then they could really kick us up a level. This might well be the case but does anyone else feel increasingly underwhelmed when we see good players going to other L1 clubs. We have definitely improved last season's squad but not sufficiently enough for promotion I don't think. I like what we are building but I think we need to go into finer detail with the last few positions we are trying to fill rather than add free agents. When I say finer detail I mean just that extra bit of quality, players like Jon McAtee for example who is a 9 or a 10. I still don't think we are anywhere near top 6. Still relying on youngsters and injury prone players not breaking down. |
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Post by ExeterAddick on Jul 22, 2024 12:36:48 GMT
Getting the majority of our business done early has made the middle of the window very boring. We're just getting started about now normally! How can I have a meltdown when we only have a few signings left to make, many of which are likely already with us. I would like us to keep an eye on the loan market though. We definitely won't be relying on loans to make or break our season this year, but if we can target the real top end loan(s) then they could really kick us up a level. This might well be the case but does anyone else feel increasingly underwhelmed when we see good players going to other L1. We have definitely improved last season's squad but not sufficiently enough for promotion I don't think. I like what we are building but I think we need to go into finer detail with the last few positions we are trying to fill rather than add free agents. When I say finer detail I mean just that extra bit of quality, players like Jon McAtee for example who is a 9 or a 10. I still don't think we are anywhere near top 6. Still relying on youngsters and injury prone players not breaking down. Agree with this. I'm hopeful that the likes of Mannion, Mitchell, Docherty and Berry will be a step up on the players we had in those positions last season, but I'm still yet to be convinced that we've replaced the goals and creativity of May and CBT. If we can get an injection of goals and pace through our final four or five signings, I think we'll have a good crack at the top six minimum. |
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Post by herewego on Jul 22, 2024 12:39:40 GMT
I think each position has been improved but we are 100% relying on no breakdowns as the cover and different options are not there yet. We will be found out pretty quickly in this 3-5-2 formation. I think we are missing some pace to get us up the pitch CBT style.
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Post by aaronaldo on Jul 22, 2024 12:41:02 GMT
Getting the majority of our business done early has made the middle of the window very boring. We're just getting started about now normally! How can I have a meltdown when we only have a few signings left to make, many of which are likely already with us. I would like us to keep an eye on the loan market though. We definitely won't be relying on loans to make or break our season this year, but if we can target the real top end loan(s) then they could really kick us up a level. This might well be the case but does anyone else feel increasingly underwhelmed when we see good players going to other L1. We have definitely improved last season's squad but not sufficiently enough for promotion I don't think. I like what we are building but I think we need to go into finer detail with the last few positions we are trying to fill rather than add free agents. When I say finer detail I mean just that extra bit of quality, players like Jon McAtee for example who is a 9 or a 10. I still don't think we are anywhere near top 6. Still relying on youngsters and injury prone players not breaking down. Yeah we definitely need to sign quality in the final positions we need. I'm more than happy with Potts for CB personally. Bishop looks to be useful as well. I would love a McAtee, but not sure we're really looking at that role. We may just be going more industrious in the midfield. I'm not convinced we're looking for a 10, but I hope I'm wrong on that. If we can get a quality GK then I'm reasonably comfortable. We've come a long way from where we were. I'm not sure we could solve everything without a Birmingham / Ipswich type approach. I think we will have a promotion chasing squad for last season. Whether that's enough this season is another thing. Unless Birmingham screw up massively, they surely have an automatic spot. The other automatic spot is going to be very difficult. This season for me would be play-offs at best I reckon. |
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Post by clarky on Jul 22, 2024 13:11:39 GMT
Think part of our problem at the moment is shipping players out. We all know that there will and needs to be outgoings but they aren't happening very quickly. Once they do perhaps we might see some incoming movement outside the freebies we seem to be currently looking at.
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Post by bengland93 on Jul 22, 2024 14:04:26 GMT
Think part of our problem at the moment is shipping players out. We all know that there will and needs to be outgoings but they aren't happening very quickly. Once they do perhaps we might see some incoming movement outside the freebies we seem to be currently looking at. This is clearly the key reason why transfers have dried up. Though I do think that we are building the foundations to a competitive squad and reckon we will be “Top 2” contenders after this season. At a push we may get play offs this year however looking at Birmingham for instance, they are in deep trouble if they don’t get promoted this season with the money they are spending. I’ve said this before but we will be focused on tactics getting us results rather than having a better quality 11 on the pitch. Also have to remember that we have players such as Fraser and Aneke who are our highest earners but will leave when their contracts expire next year. Think we have one more season where we need to clear up the lasting remnants of the mismanagement of the club from the past few years. |
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Post by roumen012 on Jul 22, 2024 14:04:50 GMT
Any rumour on any decent player?
