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Post by ExeterAddick on Jul 14, 2024 7:00:07 GMT
Ted Bishop? No he f***ing isn't. (I feel I can swear as Nathan Jones did throughout today's first half before they moved the camera/mic/NJ for the second half to save the children's ears.) Who told you he was injury prone and why did you instantly believe them? Rather than (as I just have) spend literally 60 seconds checking the stats online? Last season Bishop played 38 games (33 in the league). The season before he played 31 games (24 in the league). The season before that 42 games (36 in the league). The season before that one 38 games (36 in the league). Then I just gave up counting. Lincoln fans and Ipswich fans might call that injury prone. I call him (by Charlton standards) bloody Iron Man! I spent more than 60 seconds reading this article about his career and injury record, which admittedly does say that it's not as bad perceived, but still warrants several mentions. staceywest.net/2024/02/21/super-ted-the-rebirth-of-ted-bishop/ |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jul 14, 2024 7:12:50 GMT
Worst signing reveal ever. Have we officially signed him though? The first half team sheet which the official Charlton Comms sent out still shows him as a triallist |
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Post by bexleyboy on Jul 14, 2024 8:30:44 GMT
Ted Bishop? No he f***ing isn't. (I feel I can swear as Nathan Jones did throughout today's first half before they moved the camera/mic/NJ for the second half to save the children's ears.) Who told you he was injury prone and why did you instantly believe them? Rather than (as I just have) spend literally 60 seconds checking the stats online? Last season Bishop played 38 games (33 in the league). The season before he played 31 games (24 in the league). The season before that 42 games (36 in the league). The season before that one 38 games (36 in the league). Then I just gave up counting. Lincoln fans and Ipswich fans might call that injury prone. I call him (by Charlton standards) bloody Iron Man! We can only sign cheaper players now as budget gone on previous seven?. Shut up |
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Post by bexleyboy on Jul 14, 2024 8:31:49 GMT
Hope we have signed Bishop decent player at this level shown enough in the first two to get a squad place ..
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Post by clarky on Jul 14, 2024 9:43:11 GMT
Hope we have signed Bishop decent player at this level shown enough in the first two to get a squad place .. What we want are players that are better than we already have not squad fillers. If it means he comes in and we don't get a creative, attacking midfielder it is bad business. |
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Post by jacobearl99 on Jul 14, 2024 9:46:33 GMT
He was injured along with Fraser both had slight muscle injuries not worth risking Yes of course they were? Hardly going to say neither will be playing for us next season is he? could quite easily say that. REG is certainly in Jones plans. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 14, 2024 9:47:34 GMT
My point on Bishop is that I don't see him starting ahead of the likes of Berry and Docherty in an attacking sense or Coventry or Anderson Defensively.
Two midfielders left Lincoln at the same time, Bishop and Danny Mandroiu an Irish attacking midfielder with very good stats. He is the player I would have preferred because he has enough goals in him to challenge Docherty and Berry for their place. I don't see that with Bishop.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 14, 2024 9:50:58 GMT
Yes of course they were? Hardly going to say neither will be playing for us next season is he? could quite easily say that. REG is certainly in Jones plans. Not if we want to play hard to get to drive prices up. Besides no manager is going to write off a player publicly. What will that do for his confidence if no move happens? |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jul 14, 2024 9:51:59 GMT
Hope we have signed Bishop decent player at this level shown enough in the first two to get a squad place .. What we want are players that are better than we already have not squad fillers. If it means he comes in and we don't get a creative, attacking midfielder it is bad business. Completely agree, NJ stated at the end of the season that he was only targeting players that would be first team starters as in his words we already have enough squad fillers…….If he signs it would surely mean that one or more of our existing midfield squad fillers will be leaving…….you wonder how long Fraser’s unfortunate thigh injury will last🤔🤔 |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jul 14, 2024 9:56:26 GMT
Yes of course they were? Hardly going to say neither will be playing for us next season is he? could quite easily say that. REG is certainly in Jones plans. What makes you say REG is part of Jones plans?……NJ came out publicly and talked up Lloyd Jones recently but I don’t ever recall him talking about REG…….and let’s be honest here REG was overlooked for the majority of the end of the season for the likes of Thomas and Hector who NJ had clearly earmarked as surplus to requirements….. NJ likes his players big and physical hence the signing of Edward’s and Mitchell, REG doesn’t really fit into that category….. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 14, 2024 9:58:23 GMT
We were seriously after Caleb Taylor last season. He was our prime target but he went to Bolton on loan. I gave his name to Charlie in an email and I can assure you it was followed up, I even have the message back asking where I got my info on him from as we were very interested.
To my knowledge he is still at WBA so if he remains on our radar, which he must be if we rate him that highly, I can see us going back in for him.
