Who will be the new manager of Charlton Athletic? (Closed)

[manikin]

Sept 5, 2023 15:29:26 GMT aaronaldo said:

Sept 5, 2023 15:23:09 GMT clarky said:

Whatever Manager we get in he will get a sizeable wedge to spend in the January transfer window as we have been told on numerous occasions money isn't a problem. To be honest I really don't care who does the recruiting as long as we get the right man for the job and he is allowed to manage.

I don't think anyone has said "money isn't a problem". They have said (although not publicly?) through their fan 'contacts' that money is there to spend. I.e. There is a budget to use.

This is nowhere near the same as "money isn't a problem". For me that's a case of hearing want you want to hear, which is quite rife in our fan base. A small chunk of people purposely misinterpretting what is said and this is then repeated until it becomes 'fact'.

I hope by January we are performing well enough not to need "expensive" signings, not a good month for that. Unless a real deal became available I would rather wait till the summer window when we can do a proper job of rebuilding. This window has been good, but could have been so much better if we had been able to start signing in earnest when it opened.

[seriouslyred]

Sept 5, 2023 15:38:32 GMT clarky said:

Sept 5, 2023 15:29:26 GMT aaronaldo said:

I don't think anyone has said "money isn't a problem". They have said (although not publicly?) through their fan 'contacts' that money is there to spend. I.e. There is a budget to use.

This is nowhere near the same as "money isn't a problem". For me that's a case of hearing want you want to hear, which is quite rife in our fan base. A small chunk of people purposely misinterpretting what is said and this is then repeated until it becomes 'fact'.

Considering we allegedly bid 500k/600k for Nombe, I would call that a "sizeable wedge" and if we have that amount to spend on one player then I would read that as money isn't a problem.

Any club can put a low bid in knowing it will likely be declined. Just as any club can spend money without delivering a competitive side. Sandgaard ensured we were in the top six for fees laid out.

What Scott actually delivered was a loan striker to complement Leaburn, May and Kanu. Of course we need decent strikers but also decent wingers and a no. 10.

Let's see what the new manager makes of the squad and whether Scott spends money in January. We aren't buying our way out of the division, but if the SMT still wish to compete for the play-offs then we'll need to strengthen in January.

[clarky]

Sept 5, 2023 15:42:35 GMT manikin said:

Sept 5, 2023 15:29:26 GMT aaronaldo said:

I don't think anyone has said "money isn't a problem". They have said (although not publicly?) through their fan 'contacts' that money is there to spend. I.e. There is a budget to use.

This is nowhere near the same as "money isn't a problem". For me that's a case of hearing want you want to hear, which is quite rife in our fan base. A small chunk of people purposely misinterpretting what is said and this is then repeated until it becomes 'fact'.

I hope by January we are performing well enough not to need "expensive" signings, not a good month for that. Unless a real deal became available I would rather wait till the summer window when we can do a proper job of rebuilding. This window has been good, but could have been so much better if we had been able to start signing in earnest when it opened.

Whilst I agree with this if the incoming manager isn't happy with some of the players he has inherited then he may want to start using that window to start the preperation for next season. Hopefully, come January we will ne sitting pretty in the league and 1 or 2 quality additions might see us push on to where we need to be.

[addickted2021]

Sept 5, 2023 15:23:09 GMT clarky said:

Whatever Manager we get in he will get a sizeable wedge to spend in the January transfer window as we have been told on numerous occasions money isn't a problem. To be honest I really don't care who does the recruiting as long as we get the right man for the job and he is allowed to manage.

little to no chance of having cash to spend on transfer fees going by the last window.

[bexleyboy]

Sept 5, 2023 16:34:43 GMT addickted2021 said:

Sept 5, 2023 15:23:09 GMT clarky said:

Whatever Manager we get in he will get a sizeable wedge to spend in the January transfer window as we have been told on numerous occasions money isn't a problem. To be honest I really don't care who does the recruiting as long as we get the right man for the job and he is allowed to manage.

little to no chance of having cash to spend on transfer fees going by the last window.

