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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2023 8:05:26 GMT
Think the Greenwich Uni connection will swing it for the Cowleys ? Not sure about them tbh look like they try and over complicate things with their tactics.
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Post by earlpurple on Aug 31, 2023 8:47:51 GMT
I'm concerned.
We are not too big to be relegated, there is no such thing. And the way we are going, it's a real possibility. We need to get in loan players and the big clubs are not likely to send players on loan to managerless clubs - they want to know who will be coaching their players.
My first choice would have been Darren Moore and I'd have made a quick approach for him, but Lee Bowyer at least had the attribute of getting in decent loans and improving them, so him until the end of the season with a full-time extension if he got us into the top 6 would have been a possibility.
Will we be scrambling in the January transfer window just to avoid the drop? It's a possibility.
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Post by thesunisred on Aug 31, 2023 9:14:45 GMT
Cowley now odds on.
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Post by DFT on Aug 31, 2023 9:19:51 GMT
I'm concerned. We are not too big to be relegated, there is no such thing. And the way we are going, it's a real possibility. We need to get in loan players and the big clubs are not likely to send players on loan to managerless clubs - they want to know who will be coaching their players. My first choice would have been Darren Moore and I'd have made a quick approach for him, but Lee Bowyer at least had the attribute of getting in decent loans and improving them, so him until the end of the season with a full-time extension if he got us into the top 6 would have been a possibility. Will we be scrambling in the January transfer window just to avoid the drop? It's a possibility. Darren Moore would have been perfect but did he apply or was he contacted? |
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Post by aaronaldo on Aug 31, 2023 9:20:13 GMT
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Post by clarky on Aug 31, 2023 9:22:26 GMT
hope I am wrong but wouldn't be a great move for us and another indication from our SMT showing a lack of ambition. |
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Post by DFT on Aug 31, 2023 9:23:04 GMT
Message I had this morning: Former Celtic manager Neil Lennon is being considered for a return to the UK with Charlton. Preliminary talks took place yesterday. He is talking to Hibs today. You can't just talk to a manager anymore without a league legal team being in on the conversation. If you are caught its tapping up, even if the manager is out of work. You're kidding, of course. Even Charlton wouldn't be stupid enough to appoint one of the most hated men in football. You've seen the reaction on here and other forums/Twitter etc? Have a word with them mate, tell them what a monumental mistake they would be making! |
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Post by seriouslyred on Aug 31, 2023 9:24:12 GMT
I'm concerned. We are not too big to be relegated, there is no such thing. And the way we are going, it's a real possibility. We need to get in loan players and the big clubs are not likely to send players on loan to managerless clubs - they want to know who will be coaching their players. My first choice would have been Darren Moore and I'd have made a quick approach for him, but Lee Bowyer at least had the attribute of getting in decent loans and improving them, so him until the end of the season with a full-time extension if he got us into the top 6 would have been a possibility. Will we be scrambling in the January transfer window just to avoid the drop? It's a possibility. Fully understand people's concerns as things don't look great on the pitch or in the dugout but all that may change on Saturday. Then again we may fail to win? At this stage Andy Scott simply has to navigate the last hours of this window AND the interview process such that we end up in a better place by end September. And can then use January to fine tune the squad. |
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Post by ca1975fc on Aug 31, 2023 9:31:08 GMT
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Post by ExeterAddick on Aug 31, 2023 9:39:29 GMT
Cheap as chips. Handy that. |
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Post by DFT on Aug 31, 2023 9:39:58 GMT
These reports are getting ridiculous now. Why would we interview someone like him?
We need a manager who will bring success.
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Post by revilo on Aug 31, 2023 9:44:05 GMT
I'm hearing that we've interviewed one of the pigeons, who said they will always put on a display for the fans.
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Post by 1978sussex on Aug 31, 2023 9:50:55 GMT
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Post by tidyjensen on Aug 31, 2023 10:01:43 GMT
Ben Garner 2.0
Another cheap and cheerful manager.
