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Post by seriouslyred on Sept 4, 2023 15:22:56 GMT
He was then and probably is still our highest ever wage earner on c25,000 a week, enough to make you very rich. Chelsea doubled that to £50,000 a week enough to make you very rich for life and security for your whole family in the future. I know what I would do given that choice. The figures ITK types quoted at the time were than he was on £16k with us and £45k at Chelsea. I remain convinced Chelsea signed him more to hobble us than help them (given he was just a bench warmer with the CMs they already had). We were 5th at the time and had been closing the gap on 4th place Chelsea week by week. Although we still finished 7th I'm convinced we would have qualified for Europe if he'd stayed. I blame Abramovich rather than Parker though. Who would really turn down trebled wages for less (on pitch time) work? If I recall correctly Parker went straight into their midfield under Ranieri with Makalele and Lampard (including Champions League) due to injury and loss of form of other midfielders. However, once Mourhino took over Parker got injured, players returned to form and Jose brought in new signings - all of these led to the premature end of Parker's Chelsea career after just six months! And yes there was surely an element of taking out a competitor, especially after Parker played so well in our 4-2 demolition of Chelsea a week before the window opened. |
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Post by AndyB on Sept 4, 2023 15:44:58 GMT
I’m probably wrong but didn’t they buy him after we done them home and away - I’m thinking it was sour grapes , it definitely ripped the heart out of the squad at the time
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Post by clarky on Sept 4, 2023 16:20:40 GMT
I’m probably wrong but didn’t they buy him after we done them home and away - I’m thinking it was sour grapes , it definitely ripped the heart out of the squad at the time Pretty sure that is correct, in fact I think we beat them 6 games on the bounce, with our loss after that being the sandy pitch game. Also think just before he left he refused to play in the Fa Cup against Gillingham as he didn't want to get cup tied. After he left we won our next league game 1-0 at Everton with Grahame Stuart scoring our goal and I foolishly thought we can do it without him. |
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Post by chingford1 on Sept 4, 2023 16:36:10 GMT
Can somebody ask Cawley why Bpwyer is back top.of the favourites for next manager.I have no access to him
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Post by yorkshireaddick on Sept 4, 2023 16:39:04 GMT
Can somebody ask Cawley why Bpwyer is back top.of the favourites for next manager.I have no access to him It's because people are betting more on him than the other names on the list. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Sept 4, 2023 17:08:55 GMT
Can somebody ask Cawley why Bpwyer is back top.of the favourites for next manager.I have no access to him It's because people are betting more on him than the other names on the list. Wishful thinking for some fans, that’s all. Wishful in their eyes, I don’t personally want Bowyer back. |
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Post by surreyaddick on Sept 4, 2023 18:06:06 GMT
You only have to put a fiver on a potential manager and they go to evens
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Post by pardew123 on Sept 4, 2023 18:17:29 GMT
See Appleton is top of the odds I wouldn’t want him personally hopefully it’s someone decent Bonner would be a good shout young and progressive
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Post by aaronaldo on Sept 4, 2023 18:34:19 GMT
See Appleton is top of the odds I wouldn’t want him personally hopefully it’s someone decent Bonner would be a good shout young and progressive Someone’s had a bet on Cowley as he’s top now |
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Post by fourhorsemen on Sept 4, 2023 18:44:17 GMT
You only have to put a fiver on a potential manager and they go to evens Someone's bet another fiver. On this occassion it seems bookies aren't in the know and their guess is as bad as ours! Latest; Manager Specials (Betvictor) Next Permanent Charlton Manager - Outright Danny Cowley 1/1 Lee Bowyer 4/1 Michael Appleton 4/1 Mark Warburton 16/1 Leam Richardson 16/1 Nathan Jones 12/1 Dave Challinor 12/1 |
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 4, 2023 19:21:15 GMT
Can I just say just to quieten down one or two elsewhere who are listening to the voices in their heads...CM is not involved in the interview process or appointment of the next manager. He may well be the one the press go to for the story but he isn't involved in the recruitment at all. That is 100%.