There is money to spend as proved offering large amount for the Exeter striker .. but think it’s been said they refused to spend 800,000 to 1 mill on a 30 year old plus striker .. so they went down the loan route and we will looks again in January when prices may drop

[addickted2021]

Sept 5, 2023 17:01:45 GMT bexleyboy said:

Sept 5, 2023 16:34:43 GMT addickted2021 said:

little to no chance of having cash to spend on transfer fees going by the last window.

There is money to spend as proved offering large amount for the Exeter striker .. but think it’s been said they refused to spend 800,000 to 1 mill on a 30 year old plus striker .. so they went down the loan route and we will looks again in January when prices may drop

What evidence is there that they offered a decent transfer fee, I have seen nothing on any official release by the club to this effect.

[reamsofverse]

We bid 500k.

londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-did-make-approach-for-exeter-city-striker-sam-nombe/

[reamsofverse]

Sept 5, 2023 16:34:43 GMT addickted2021 said:

Sept 5, 2023 15:23:09 GMT clarky said:

Whatever Manager we get in he will get a sizeable wedge to spend in the January transfer window as we have been told on numerous occasions money isn't a problem. To be honest I really don't care who does the recruiting as long as we get the right man for the job and he is allowed to manage.

little to no chance of having cash to spend on transfer fees going by the last window.

Absolute rubbish. Plenty to spend but they are not going to go gung ho splashing out after five weeks.

I do wish people would see the bigger picture. Come January they would have been here seven montsh and a good time to evaluate. If we are challenging they will strengthen, if not we will wait for that all importat third window next summer.

[jackcharlton]

Sept 5, 2023 17:43:45 GMT reamsofverse said:

Sept 5, 2023 16:34:43 GMT addickted2021 said:

little to no chance of having cash to spend on transfer fees going by the last window.

Absolute rubbish. Plenty to spend but they are not going to go gung ho splashing out after five weeks.

I do wish people would see the bigger picture. Come January they would have been here seven montsh and a good time to evaluate. If we are challenging they will strengthen, if not we will wait for that all importat third window next summer.

Anyone would think we’d been bought by Saudis. Unbelievable some comments I’ve read about not spending.

Maybe they don’t realise that loans cost money as well…

[revilo]

Sept 5, 2023 17:43:45 GMT reamsofverse said:

Sept 5, 2023 16:34:43 GMT addickted2021 said:

little to no chance of having cash to spend on transfer fees going by the last window.

Absolute rubbish. Plenty to spend but they are not going to go gung ho splashing out after five weeks.

I do wish people would see the bigger picture. Come January they would have been here seven montsh and a good time to evaluate. If we are challenging they will strengthen, if not we will wait for that all importat third window next summer.

Don't waste your breath repeating yourself

[jonkool]

Sept 5, 2023 9:44:34 GMT reamsofverse said:

Sept 5, 2023 9:33:56 GMT Mundell said:

“Technical director Andy Scott and chairman Jim Rodwell have been conducting the interviews.”

Who’d have thought it?!! 

And all the time the CM haters were telling us he was involved. Supaclive from another forum had even been told he was! So gullable some people! 😆

That’s Luddite Life for you.

[ExeterAddick]

If we thought the prices in August were steep, we're in for a rude awakening in January, when fees are almost always at a premium.

We might luck out on getting someone who is about to become a free agent at the end of the season, but then the temptation will be to wait another six months and get them on a free. I never think there's value to be had in the January window tbh.

[cedric]

Whomever takes on this club will need to have a strong constitution and more than a little of the Houdini about them.

[smudge7946]

Apparently according to women 'experts' teams don't need managers.

