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Post by se7sm on Jun 17, 2023 7:08:24 GMT
Yeah, probably wishful thinking for me , seems strange, reading healthy relationship with Palace š
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Post by imjustakidagain on Jun 17, 2023 7:48:10 GMT
This is where we are at isnāt it, I donāt think there is much point getting excited until the deal goes through.
Realistically TS isnāt going to part with cash at the end is he.
I expect a couple of frees maybe and then hopefully the new structure have their ducks in line to pull in their people quickly once itās gone through.
š¤ this happens quickly as I feel like they are going to get us a solid squad if it all goes through in time - that two week delay from TS now feels like it could cost us
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Post by mikebassett on Jun 17, 2023 7:58:51 GMT
We havenāt really learnt a lot but Storrie will be gagged in regards to what he can and canāt say whilst there is a takeover going on but still, these sorts of meetings are important and much needed, if not exactly detail filled at the minute.
I doubt that there is a top six budget available and I admire the ambition and do think Holden could be capable of delivering under normal circumstances but while the takeover is ongoing, weāll work with the āoldā budget and so, I suspect that will effect who we can and cannot attract in the summer.
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Post by Tom1982 on Jun 17, 2023 8:27:31 GMT
Most of what I say on here is tongue in cheek, but letās have it right. Things are finally looking up, whilst we arenāt quite over the line yet, itās just a matter of a few weeks to finalise it all. We might miss a few targets whilst the new lot hose the gaff down after the mess Mr Sandgaard left but itās going to be a good season at last. Iād still like to know what formation Holden will be leaning towards, at least then we can all start thinking of who weād like to see in the line up come August.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 17, 2023 9:03:28 GMT
It's basically what I was telling you yesterday plus I know for a fact that we are leaning on the EFL because our new investors have just seen Wigan takeover take 10 days!
Some of the inestors in the group are worth more than most L1 owners and they are just going to have a minority share at the club so imagine the wedge involved when you combine some of thes names!
As for Banks, Palace know there is interest so of course they are going to offer him a new contract, it's worth their while to do so if they receive a fee or a hefty loan fee for his services.
Despite what some of the news outlets are saying, I think the OADT will be cleared sooner rather than later but like I said throughout the whole takeover saga, the longer TS dwells on signing the SP, the more of an impact it will have on us being able to sign players early. I said this on countless occasions.
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jun 17, 2023 9:11:33 GMT
It's basically what I was telling you yesterday plus I know for a fact that we are leaning on the EFL because our new investors have just seen Wigan takeover take 10 days! Some of the inestors in the group are worth more than most L1 owners and they are just going to have a minority share at the club so imagine the wedge involved when you combine some of thes names! As for Banks, Palace know there is interest so of course they are going to offer him a new contract, it's worth their while to do so if they receive a fee or aa hefty loan fee for his services. Despite what some of the news outlets are saying, I think the OADT will be cleared sooner rather than later. All sounds really positive news about our future mate My only concern though is the here and now and for all of Storries bluster about us still having a top 6 budget I just canāt see TS spending money on his way out Ideally the new owners will come in ASAP but in the interim other clubs will be swooping in and bagging all the best quality frees and loans that are available now leaving us to play catch up Maybe the May senario now is that we will have to wait for the new owner confirmation before we can pay the fee for himā¦ā¦.thoughts? |
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Post by scoham on Jun 17, 2023 9:11:54 GMT
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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 17, 2023 9:18:01 GMT
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Post by bexleyboy on Jun 17, 2023 9:57:17 GMT
Donāt think PS told us anything we donāt all ready know thanks to Reams .. think the Wigan situation may be very different because there staff were not getting paid and that was affecting personal lifeās .. ??
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Post by bexleyboy on Jun 17, 2023 10:41:49 GMT
It's basically what I was telling you yesterday plus I know for a fact that we are leaning on the EFL because our new investors have just seen Wigan takeover take 10 days! Some of the inestors in the group are worth more than most L1 owners and they are just going to have a minority share at the club so imagine the wedge involved when you combine some of thes names! As for Banks, Palace know there is interest so of course they are going to offer him a new contract, it's worth their while to do so if they receive a fee or aa hefty loan fee for his services. Despite what some of the news outlets are saying, I think the OADT will be cleared sooner rather than later. All sounds really positive news about our future mate My only concern though is the here and now and for all of Storries bluster about us still having a top 6 budget I just canāt see TS spending money on his way out Ideally the new owners will come in ASAP but in the interim other clubs will be swooping in and bagging all the best quality frees and loans that are available now leaving us to play catch up Maybe the May senario now is that we will have to wait for the new owner confirmation before we can pay the fee for himā¦ā¦.thoughts? No thatās not what was said .. if that was the case why would we put an offer in and have it accepted ?? |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 17, 2023 10:44:51 GMT
Hilarious reading dodger on twitter still getting it wrong about the paperwork.
