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Post by manikin on Sept 4, 2023 9:18:36 GMT
Everyone has the right to better themselves but there is also the moral right to do the correct thing. Both Parker and Taylor at the time of their departures owed the club. Parkers development and progress through the "ranks" was down to the club and coaching staff, he'd just signed a new five year deal, of course we don't know what would have happened over the rest of the season had he stayed but we were a much better team with him. If Taylor had played in the last few games at the end of the season and scored one or two goals there's every chance we would have stayed up and he also owed the club, he left a better player than when he arrived. Had both stayed and seen out their respective seasons they would have left with the full respect and admiration of the fans. It's also possible their carreers would have panned out better, particularly Parker.
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Post by aaronaldo on Sept 4, 2023 9:47:43 GMT
I didn't mean to derail this thread lol. I assume it's mainly due to no real rumours or anything at the moment. reamsofverse - Are you hearing anything in terms of timescales for a decision? |
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Post by earlpurple on Sept 4, 2023 10:20:41 GMT
I have no problems with players leaving between seasons. For me the January transfer window should be restricted to prevent poaching. I'd quite like to see players "league tied" so they can't switch at least within the same division or possibly at all if they've been a regular at their club.
This was our best season and we had ambition that was taken away from us. Scott Parker could have agreed the move to Chelsea to happen at the end of the season and worked in Mourinho's new team.
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Post by dittonaddick on Sept 4, 2023 10:39:57 GMT
Cawley saying final stage interviews Tues and Weds with decision shortly after.
Means a week of training being lost, which is a shame.
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Post by ashaddick on Sept 4, 2023 10:40:15 GMT
What did he do? I don't remember tbh. I remember him training on his own after a falling out with Curbs. Went on strike , refusing to play. Speeding up move to Chelsea.. He was then and probably is still our highest ever wage earner on c25,000 a week, enough to make you very rich. Chelsea doubled that to £50,000 a week enough to make you very rich for life and security for your whole family in the future. I know what I would do given that choice. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Sept 4, 2023 10:45:11 GMT
Cawley saying final stage interviews Tues and Weds with decision shortly after. Means a week of training being lost, which is a shame. Oh nice. Better to make sure we've gone through a thorough process than rush to get someone in quick just for an extra few days with the team imo. |
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Post by dittonaddick on Sept 4, 2023 10:55:05 GMT
Cawley saying final stage interviews Tues and Weds with decision shortly after. Means a week of training being lost, which is a shame. Oh nice. Better to make sure we've gone through a thorough process than rush to get someone in quick just for an extra few days with the team imo. Don't disagree, but do feel it would be possible to get final stages done today and tomorrow with decision made Tuesday PM. Would give Weds recover from trophy game before a proper kick on with new plans Thursday |
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Post by seriouslyred on Sept 4, 2023 11:02:27 GMT
I have no problems with players leaving between seasons. For me the January transfer window should be restricted to prevent poaching. I'd quite like to see players "league tied" so they can't switch at least within the same division or possibly at all if they've been a regular at their club. This was our best season and we had ambition that was taken away from us. Scott Parker could have agreed the move to Chelsea to happen at the end of the season and worked in Mourinho's new team. For me any club wishing to move upwards in the pyramid should be prepared to lose both players and staff to bigger fish. Brighton, Brentford and Southampton have all made small fortunes from sales. But CAFC hasn't been landing young players, developing them and selling them on. If Leaburn shines for the rest of the season then big bids will come in and we can't stand in his way. Whoever lands the job needs to discuss exit of the best as well as lesser players with Scott. And that means recruiting well else we are left with "dead wood" that can't be shifted. I'm amazed that we have shifted as many Sandgaard signings as we have in the two 2023 windows. |
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Post by seriouslyred on Sept 4, 2023 11:05:42 GMT
Oh nice. Better to make sure we've gone through a thorough process than rush to get someone in quick just for an extra few days with the team imo. Don't disagree, but do feel it would be possible to get final stages done today and tomorrow with decision made Tuesday PM. Would give Weds recover from trophy game before a proper kick on with new plans Thursday So it's a day or two lost but also an additional day to digest performances and result from Saturday. And tomorrow night at Crawley. Nothing in the bigger picture. Still the same challenge vs Stevenage away and the same aspiration to beat the lesser teams whislt competing with the top eight or nine. |