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Post by chertseyaddick on Jul 22, 2024 16:20:56 GMT
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Post by lcse71991 on Jul 22, 2024 16:42:31 GMT
Any rumour on any decent player? Would love to see another keeper come in soon… I know NJ mentioned we’re still looking for another but it’s gone quiet. Ideally you want them in pre season to start building that rapport with the defence. If not then maybe Mannion will be number 1 come Wigan away. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jul 22, 2024 16:56:56 GMT
Bradley Dack is an interesting one….apparently having talks with Gillingham…..surely he is still too good for league two…..If we can’t land players like Macatee would he be an alternative option worth considering, still only 30…..only 16 games last year at Sunderland but not sure if this was due to injuries or not being quite good enough at Championship level….
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Post by reddan12 on Jul 22, 2024 17:15:19 GMT
Bradley Dack is an interesting one….apparently having talks with Gillingham…..surely he is still too good for league two…..If we can’t land players like Macatee would he be an alternative option worth considering, still only 30…..only 16 games last year at Sunderland but not sure if this was due to injuries or not being quite good enough at Championship level…. Definitely not. Him in workman like team will not work at all. He can't play as a number 8 and can't press and picked up lots of injuries in the last few years and few bad ones that he never recovered from unfortunately because the way he was playing before he got injured he would of went on to play in premier league. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 22, 2024 17:28:29 GMT
Dear me, just been sent a post from the geezer who we got rid of on here for his anti-Semitism and his hatred towards Jews.
Remarkable isn't it.
All that talk about doing business early and getting 7 or 8 quality signings...
Another load of horse-s**t, to sell a few more ST's.
Here we are again, hoping we don't sign the latest hopeless old man or serial crock whose name pops up on some forum somewhere.
Feel familiar?
#1042
lardiman, Today at 10:18 AM
The fella is totally unhinged.
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Post by sevenoaks on Jul 22, 2024 17:34:38 GMT
Dear me, just been sent a post from the geezer who we got rid of on here for his anti-Semitism and his hatred towards Jews. Remarkable isn't it.
All that talk about doing business early and getting 7 or 8 quality signings...
Another load of horse-s**t, to sell a few more ST's.
Here we are again, hoping we don't sign the latest hopeless old man or serial crock whose name pops up on some forum somewhere.
Feel familiar?
#1042
lardiman, Today at 10:18 AMThe fella is totally unhinged. Perhaps he shouldn't keep moaning, perhaps he should just jog on, and support a team that meets his requirements.. |
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Post by bexleyboy on Jul 22, 2024 18:14:54 GMT
I think each position has been improved but we are 100% relying on no breakdowns as the cover and different options are not there yet. We will be found out pretty quickly in this 3-5-2 formation. I think we are missing some pace to get us up the pitch CBT style. No point having pace is you don’t do anything with it consistently when you get there …. Kanu and Campbell have pace if you need it .. we have experienced clever players like Godden and then the power and work horses like Adhame and Leaburn plus Aneke who in his day can turn games in a second .. add Bishop and Berry pushing on from midfield … think we’re in a good place |
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Post by kings hill addick on Jul 22, 2024 18:16:52 GMT
I think each position has been improved but we are 100% relying on no breakdowns as the cover and different options are not there yet. We will be found out pretty quickly in this 3-5-2 formation. I think we are missing some pace to get us up the pitch CBT style. No point having pace is you don’t do anything with it consistently when you get there …. Kanu and Campbell have pace if you need it .. we have experienced clever players like Godden and then the power and work horses like Adhame and Leaburn plus Aneke who in his day can turn games in a second .. add Bishop and Berry pushing on from midfield … think we’re in a good place Have we signed Bishop? Also, have we signed Potts? People keep talking about what they are going to do but if they have signed, I have missed it. |
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Post by bexleyboy on Jul 22, 2024 18:17:44 GMT
Any rumour on any decent player? Would love to see another keeper come in soon… I know NJ mentioned we’re still looking for another but it’s gone quiet. Ideally you want them in pre season to start building that rapport with the defence. If not then maybe Mannion will be number 1 come Wigan away. The window don’t shut for a while .. as Jones said the players there going after take longer to get over the line that shows the sort of players we are interested in |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 22, 2024 18:18:22 GMT