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Post by aaronaldo on Sept 4, 2023 19:36:47 GMT
Can I just say just to quieten down one or two elsewhere who are listening to the voices in their heads...CM is not involved in the interview process or appointment of the next manager. He may well be the one the press go to for the story but he isn't involved in the recruitment at all. That is 100%. The type of people who think he is, won’t believe you or even Charlie/Andy if they came out and confirmed he wasn’t involved. Give it a week and they will be spouting the same thing again. They just want to be heard. |
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Post by midlandsaddick on Sept 4, 2023 19:39:11 GMT
Can I just say just to quieten down one or two elsewhere who are listening to the voices in their heads...CM is not involved in the interview process or appointment of the next manager. He may well be the one the press go to for the story but he isn't involved in the recruitment at all. That is 100%. 100% correct. Same old negative sods making up a story to turn fans against the owners. |
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Post by ashaddick on Sept 4, 2023 19:40:27 GMT
He was then and probably is still our highest ever wage earner on c25,000 a week, enough to make you very rich. Chelsea doubled that to £50,000 a week enough to make you very rich for life and security for your whole family in the future. I know what I would do given that choice. The figures ITK types quoted at the time were than he was on £16k with us and £45k at Chelsea. I remain convinced Chelsea signed him more to hobble us than help them (given he was just a bench warmer with the CMs they already had). We were 5th at the time and had been closing the gap on 4th place Chelsea week by week. Although we still finished 7th I'm convinced we would have qualified for Europe if he'd stayed. I blame Abramovich rather than Parker though. Who would really turn down trebled wages for less (on pitch time) work? I take my figures from a frustrated supporters meeting in Ashford when Pardew stated that the most the wages the club had ever paid was still Parker at either £20.000 or £25.000 ( it was some years ago ) and it was generally accepted that Chelski offered to double them.. I don’t doubt though that some of what you say is right. |
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Post by surridgecobbler5 on Sept 4, 2023 19:45:07 GMT
Brentford Scott link ... Brummie Dean Smith .... Not a choice I'd want to see
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Post by seriouslyred on Sept 4, 2023 21:24:08 GMT
Can I just say just to quieten down one or two elsewhere who are listening to the voices in their heads...CM is not involved in the interview process or appointment of the next manager. He may well be the one the press go to for the story but he isn't involved in the recruitment at all. That is 100%. The type of people who think he is, won’t believe you or even Charlie/Andy if they came out and confirmed he wasn’t involved. Give it a week and they will be spouting the same thing again. They just want to be heard. They do... and they wish to air their grievances. But ultimately irrelevant! We have a Technical Director who works with the SMT, and ultimately reports to the investors. Methven obviously has a role but he isn't recruiting the players, nor the manager. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Sept 5, 2023 8:00:43 GMT
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Post by manikin on Sept 5, 2023 8:23:01 GMT
The sooner we get the right guy in the better, taking advantage of the international break. I'm not sure it makes sense leaving out of work candidates to apply for the position, we could well miss out on the right guy. Some of these guys are a bit self opinionated and need a nudge. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Sept 5, 2023 8:31:21 GMT
The sooner we get the right guy in the better, taking advantage of the international break. I'm not sure it makes sense leaving out of work candidates to apply for the position, we could well miss out on the right guy. Some of these guys are a bit self opinionated and need a nudge.Disagree tbh. If the person is out of work and can't be bothered to apply then they aren't that interested in the role and I wouldn't want them. Simples. |
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Post by manikin on Sept 5, 2023 8:37:50 GMT
The sooner we get the right guy in the better, taking advantage of the international break. I'm not sure it makes sense leaving out of work candidates to apply for the position, we could well miss out on the right guy. Some of these guys are a bit self opinionated and need a nudge.Disagree tbh. If the person is out of work and can't be bothered to apply then they aren't that interested in the role and I wouldn't want them. Simples. I suppose at the end of the day it depends how much they want a job. |
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Post by Mundell on Sept 5, 2023 9:33:56 GMT
“Technical director Andy Scott and chairman Jim Rodwell have been conducting the interviews.”
Who’d have thought it?!!
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 5, 2023 9:44:34 GMT
“Technical director Andy Scott and chairman Jim Rodwell have been conducting the interviews.” Who’d have thought it?!! And all the time the CM haters were telling us he was involved. Supaclive from another forum had even been told he was! So gullable some people! 😆 |
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Post by steve2707 on Sept 5, 2023 9:54:42 GMT
I agree with aaronaldo.