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Post by sevenoaks on Sept 4, 2023 11:15:01 GMT
Went on strike , refusing to play. Speeding up move to Chelsea.. He was then and probably is still our highest ever wage earner on c25,000 a week, enough to make you very rich. Chelsea doubled that to £50,000 a week enough to make you very rich for life and security for your whole family in the future. I know what I would do given that choice. Indeed, anyone would. But strike, while under contract? |
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Post by AndyB on Sept 4, 2023 11:22:47 GMT
Cawley saying final stage interviews Tues and Weds with decision shortly after. Means a week of training being lost, which is a shame. To be fair they will still train under Pearcey - probably not a bad thing with how shocking the defence has been ! |
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Post by manikin on Sept 4, 2023 11:36:25 GMT
Oh nice. Better to make sure we've gone through a thorough process than rush to get someone in quick just for an extra few days with the team imo. Don't disagree, but do feel it would be possible to get final stages done today and tomorrow with decision made Tuesday PM. Would give Weds recover from trophy game before a proper kick on with new plans Thursday I suppose it depends how many have been interviewed and how long the list is to be whittled down. |
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Post by surreyaddick on Sept 4, 2023 12:00:27 GMT
Would be interesting to know how many are in the final interview stage and who
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 4, 2023 12:10:40 GMT
Would be interesting to know how many are in the final interview stage and who I reckon Scotty Parker is slowly but surely creeping up that list. Welcome to ITTV surreyaddick. 👍 |
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 4, 2023 12:12:21 GMT
Cawley saying final stage interviews Tues and Weds with decision shortly after. Means a week of training being lost, which is a shame. Oh nice. Better to make sure we've gone through a thorough process than rush to get someone in quick just for an extra few days with the team imo. Not really. They will be off on Wednesday after playing on Tuesday night. Start afresh next week hopefully with Scott Parker....Thunderbirds are go! 😀 |
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Post by se7jw on Sept 4, 2023 12:14:05 GMT
Would be interesting to know how many are in the final interview stage and who I reckon Scotty Parker is slowly but surely creeping up that list. Welcome to ITTV surreyaddick. 👍 Would be shocked if we had spoken to him, I couldn't see him fancying League 1. |
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Post by cafcph on Sept 4, 2023 12:20:19 GMT
If I we’re selecting a suitable candidate, I’d be checking to see if any of the shortlist bothers to go and watch the pizza cup game.
Good indication to see if someone is seriously considering the role and have the right attitude. Doing their homework on the team.
I’d be surprised if we don’t put out a reasonable side bearing in mind our recent results. It’s not like we have a game this weekend.
Obviously not the only criteria.
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Post by manikin on Sept 4, 2023 12:23:39 GMT
If I we’re selecting a suitable candidate, I’d be checking to see if any of the shortlist bothers to go and watch the pizza cup game. Good indication to see if someone is seriously considering the role and have the right attitude. Doing their homework on the team. I’d be surprised if we don’t put out a reasonable side bearing in mind our recent results. It’s not like we have a game this weekend. Obviously not the only criteria. Agree, I think we will put out a strong team. |
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Post by mersthamred on Sept 4, 2023 12:35:10 GMT
Everyone has the right to better themselves but there is also the moral right to do the correct thing. Both Parker and Taylor at the time of their departures owed the club. Parkers development and progress through the "ranks" was down to the club and coaching staff, he'd just signed a new five year deal, of course we don't know what would have happened over the rest of the season had he stayed but we were a much better team with him. If Taylor had played in the last few games at the end of the season and scored one or two goals there's every chance we would have stayed up and he also owed the club, he left a better player than when he arrived. Had both stayed and seen out their respective seasons they would have left with the full respect and admiration of the fans. It's also possible their carreers would have panned out better, particularly Parker. For those who didn't see Scott Parker for Charlton you just cannot understate just how good he was. He was like 2 players in one and when he left the gap he left was massive. He could have been a great but left too soon. Would prefer Nathan Jones but if Scott then fine, why bear a grudge? |
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Post by steve2707 on Sept 4, 2023 12:40:13 GMT
I guarantee Alfie May won't start tomorrow...
If he was to be booked, he'd be suspended for Stevenage. And with Leaburn still short of minutes and Tedic still being bedded in, that could be a disaster.
I expecting the strikers tomorrow to be Tedic and Kanu. With Leaburn coming on at about the 60 minute mark, to get about half an hour.
Also expecting at least 2 of the other new boys to get a run out.