Clueless.
The tweet: ā Pretty sure Mr Dodger has been saying for weeks that no paperwork had been submitted to the EFL but people were too busy taking notice of some bellend from Wales and his piss pot forum ittv.ā
Honestly, the paperwork submitted weeks ago.
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jun 17, 2023 10:49:33 GMT
All sounds really positive news about our future mate My only concern though is the here and now and for all of Storries bluster about us still having a top 6 budget I just canāt see TS spending money on his way out Ideally the new owners will come in ASAP but in the interim other clubs will be swooping in and bagging all the best quality frees and loans that are available now leaving us to play catch up Maybe the May senario now is that we will have to wait for the new owner confirmation before we can pay the fee for himā¦ā¦.thoughts? No thatās not what was said .. if that was the case why would we put an offer in and have it accepted ?? You believe everything you hear mate, if I told you I was good looking I think you would even believe this as wellā¦. Fee all agreed with May thenā¦ā¦ well where is he then, I canāt see anything on the OS I am just giving my opinion ā¦. Has Cawley confirmed that we have had a fee agreed? He tends to be in the know I just donāt believe everything which is written in the Gloucestershire press |
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Post by petetongthereturn on Jun 17, 2023 10:53:18 GMT
So the majority of the necessary paper work has gone in with the financial paperwork from the club āhopefully next weekā.
This is not great timing for Holden/us for getting a capable squad for top 6 let alone top two.
Letās hope Sandgaardās freebies be up to scratch and keep us in touching distance of the top 6 come January when the new ownership will be in place.
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Post by se7sm on Jun 17, 2023 11:06:34 GMT
Whoās the bellend from wales
ššwhy do you bother reading reams itās bollocks
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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 17, 2023 11:09:51 GMT
So the majority of the necessary paper work has gone in with the financial paperwork from the club āhopefully next weekā. This is not great timing for Holden/us for getting a capable squad for top 6 let alone top two. Letās hope Sandgaardās freebies be up to scratch and keep us in touching distance of the top 6 come January when the new ownership will be in place. He said he expects the buyerās share agreement will go to the EFL and FA on Monday. OADT forms are with the EFL. Isn't this what I have been saying all along? Said for weeks the forms are with the EFL regarding the OADT test and they were three weks away whehn TS pulled the plug in January. I have also said more recently once the SPA has been signed it will need to be ratified and that could take a little bit of time but the longer TS drags it out the more or a problem it would become. People can call me what they like, I really don't give a f**k to be honest, they can twist it and call me a liar all day long and I wouldn't batter an eyelid, one because they are wrong and two, they are an insignificance in my life. I'll continue listening to those who are involved and not those who think they do. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 17, 2023 11:16:21 GMT
Whoās the bellend from wales ššwhy do you bother reading reams itās bollocks I don't mate, a couple of guys on here have sent me the tweet! There's a reason his twitter page is private, obviously likes dishing it out but doesn't want to be corrected or give people the oportinity to defend themselves. To be fair Wayne is a decent chap. He has had a line that the deal needs Roland's approval and he is sticking to it. Itās not the case so the best way to deal with it is to ignore it. He's obviously getting mixed up about the lease that might of needed Roland's approval but as I have been saying and since been confirmed by PS, the lease has never been an issue, the buyers have spoken briefly to the Sandgard's out of courtesy but the lease will just continue as it was. |
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Post by norfolkrobin on Jun 17, 2023 11:32:47 GMT
It's basically what I was telling you yesterday plus I know for a fact that we are leaning on the EFL because our new investors have just seen Wigan takeover take 10 days! Some of the inestors in the group are worth more than most L1 owners and they are just going to have a minority share at the club so imagine the wedge involved when you combine some of thes names! As for Banks, Palace know there is interest so of course they are going to offer him a new contract, it's worth their while to do so if they receive a fee or aa hefty loan fee for his services. Despite what some of the news outlets are saying, I think the OADT will be cleared sooner rather than later. All sounds really positive news about our future mate My only concern though is the here and now and for all of Storries bluster about us still having a top 6 budget I just canāt see TS spending money on his way out Ideally the new owners will come in ASAP but in the interim other clubs will be swooping in and bagging all the best quality frees and loans that are available now leaving us to play catch up Maybe the May senario now is that we will have to wait for the new owner confirmation before we can pay the fee for himā¦ā¦.thoughts? Just quickly skimming that PS update,all Documentation not fully submitted yet!?....am I reading that right? I don't expect the EFL to fast track us,but we could be what worse case,I don't know a month? From being signed off? I know patience is needed,and it'll be worth it in the long run....but we can't expect targets to sit tight and wait.I would like to think they would,but I'm sure again hesitation/red tape will leave us with 2nd,3rd,4th choices. Alfie May will have options,would've been a good start IMHO. |
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Post by scoham on Jun 17, 2023 11:59:26 GMT
Perhaps the Palace OS is wrong or they activated a 1 year extension. The latter could be done with an aim of getting a fee for him. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 17, 2023 12:05:30 GMT
Mate, I'm not going to go over it all again. People have taken snippets of what has been said in that fans group and decided that SE7 and their multiple investors have not submitted all of the paperwork yet. I'm not saying you are one of them but there are a few out there who are spinning this and I'm just going to leave them to it because it's easier to do so.