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Post by steve2707 on Jul 14, 2024 9:58:50 GMT
My point on Bishop is that I don't see him starting ahead of the likes of Berry and Docherty in an attacking sense or Coventry or Anderson Defensively. Two midfielders left Lincoln at the same time, Bishop and Danny Mandroiu an Irish attacking midfielder with very good stats. He is the player I would have preferred because he has enough goals in him to challenge Docherty and Berry for their place. I don't see that with Bishop. My view on Bishop, (admittedly on only 45 minutes at Dartford) was that he did something none of our other midfielders did, which was run with the ball. Now, Doherty may also do that, as he didn't play against Dartford. Sometimes you won't be able to pass your way through defences, and in that case you need to be able to stitch together defence and attack. The best way to do that is by running with the ball. So, by definition, he brings something different. And even if Docherty can do it, we need back up, at least. And if NJ is happy, I'm happy. |
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Jul 14, 2024 10:52:43 GMT
The reason a lot of people assume Walton is no longer on the menu is down to Vaclav Hladky. Ipswich's #1 last season (he played every game) Hladky stunned Ipswich and their fans by turning down a lucrative new deal and is now a free agent. The thinking had been that Ipswich would sign a PL quality first choice keeper, Hladky would sit on the bench and Walton (now surplus to requirements) would move on. Unless Ipswich sign TWO PL quality keepers this summer, Walton will surely choose to remain sitting on the bench there (awaiting his chance in the PL) rather than dropping a division or two to be first choice. Hladky (perhaps proving what a silly idea turning down that Ipswich deal was) is still available btw, but he's 33 and I think most clubs (Charlton included) would prefer a younger first choice goalie. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 14, 2024 11:00:07 GMT
Walton has plenty of Championship interest so very unlikely that he will be coming to us anyway.
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Post by addickteduk on Jul 14, 2024 11:52:08 GMT
Walton has plenty of Championship interest so very unlikely that he will be coming to us anyway. Gutted but no surprises there - excellent keeper and the one signing I really hoped we could get! Any thoughts on other GKs we're likely to be interested in mate? |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 14, 2024 12:34:45 GMT
I like two of our former keepers actually. David Button who is now at Reading and Dimitar Mitov who plays at St. Johnstone.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 14, 2024 13:43:20 GMT
WBA have turned down £2M from Blackburn so I really can't see him being made available for a loan but who knows?
Hearts have new midfield targets lined up so not sure they will come back in for Fraser.
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Post by clarky on Jul 14, 2024 14:31:27 GMT
Worst signing reveal ever. looks like it has been taken down now. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jul 14, 2024 15:32:50 GMT
Worst signing reveal ever. looks like it has been taken down now. TBF I think the club would have made a bigger deal of this if he had officially signed…… |
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Post by aaronaldo on Jul 14, 2024 16:55:00 GMT
looks like it has been taken down now. TBF I think the club would have made a bigger deal of this if he had officially signed…… It wouldn’t be the first time a company has accidentally revealed something before the official reveal. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 14, 2024 20:02:34 GMT
I don't think we'll sign Bishop myself.
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Post by melrose555 on Jul 14, 2024 21:00:17 GMT
Jack Moylan is the midfield player I would prefer from Lincoln. Very creative and attacking. Failing that, then Mandrois
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jul 14, 2024 21:39:55 GMT
I don't think we'll sign Bishop myself. Is he any better than what we already have?….if the answer is no then we shouldn’t sign him……forget all the comments about him being a good potential squad player we need players good enough to be starters otherwise as NJ has said previously we have enough squad players already…. |
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Post by 995632 on Jul 14, 2024 23:12:23 GMT
I don't think we'll sign Bishop myself. Is he any better than what we already have?….if the answer is no then we shouldn’t sign him……forget all the comments about him being a good potential squad player we need players good enough to be starters otherwise as NJ has said previously we have enough squad players already…. Bishop would bring something to the midfield that we seem to be missing, he has generally been quite a good ball carrier. He also has apparently been played out of position a lot and not in his favoured AM spot. And no I'm not his agent or a family friend... From a Lincoln site: "perceived ineffectiveness, given how he was always played out of position, had me writing him off. I was convinced he’d be one who left through mutual consent, but he proved me wrong. Four games in, he had two goals and an assist and looked red hot. However, once again, he was played out of position – he got 23 minutes as a central attacking midfield from the bench against Northampton but was otherwise played out wide. He is not a winger. Michael Skubala coming in was a big moment because since then, he has only played out wide for two 30-minute spells. Otherwise, he’s been deployed in midfield, and it’s coincided with his apparent return to form. It’s crazy because, looking back at his dribble stats, he’s clearly been great on the ball throughout his time here, and that hasn’t changed. His dribble success is actually down this season – 62%, but he’s still 25th in the division and the top dribbler on our books." "He’s clearly frightening opponents now he’s in his preferred position – up to (and including) the Derby game, he’d been fouled 17 times – in his past four matches alone, he’s been fouled 13 times. Under Michael Skubala, he’s had 18 touches in the penalty area; under Mark Kennedy, he had six, and three of those came in the same game (Cheltenham). The outcome I’ve arrived at is this – we’re not just seeing the best of Ted Bishop now; we’re getting the best, and that’s a different thing altogether. I did a piece on the players I felt would be revitalised under our new Head Coach, and I didn’t pick Ted. Perhaps I was blinded to the rather indifferent form the autumnal months brought, blinded by the fact he wasn’t performing but ignoring him being out of position. One thing should never have been in doubt – a fit and firing Ted Bishop in his right position is a top-end League One, a borderline Championship player. Michael Appleton once said to me, ‘How Ted Bishop isn’t playing in the Championship, I’ll never know‘. Jimmy Walker waxed lyrical when he first signed, and we all hoped after an explosive August 2022 that we were going to see the best of him. It felt like a conundrum: how do you get the best out of Ted? It turns out that playing him in his favoured position was the all-too-simple answer." Could be useful to have a different type of midfielder in our squad. |
