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Post by norfolkrobin on Jul 22, 2024 19:36:01 GMT
Must be outgoings holding up our business? The signings so far look solid if not spectacular.
I trust NJ and his body of work,but the club seems a bit too proud of their business at present,seven good permanent signings yes agreed,and IF our first 11 stay fit we might push top 6.
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Post by 995632 on Jul 22, 2024 19:55:16 GMT
I think each position has been improved but we are 100% relying on no breakdowns as the cover and different options are not there yet. We will be found out pretty quickly in this 3-5-2 formation. I think we are missing some pace to get us up the pitch CBT style. I wouldn’t say no to some more pace in midfield. However, we do have pace in the wingback areas which should allow the quick breakaways. I do like the idea of having a pacey CM though who can run with it. I just don’t think any good ones would be in our budget. I feel we may bypass them a little as well. Might be more direct than previously as we have Godden and Ahadme (Aneke and Miles when fit) who can all receive direct balls and hold up as necessary. Bishop is quite good at dribbling and driving with the ball. I repeated a few things of the Lincoln guy said about him and people had the hump because Appleton had an opinion on him... It sounds like he might be a good signing as he would bring something different to what we currently have in the squad. "deployed in midfield... it’s coincided with his apparent return to form. It’s crazy because, looking back at his dribble stats, he’s clearly been great on the ball throughout his time here, and that hasn’t changed. His dribble success is actually down this season – 62%, but he’s still 25th in the division and the top dribbler on our books." |
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Post by tonykit on Jul 22, 2024 21:35:28 GMT
I think Bishop would have been released by now if we were not interested unless NJ wants to be sure he is injury free.
Btw anyone know if Bailkovski has retired as despite his age he is a decent keeper.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 22, 2024 22:07:36 GMT
Somebody like Joe Lumley on-loan from Southampton would work I think.
Not a bad keeper.
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Post by herewego on Jul 22, 2024 23:08:42 GMT
Do we really need another goalkeeper. Our defence is a lot stronger which might take the pressure of the current goalkeepers perhaps Mannion will be given a go which frees up money for an attacking player.
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Post by tonykit on Jul 22, 2024 23:26:48 GMT
Judging by NJ's interest in Ruddy, Davies and Walton, he would seem to recognise that a top class keeper is an absolute necessity to launch an assault on promotion this season. He may have to lower his ambitions a little and maybe bring someone in on loan.
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Post by lcse71991 on Jul 23, 2024 6:22:43 GMT
Somebody like Joe Lumley on-loan from Southampton would work I think. Not a bad keeper. I’ve not been that impressed when I’ve watched him play at Preston a few seasons back. I think there are much better options out there. I liked the look of Hladký after he was released by Ipswich but he’s just signed for Burnley. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jul 23, 2024 7:29:29 GMT
NJ previously said he would only take loans in if they were an improvement on the players he already had, I wonder if the lack of confirmed news about Bishop and a new keeper coming in is down to us waiting on some confirm PL loan players……..You would have thought that if Jones definitely wanted Bishop it would have been confirmed by now…….maybe the club is hedging their bets somewhat…..
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 23, 2024 8:03:14 GMT
Judging by NJ's interest in Ruddy, Davies and Walton, he would seem to recognise that a top class keeper is an absolute necessity to launch an assault on promotion this season. He may have to lower his ambitions a little and maybe bring someone in on loan. Walton started in the Ipswich v Shakhtar Donersk friendly last weekend. He won't be coming to us. |
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Post by Tom1982 on Jul 23, 2024 8:09:31 GMT
League one keepers don’t appear to be up to much and with the Amos, MacGillivray and Isted signings in the past few season we’ve tried to go for top league one keepers. Definitely hasn’t worked. Maybe time for a loan.
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Post by grapevine49 on Jul 23, 2024 8:10:42 GMT
You must know better than I - it seems a very difficult market for finding a front line keeper this year. I had noted the Villa keeper who was at Exeter last year but a £1.2m fee in moving Celtic was a surprise. Walton seems a good fit for us but I suspect there are at least half a dozen clubs some in the Championship who would say the same. Derby it seems have just lined up a guy from Sweden for £500k. In truth it is a major disappointment Maynard-Brewer who promised so much has settled into an unforeseen level of mediocrity while Isted who was at Luton with Jones does not present as his style of keeper at all.
