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Post by tonyshootersbull on Jul 21, 2024 6:54:20 GMT
I put on here weeks ago hylton was coming in as a coach/back up striker if injuries.
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jul 21, 2024 7:14:44 GMT
I put on here weeks ago hylton was coming in as a coach/back up striker if injuries. Good for you fella, a good shout which looks like is happening…👍….and pleased that no one called you out as stupid when you posted it…..🤔🤔 |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2024 7:18:51 GMT
Danny Hylton will not be signing. You believe everything you read on CL? Oh yeah and how is Chucks doing? Still limping? You seem very angry, calm down. I didn’t hear about Danny Hylton on CL it came from another source. The Chucks thing came from a poster on Twitter. The title of this thread is rumours. Not everything people, not just me, post turns out to be accurate. Why you feel the need to have a go at me for posting some rumours is beyond me. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 21, 2024 9:23:02 GMT
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Post by redplanet on Jul 21, 2024 14:10:37 GMT
You believe everything you read on CL? Oh yeah and how is Chucks doing? Still limping? You seem very angry, calm down. I didn’t hear about Danny Hylton on CL it came from another source. The Chucks thing came from a poster on Twitter. The title of this thread is rumours. Not everything people, not just me, post turns out to be accurate. Why you feel the need to have a go at me for posting some rumours is beyond me. The title of the thread is "Transfer" rumours. Colin gets pelters for doing what you are doing, why should you be exempt? |
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Post by aaronaldo on Jul 21, 2024 14:56:22 GMT
Let’s keep it civil people.
My gut feeling is we will see some people leaving the club this week. Not ITK, just feel like it will stay to move over the next week or two.
Then it should be interesting again!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2024 16:18:51 GMT
You seem very angry, calm down. I didn’t hear about Danny Hylton on CL it came from another source. The Chucks thing came from a poster on Twitter. The title of this thread is rumours. Not everything people, not just me, post turns out to be accurate. Why you feel the need to have a go at me for posting some rumours is beyond me. The title of the thread is "Transfer" rumours. Colin gets pelters for doing what you are doing, why should you be exempt? Doing what I am doing? What posting rumours on a thread devoted to rumours? I am just repeating what I have been told and what I have seen on Twitter. This is not the first time you have had a go at me. I notice you don’t have a go at other posters when their RUMOURS don’t come to fruition. If you don’t like what I post put me on ignore. Strange. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 21, 2024 16:31:50 GMT
The title of the thread is "Transfer" rumours. Colin gets pelters for doing what you are doing, why should you be exempt? Doing what I am doing? What posting rumours on a thread devoted to rumours? I am just repeating what I have been told and what I have seen on Twitter. This is not the first time you have had a go at me. I notice you don’t have a go at other posters when their RUMOURS don’t come to fruition. If you don’t like what I post put me on ignore. Strange. I don't understand how Hylton not signing is a rumour? You could say he was only ever on trial. That said it's wrong anyway. The last info I had was he's coming in to be a coach while being registered as a player which is a good idea should Chuks breakdown or Miles takes longer than expected. Having Hylton available to fill in when the window will be closed to do anything about scenario is a no brainer. Last time that happened all the pressure was put on Kanu to step up very quickly and earlier than anyone would have liked. Should something similar occur again, we'll have that base covered. |
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Jul 21, 2024 17:23:04 GMT
How would Hylton's wages work for SCMP if he's with is both as a coach and registered player? I'm interested to know what specific rules apply in such cases, given players' wages are subject to a 60% of turnover cap, whilst there's no cap on coach wages.
Would his salary be split proportionately between player and coach accounts and to what ratio? Or would there be some way his entire wage is on the coaching side, unless we 'activate him' as a player (to use US terminology) when we're short of striker options, for which period his entire wage would be on the players/SCMP side.
Just speculating here (as I have no idea of how the rules for player-coaches work) but I assume this will be a major factor in what sort of deal we do (or don't do) with Hylton.
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Post by chertseyaddick on Jul 21, 2024 17:55:21 GMT
Hylton signing is a rumour. Hylton signing as a coach is a rumour. Hylton signing as a player/ coach is a rumour. Hylton not signing at all is a rumour.
Can we stop trying to disprove rumours and wait until there are some facts to comment on.