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Post by 1978sussex on Aug 31, 2023 10:05:15 GMT
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Post by revilo on Aug 31, 2023 10:16:31 GMT
If true, the new owners and SMT can fuck right off. |
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Post by kings hill addick on Aug 31, 2023 10:16:39 GMT
You make a very good additional point there. In both of our promotion years we had a nucleus of seasoned pros who knew their way around a game of football. We can all reel off the names of the players that were likely to be confident of their positions in and around the matchday XI in each season. Our current squad is made up almost entirely of young players and relatively new arrivals, who are all trying to establish themselves in the team at the same time. Very different. Another reason why, at this point in particular, we need to have a strong, respected, and sound voice of guidance in place, both at Sparrows Lane and from the first to the final whistle of each game. Very true in that the two 2023 windows under Scott have seen 75% of Garner's matchday squad sold, released or loaned out. For those interested in an independent view of our squad and what's needed in a new manager try this from 48 minutes in: open.spotify.com/episode/5p8SDKq7NfY4Wb9yaZiAtQYou are tight about Garner's players but I think it applies to, pretty much, all of the signings under Sandgaard. Fraser and Dobson aside only Blackett-Taylor is worth a place in the side from those signed while the Guitar playing Arse was running (if you can call, it that) the show. I'm not convinced by Blackett-Taylor either. Not only does he struggle with the final ball, he has, in the past been a bit inconsistent. Obviously I'm ignoring any of the Academy players that were, probably, at the club when the Sandgaard clan arrived. A major rebuild was needed and I was willing to give the new owners the benefit of the doubt when they started making decisions in December last year. Sadly, of the signings they made in January, only Hector survived to now and there are questions about him. Again, I can accept that as the aim was to, temporarily, replace the wage earners that we wanted to move out of the club all the while avoiding relegation. Despite accepting that a significant rebuild was needed I think that, as things stand, my assessment of the new owners, from December to now, has to be 'Must do better!' I will reassess that at the end of the week but the omens don't look good for the player recruitment team or the club's prospects for this season. I know you talk about 'getting to January' but, as things stand, it suggests that January will present the same situation as the previous year - hoping to get the dead wood out of the club; prepare for 2024/25; and avoid relegation. That is, just, not good enough! |
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Post by Mundell on Aug 31, 2023 10:22:56 GMT
Very true in that the two 2023 windows under Scott have seen 75% of Garner's matchday squad sold, released or loaned out. For those interested in an independent view of our squad and what's needed in a new manager try this from 48 minutes in: open.spotify.com/episode/5p8SDKq7NfY4Wb9yaZiAtQYou are tight about Garner's players but I think it applies to, pretty much, all of the signings under Sandgaard. Fraser and Dobson aside only Blackett-Taylor is worth a place in the side from those signed while the Guitar playing Arse was running (if you can call, it that) the show. I'm not convinced by Blackett-Taylor either. Not only does he struggle with the final ball, he has, in the past been a bit inconsistent. Obviously I'm ignoring any of the Academy players that were, probably, at the club when the Sandgaard clan arrived. A major rebuild was needed and I was willing to give the new owners the benefit of the doubt when they started making decisions in December last year. Sadly, of the signings they made in January, only Hector survived to now and there are questions about him. Again, I can accept that as the aim was to, temporarily, replace the wage earners that we wanted to move out of the club all the while avoiding relegation. Despite accepting that a significant rebuild was needed I think that, as things stand, my assessment of the new owners, from December to now, has to be 'Must do better!' I will reassess that at the end of the week but the omens don't look good for the player recruitment team or the club's prospects for this season. I know you talk about 'getting to January' but, as things stand, it suggests that January will present the same situation as the previous year - hoping to get the dead wood out of the club; prepare for 2024/25; and avoid relegation. That is, just, not good enough! If you ask me, the quality of our player recruitment has fallen off a cliff ever since Thomas Driesen left the scene!! Has to be a coincidence, surely? Doesn’t it?!! 😎 PS More seriously, I agree with you. We can all accept that a major squad rebuild was needed and perhaps that’s more difficult than we had hoped it would be. Nevertheless, at least so far, the inbound transfer activity has been underwhelming. Moreover, loan signings in a team that’s not challenging for promotion don’t really help the rebuild, they just buy time. We need to hope that with the right management the existing squad is much better than results to date appear to suggest. |
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Post by leedsaddick on Aug 31, 2023 10:23:48 GMT