Beyond Walton if we are looking for a grown up there is Bentley at Wolves, Button at Reading. Bonham at Stoke and indeed Lumley at Soton. I like Lumley (though I am not sure of his consistency) but am intrigued by the other keeper competing with him at Soton - Mateusz Lis. Hé spent a season on loan as the No 1 helping Göztepe (who we recently played) getting promoted in Turkey. Not sure after a full season as a starter he will want to spend a season competing with Lumley for the No 2 spot.
I sincerely hope Jones and crew have their eyes on the target.
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jul 23, 2024 8:30:24 GMT
Have we signed Bishop? Also, have we signed Potts? People keep talking about what they are going to do but if they have signed, I have missed it. You would think NJ has seen enough of Bishop to have made his mind up by now to be honest. As for Potts he's played 30 minutes of football but Nathan does know what he can do from their Luton days. Think the longer it goes on the more unlikely it might be of them coming in. Maybe we have other irons in the fire but I hope we don't leave it to last minute with the trialists as it wouldn't suit us or the players involved to leave it until last minute before making a decision. because they might need to find another club and we need to find alternatives. The Bishop situation is a strange one because if NJ hasn’t offered him a contract his agent will be touting him to different clubs and surely after being on trial for this long without a confirmed decision he possibly won’t be feeling that great about signing for us……Maybe NJ is just hedging his bets and seeing if we can shift Fraser and possibly Edun and then seeing if his first choice loan options come in first…….. I get the feeling that the Potts situation is a bit different in the fact that if he wants to join us he will sign as he has nothing to prove to NJ other than his long term fitness I do though agree with the posters on here who think at present we are are still short squad wise of being top 6……Not enough goals in the side at present especially in the middle of the park…..I think we will play better football this year and be more competitive but unless we bring in a few more goal scoring options we will just be a WIP this season……. |
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Post by reddan12 on Jul 23, 2024 10:01:43 GMT
Somebody like Joe Lumley on-loan from Southampton would work I think. Not a bad keeper. Hope not one of the worst goalkeepers I have seen at championship level. How he got another championship move after middlesbrough I will never know. Terrible decision making in distribution, indecisive in command he's boxs and witch leads to chos witch leads to players having no confidence in him and inconsistent shot stopper. I hope to god we don't bring him in. |
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Post by reddan12 on Jul 23, 2024 10:03:36 GMT
You must know better than I - it seems a very difficult market for finding a front line keeper this year. I had noted the Villa keeper who was at Exeter last year but a £1.2m fee in moving Celtic was a surprise. Walton seems a good fit for us but I suspect there are at least half a dozen clubs some in the Championship who would say the same. Derby it seems have just lined up a guy from Sweden for £500k. In truth it is a major disappointment Maynard-Brewer who promised so much has settled into an unforeseen level of mediocrity while Isted who was at Luton with Jones does not present as his style of keeper at all. Beyond Walton if we are looking for a grown up there is Bentley at Wolves, Button at Reading. Bonham at Stoke and indeed Lumley at Soton. I like Lumley (though I am not sure of his consistency) but am intrigued by the other keeper competing with him at Soton - Mateusz Lis. Hé spent a season on loan as the No 1 helping Göztepe (who we recently played) getting promoted in Turkey. Not sure after a full season as a starter he will want to spend a season competing with Lumley for the No 2 spot. I sincerely hope Jones and crew have their eyes on the target. Bentley is most likely going to Arsenal. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 23, 2024 11:00:38 GMT
You must know better than I - it seems a very difficult market for finding a front line keeper this year. I had noted the Villa keeper who was at Exeter last year but a £1.2m fee in moving Celtic was a surprise. Walton seems a good fit for us but I suspect there are at least half a dozen clubs some in the Championship who would say the same. Derby it seems have just lined up a guy from Sweden for £500k. In truth it is a major disappointment Maynard-Brewer who promised so much has settled into an unforeseen level of mediocrity while Isted who was at Luton with Jones does not present as his style of keeper at all. Beyond Walton if we are looking for a grown up there is Bentley at Wolves, Button at Reading. Bonham at Stoke and indeed Lumley at Soton. I like Lumley (though I am not sure of his consistency) but am intrigued by the other keeper competing with him at Soton - Mateusz Lis. Hé spent a season on loan as the No 1 helping Göztepe (who we recently played) getting promoted in Turkey. Not sure after a full season as a starter he will want to spend a season competing with Lumley for the No 2 spot. I sincerely hope Jones and crew have their eyes on the target. Great Post mate. I was looking at Premier League goalkeepers last night and Newcastle have SEVEN in their books! I mentioned David Button on here last week. Excellent against us at their place last season. His distribution is phenomenal. Doesn't miss much in the air either. |