[pardew123]

They certainly will need a strong constitution tonight showed our lack of depth if we have 2-3 injuries we are up the creek Deji is nowhere near first team I couldn’t believe there was premiership interest in him last summer apparently

[aaronaldo]

I heard Lee Bowyer was going to submit an application but decided against it after seeing the game tonight 🫣🤣

[kings hill addick]

Sept 5, 2023 21:53:54 GMT aaronaldo said:

I heard Lee Bowyer was going to submit an application but decided against it after seeing the game tonight 🫣🤣

Bowyer would toughen these players up. They look like they have no fight.

Frankly, the players look like there is no consequence to failure. I’m not surprised, most of the players have seen off, at least, two managers. Some of them have seen off five managers and many of them have seen off four.

How can you expect a player to be concerned if the manager isn’t happy with them when they know that in, about, six months there will be a new one.

Kirk is a player that tested the patience of Adkins, Jackson, Garner and Holden but he is back in the first team strutting around looking like he doesn’t want to break a toe nail.

As the issues seem to have existed since Adkin’s was here and we have had several managers and two owners (and yes I am starting the clock on the current lot in December last year) it makes me wonder if there is a bad culture at the training ground that is being cultivates by some of the players. We all know that it’s easier for rogue employees to badly affect the culture or a work place than it is for good employees to raise it.

There seems to be something more fundamentally wrong. For this reason I would want to appoint a manager that is tough and will not take any crap. Then he needs to be given long enough to either get rid of the bad eggs or scare them into turning over a new leaf.

[pardew123]

Got a feeling is Appleton I hope not

[somerton]

Other than being payed mega bucks why would a hard decent manager wanted to take over at this fiasco of a team.
You cannot make a silk purse out of a pigs ear.

[cedric]

I’m with Tyler Rowlinson - he rightly said that the way things are going at this club he no longer cares who the next boss will be- they will most likely be sacked and paid off in a few months anyway.

Clearly the culture within the playing staff is poor and it needs a manager who will kick arse- Bowyer was that manager but he was criticised in some quarters for it- do do we have a kaftan wearing new age hippy like Adkins or a kick arse Mr Buzzcut like Lee Bowyer?

Personally I feel that players need a tough manager who will let them know in no uncertain terms when they have f@cked up but be bright enough to know when an encouraging pat on the back is needed too.

Perhaps not wash the dirty linen in public but be hard and fair.
It’s difficult to see who will adequately fit the bill- most of the candidates mentioned aren’t overly inspiring (The Chuckle Brothers/Appleton) for me it should be Darren Moore but I doubt whether he’d be daft enough to take this lot on.

Kings Hill Addick Is one hundred percent right (and then some)- these players have got a lot of managers fired by their laziness/ineptitude etc etc- the problem is starting to look very much like it’s them who are the issue not the guy in the dugout.

[se7sm]

Sept 5, 2023 23:23:18 GMT cedric said:

I’m with Tyler Rowlinson - he rightly said that the way things are going at this club he no longer cares who the next boss will be- they will most likely be sacked and paid off in a few months anyway.

Clearly the culture within the playing staff is poor and it needs a manager who will kick arse- Bowyer was that manager but he was criticised in some quarters for it- do do we have a kaftan wearing new age hippy like Adkins or a kick arse Mr Buzzcut like Lee Bowyer?

Personally I feel that players need a tough manager who will let them know in no uncertain terms when they have f@cked up but be bright enough to know when an encouraging pat on the back is needed too.

Perhaps not wash the dirty linen in public but be hard and fair.
It’s difficult to see who will adequately fit the bill- most of the candidates mentioned aren’t overly inspiring (The Chuckle Brothers/Appleton) for me it should be Darren Moore but I doubt whether he’d be daft enough to take this lot on.

Kings Hill Addick Is one hundred percent right (and then some)- these players have got a lot of managers fired by their laziness/ineptitude etc etc- the problem is starting to look very much like it’s them who are the issue not the guy in the dugout.

its blatantly obvious a lot of our squad should not be playing at this level ,never mind who the manager is it’s an axe job for many .

[eric]

Sept 6, 2023 6:21:42 GMT se7sm said:

Sept 5, 2023 23:23:18 GMT cedric said:

I’m with Tyler Rowlinson - he rightly said that the way things are going at this club he no longer cares who the next boss will be- they will most likely be sacked and paid off in a few months anyway.