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Post by aaronaldo on Jul 21, 2024 17:58:45 GMT
How would Hylton's wages work for SCMP if he's with is both as a coach and registered player? I'm interested to know what specific rules apply in such cases, given players' wages are subject to a 60% of turnover cap, whilst there's no cap on coach wages. Would his salary be split proportionately between player and coach accounts and to what ratio? Or would there be some way his entire wage is on the coaching side, unless we 'activate him' as a player (to use US terminology) when we're short of striker options, for which period his entire wage would be on the players/SCMP side. Just speculating here (as I have no idea of how the rules for player-coaches work) but I assume this will be a major factor in what sort of deal we do (or don't do) with Hylton. Didn’t Derby use this loophole with Rooney? |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 21, 2024 18:18:58 GMT
How would Hylton's wages work for SCMP if he's with is both as a coach and registered player? I'm interested to know what specific rules apply in such cases, given players' wages are subject to a 60% of turnover cap, whilst there's no cap on coach wages. Would his salary be split proportionately between player and coach accounts and to what ratio? Or would there be some way his entire wage is on the coaching side, unless we 'activate him' as a player (to use US terminology) when we're short of striker options, for which period his entire wage would be on the players/SCMP side. Just speculating here (as I have no idea of how the rules for player-coaches work) but I assume this will be a major factor in what sort of deal we do (or don't do) with Hylton. Didn’t Derby use this loophole with Rooney? Yes, as previously stated above. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 21, 2024 18:20:57 GMT
Hylton signing is a rumour. Hylton signing as a coach is a rumour. Hylton signing as a player/ coach is a rumour. Hylton not signing at all is a rumour. Can we stop trying to disprove rumours and wait until there are some facts to comment on. I think the fact that he has played for us during pre-season and the comments NJ has made about his professionalism indicate that Hylton coming on board is far more than a rumour given the indication we have had so far. |
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Post by jacobearl99 on Jul 21, 2024 18:25:35 GMT
I reckon the departures will be Ness, Edun, Istead, Gillesphey on permanents and Mitchell, Fraser, Asiimwe out on loan. Surely has to give soon.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 21, 2024 18:42:01 GMT
Gillesphey going nowhere, he's a good player and well thought of by the club.
Had a very good game at Palace. Not sure why some fans have written him off.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2024 18:44:08 GMT
Until the announcement is on Official Channels it is a RUMOUR.
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Post by watameires on Jul 21, 2024 18:51:46 GMT
Gillesphey going nowhere, he's a good player and well thought of by the club. Had a very good game at Palace. Not sure why some fans have written him off. Not sure he’s shown it for us as yet |
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Post by Tom1982 on Jul 21, 2024 18:56:53 GMT
I like the balance Gillesphey brings. After watching that madness during the euros I can’t stand the thought of watching right footers on the left and so on. Hope to see Edwards, Small and Gillesphey all in the side.
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Post by ExeterAddick on Jul 21, 2024 19:02:03 GMT
If we're going to play with three centre backs all season then we need five good ones on the books. Ideally six.
I don't rate Gillesphey enough to want him as first choice necessarily, but I think he merits a place in the squad
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Post by steve2707 on Jul 21, 2024 19:03:46 GMT
Gillesphey going nowhere, he's a good player and well thought of by the club. Had a very good game at Palace. Not sure why some fans have written him off. Not sure he’s shown it for us as yet My view is, you need 2 players for each position. If NJ has decided 3-5-2, you need 2 LCBs. If we sign Dan Potts, that will mean he and Gillesphey are the 2. I know we signed Edwards, but I assume he and Small will be the 2 vying for LWB. I know that Edwards has been tried at LCB, but that was before Potts was on the scene. Also, REG has been tried there. So, can I see Edun going? Possibly. But he has been tried in midfield so far in pre-season. And as has been said,many times. It's not the first 11 that gets you through the season, it's the squad... |
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Post by cafcginge on Jul 21, 2024 19:21:16 GMT
I think most will be revealed about trialists and the squad come Wimbledon since players will surely get more minutes if they are favoured as we near the season. So if the likes of Potts and bishop start and get the majority of minutes it will look like they are likely to sign. Also whilst we obviously can’t play the full squad in the game, seeing who is missing from the lineup and bench could be a slight indication aswell.
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Post by bexleyboy on Jul 21, 2024 20:01:05 GMT
I reckon the departures will be Ness, Edun, Istead, Gillesphey on permanents and Mitchell, Fraser, Asiimwe out on loan. Surely has to give soon. Gillesphey a very good player |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 21, 2024 20:42:15 GMT
Until the announcement is on Official Channels it is a RUMOUR. Call it whatever you want, whatever floats your boat. The rest of us will see it for what it is without having to be so pendantic. A rumour is a currently circulating story or report of uncertain or doubtful truth. You cannot associate any of those words or the sentence itself with the fact that Danny Hylton has played for us more than once during pre-season. Whether he signs or not remains to be seen but either way it's not a rumour is it, it's more a case of whether all parties are happy with the arrangement on the table. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 21, 2024 20:43:18 GMT
Gillesphey going nowhere, he's a good player and well thought of by the club. Had a very good game at Palace. Not sure why some fans have written him off. Not sure he’s shown it for us as yet All the more reason not to write him off then. |
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Jul 21, 2024 21:14:02 GMT
Best thing about the dodgy freebie stream (with no commentary) of the game in Slovenia was learning in between NJ's swearing what the players are actually called by him and the rest of the squad: Mitch, Doc, Bez, TC and so on. Gillesphey is Macca.