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Post by dittonaddick on Jul 15, 2024 8:24:21 GMT
Is he any better than what we already have?….if the answer is no then we shouldn’t sign him……forget all the comments about him being a good potential squad player we need players good enough to be starters otherwise as NJ has said previously we have enough squad players already…. Bishop would bring something to the midfield that we seem to be missing, he has generally been quite a good ball carrier. He also has apparently been played out of position a lot and not in his favoured AM spot. And no I'm not his agent or a family friend... From a Lincoln site: "perceived ineffectiveness, given how he was always played out of position, had me writing him off. I was convinced he’d be one who left through mutual consent, but he proved me wrong. Four games in, he had two goals and an assist and looked red hot. However, once again, he was played out of position – he got 23 minutes as a central attacking midfield from the bench against Northampton but was otherwise played out wide. He is not a winger. Michael Skubala coming in was a big moment because since then, he has only played out wide for two 30-minute spells. Otherwise, he’s been deployed in midfield, and it’s coincided with his apparent return to form. It’s crazy because, looking back at his dribble stats, he’s clearly been great on the ball throughout his time here, and that hasn’t changed. His dribble success is actually down this season – 62%, but he’s still 25th in the division and the top dribbler on our books." "He’s clearly frightening opponents now he’s in his preferred position – up to (and including) the Derby game, he’d been fouled 17 times – in his past four matches alone, he’s been fouled 13 times. Under Michael Skubala, he’s had 18 touches in the penalty area; under Mark Kennedy, he had six, and three of those came in the same game (Cheltenham). The outcome I’ve arrived at is this – we’re not just seeing the best of Ted Bishop now; we’re getting the best, and that’s a different thing altogether. I did a piece on the players I felt would be revitalised under our new Head Coach, and I didn’t pick Ted. Perhaps I was blinded to the rather indifferent form the autumnal months brought, blinded by the fact he wasn’t performing but ignoring him being out of position. One thing should never have been in doubt – a fit and firing Ted Bishop in his right position is a top-end League One, a borderline Championship player. Michael Appleton once said to me, ‘How Ted Bishop isn’t playing in the Championship, I’ll never know‘. Jimmy Walker waxed lyrical when he first signed, and we all hoped after an explosive August 2022 that we were going to see the best of him. It felt like a conundrum: how do you get the best out of Ted? It turns out that playing him in his favoured position was the all-too-simple answer." Could be useful to have a different type of midfielder in our squad. It was going so well... Apples also rated Fiorini and McGrandles |
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Post by addickteduk on Jul 15, 2024 9:51:27 GMT
Bishop would bring something to the midfield that we seem to be missing, he has generally been quite a good ball carrier. He also has apparently been played out of position a lot and not in his favoured AM spot. And no I'm not his agent or a family friend... From a Lincoln site: "perceived ineffectiveness, given how he was always played out of position, had me writing him off. I was convinced he’d be one who left through mutual consent, but he proved me wrong. Four games in, he had two goals and an assist and looked red hot. However, once again, he was played out of position – he got 23 minutes as a central attacking midfield from the bench against Northampton but was otherwise played out wide. He is not a winger. Michael Skubala coming in was a big moment because since then, he has only played out wide for two 30-minute spells. Otherwise, he’s been deployed in midfield, and it’s coincided with his apparent return to form. It’s crazy because, looking back at his dribble stats, he’s clearly been great on the ball throughout his time here, and that hasn’t changed. His dribble success is actually down this season – 62%, but he’s still 25th in the division and the top dribbler on our books." "He’s clearly frightening opponents now he’s in his preferred position – up to (and including) the Derby game, he’d been fouled 17 times – in his past four matches alone, he’s been fouled 13 times. Under Michael Skubala, he’s had 18 touches in the penalty area; under Mark Kennedy, he had six, and three of those came in the same game (Cheltenham). The outcome I’ve arrived at is this – we’re not just seeing the best of Ted Bishop now; we’re getting the best, and that’s a different thing altogether. I did a piece on the players I felt would be revitalised under our new Head Coach, and I didn’t pick Ted. Perhaps I was blinded to the rather indifferent form the autumnal months brought, blinded by the fact he wasn’t performing but ignoring him being out of position. One thing should never have been in doubt – a fit and firing Ted Bishop in his right position is a top-end League One, a borderline Championship player. Michael Appleton once said to me, ‘How Ted Bishop isn’t playing in the Championship, I’ll never know‘. Jimmy Walker waxed lyrical when he first signed, and we all hoped after an explosive August 2022 that we were going to see the best of him. It felt like a conundrum: how do you get the best out of Ted? It turns out that playing him in his favoured position was the all-too-simple answer." Could be useful to have a different type of midfielder in our squad. It was going so well... Apples also rated Fiorini and McGrandles Any Mention of Appleton immediately destroys all credibility!! |
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Post by bexleyboy on Jul 15, 2024 10:08:30 GMT
New GK signs
Charlton have completed the signing of academy goalkeeper Lennon MacLorg from Rochdale AFC.