Clearly the culture within the playing staff is poor and it needs a manager who will kick arse- Bowyer was that manager but he was criticised in some quarters for it- do do we have a kaftan wearing new age hippy like Adkins or a kick arse Mr Buzzcut like Lee Bowyer?

Personally I feel that players need a tough manager who will let them know in no uncertain terms when they have f@cked up but be bright enough to know when an encouraging pat on the back is needed too.

Perhaps not wash the dirty linen in public but be hard and fair.
It’s difficult to see who will adequately fit the bill- most of the candidates mentioned aren’t overly inspiring (The Chuckle Brothers/Appleton) for me it should be Darren Moore but I doubt whether he’d be daft enough to take this lot on.

Kings Hill Addick Is one hundred percent right (and then some)- these players have got a lot of managers fired by their laziness/ineptitude etc etc- the problem is starting to look very much like it’s them who are the issue not the guy in the dugout.

its blatantly obvious a lot of our squad should not be playing at this level ,never mind who the manager is it’s an axe job for many .

Don't think I've ever seen such a gutless , spineless, talentless bunch as what we have now with Kirk being the king of all the piss-takers . We haven't had great managers either , but who in their right mind who want to manage this shower of shit .

[ardrohanlil]

Sept 5, 2023 23:23:18 GMT cedric said:

I’m with Tyler Rowlinson - he rightly said that the way things are going at this club he no longer cares who the next boss will be- they will most likely be sacked and paid off in a few months anyway.

Clearly the culture within the playing staff is poor and it needs a manager who will kick arse- Bowyer was that manager but he was criticised in some quarters for it- do do we have a kaftan wearing new age hippy like Adkins or a kick arse Mr Buzzcut like Lee Bowyer?

Personally I feel that players need a tough manager who will let them know in no uncertain terms when they have f@cked up but be bright enough to know when an encouraging pat on the back is needed too.

Perhaps not wash the dirty linen in public but be hard and fair.
It’s difficult to see who will adequately fit the bill- most of the candidates mentioned aren’t overly inspiring (The Chuckle Brothers/Appleton) for me it should be Darren Moore but I doubt whether he’d be daft enough to take this lot on.

Kings Hill Addick Is one hundred percent right (and then some)- these players have got a lot of managers fired by their laziness/ineptitude etc etc- the problem is starting to look very much like it’s them who are the issue not the guy in the dugout.

Totally agree, we have too many players who stroll about and are only interested in the next pay day

[mersthamred]

We need a young manager who can also play in central defence.

[squareball]

Sept 6, 2023 7:12:26 GMT eric said:

Sept 6, 2023 6:21:42 GMT se7sm said:

its blatantly obvious a lot of our squad should not be playing at this level ,never mind who the manager is it’s an axe job for many .

Don't think I've ever seen such a gutless , spineless, talentless bunch as what we have now with Kirk being the king of all the piss-takers . We haven't had great managers either , but who in their right mind who want to manage this shower of shit .

If we get a decent manager then a lot of these crocks and inexperienced loans won’t be getting many games. So we’re well short of quality.

[innerspaced]

Can't lie...I'm dreading the announcement of Appleton. Can't help thinking he will be another end of season departure. I hope I'm wrong

[aaronaldo]

Sept 6, 2023 13:08:56 GMT innerspaced said:

Can't lie...I'm dreading the announcement of Appleton. Can't help thinking he will be another end of season departure. I hope I'm wrong

I think I'd rather Lee Johnson (who I'm very much not a fan of)

[aaronaldo]

[valleyfaithful]

Sept 6, 2023 13:33:33 GMT aaronaldo said:

I might chuck my CV in for Andy Scott's position, I think my Fifa Ultimate Team & Football Manager experience probably gets me closer to success than he's aiming for.

[aaronaldo]

Some saying it's Appleton. Very un-inspiring if true.