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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 21, 2024 20:07:00 GMT
From the conversation I have had, I believe MA is no longer our manager. Ignore the stick you are getting on other forums on this occasion. As more sensible posters have pointed out, the club wouldn’t exactly be disclosing confidential HR information to a local journalist.
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Post by petetongthereturn on Jan 21, 2024 20:07:09 GMT
I think we should go for an old head going to cost money. I not sure on Duff.
I’d also like either Bowyer or Powell to come back.
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Post by AndyB on Jan 21, 2024 20:08:55 GMT
From the conversation I have had, I believe MA is no longer our manager. Ignore the stick you are getting on other forums on this occasion. As more sensible posters have pointed out, the club wouldn’t exactly be disclosing confidential HR information to a local journalist. CL ?
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Post by 1978sussex on Jan 21, 2024 20:12:45 GMT
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Post by stu2020 on Jan 21, 2024 20:18:04 GMT
If RC is saying this then he’s def gone in the morning :-)
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Post by wellingaddick on Jan 21, 2024 20:35:54 GMT
The pre-match media should be interesting then!
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 21, 2024 20:38:51 GMT
From the conversation I have had, I believe MA is no longer our manager. Ignore the stick you are getting on other forums on this occasion. As more sensible posters have pointed out, the club wouldn’t exactly be disclosing confidential HR information to a local journalist. As I have said before Nick, what Charlton fans think of me is the last thing in the world that I would ever have on my mind. I was told MA is no longer with the club and shared it. I trust my source and have no reason to believe he has been fed false information. If he has, I can assure you that it's only temporarily so.
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Post by pardew123 on Jan 21, 2024 20:43:27 GMT
Put it this way if he’s still manager he won’t be for much longer he won’t be manager going forward
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 21, 2024 20:56:44 GMT
We also have to consider that the delay in announcing it is that Appleton hasn't yet taken his hands out of his pockets to sign the severance package!!
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Post by df3 on Jan 21, 2024 20:58:36 GMT
Ignore the stick you are getting on other forums on this occasion. As more sensible posters have pointed out, the club wouldn’t exactly be disclosing confidential HR information to a local journalist. As I have said before Nick, what Charlton fans think of me is the last thing in the world that I would ever have on my mind. I was told MA is no longer with the club and shared it. I trust my source and have no reason to believe he has been fed false information. If he has, I can assure you that it's only temporarily so theres been enough that Reams has said before thats been right for me to believe 100% hes gone. as you and many other point out there not gonna go out and say a comment until its official, lets see what tomorrow brings, the presser will be key. so we wil know for sure one way or the other for the non believers.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 21, 2024 21:25:09 GMT
A 6pm last night this title thread read, Appleton Out!
At 9pm I changed it to Appleton Out! (Going, Going, ****)
I did that because I had a message saying: 'I think he's gone'. Think, wasn't quite enough for me so I left it as it was overnight instead of changing it to Going, Going, Gone there and then.
Today's message just confirmed it and the change of thread title for a third time shows how confident I am that I have been passed accuarate information.
I don't think it will come out when MA was dismissed but I believe he woke up this morning out of a job.
If I am wrong and his ugly mug is doing the presser tomorrow I will hold my hands up....until around 9:55pm on Tuesday evening when we'll start all over again!
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Post by jwoodsboy on Jan 21, 2024 21:28:04 GMT
A 6pm last night this title thread read, Appleton Out! At 9pm I changed it to Appleton Out! (Going, Going, ****) I did that because I had a message saying: 'I think he's gone'. Think, wasn't quite enough for me so I left it as it was overnight instead of changing it to Going, Going, Gone there and then. Today's message just confirmed it and the change of thread title for a third time shows how confident I am that I have been passed accuarate information. I don't think it will come out when MA was dismissed but I believe he woke up this morning out of a job. If I am wrong and his ugly mug is doing the presser tomorrow I will hold my hands up....until around 9:55pm on Tuesday evening when we'll start all over again! The name you have been given reams as a potential new manager, have they ever been promoted out of league 1 as a manager ?