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Post by manikin on Sept 4, 2023 12:41:54 GMT
Everyone has the right to better themselves but there is also the moral right to do the correct thing. Both Parker and Taylor at the time of their departures owed the club. Parkers development and progress through the "ranks" was down to the club and coaching staff, he'd just signed a new five year deal, of course we don't know what would have happened over the rest of the season had he stayed but we were a much better team with him. If Taylor had played in the last few games at the end of the season and scored one or two goals there's every chance we would have stayed up and he also owed the club, he left a better player than when he arrived. Had both stayed and seen out their respective seasons they would have left with the full respect and admiration of the fans. It's also possible their carreers would have panned out better, particularly Parker. For those who didn't see Scott Parker for Charlton you just cannot understate just how good he was. He was like 2 players in one and when he left the gap he left was massive. He could have been a great but left too soon. Would prefer Nathan Jones but if Scott then fine, why bear a grudge? |
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Post by sevenoaks on Sept 4, 2023 12:44:05 GMT
For those who didn't see Scott Parker for Charlton you just cannot understate just how good he was. He was like 2 players in one and when he left the gap he left was massive. He could have been a great but left too soon. Would prefer Nathan Jones but if Scott then fine, why bear a grudge? Perhaps, if he was named manager, he may even force a smile... |
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Post by manikin on Sept 4, 2023 12:46:43 GMT
For those who didn't see Scott Parker for Charlton you just cannot understate just how good he was. He was like 2 players in one and when he left the gap he left was massive. He could have been a great but left too soon. Would prefer Nathan Jones but if Scott then fine, why bear a grudge? Totally agree, would love to see Nathan Jones get the job. But whoever it's is I wish them well, if they get us playing and entertain the crowds and get us out of this league everything else is water under the bridge. |
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Post by addickted2021 on Sept 4, 2023 12:58:57 GMT
I reckon Scotty Parker is slowly but surely creeping up that list. Welcome to ITTV surreyaddick. 👍 Would be shocked if we had spoken to him, I couldn't see him fancying League 1. Or Charlton |
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Post by statto on Sept 4, 2023 13:28:27 GMT
Everyone has the right to better themselves but there is also the moral right to do the correct thing. Both Parker and Taylor at the time of their departures owed the club. Parkers development and progress through the "ranks" was down to the club and coaching staff, he'd just signed a new five year deal, of course we don't know what would have happened over the rest of the season had he stayed but we were a much better team with him. If Taylor had played in the last few games at the end of the season and scored one or two goals there's every chance we would have stayed up and he also owed the club, he left a better player than when he arrived. Had both stayed and seen out their respective seasons they would have left with the full respect and admiration of the fans. It's also possible their carreers would have panned out better, particularly Parker. For those who didn't see Scott Parker for Charlton you just cannot understate just how good he was. He was like 2 players in one and when he left the gap he left was massive. He could have been a great but left too soon. Would prefer Nathan Jones but if Scott then fine, why bear a grudge? You're right, Scott Parker was just everywhere in our midfield the season he left. Crunching tackles, surging runs, and I believe just prior to his move he scored a couple from outside the box. He was magnificent that season, and arguably single handedly dragged us up into champions league contention. However, he never really replicated that form for the remainder of his career in my opinion, so I think personally he was just peaking as a footballer in ability and form. So I think he already was great, but that was his greatest period, and Charlton got it. |
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Post by AndyAddick on Sept 4, 2023 13:59:59 GMT
Went on strike , refusing to play. Speeding up move to Chelsea.. He was then and probably is still our highest ever wage earner on c25,000 a week, enough to make you very rich. Chelsea doubled that to £50,000 a week enough to make you very rich for life and security for your whole family in the future. I know what I would do given that choice. It’s a business, not a hobby . Parker owed us noting |
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Post by stu2020 on Sept 4, 2023 14:04:08 GMT
I reckon Scotty Parker is slowly but surely creeping up that list. Welcome to ITTV surreyaddick. 👍 Would be shocked if we had spoken to him, I couldn't see him fancying League 1. no way he's moving to L1 to manage... it's not happening |
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Sept 4, 2023 14:34:20 GMT
Went on strike , refusing to play. Speeding up move to Chelsea.. He was then and probably is still our highest ever wage earner on c25,000 a week, enough to make you very rich. Chelsea doubled that to £50,000 a week enough to make you very rich for life and security for your whole family in the future. I know what I would do given that choice. The figures ITK types quoted at the time were than he was on £16k with us and £45k at Chelsea. I remain convinced Chelsea signed him more to hobble us than help them (given he was just a bench warmer with the CMs they already had). We were 5th at the time and had been closing the gap on 4th place Chelsea week by week. Although we still finished 7th I'm convinced we would have qualified for Europe if he'd stayed. I blame Abramovich rather than Parker though. Who would really turn down trebled wages for less (on pitch time) work? |
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Post by cafcph on Sept 4, 2023 15:01:33 GMT
He was then and probably is still our highest ever wage earner on c25,000 a week, enough to make you very rich. Chelsea doubled that to £50,000 a week enough to make you very rich for life and security for your whole family in the future. I know what I would do given that choice. The figures ITK types quoted at the time were than he was on £16k with us and £45k at Chelsea. I remain convinced Chelsea signed him more to hobble us than help them (given he was just a bench warmer with the CMs they already had). We were 5th at the time and had been closing the gap on 4th place Chelsea week by week. Although we still finished 7th I'm convinced we would have qualified for Europe if he'd stayed. I blame Abramovich rather than Parker though. Who would really turn down trebled wages for less (on pitch time) work? 100% bought to screw up our progress. If I remember correctly, chelsea were out of form, we were in form and catching.. I still can’t to this day, understand why nobody worked Parker’s classic turn. He’d be standing still, facing his own goal then make a clockwise 180 and get away with it every time. |
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Post by se7sm on Sept 4, 2023 15:06:16 GMT
Would be interesting to know how many are in the final interview stage and who I reckon Scotty Parker is slowly but surely creeping up that list. Welcome to ITTV surreyaddick. 👍 what you heard reams not even in the betting shall I get my money out?😁 |
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