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Post by pardew123 on Jan 20, 2024 21:35:17 GMT
Wouldn’t mind Pearson he’s past he’s best but he would make us solid and hard to beat yet again though would he work in league 1.
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Post by cafclad on Jan 20, 2024 21:36:55 GMT
Wouldn’t surprise me if stays tbh
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Post by norfolkrobin on Jan 20, 2024 21:38:50 GMT
Get Michael Duff in ASAP great manager for this league, should have gone up with Barnsley last year even when played Sheff Wednesday in playoff were the better team and played with 20 men from early on. Plays much better football than Rowett and all the other names mentioned. Saw Barnsley seven or eight times last year when visiting family and they were really competitive and great to watch. Rowett and Bowyer football will send you to sleep and we DONT WANT THIS ! Let’s get Michael Duff here and watch this team flourish !!! Would be happy with Duff. Favours 3-5-2,ex-defender,knows what's required in this league.
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Post by watameires on Jan 20, 2024 21:38:53 GMT
How would people feel if he was sacked and replaced by Nigel Pearson? I only say this because Flemming was his assistant at Bristol City up until recently. very Good football manager but possibly too high maintenance
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Post by discocafc on Jan 20, 2024 21:54:37 GMT
Hope he is gone but the owners need to be held responsible for their selection process. They appointed Appleton based on his time at Lincoln but ignored his other career.
Should never have sacked Holden in the first place. Lucy Bishop hit the nail when she asked the board ‘why did Holden not get the time like Appleton did?’
If Appleton does get sacked I want a youngish manager who has started success and is hungry. This is what is lacking at Charlton at the moment.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 20, 2024 22:03:00 GMT
Hope he is gone but the owners need to be held responsible for their selection process. They appointed Appleton based on his time at Lincoln but ignored his other career. Should never have sacked Holden in the first place. Lucy Bishop hit the nail when she asked the board ‘why did Holden not get the time like Appleton did?’ If Appleton does get sacked I want a youngish manager who has started success and is hungry. This is what is lacking at Charlton at the moment. Can't go with inexperience mate, not after the last two disasters.
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Post by mikebassett on Jan 20, 2024 22:04:44 GMT
Now, I’m not going to defend Appleton because results haven’t really been good enough but can we continue on this vicious cycle much longer? I make it SEVEN full-time managers since the start of 2018 (14 in ten years) and it’s quite likely to be eight before the end of January. How can you ever expect to achieve anything when you’re chopping and changing at a rate of every nine months? How can a man get his ideas across or implement any processes when they’re going to be ripped up and started again within a few months? I will say that some of the seven permanent managers have had to work under ‘difficult’ owners and some of those owners, including the current ones, have made questionable decisions in that time.
I’m not sure what the answer is anymore.
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Post by dartford36 on Jan 20, 2024 22:13:13 GMT
I wonder what Curtis Fleming thinks he's got himself into?
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 20, 2024 22:15:06 GMT
Now, I’m not going to defend Appleton because results haven’t really been good enough but can we continue on this vicious cycle much longer? I make it SEVEN full-time managers since the start of 2018 (14 in ten years) and it’s quite likely to be eight before the end of January. How can you ever expect to achieve anything when you’re chopping and changing at a rate of every nine months? How can a man get his ideas across or implement any processes when they’re going to be ripped up and started again within a few months? I will say that some of the seven permanent managers have had to work under ‘difficult’ owners and some of those owners, including the current ones, have made questionable decisions in that time. I’m not sure what the answer is anymore. I think it’s 18 managers in the last 16 years. That includes Jose Riga appointed twice, but only 17.5 if you count Karel Fraeye. What Appleton should have done, if only to try to buy himself some time with the fanbase if he knew things were going to be a struggle with the squad, was at least make an effort with them. Really basic stuff like going over to the away end, chatting to fans before the game, attending a few fans meetings. Appleton has made literally zero effort. I remember 15 years or so ago, we played Barnet away in a pre season friendly. I wasn’t Parky’s biggest fan, after his infamous winless trial in the job somehow left him getting the job permanently (Murray 🤦♂️). But that day at Barnet, Parky went out of his way to engage with our fans, me included, coming over and starting off with a simple “alright lads”. These sorts of things matter, particularly when your results are crap. They give a manager a bit of goodwill to fall back on. Appleton has done zilch. Whether that it through shyness, or just a can’t be bothered attitude which is backed up by his press conferences, he now has nothing to fall back on. He is a very experienced albeit wildly unsuccessful manager, so he only has himself to blame.