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Jul 23, 2024 11:54:55 GMT
I was looking at Premier League goalkeepers last night and Newcastle have SEVEN in their books! I was looking at something similar re Championship keepers this morning and some clubs there are almost as overloaded. Middlesbrough, for example, have four senior keepers even after recently offloading one to Salford. Excluding their regular starter, they have Tom Glover (26, recently called up to the Australia senior side), Zach Hemming (24, 40+ SPL games for St Mirren last season) and Sol Brynn (23, 40+ L1 games for Orient last season). Having those three competing for one seat on a Championship bench is ridiculous, so surely some will be sold/loaned out. I've also been looking at 'invisible keepers' in the PL who might drop a division or two for regular game time. For example, Tom McGill, who has been part of the senior Canada squad for the last year (on the bench at Copa America etc). The 24 year old has been at Brighton for a decade but has never played for their first team. Apart from one game in League 2 (on loan at Crawley) and a couple of dozen non-league appearances, the guy has only been (and still is) playing for Brighton U21s. Surely someone hitting their prime and looking to be a starter for their national side needs to be playing adult not youth football? There look to be plenty of decent keepers out there - it's just that the big clubs are stockpiling most of them! |
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Post by paulgdownunder on Jul 23, 2024 12:50:29 GMT
Thanks for that I wondered where Tom Glover went to. After he had a good season with Melbourne City (of the City Group) Replaced by Jamie Young, and resigned for next season. Aging but in his day had a spell with ( Wycombe W. i believe?) in Div 1 There are some fine young GKs in the A League.Even the All Whites Kiwi GK who plays for Wellington Phoenix. We winge about our GKs but what i have seen they are behind some ,very school boy ,naiev defenders. Shocking. As a CB. i was sorry to see Curtis Good leave City after 7 years. He had a spell with Newcastle in the EPL Got injured then went back to OZ. Was good in the air and splaying long direct balls.A Fan fave
I see that Masnfield Town are not frightened to cast the net afar, like us who .just stick to the UK, They have. Karnu Baccus from W Sydney Wanderers in the A League. A MF who has played for the Socceroos.A good but average player.
I am in the greement with quite a few ,that there is still not enough fire power ,for goals yet,And that elusive goal scoreing MF, I was impressed .after watching the highlights of the Palace match, that we will be a truely competitive.team. And how . Campbell i think it was,didnt give up competing for the ball, even when on the deck, and amongst the Palace defenders Then broke out. and away Passed to our man,( ?) who hit the post
Our goal, to my mind ,was made from Karnu's skills, and how he controlled the ball, between 2 Palarse defenders ,and put the ball in the path of Chucks to blast home. And smart arses want to loan Karnu out-Really.? And if we are relying on Chucks for goals, each week.I fear he wont be scoreing again. for about another ten games IMO. Thats if he plays.Would be great if he proves me wrong
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 23, 2024 13:15:31 GMT
Thanks for that I wondered where Tom Glover went to. After he had a good season with Melbourne City (of the City Group) Replaced by Jamie Young, and resigned for next season. Aging but in his day had a spell with ( Wycombe W. i believe?) in Div 1 There are some fine young GKs in the A League.Even the All Whites Kiwi GK who plays for Wellington Phoenix. We winge about our GKs but what i have seen they are behind some ,very school boy ,naiev defenders. Shocking. As a CB. i was sorry to see Curtis Good leave City after 7 years. He had a spell with Newcastle in the EPL Got injured then went back to OZ. Was good in the air and splaying long direct balls.A Fan fave I see that Masnfield Town are not frightened to cast the net afar, like us who .just stick to the UK, They have. Karnu Baccus from W Sydney Wanderers in the A League. A MF who has played for the Socceroos.A good but average player. I am in the greement with quite a few ,that there is still not enough fire power ,for goals yet,And that elusive goal scoreing MF, I was impressed .after watching the highlights of the Palace match, that we will be a truely competitive.team. And how . Campbell i think it was,didnt give up competing for the ball, even when on the deck, and amongst the Palace defenders Then broke out. and away Passed to our man,( ?) who hit the post Our goal, to my mind ,was made from Karnu's skills, and how he controlled the ball, between 2 Palarse defenders ,and put the ball in the path of Chucks to blast home. And smart arses want to loan Karnu out-Really.? And if we are relying on Chucks for goals, each week.I fear he wont be scoreing again. for about another ten games IMO. Thats if he plays.Would be great if he proves me wrong Why are people smart arses for wanting to see Kanu go out on loan? For all his running and hard work it is clear to see that technically he just isn't there yet. There's a reason why he went to Southend and two more why that was cut short. |