He seems to be the best CB we have in terms of passing long from the back. I don't think Potts (if signed) if his replacement, just the other option there. In an ideal world (with no injuries etc) you could pick between two decent but somewhat different LCBs based upon what the team you're facing are likely to do offensively down their right.
So many people seem to not get how much of a squad game (in this era of 11 starters + 7 subs + five or more injured or suspended) modern football is. I can't see us getting rid of Macca or REG. Ness will go of course, but playing 3-5-2 with wingbacks you need 10-12 defenders (including the wide ones) and there's a lot more squad space than people seem to think.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 21, 2024 21:26:13 GMT
Best thing about the dodgy freebie stream (with no commentary) of the game in Slovenia was learning in between NJ's swearing what the players are actually called by him and the rest of the squad: Mitch, Doc, Bez, TC and so on. Gillesphey is Macca. He seems to be the best CB we have in terms of passing long from the back. I don't think Potts (if signed) if his replacement, just the other option there. In an ideal world (with no injuries etc) you could pick between two decent but somewhat different LCBs based upon what the team you're facing are likely to do offensively down their right. So many people seem to not get how much of a squad game (in this era of 11 starters + 7 subs + five or more injured or suspended) modern football is. I can't see us getting rid of Macca or REG. Ness will go of course, but playing 3-5-2 with wingbacks you need 10-12 defenders (including the wide ones) and there's a lot more squad space than people seem to think. Personally, I think something is amiss with REG, something just isn't adding up. I know NJ has come out and said he has a few muscular issues but he hasn't played at all during pre-season and it does make you wonder if there are any other underlying factors. We all seem to think one more CB will come in but I just don't see that happening unless one of the current CB's are sacrificed. |
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Post by geronimo on Jul 21, 2024 22:16:16 GMT
Best thing about the dodgy freebie stream (with no commentary) of the game in Slovenia was learning in between NJ's swearing what the players are actually called by him and the rest of the squad: Mitch, Doc, Bez, TC and so on. Gillesphey is Macca. He seems to be the best CB we have in terms of passing long from the back. I don't think Potts (if signed) if his replacement, just the other option there. In an ideal world (with no injuries etc) you could pick between two decent but somewhat different LCBs based upon what the team you're facing are likely to do offensively down their right. So many people seem to not get how much of a squad game (in this era of 11 starters + 7 subs + five or more injured or suspended) modern football is. I can't see us getting rid of Macca or REG. Ness will go of course, but playing 3-5-2 with wingbacks you need 10-12 defenders (including the wide ones) and there's a lot more squad space than people seem to think. Personally, I think something is amiss with REG, something just isn't adding up. I know NJ has come out and said he has a few muscular issues but he hasn't played at all during pre-season and it does make you wonder if there are any other underlying factors. We all seem to think one more CB will come in but I just don't see that happening unless one of the current CB's are sacrificed. REG played at Dartford 2nd half on the left of 3 CBs iirc |
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Post by watameires on Jul 21, 2024 23:44:12 GMT
Not sure he’s shown it for us as yet All the more reason not to write him off then. Not sure I follow your logic |
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Post by grapevine49 on Jul 22, 2024 0:45:32 GMT
I think the suggestion is there is more to come. Gillesphey has started just 12 games so far. He had two very successful seasons in League 1 with Plymouth the 2nd seeing them promoted as Champions. He regularly featured as the Central Defender in the back 3. So I can well see A Mitchell, Gillesphey and Potts (if he joins) as the starting combination leaving Ramsay, REG, Jones, Z Mitchell and possibly Edwards to compete/ rotate/ support though I am not sure REG fits the Jones mould. Shame I quite like him.
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Post by lcse71991 on Jul 22, 2024 5:44:32 GMT
I think the suggestion is there is more to come. Gillesphey has started just 12 games so far. He had two very successful seasons in League 1 with Plymouth the 2nd seeing them promoted as Champions. He regularly featured as the Central Defender in the back 3. So I can well see A Mitchell, Gillesphey and Potts (if he joins) as the starting combination leaving Ramsay, REG, Jones, Z Mitchell and possibly Edwards to compete/ rotate/ support though I am not sure REG fits the Jones mould. Shame I quite like him. Ramsay and Small will start as wing backs. Then I imagine we’d see Lloyd Jones, A Mitchell and Potts as a back 3 although I know Edwards can play there too and he’s looked pretty sharp pre season. Good to have decent options in REG, Macca, T Watson, etc. Strength in depth is key and we’re building that this window. |
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