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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 12, 2021 21:05:51 GMT
Never mind the comeback tonight, it was Rochdale FFS and the only reason we were chasing the game is because of yet more chopping and changing from Bowyer.
You pick your strongest side, your best side and that was the one that was assembled at half time, the 46th minute when it should have been the first.
Yet more players asking to be played out of position and Smyth at RB cost us two goals.
Bowyer spends the first half of games experimenting, still trying to find solutions and it's not good enough.
We saw what we are capable of in the second half but as I say, it;s 45 minutes two late.
TS.....do the right thing, sack him and put Curbs in charge for the remainder of the season and see where we are in May. If it works out then he's your man. If we miss out on promotion, which I would say is a certainty now then at least he will be on the payroll and can be moved upstairs as DoF.
Bowyer has had his time. You just cannot concede four goals at home and he is the reason why we did with his ridiculous thinking.
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Post by Don't Knowitall on Jan 12, 2021 21:15:37 GMT
Bowyer is tactically inept. His 'achievements' over the past two seasons are over exaggerated.
He's not a very good manager, it's that simple.
Thomas Sandgaard however, is a people pleaser and until the MAJORITY of the fanbase are against Bowyer, he will be here until the end of the season.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 12, 2021 21:25:36 GMT
Bowyer is tactically inept. His 'achievements' over the past two seasons are over exaggerated. He's not a very manager, it's that simple. Thomas Sandgaard however, is a people pleaser and until the MAJORITY of the fanbase are against Bowyer, he will be here until the end of the season. That's about it mate, it's where we are. |
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Post by seriouslyred on Jan 12, 2021 21:25:38 GMT
The target is the top six. We are about 4 points off the halfway target of 37 points after 23 games.
Nobody is getting sacked right now but the writing is on the wall unless results turn.
Miller and Schwartz have been superb signings and must start in the front six along with Aneke so no more Bogle. But the formation, tactics and selection should be settled by now.
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Post by whynot on Jan 12, 2021 21:25:55 GMT
I said before that I would give LB the season. But after tonight I think you may be right.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 12, 2021 21:28:35 GMT
He's on Valley Pass talking about showing character after last Saturday's game. Err...It was Friday night Lee!!  |
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Post by wellingaddick on Jan 12, 2021 21:29:18 GMT
It was another bad and baffling decision in dealing with Baah in that first half. It just has to stop, but there is no sign of it doing so. Every game it seems now, there is at least one player played out of position, with the inevitable consequences. I don't know what the owner is thinking, but his patience can't be inexhaustible.
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Post by dartford36 on Jan 12, 2021 21:40:38 GMT
That games are being played in empty stadiums could oddly be in Bowyer’s favour as I doubt even a half full Valley would put up with recent performances without getting vocal and showing their displeasure. It’s only via social media will Sandgaard be aware, if he’s not already, that some of the fans are unhappy with the way the team is set up and the overall performance. A red hot Valley voicing their displeasure would be more likely to put the owner under pressure to make a decision on the manager, and his back up team, rather than a silent, cold Valley on a Tuesday night in January.
Mind you, having said that, it’s more than likely that had there been spectators tonight, at the final whistle, having pulled back to draw the crowd would overlook the dross and be cheering to the rafters a magnificent fight back.
Bowyer will always be a fan’s favourite but patience wears thin over time particularly when results don’t go as the fans would want. Whether the owner will bite the bullet and make a decision to relieve Bowyer of his duties remains to be seen.
Perhaps Sandgaard being a suppressed rock star will prefer the status quo instead of the madness currently on offer.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 12, 2021 21:42:02 GMT
The target is the top six. We are about 4 points off the halfway target of 37 points after 23 games. Nobody is getting sacked right now but the writing is on the wall unless results turn. Miller and Schwartz have been superb signings and must start in the front six along with Aneke so no more Bogle. But the formation, tactics and selection should be settled by now. Look at the games played and then look at our recent results. Points per game we are around 12th in the league. MK Dons H (16th) L Shrewsbury A (17th) D Wimbledon H (21st) W Swindon A (22nd) D Plymouth H (15th) D Hull A (2nd) L Accrington H (6th) L Rochdale H (18th) D |
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Post by dartford36 on Jan 12, 2021 21:44:00 GMT
I said before that I would give LB the season. But after tonight I think you may be right. At least you’ve got the Cayman Islands weather - 29 degrees😎👍🏻 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2021 21:55:36 GMT
The reason we drew that game was down to Bowyer. Smyth playing as a right wing back, he is a striker. Oshilaja is right footed but was played the left of a three. Pearce is left footed but was played as a right. His tinkering is costing us. For fucks sake play people in their correct positions. Stop trying to be clever. Rochdale were there for the taking.
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Post by petetongthereturn on Jan 12, 2021 21:58:05 GMT
And he took Williams off when we was on the front foot and out plodder Washington on.
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Post by roburwash on Jan 12, 2021 22:01:42 GMT
This thread is an example of how to undermine the morale of a club. The bitterness and negativity on this site is poisonous.
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Post by discocafc on Jan 12, 2021 22:03:49 GMT
Lee Bowyer at Charlton.
Season 1 - L1 Playoffs
Season 2 - L1 Promotion
Season 3 - Almost kept us in the Champ with a worse side than we had in L1.
ALL UNDER ONE OF, IF NOT THE WORST OWNERS WE'VE EVER HAD.
Season 4 - Great start, but now having a wobble.
Sack him... really?