Cowley 7/4 now Bookies know.Expect an announcement tomorrow. As Reams said interview went well so looks like it's The Cowley Brothers. Mmm they didn’t cut the mustard at Pompey we looked a far better team than they did in our two 2022/23 fixtures. They also struggled at Huddersfield and you have to go back to their Lincoln years for when they galvanised both the football club and the town in general. So I’m far from thrilled at the prospect of their appointment but as always will back them on match days out of hope but with far less expectation. Just been talking to some Huddersfield fans… the reason why the Cowleys left was due to a fall out with the Board and in particular, Lee Bronby, Director of Football…. Style of football was route 1……… ie hoof it up to the big fella up front…. Like you I’m uninspired at the prospect of this appointment, but who else is out there |
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Post by cafcjack83 on Aug 31, 2023 10:26:32 GMT
Mmm they didn’t cut the mustard at Pompey we looked a far better team than they did in our two 2022/23 fixtures. They also struggled at Huddersfield and you have to go back to their Lincoln years for when they galvanised both the football club and the town in general. So I’m far from thrilled at the prospect of their appointment but as always will back them on match days out of hope but with far less expectation. Just been talking to some Huddersfield fans… the reason why the Cowleys left was due to a fall out with the Board and in particular, Lee Bronby, Director of Football…. Style of football was route 1……… ie hoof it up to the big fella up front…. Like you I’m uninspired at the prospect of this appointment, but who else is out there who else? Bowyer, Moore, Powell, Jones. Any of them over Cowley(s) |
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Post by steve2707 on Aug 31, 2023 10:29:55 GMT
Just an addition to the Challinor rumour...
Wasn't it Stockport that knocked us out of the first round of the F.A Cup last season?
So, hardly "unsuccessful"...
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Post by madz on Aug 31, 2023 10:30:08 GMT
Dave Challinor is an interesting one if this is true about an approach. Not got a bad win rate (53%), seems to have been approached to move to other clubs rather than be sacked each time, which is a rare occurrence in football. He's young, but it will massively come down to his style of play, motivation skills and getting the right players.
Not excited about this option (and its only an option at this time like Cowley or Appleton), but then I haven't been excited about a manager joining since Powell. Slade, Robinson, Adkins, Garner, Holden, none would have been on my wanted list. Bowyer and Jackson got the job internally so not quite the same scenraio.
Tbh what else can we expect at League One level? We can expect better, but we ain't gonna get it.
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Post by seriouslyred on Aug 31, 2023 10:30:47 GMT
Very true in that the two 2023 windows under Scott have seen 75% of Garner's matchday squad sold, released or loaned out. For those interested in an independent view of our squad and what's needed in a new manager try this from 48 minutes in: open.spotify.com/episode/5p8SDKq7NfY4Wb9yaZiAtQYou are tight about Garner's players but I think it applies to, pretty much, all of the signings under Sandgaard. Fraser and Dobson aside only Blackett-Taylor is worth a place in the side from those signed while the Guitar playing Arse was running (if you can call, it that) the show. I'm not convinced by Blackett-Taylor either. Not only does he struggle with the final ball, he has, in the past been a bit inconsistent. Obviously I'm ignoring any of the Academy players that were, probably, at the club when the Sandgaard clan arrived. A major rebuild was needed and I was willing to give the new owners the benefit of the doubt when they started making decisions in December last year. Sadly, of the signings they made in January, only Hector survived to now and there are questions about him. Again, I can accept that as the aim was to, temporarily, replace the wage earners that we wanted to move out of the club all the while avoiding relegation. Despite accepting that a significant rebuild was needed I think that, as things stand, my assessment of the new owners, from December to now, has to be 'Must do better!' I will reassess that at the end of the week but the omens don't look good for the player recruitment team or the club's prospects for this season. I know you talk about 'getting to January' but, as things stand, it suggests that January will present the same situation as the previous year - hoping to get the dead wood out of the club; prepare for 2024/25; and avoid relegation. That is, just, not good enough! January 2024 will be different for a number of reasons: - whoever they appoint will have had four months and 20 games to establish their system, their matchday 18 and resolve glaring deficiencies - they, Scott and the fans will all have a view on three or four of the 18 that need upgrading plus one hopes there will be major successes too! - perhaps we're in FA Cup 3rd round?! - perhaps we close the gap on sixth place. If we don't then a few thousand fans will give up for the season And yes "must do better" is fair! Our commercial revenues are 40% of comparable clubs in League One and the Championship so announcements there will help. What we need most of all is a clear football narrative to emerge from this chaos. For in January 2024 there's no more room for excuses! |
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Post by silversurfer on Aug 31, 2023 10:37:12 GMT
Dave Challinor has done well at 2 previous clubs, if not Bowyer and Curbs would be great!