If others have a craving to influence people's minds, let them get on with it. If they want to feed off 2nd and 3rd hand information then they are leaving themselves wide open to ridicule. The reason I get the abuse is I am getting the information from source they aren't. Furthermore it's coming by telephone directly from some of the people involved. I'm not reading things on a website and putting two and two together and getting five!!
Another cause of the absue is that while I can't disclose everything that is going on, these people know I know because of where it's coming from and they resent it and go out of their way to try and chop me down. Believe me, and I don't mean to come a cross as 'I know something that you don't nana na na na'; but me every single question asked on that article that appeared this morning, I know the answer to and then some and that's why I am not having the hysterics others are.
Business gets done in private and thatās where it stays until I can share more or somebody speaks to official channels. In the meantime I'm going to ignore social media trolls because they are not a reflection of real life or society.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 17, 2023 12:06:21 GMT
Perhaps the Palace OS is wrong or they activated a 1 year extension. The latter could be done with an aim of getting a fee for him. Perhaps mate, as long as he comes to us that's the main thing. |
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Post by bexleyboy on Jun 17, 2023 12:34:06 GMT
was hoping that banks was a target for a permanent signing and not in palaces plans as he was coming to the end of his contract. My point was we wouldnāt be able to compete wage wise what palace can offer him and more chance of him ending up elsewhere on loan I think with the healthy relationship that we have with Palace we are more likely to get him on loan than if we were competing with other clubs for his perm signature And that relation is down to SG |
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Post by bexleyboy on Jun 17, 2023 12:35:18 GMT
All sounds really positive news about our future mate My only concern though is the here and now and for all of Storries bluster about us still having a top 6 budget I just canāt see TS spending money on his way out Ideally the new owners will come in ASAP but in the interim other clubs will be swooping in and bagging all the best quality frees and loans that are available now leaving us to play catch up Maybe the May senario now is that we will have to wait for the new owner confirmation before we can pay the fee for himā¦ā¦.thoughts? Just quickly skimming that PS update,all Documentation not fully submitted yet!?....am I reading that right? I don't expect the EFL to fast track us,but we could be what worse case,I don't know a month? From being signed off? I know patience is needed,and it'll be worth it in the long run....but we can't expect targets to sit tight and wait.I would like to think they would,but I'm sure again hesitation/red tape will leave us with 2nd,3rd,4th choices. Alfie May will have options,would've been a good start IMHO. May as two options us or Cheltenham we are the only club to make an offer for him |
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Jun 17, 2023 12:40:20 GMT
Most interesting bit for me in the Storrie interview: "He said he expects the buyerās share agreement will go to the EFL and FA on Monday."
Presumably this is the document that lists exactly what % of the club will be owned by each holding company (and the % splits of individual ownership therein).
Reams has mentioned other investors being added to the deal in recent weeks and the fact this document is only going in on Monday seems to confirm that, as well as suggesting all parties are now on board and percentages set.
Whilst we won't know the details until the process is complete (and maybe not all of it even then if some percentages are hidden behind the obfuscation of Cayman Islands banking) I'd say that particular document going in on Monday is the most important/interesting element of all of the paperwork for us fans.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 17, 2023 13:17:54 GMT
Just quickly skimming that PS update,all Documentation not fully submitted yet!?....am I reading that right? I don't expect the EFL to fast track us,but we could be what worse case,I don't know a month? From being signed off? I know patience is needed,and it'll be worth it in the long run....but we can't expect targets to sit tight and wait.I would like to think they would,but I'm sure again hesitation/red tape will leave us with 2nd,3rd,4th choices. Alfie May will have options,would've been a good start IMHO. May as two options us or Cheltenham we are the only club to make an offer for him No offer has been made, I have had that confirmed this morning. We have asked to his availability what he would cost but no official bid has yet been put on the table. I have gone back to the guy who mentioned to me that he was having a medical yesterday and he has told me that he had beenn misled. |
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Post by hazholden19 on Jun 17, 2023 13:41:22 GMT
Personally I donāt reckon we will pay any fees for people till Sangarrd goes. He didnāt last summer. And nothing will change. Why would he continue to spend money on something when he has his ticket out. Itās like your in the process of selling a house, you would continue to improve it when youāve agreed a sale for it?.