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Post by discocafc on Jan 20, 2024 22:19:11 GMT
Hope he is gone but the owners need to be held responsible for their selection process. They appointed Appleton based on his time at Lincoln but ignored his other career. Should never have sacked Holden in the first place. Lucy Bishop hit the nail when she asked the board ‘why did Holden not get the time like Appleton did?’ If Appleton does get sacked I want a youngish manager who has started success and is hungry. This is what is lacking at Charlton at the moment. Can't go with inexperience mate, not after the last two disasters. Who are you referring to as we’ve not had a manager of that calibre yet? If you’re talking about Ben Garner and Dean Holden both of those have had failures elsewhere. Ben wasn’t popular at Bristol Rovers and Holden got sacked at Bristol City. I’m talking about a manager who has started success without any grey areas. It worked with the likes of Chris Wilder at Northampton who went on to do well at Sheffield United.
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Post by valley on Jan 20, 2024 22:23:42 GMT
If Pearce got the job until end of the season who would do his current job?.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 20, 2024 22:30:38 GMT
If Pearce got the job until end of the season who would do his current job?. Who gives a f**k. Christ you come out with some stuff at times. Do you honetly think we would give it to Pearce when we are in a relegation fight?
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Post by midlandsaddick on Jan 20, 2024 22:36:01 GMT
To be honest I hope they've been in contact with managers for a while with the run we're on...
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 20, 2024 22:39:08 GMT
Can't go with inexperience mate, not after the last two disasters. Who are you referring to as we’ve not had a manager of that calibre yet? If you’re talking about Ben Garner and Dean Holden both of those have had failures elsewhere. Ben wasn’t popular at Bristol Rovers and Holden got sacked at Bristol City. I’m talking about a manager who has started success without any grey areas. It worked with the likes of Chris Wilder at Northampton who went on to do well at Sheffield United. I get what you mean about young managers. The fella at Barrow is doing a good job but Will Still who has English connections has down a wonderful job at Reims in France with a small budget. What is even more remarkable though is when appointed in 2022, aged 30 he didn't have his UEFA Pro Licence and Reims were fined €25,000 for every match they played until he gained it!! That didn't stop them finishing 12th that season and 11th last season. This season they currently sit 6th. No way would he leave France for us but that's one hell of a story and if we need a manager one day when he's available I wouldn't think twice. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Still
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Post by norfolkrobin on Jan 20, 2024 22:39:57 GMT
I was hoping we would've had confirmation by now.
it's a results business,MA will know this better than most,so pleading his case is futile IMHO.
We need an upswing in mood Tuesday to get anything,so even if it's Pearce sat in the dugout like he did for Fleetwood that would be something....sad times.
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Post by tonyshootersbull on Jan 20, 2024 22:49:16 GMT
Get curbs in till end of season and Jackson
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Post by huddy1978 on Jan 20, 2024 23:27:35 GMT
I like Nigel Pearson, he's definitely a no nonsense manager, would give a few players a kick up the arse( or his hand around your throat!). Question is do the players need a manager like thus or one who will put an arm around the shoulder?. I'm not sure, but personally I'd like him.
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Jan 21, 2024 0:04:31 GMT
We've already got a manager called Michael who is duff.
Those who favour continuity wouldn't be able to complain if we replaced him with another!
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Post by norfolkrobin on Jan 21, 2024 8:32:41 GMT
Silence because things are taking place? Or more concerning MA is getting Tuesday's fixture aswell?
If anybody's in the know and can hint at what's going on I'd appreciate it.
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Post by kings hill addick on Jan 21, 2024 8:42:45 GMT
Silence because things are taking place? Or more concerning MA is getting Tuesday's fixture aswell? If anybody's in the know and can hint at what's going on I'd appreciate it. The SMT are giving Appleton money to spend and many of the new players are saying that they joined because they liked what he has been saying. I don’t believe that he will be sacked, irrespective as to how many new threads the fans make demanding that he is. The man inherited a disjointed squad and has signed new players that have only been available for one or two games. What would be the point in sacking him now? Who would we get in? How many players would join us if we were manager-less? I think he’ll be here until the end of February, at least.
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Post by DFT on Jan 21, 2024 8:45:52 GMT
Silence because things are taking place? Or more concerning MA is getting Tuesday's fixture aswell? If anybody's in the know and can hint at what's going on I'd appreciate it. I think he’ll be here until the end of February, at least. By which time we could be even deeper in the shit!
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Post by manikin on Jan 21, 2024 8:55:55 GMT
Appleton must go now, the current situation may well affect who we are able to sign. When he goes we need someone with plenty of experience and a good track record, not a flash in the pan journeyman.