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Post by statto on Aug 31, 2023 10:44:37 GMT
Dave Challinor has done well at 2 previous clubs, if not Bowyer and Curbs would be great! Would prefer someone like Challinor that I don't know if he will be good or bad. More exciting than Cowley where we know exactly how average we will be! |
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Post by kings hill addick on Aug 31, 2023 10:46:42 GMT
You are tight about Garner's players but I think it applies to, pretty much, all of the signings under Sandgaard. Fraser and Dobson aside only Blackett-Taylor is worth a place in the side from those signed while the Guitar playing Arse was running (if you can call, it that) the show. I'm not convinced by Blackett-Taylor either. Not only does he struggle with the final ball, he has, in the past been a bit inconsistent. Obviously I'm ignoring any of the Academy players that were, probably, at the club when the Sandgaard clan arrived. A major rebuild was needed and I was willing to give the new owners the benefit of the doubt when they started making decisions in December last year. Sadly, of the signings they made in January, only Hector survived to now and there are questions about him. Again, I can accept that as the aim was to, temporarily, replace the wage earners that we wanted to move out of the club all the while avoiding relegation. Despite accepting that a significant rebuild was needed I think that, as things stand, my assessment of the new owners, from December to now, has to be 'Must do better!' I will reassess that at the end of the week but the omens don't look good for the player recruitment team or the club's prospects for this season. I know you talk about 'getting to January' but, as things stand, it suggests that January will present the same situation as the previous year - hoping to get the dead wood out of the club; prepare for 2024/25; and avoid relegation. That is, just, not good enough! January 2024 will be different for a number of reasons: - whoever they appoint will have had four months and 20 games to establish their system, their matchday 18 and resolve glaring deficiencies - they, Scott and the fans will all have a view on three or four of the 18 that need upgrading plus one hopes there will be major successes too! - perhaps we're in FA Cup 3rd round?! - perhaps we close the gap on sixth place. If we don't then a few thousand fans will give up for the season And yes "must do better" is fair! Our commercial revenues are 40% of comparable clubs in League One and the Championship so announcements there will help. What we need most of all is a clear football narrative to emerge from this chaos. For in January 2024 there's no more room for excuses! Agreed but Didn't Holden have 20 games to establish his system and his matchday 18? With the squad we're going to have I wouldn't be surprised if they sack the new manager in January and appoint a new one in February. I am getting very disillusioned and concerned with the prospects for Charlton at the moment. We seem to be no better off than under Sandgaard and with the multiple owners it is going to be, even, harder to get a new one in. It is beginning to look like we will be stuck in this division for ever. |
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Post by 1978sussex on Aug 31, 2023 10:48:32 GMT
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Post by leedsaddick on Aug 31, 2023 10:52:21 GMT
Just been talking to some Huddersfield fans… the reason why the Cowleys left was due to a fall out with the Board and in particular, Lee Bronby, Director of Football…. Style of football was route 1……… ie hoof it up to the big fella up front…. Like you I’m uninspired at the prospect of this appointment, but who else is out there who else? Bowyer, Moore, Powell, Jones. Any of them over Cowley(s) The point I’m making is why haven’t we gone after these? I think it reflects cost and possible the current image of the club. If we were serious on these, surely an appointment would have been made by now |
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Post by wiggyatthebackpost on Aug 31, 2023 10:55:34 GMT
Scrapping the Barrel now what a mess. |
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Post by cafclad on Aug 31, 2023 10:59:00 GMT
One word comes to mind
CHEAP
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