MacLorg, who played seven games for the Addicks’ U18s at the end of last season, has now formally completed his move to the club.
The 18-year-old impressed with three clean sheets in his first four games for Jason Pearce’s side, and in joining Charlton signs his first professional deal
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Post by bexleyboy on Jul 15, 2024 14:51:19 GMT
Looks like Motherwell striker Blair who was heavily linked with us looks to be on his way to France 🇫🇷 Auxerre. According to BBC website
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Post by redplanet on Jul 15, 2024 14:51:48 GMT
Bishop would bring something to the midfield that we seem to be missing, he has generally been quite a good ball carrier. He also has apparently been played out of position a lot and not in his favoured AM spot. And no I'm not his agent or a family friend... From a Lincoln site: "perceived ineffectiveness, given how he was always played out of position, had me writing him off. I was convinced he’d be one who left through mutual consent, but he proved me wrong. Four games in, he had two goals and an assist and looked red hot. However, once again, he was played out of position – he got 23 minutes as a central attacking midfield from the bench against Northampton but was otherwise played out wide. He is not a winger. Michael Skubala coming in was a big moment because since then, he has only played out wide for two 30-minute spells. Otherwise, he’s been deployed in midfield, and it’s coincided with his apparent return to form. It’s crazy because, looking back at his dribble stats, he’s clearly been great on the ball throughout his time here, and that hasn’t changed. His dribble success is actually down this season – 62%, but he’s still 25th in the division and the top dribbler on our books." "He’s clearly frightening opponents now he’s in his preferred position – up to (and including) the Derby game, he’d been fouled 17 times – in his past four matches alone, he’s been fouled 13 times. Under Michael Skubala, he’s had 18 touches in the penalty area; under Mark Kennedy, he had six, and three of those came in the same game (Cheltenham). The outcome I’ve arrived at is this – we’re not just seeing the best of Ted Bishop now; we’re getting the best, and that’s a different thing altogether. I did a piece on the players I felt would be revitalised under our new Head Coach, and I didn’t pick Ted. Perhaps I was blinded to the rather indifferent form the autumnal months brought, blinded by the fact he wasn’t performing but ignoring him being out of position. One thing should never have been in doubt – a fit and firing Ted Bishop in his right position is a top-end League One, a borderline Championship player. Michael Appleton once said to me, ‘How Ted Bishop isn’t playing in the Championship, I’ll never know‘. Jimmy Walker waxed lyrical when he first signed, and we all hoped after an explosive August 2022 that we were going to see the best of him. It felt like a conundrum: how do you get the best out of Ted? It turns out that playing him in his favoured position was the all-too-simple answer." Could be useful to have a different type of midfielder in our squad. It was going so well... Apples also rated Fiorini and McGrandles That's comparing Apples to Joneses. Daft. |
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Post by dittonaddick on Jul 16, 2024 11:28:15 GMT
It was going so well... Apples also rated Fiorini and McGrandles That's comparing Apples to Joneses. Daft. I am just saying that the post was exciting until he started quoting Apples. I trust so little in his football knowledge that his endorsement is an immediate red flag for me. However, I trust in Jones' judgement. If Jones thinks he is good enough, I will back us bringing him in and console myself with the fact that even a stopped clock is correct twice a day. Apples might not be able to see why he isn't a Champ player already, but I reckon Jones will and will likely have a plan on how to get him to perform at that level. |
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