I think each position has been improved but we are 100% relying on no breakdowns as the cover and different options are not there yet. We will be found out pretty quickly in this 3-5-2 formation. I think we are missing some pace to get us up the pitch CBT style. No point having pace is you don’t do anything with it consistently when you get there …. Kanu and Campbell have pace if you need it .. we have experienced clever players like Godden and then the power and work horses like Adhame and Leaburn plus Aneke who in his day can turn games in a second .. add Bishop and Berry pushing on from midfield … think we’re in a good place Until we have goals in midfield we are not in a good place. We have experience in abundance in the middle of the park but we need different types of players to shake things up a bit and add the 15-20 goals from midfield that you need during a season. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 22, 2024 18:25:07 GMT
No point having pace is you don’t do anything with it consistently when you get there …. Kanu and Campbell have pace if you need it .. we have experienced clever players like Godden and then the power and work horses like Adhame and Leaburn plus Aneke who in his day can turn games in a second .. add Bishop and Berry pushing on from midfield … think we’re in a good place Have we signed Bishop? Also, have we signed Potts? People keep talking about what they are going to do but if they have signed, I have missed it. You would think NJ has seen enough of Bishop to have made his mind up by now to be honest. As for Potts he's played 30 minutes of football but Nathan does know what he can do from their Luton days. Think the longer it goes on the more unlikely it might be of them coming in. Maybe we have other irons in the fire but I hope we don't leave it to last minute with the trialists as it wouldn't suit us or the players involved to leave it until last minute before making a decision. because they might need to find another club and we need to find alternatives. |
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Post by Bexleyranger on Jul 22, 2024 18:27:03 GMT
Bradley Dack is an interesting one….apparently having talks with Gillingham…..surely he is still too good for league two…..If we can’t land players like Macatee would he be an alternative option worth considering, still only 30…..only 16 games last year at Sunderland but not sure if this was due to injuries or not being quite good enough at Championship level…. no no no!! Same as last year when our fans wanted him. He can barely play anymore and would be a massive stain on our wage bill. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Jul 22, 2024 18:30:27 GMT
I think each position has been improved but we are 100% relying on no breakdowns as the cover and different options are not there yet. We will be found out pretty quickly in this 3-5-2 formation. I think we are missing some pace to get us up the pitch CBT style. I wouldn’t say no to some more pace in midfield. However, we do have pace in the wingback areas which should allow the quick breakaways. I do like the idea of having a pacey CM though who can run with it. I just don’t think any good ones would be in our budget. I feel we may bypass them a little as well. Might be more direct than previously as we have Godden and Ahadme (Aneke and Miles when fit) who can all receive direct balls and hold up as necessary. |
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Post by clarky on Jul 22, 2024 19:01:02 GMT
No point having pace is you don’t do anything with it consistently when you get there …. Kanu and Campbell have pace if you need it .. we have experienced clever players like Godden and then the power and work horses like Adhame and Leaburn plus Aneke who in his day can turn games in a second .. add Bishop and Berry pushing on from midfield … think we’re in a good place Until we have goals in midfield we are not in a good place. We have experience in abundance in the middle of the park but we need different types of players to shake things up a bit and add the 15-20 goals from midfield that you need during a season. This is my main concern with the players brought in so far. It is all very well saying we want goals spread across the park but currently I don't see much of that coming from our midfield. |
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Post by roumen012 on Jul 22, 2024 19:30:27 GMT
Until we have goals in midfield we are not in a good place. We have experience in abundance in the middle of the park but we need different types of players to shake things up a bit and add the 15-20 goals from midfield that you need during a season. This is my main concern with the players brought in so far. It is all very well saying we want goals spread across the park but currently I don't see much of that coming from our midfield. So the question is, why don’t we sign anyone like that? ( while others are doing so) Don’t know whether it’s on the money or on the players wanting other teams. |
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