How arrogant is it, to think that even though you're out of work, that a substantial organisation, (which Charlton Athletic Football Club are, irrespective oc which division we're in) would just invite you in for an interview? Normal business doesn't work like that, and if the SMT wants to make us look like a more professional organisation, that's fine with me. (Football for years has been a bit of a closed shop. And I really don't want us going down the Murray employing Dowie just to pi55 off Jordan route again!)
If you're out of work, how much effort does it take to look in a Rothmans manual (or its equivalent) and make a phone call. Or fax/email your C.V.
Not applying smacks a bit of you thinking you're bigger/better than the club...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2023 9:57:46 GMT
Brentford Scott link ... Brummie Dean Smith .... Not a choice I'd want to see More likely Warburton also with the Brentford link. |
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Post by mersthamred on Sept 5, 2023 11:09:51 GMT
“Technical director Andy Scott and chairman Jim Rodwell have been conducting the interviews.” Who’d have thought it?!! And all the time the CM haters were telling us he was involved. Supaclive from another forum had even been told he was! So gullable some people! 😆 Charlie needs to join the Labour Party or Lib Dems, maybe also go non-binary to try and win them over. |
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Post by discocafc on Sept 5, 2023 12:10:07 GMT
Oh nice. Better to make sure we've gone through a thorough process than rush to get someone in quick just for an extra few days with the team imo. Not really. They will be off on Wednesday after playing on Tuesday night. Start afresh next week hopefully with Scott Parker....Thunderbirds are go! 😀 No! Not that judas ****! Besides why bring back someone people dislike? We want to bring fans back, not keep them away! If we bring him back might as well bring Taylor back and Kevin Muscat as assistant manager! Haha |
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Post by cafcph on Sept 5, 2023 12:57:09 GMT
I agree with aaronaldo. How arrogant is it, to think that even though you're out of work, that a substantial organisation, (which Charlton Athletic Football Club are, irrespective oc which division we're in) would just invite you in for an interview? Normal business doesn't work like that, and if the SMT wants to make us look like a more professional organisation, that's fine with me. (Football for years has been a bit of a closed shop. And I really don't want us going down the Murray employing Dowie just to pi55 off Jordan route again!) If you're out of work, how much effort does it take to look in a Rothmans manual (or its equivalent) and make a phone call. Or fax/email your C.V. Not applying smacks a bit of you thinking you're bigger/better than the club... It’s certainly not hard to get hold of Andy Scott directly if a manager wished to apply. My boss emailed him last week about the new manager search and got a response on Sunday evening. Nothing generic. A well thought out and personal and professional response. If Bowyer wants the job he knows the email format!!😉 |
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Post by clarky on Sept 5, 2023 15:23:09 GMT
Whatever Manager we get in he will get a sizeable wedge to spend in the January transfer window as we have been told on numerous occasions money isn't a problem. To be honest I really don't care who does the recruiting as long as we get the right man for the job and he is allowed to manage.
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Post by aaronaldo on Sept 5, 2023 15:29:26 GMT
Whatever Manager we get in he will get a sizeable wedge to spend in the January transfer window as we have been told on numerous occasions money isn't a problem. To be honest I really don't care who does the recruiting as long as we get the right man for the job and he is allowed to manage. I don't think anyone has said "money isn't a problem". They have said (although not publicly?) through their fan 'contacts' that money is there to spend. I.e. There is a budget to use. This is nowhere near the same as "money isn't a problem". For me that's a case of hearing want you want to hear, which is quite rife in our fan base. A small chunk of people purposely misinterpretting what is said and this is then repeated until it becomes 'fact'. Edit: I'm not saying you are one of those purposely misinterpretting info btw. |
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Post by clarky on Sept 5, 2023 15:38:32 GMT
Whatever Manager we get in he will get a sizeable wedge to spend in the January transfer window as we have been told on numerous occasions money isn't a problem. To be honest I really don't care who does the recruiting as long as we get the right man for the job and he is allowed to manage. I don't think anyone has said "money isn't a problem". They have said (although not publicly?) through their fan 'contacts' that money is there to spend. I.e. There is a budget to use. This is nowhere near the same as "money isn't a problem". For me that's a case of hearing want you want to hear, which is quite rife in our fan base. A small chunk of people purposely misinterpretting what is said and this is then repeated until it becomes 'fact'. Considering we allegedly bid 500k/600k for Nombe, I would call that a "sizeable wedge" and if we have that amount to spend on one player then I would read that as money isn't a problem. |
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