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 21, 2024 21:43:47 GMT
He hasn't mate but come very close despite the heoics of our goalkeeeper Harry Isted!
His and the other guys names have not been written in stone, they are just two that are expected to be in the frame as they have been mentioned.
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Post by jwoodsboy on Jan 21, 2024 21:45:24 GMT
He hasn't mate but come very close despite the heoics of our goalkeeeper Harry Isted! His and the other guys names have not been written in stone, they are just two that are expected to be in the frame as they have been mentioned. Michael Duff… Interesting, cheers as ever reams
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Post by jacobearl99 on Jan 21, 2024 21:47:50 GMT
What’s the plan going forward then. Get rid of Apples and try getting someone in short term to help us limp to the end of the season, or get a permanent solution going into preseason for next year. I struggle to see where this is ending up. I assume whoever is coming in will need to adopt the 3-5-2 formation and Duff fits the bill? But why would he come to us with the possibility of relegation. That sparks another conversation, what if? Relegation was certainly not in the new owners plans. This is a make or break decision really.
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jan 21, 2024 21:51:05 GMT
What’s the plan going forward then. Get rid of Apples and try getting someone in short term to help us limp to the end of the season, or get a permanent solution going into preseason for next year. I struggle to see where this is ending up. I assume whoever is coming in will need to adopt the 3-5-2 formation and Duff fits the bill? But why would he come to us with the possibility of relegation. That sparks another conversation, what if? Relegation was certainly not in the new owners plans. This is a make or break decision really. I think we would now be deemed to be a good club to join for any potential new manager, excellant facilities and very importantly word would now be out in the football world thst we have money to spend and that would ring a few bells for anyone coming in
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 21, 2024 21:51:13 GMT
He hasn't mate but come very close despite the heoics of our goalkeeeper Harry Isted! His and the other guys names have not been written in stone, they are just two that are expected to be in the frame as they have been mentioned. Michael Duff… Interesting, cheers as ever reams Didn't take much working out did it!! Made that one far too easy! One thing I will add is IF he comes in and given money to continue the squad rebuilding I would love him to sign Nicky Cadden for a second time. I was plugging his name on here 18 months ago saying he was on fire at Forest Green and was just what we needed. His Barnsley contract ends in the summer. Very tricky winger and a good player. As I say though, it's just speculation at the moment and his name in particular seems to be cropping up in several places. I'm sure there will be others with an interest in the job that we might want to take a look at.
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Post by pardew123 on Jan 21, 2024 21:53:51 GMT
I’d be confident we would stay up with a change of manager we probably need 4 wins and a couple of draws to stay up
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Post by jwoodsboy on Jan 21, 2024 21:53:57 GMT
Michael Duff… Interesting, cheers as ever reams Didn't take much working out did it!! Made that one far too easy! One thing I will add is IF he comes in and given money to continue the squad rebuilding I would love him to sign Nicky Cadden for a second time. I was plugging his name on here 18 months ago saying he was on fire at Forest Green and was just what we needed. His Barnsley contract ends in the summer. Very tricky winger and a good player. As I say though, it's just speculation at the moment and his name in particular seems to be cropping up in several places. I'm sure there will be others with an interest in the job that we might want to take a look at. Is Appleton is sacked, would you expect a new manager to be appointed before the end of the window?
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Post by norfolkrobin on Jan 21, 2024 21:54:35 GMT
What’s the plan going forward then. Get rid of Apples and try getting someone in short term to help us limp to the end of the season, or get a permanent solution going into preseason for next year. I struggle to see where this is ending up. I assume whoever is coming in will need to adopt the 3-5-2 formation and Duff fits the bill? But why would he come to us with the possibility of relegation. That sparks another conversation, what if? Relegation was certainly not in the new owners plans. This is a make or break decision really. Agreed. I think Duff's proven ability/experience with 3-5-2 plays into his favour. Hungry to get back in and point to prove?