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Post by melrose555 on Jan 21, 2024 9:01:46 GMT
Silence because things are taking place? Or more concerning MA is getting Tuesday's fixture aswell? If anybody's in the know and can hint at what's going on I'd appreciate it. The SMT are giving Appleton money to spend and many of the new players are saying that they joined because they liked what he has been saying. I don’t believe that he will be sacked, irrespective as to how many new threads the fans make demanding that he is. The man inherited a disjointed squad and has signed new players that have only been available for one or two games. What would be the point in sacking him now? Who would we get in? How many players would join us if we were manager-less? I think he’ll be here until the end of February, at least. You are joking KHA....aren't you? The bloke has been a total nightmare. Can you imagine playing for a man who can't/won't communicate. If we keep him a minute longer, then we are be in bigger trouble than we already are. Ps if he stays and we beat NT, he should still go
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Post by sevenoaks on Jan 21, 2024 9:06:47 GMT
I was wondering if there is more to the Curtis Fleming appointment? Has he been put there to take temporary charge once Appleton sacked?. In all my years, I have never known a Charlton team that's so weak and spineless. The two full backs/wing backs or whatever they are, are the worst I've seen in Charlton shirts.. As for Alfie May, having to hack a bloke down yesterday, with Watson trotting back, what was all that about... Alfie May looks and rightly so completely pissed off.. Where the hell is any heart and desire from this lot?...
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Post by yorkshireaddick on Jan 21, 2024 9:08:30 GMT
Silence because things are taking place? Or more concerning MA is getting Tuesday's fixture aswell? If anybody's in the know and can hint at what's going on I'd appreciate it. The SMT are giving Appleton money to spend and many of the new players are saying that they joined because they liked what he has been saying. I don’t believe that he will be sacked, irrespective as to how many new threads the fans make demanding that he is. The man inherited a disjointed squad and has signed new players that have only been available for one or two games. What would be the point in sacking him now? Who would we get in? How many players would join us if we were manager-less? I think he’ll be here until the end of February, at least. Every player says that about the manager when they join a new club. It's just a tired cliché at this point.
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Post by watameires on Jan 21, 2024 9:09:17 GMT
I’d rather Appleton goes than us sign more players. There should be enough in the squad already to avoid relegation. We need drastic improvements at the coaching position first and foremost
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Post by kings hill addick on Jan 21, 2024 9:11:34 GMT
The SMT are giving Appleton money to spend and many of the new players are saying that they joined because they liked what he has been saying. I don’t believe that he will be sacked, irrespective as to how many new threads the fans make demanding that he is. The man inherited a disjointed squad and has signed new players that have only been available for one or two games. What would be the point in sacking him now? Who would we get in? How many players would join us if we were manager-less? I think he’ll be here until the end of February, at least. You are joking KHA....aren't you? The bloke has been a total nightmare. Can you imagine playing for a man who can't/won't communicate. If we keep him a minute longer, then we are be in bigger trouble than we already are. Ps if he stays and we beat NT, he should still go I’m not joking, no. My post, however, was a prediction, not a request or a desire. It’s what I think they will do not what I think they should do.
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Post by melrose555 on Jan 21, 2024 9:17:17 GMT
You are joking KHA....aren't you? The bloke has been a total nightmare. Can you imagine playing for a man who can't/won't communicate. If we keep him a minute longer, then we are be in bigger trouble than we already are. Ps if he stays and we beat NT, he should still go I’m not joking, no. My post, however, was a prediction, not a request or a desire. It’s what I think they will do not what I think they should do. OK fair enough. What would you do?
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Post by newyorkaddick on Jan 21, 2024 9:28:08 GMT
I think he’ll be here until the end of February, at least. By which time we could be even deeper in the shit! Looking at the table I think Carlisle and Fleetwood are gone and Reading will likely go into freefall after the January window, so realistically I think only Cheltenham (who are in decent form) may be a threat to us assuming we don't pick up points soon (which surely we will even with Appleton in charge of the much improved squad?!) If not our game at Cheltenham on a Tuesday night in March could be massive.
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 21, 2024 9:30:21 GMT
By which time we could be even deeper in the shit! Looking at the table I think Carlisle and Fleetwood are gone and Reading will likely go into freefall after the January window, so realistically I think only Cheltenham (who are in decent form) may be a threat to us assuming we don't pick up points soon (which surely we will even with Appleton in charge of the much improved squad?!) If not our game at Cheltenham on a Tuesday night in March could be massive. From 8 years in the Premier League to competing with Cheltenham Town to stay out of Division 4.
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