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Post by reddan12 on Jul 23, 2024 13:44:06 GMT
Thanks for that I wondered where Tom Glover went to. After he had a good season with Melbourne City (of the City Group) Replaced by Jamie Young, and resigned for next season. Aging but in his day had a spell with ( Wycombe W. i believe?) in Div 1 There are some fine young GKs in the A League.Even the All Whites Kiwi GK who plays for Wellington Phoenix. We winge about our GKs but what i have seen they are behind some ,very school boy ,naiev defenders. Shocking. As a CB. i was sorry to see Curtis Good leave City after 7 years. He had a spell with Newcastle in the EPL Got injured then went back to OZ. Was good in the air and splaying long direct balls.A Fan fave I see that Masnfield Town are not frightened to cast the net afar, like us who .just stick to the UK, They have. Karnu Baccus from W Sydney Wanderers in the A League. A MF who has played for the Socceroos.A good but average player. I am in the greement with quite a few ,that there is still not enough fire power ,for goals yet,And that elusive goal scoreing MF, I was impressed .after watching the highlights of the Palace match, that we will be a truely competitive.team. And how . Campbell i think it was,didnt give up competing for the ball, even when on the deck, and amongst the Palace defenders Then broke out. and away Passed to our man,( ?) who hit the post Our goal, to my mind ,was made from Karnu's skills, and how he controlled the ball, between 2 Palarse defenders ,and put the ball in the path of Chucks to blast home. And smart arses want to loan Karnu out-Really.? And if we are relying on Chucks for goals, each week.I fear he wont be scoreing again. for about another ten games IMO. Thats if he plays.Would be great if he proves me wrong Why are people smart arses for wanting to see Kanu go out on loan? For all his running and hard work it is clear to see that technically he just isn't there yet. There's a reason why he went to Southend and two more why that was cut short. Kanu won't be going out on loan and yes he has technically brake downs in he's game witch he can improve on. The main strength is he's pace and the runs he's makes witch none of our other cent forwards in the squad offer. That will be important in game where teams play a high lines as we saw last season against Derby and Bolton. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 23, 2024 14:43:06 GMT
Why are people smart arses for wanting to see Kanu go out on loan? For all his running and hard work it is clear to see that technically he just isn't there yet. There's a reason why he went to Southend and two more why that was cut short. Kanu won't be going out on loan and yes he has technically brake downs in he's game witch he can improve on. The main strength is he's pace and the runs he's makes witch none of our other cent forwards in the squad offer. That will be important in game where team play a high lines as we saw last season against Derby and Bolton. Ahadme and especially Godden have that in abundance. Not sure you can say otherwise without having seen them play. Ahadme is a fitness freak who runs everywhere. |
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Post by watameires on Jul 23, 2024 14:52:09 GMT
I like Kanu and expect him to play a fair bit again for us this year
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Post by reddan12 on Jul 23, 2024 15:27:34 GMT
Kanu won't be going out on loan and yes he has technically brake downs in he's game witch he can improve on. The main strength is he's pace and the runs he's makes witch none of our other cent forwards in the squad offer. That will be important in game where team play a high lines as we saw last season against Derby and Bolton. Ahadme and especially Godden have that in abundance. Not sure you can say otherwise without having seen them play. Ahadme is a fitness freak who runs everywhere. There are similarities and I have seen them play. They don't have the pace that Kanu has to stretch teams off the mark he beats both of them for paces. Ahadme wants the ball to feet and will run the channels he is a physical monster with great aerial ability. Where Godden is a finisher and will play on last line that is the perfect partnership. But Godden does not have that pace to stretch teams like Kanu does and we have see them benefits in the games where teams played a high line last season. I know they can all press that is the is key for anyone that plays up top in a Jones team. That's why Kanu won't be going out on loan but can learn things from someone like Godden who is a much more composed in front of goal. |
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Post by eric on Jul 23, 2024 15:31:18 GMT
I like Kanu and expect him to play a fair bit again for us this year Not many forwards work as hard as DK . He makes so many runs off defenders but many get unnoticed . Does lack a bit against physical league one defenders . Hope he doesn’t go out on loan . |
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Post by clarky on Jul 23, 2024 16:33:40 GMT
Kanu will improve but judging from last season he is a mid table to lower L1 player. Now I am not saying he won't have a part to play but he might be better upping his experience on loan. If things go to plan he would be our 4th choice striker, so perhaps not too much game time, but if things don't go to plan and he is involved in most games I am not convinced he is the answer to a promotion push.