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Post by seriouslyred on Jun 17, 2023 13:46:07 GMT
Mate, I'm not going to go over it all again. People have taken snippets of what has been said in that fans group and decided that SE7 and their multiple investors have not submitted all of the paperwork yet. I'm not saying you are one of them but there are a few out there who are spinning this and I'm just going to leave them to it because it's easier to do so. If others have a craving to influence people's minds, let them get on with it. If they want to feed off 2nd and 3rd hand information then they are leaving themselves wide open to ridicule. The reason I get the abuse is I am getting the information from source they aren't. Furthermore it's coming by telephone directly from some of the people involved. I'm not reading things on a website and putting two and two together and getting five!! Another cause of the absue is that while I can't disclose everything that is going on, these people know I know because of where it's coming from and they resent it and go out of their way to try and chop me down. Believe me, and I don't mean to come a cross as 'I know something that you don't nana na na na'; but me every single question asked on that article that appeared this morning, I know the answer to and then some and that's why I am not having the hysterics others are. Business gets done in private and thatās where it stays until I can share more or somebody speaks to official channels. In the meantime I'm going to ignore social media trolls because they are not a reflection of real life or society. Leaving aside all of the spin and noise, it isn't that complicated: Sandgaard terminated the SE7 Partners deal 10th Feb in favour of Spiegel. That didn't mature into an SPA so SE7 back in with an improved offer, this time for 100%. The price was agreed fairly quickly but Sandgaard took longer than hoped to agree SPA detail. It's reasonable to assert that CAFC (Storrie) and SE7 Partners took the following week to submit the paperwork. And now the ball is with the EFL team to assess, challenge, ask questions etc. Who knows how many cycles of Q&A between EFL & CAFC / SE7, but the expectation is an approved deal in July. In the meantime Sandgaard Jr. is still analysing players but according to Storrie itās Holden, Gallen and Storrie who make the decision on who to sign. And after consultation with SE7 Partners if expenditure more than x. www.charltonafc.com/news/storrie-takeover-process-and-summer-transfer-windowLet's see where we are in a month's time. |
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Post by seriouslyred on Jun 17, 2023 13:53:25 GMT
Most interesting bit for me in the Storrie interview: "He said he expects the buyerās share agreement will go to the EFL and FA on Monday." Presumably this is the document that lists exactly what % of the club will be owned by each holding company (and the % splits of individual ownership therein). Reams has mentioned other investors being added to the deal in recent weeks and the fact this document is only going in on Monday seems to confirm that, as well as suggesting all parties are now on board and percentages set. Whilst we won't know the details until the process is complete (and maybe not all of it even then if some percentages are hidden behind the obfuscation of Cayman Islands banking) I'd say that particular document going in on Monday is the most important/interesting element of all of the paperwork for us fans. Makes sense that the OADT was submitted a while back with this part relating to source and sufficiency of funds. That's to say who owns what % and which two or three are actually funding the deal together with the operating losses for next season and the one after. Who knows how long the EFL will take to evaluate nor how many questions they will have? |
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Post by cafcscp on Jun 17, 2023 14:07:03 GMT
Seems like Dodger has taken PS by his word in that he said paperwork would be submitted on Monday.
PS could perhaps of been a little clearer re what has already been submitted.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jun 17, 2023 14:33:12 GMT
Seems like Dodger has taken PS by his word in that he said paperwork would be submitted on Monday. PS could perhaps of been a little clearer re what has already been submitted. I agree he's done just that because he's looking for fault every chance he gets. I have covered every scenario on here and I'm not going to go over it again for his benefit, he's just setting himself for a fall which I don't get at all. PS said some parts of it are confidential and they are for a reason. One word out of place here, or a tentaive response there will always play into the doubters hands. I said what the process was yesterday on here and so far it is progressing well. Bit's of different paperwork will get requested by the EFL as the OADT test goes along, it's exactly the same with the SPA, you don't submit everything at once, it's in stages and what goes off on Monday is exactly that, it's the submittance of what is required for the next phase. There is absolutely nothing to see in that Fans questions session with the club. Nobody got the answers they wanted because they can't be shared so people have just made the answers up instead! |
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Post by valleysun on Jun 17, 2023 15:18:12 GMT
Gills step up there interest with alfie may but I donāt know if we will get him whilst sangaard still in control
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