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Post by nagaddick on Jan 21, 2024 22:20:01 GMT
Hoping we do get Duff, he would be my favoured choice with Bowyer second
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Post by charltonforlife on Jan 21, 2024 22:33:42 GMT
Michael Duff would be a great choice and yes go get Cadden who is great in a 3-5-2. Michael Duff all the way for me ( his favoured formation is certainly 3-5-2 and with our playing staff that’s how we should definitely be setting up. Also note Duffs win percentage in this league is good and done from a base if Cheltenham Town and Barnsley ( the later I had the pleasure to watch 7 times last season ). Good solid entertains committed football. Just what we should be watching at Charlton. But give him at least a week in the window and we will see how he transforms this club.
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Post by madz on Jan 21, 2024 22:39:00 GMT
If Appleton has gone, this must have been something on owners minds for a while rather than a snap decision. But then that would make hiring Fleming so recently even stranger.
Don't get me wrong I hope he has gone because he didn't seem to care about Charlton anyway. Looked mostly disinterested from day one. But players like Coventry and Fiorini say they came to us because of him. How will that impact them and their desire to play for us? Other than hopefully being professional and the fact we are paying their wages.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 21, 2024 22:41:06 GMT
I have been thinking about this since the minute Cawley put it up. What Michael Appleton and the owners of Charlton Athletic Football Club don't need right now is bad publicity. It wouldn't do Appleton any favours getting the sack, despite getting another job after his Blackpool disaster, and SE7 wouldn't be portrayed in a good light sacking their second manager within 6 months of them officially taking over. It's not a good advert to attract new players or a new manager to the club. So what's the best for both parties going forward in terms of keeping reputations intact? So much terminology these days on how and why managers get dismissed and quite often the reasons provided to the press are that manager and club have decided to part company by mutual consent. That way everything is kept simple and respectful. The outgoing manager can then move on to his next job (in Appleton's case without an additional dismissal on his CV), while the club come out of it without having a reputation of sacking managers on a whim after a string of bad results. Not saying that's happened or is going to happen here but if that is the route both parties go down, Mendez and Cawley saying that Appleton has not been sacked would be technically correct.
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Post by Eddiecafc01 on Jan 21, 2024 22:43:11 GMT
Michael Duff incoming.
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Post by melrose555 on Jan 21, 2024 23:12:59 GMT
Please, please. Just get rid of Appleton
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Jan 21, 2024 23:36:39 GMT
I think we're all praying that a new manager will be announced at the same time as the old one leaving.
This isn't the time to spend three weeks appointing someone again, no matter how well Fleming might work as an interim.
Personally I'm hopping the Duff in duffer out move most people favour happens all in one go before Tuesday's game.
And if that means we have to put Appleton on gardening leave, well maybe he can grow an orchard (of misplaced trees he pays minimal attention to) x
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Post by pardew123 on Jan 21, 2024 23:39:23 GMT
Duff in duffer out like that, I liked he’s Cheltenham side and Barnsley they were solid I think he could do well here seems nice fella too.
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Post by wiggyatthebackpost on Jan 22, 2024 3:58:16 GMT
Can't wait for the Stone Island statue to be removed from the dugout.
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Post by sevenoaks on Jan 22, 2024 6:50:05 GMT
If Appleton has gone, this must have been something on owners minds for a while rather than a snap decision. But then that would make hiring Fleming so recently even stranger. Don't get me wrong I hope he has gone because he didn't seem to care about Charlton anyway. Looked mostly disinterested from day one. But players like Coventry and Fiorini say they came to us because of him. How will that impact them and their desire to play for us? Other than hopefully being professional and the fact we are paying their wages. Maybe always to say, that you came in because of the manager, sounds better than because of the financial package.
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