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Post by Tom1982 on Jul 23, 2024 16:42:19 GMT
I can’t be the only one who thinks Kanu has nothing to offer surely? I just don’t see it with him at all.
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Post by aaronaldo on Jul 23, 2024 17:27:01 GMT
Kanu will improve but judging from last season he is a mid table to lower L1 player. Now I am not saying he won't have a part to play but he might be better upping his experience on loan. If things go to plan he would be our 4th choice striker, so perhaps not too much game time, but if things don't go to plan and he is involved in most games I am not convinced he is the answer to a promotion push. This for me. However, I don’t see us bringing in another striker so Kanu will be our 4th choice. He’s still quite raw for me. I’m not convinced he has the composure for finishing. I’ve not seen it yet anyways. I find he’s been quite fortunate with the goals he has scored for us. I feel he’s a ‘percentages finisher’. I.e. he’ll look to hit the target and hope the keeper doesn’t save it. Rather than pick the far reaches of the corners and really make it so the keeper couldn’t save it even if he wanted to. I never feel likes he’s completely under control when finishing. I might be reading into it too much. |
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Post by manikin on Jul 23, 2024 17:28:03 GMT
I think Kanu's speed could be an assist this year, especially with one or two around him like Ahadme who have speed to match.
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Post by reddan12 on Jul 23, 2024 18:03:38 GMT
Kanu will improve but judging from last season he is a mid table to lower L1 player. Now I am not saying he won't have a part to play but he might be better upping his experience on loan. If things go to plan he would be our 4th choice striker, so perhaps not too much game time, but if things don't go to plan and he is involved in most games I am not convinced he is the answer to a promotion push. This for me. However, I don’t see us bringing in another striker so Kanu will be our 4th choice. He’s still quite raw for me. I’m not convinced he has the composure for finishing. I’ve not seen it yet anyways. I find he’s been quite fortunate with the goals he has scored for us. I feel he’s a ‘percentages finisher’. I.e. he’ll look to hit the target and hope the keeper doesn’t save it. Rather than pick the far reaches of the corners and really make it so the keeper couldn’t save it even if he wanted to. I never feel likes he’s completely under control when finishing. I might be reading into it too much. This is bang on the money when the chances comes he lacks that composure he's movement and speed is excellent and gives him the edgy over defends. He definitely has some tacaltechnically break downs in he's game witch needs to improve. I would put him in the profile of a project player finisher but of course how do we improve that? I hope he can learn a lot from someone like Matt Godden and who is a finisher. If he can get that coldness in he's veins then he will go right to the top. But it may take time because it might be a coming of age thing but he's movement will mean he will always get chances and playing with a more physical forward will help him if that Ahadme,Leaburn or Aneke. |
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Post by addickryan on Jul 23, 2024 18:42:41 GMT
Button really? Has been disliked at his last two clubs and is on a massive down trend. Would rather get a prem loan imo
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jul 23, 2024 18:55:51 GMT
Kanu will improve but judging from last season he is a mid table to lower L1 player. Now I am not saying he won't have a part to play but he might be better upping his experience on loan. If things go to plan he would be our 4th choice striker, so perhaps not too much game time, but if things don't go to plan and he is involved in most games I am not convinced he is the answer to a promotion push. This for me. However, I don’t see us bringing in another striker so Kanu will be our 4th choice. He’s still quite raw for me. I’m not convinced he has the composure for finishing. I’ve not seen it yet anyways. I find he’s been quite fortunate with the goals he has scored for us. I feel he’s a ‘percentages finisher’. I.e. he’ll look to hit the target and hope the keeper doesn’t save it. Rather than pick the far reaches of the corners and really make it so the keeper couldn’t save it even if he wanted to. I never feel likes he’s completely under control when finishing. I might be reading into it too much. Would be absolutely ideal if we could bring in someone who could play both roles, CF and number 10 when we change formations…. |
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