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 12, 2021 22:06:29 GMT
This thread is an example of how to undermine the morale of a club. The bitterness and negativity on this site is poisonous. Fans saying the same on most forums and social media so go and bash those places too. Only person who is stirring the shit is you pal. |
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Post by Don't Knowitall on Jan 12, 2021 22:09:26 GMT
Lee Bowyer at Charlton. Season 1 - L1 Playoffs Season 2 - L1 Promotion Season 3 - Almost kept us in the Champ with a worse side than we had in L1. ALL UNDER ONE OF, IF NOT THE WORST OWNERS WE'VE EVER HAD. Season 4 - Great start, but now having a wobble. Sack him... really? . Season 1 - L1 Playoffs, with a top 3 budget. Season 2 - L1 Promotion, with a top 2 budget and arguably the best squad in the division. Season 3 - Relegated Season 4 - Humiliated by the likes of Rochdale and Burton Albion, playing strikers at wing back and midfielders at centre half. Publicly blaming everybody other than himself. There you go, fixed it for you. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2021 22:12:06 GMT
Bowyer said after the game tonight that Sandgaard is willing to sign him more players in January. The problem is that we are at the max. We need to ship out some of the dross ASAP, and add a couple more of quality. Bogle has to go, and we’ve seen enough of the fraud Gilbey to know he’s not going to make it. If you could add a couple more decent signings and supplement the returning quality of Inniss, Famewo and Shinnie, we still have the chance to go on a run.
Above all, Bows needs ti analyse his own performance since November & quickly learn from his mistakes.,
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Post by roburwash on Jan 12, 2021 22:14:48 GMT
This thread is an example of how to undermine the morale of a club. The bitterness and negativity on this site is poisonous. Fans saying the same on most forums and social media so go and bash those places too. Only person who is stirring the shit is you pal. As you always says, just stating my opinion. |
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Post by bexleyboy on Jan 12, 2021 22:17:04 GMT
Bowyer said after the game tonight that Sandgaard is willing to sign him more players in January. The problem is that we are at the max. We need to ship out some of the dross ASAP, and add a couple more of quality. Bogle has to go, and we’ve seen enough of the fraud Gilbey to know he’s not going to make it. If you could add a couple more decent signings and supplement the returning quality of Inniss, Famewo and Shinnie, we still have the chance to go on a run. Above all, Bows needs ti analyse his own performance since November & quickly learn from his mistakes., Gilby is young and is a decent player .. you pick on him but what about Williams tonight what did he give to the team ... get rid of Williams |
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Post by twostroke on Jan 12, 2021 22:19:40 GMT
Scraping a draw at home against Rochdale barely 'papers over the cracks'
Curbs in to the end of the season, see if he can salvage it.
If Bowyer stays I fear a relegation struggle.
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Post by clarky on Jan 12, 2021 22:24:10 GMT
Bowyer said after the game tonight that Sandgaard is willing to sign him more players in January. The problem is that we are at the max. We need to ship out some of the dross ASAP, and add a couple more of quality. Bogle has to go, and we’ve seen enough of the fraud Gilbey to know he’s not going to make it. If you could add a couple more decent signings and supplement the returning quality of Inniss, Famewo and Shinnie, we still have the chance to go on a run. Above all, Bows needs ti analyse his own performance since November & quickly learn from his mistakes., Gilby is young and is a decent player .. you pick on him but what about Williams tonight what did he give to the team ... get rid of Williams Gilbey was aweful again and we looked better once he went off. When Willams went off we lost momentum. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 12, 2021 22:29:09 GMT
Lee Bowyer at Charlton. Season 1 - L1 Playoffs Season 2 - L1 Promotion Season 3 - Almost kept us in the Champ with a worse side than we had in L1. ALL UNDER ONE OF, IF NOT THE WORST OWNERS WE'VE EVER HAD. Season 4 - Great start, but now having a wobble. Sack him... really? So you think it's just a wobble?? Multiple mistakes is not a wobble, it's stupidity!! Unbelievable. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 12, 2021 22:31:19 GMT
Fans saying the same on most forums and social media so go and bash those places too. Only person who is stirring the shit is you pal. As you always says, just stating my opinion. I want what is best for the club, not what is best for Lee Bowyer. If he was not an ex-player there would be unanimous outcry at the moment that he is a manager taking us in the wrong direction and don't kid yourself into thinking otherwise. Have you not seen Sandgaard's likes on twitter tonight in response to Charlton fans calling for his head? |
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Post by whynot on Jan 12, 2021 23:04:24 GMT
I said before that I would give LB the season. But after tonight I think you may be right. At least you’ve got the Cayman Islands weather - 29 degrees😎👍🏻 Yes it's good to be me and no Covid on top of that. |
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Post by discocafc on Jan 12, 2021 23:04:32 GMT
Lee Bowyer at Charlton. Season 1 - L1 Playoffs Season 2 - L1 Promotion Season 3 - Almost kept us in the Champ with a worse side than we had in L1. ALL UNDER ONE OF, IF NOT THE WORST OWNERS WE'VE EVER HAD. Season 4 - Great start, but now having a wobble. Sack him... really? So you think it's just a wobble?? Multiple mistakes is not a wobble, it's stupidity!! Unbelievable. Remember Curbs having a few wobbles and some of his decisions were questionable at the time. Bet most of the fans calling for his head wished he still remained our manager the season after he left! Bowyer seems tied under the same brush except he’s still learning as a as a manager but if you compare him with Robbinson, Slade and even Parkinson to a degree Bowyer has achieved more than them 3 put together. He deserves a season IMO and see where we end up. |
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Post by discocafc on Jan 12, 2021 23:06:21 GMT
As you always says, just stating my opinion. I want what is best for the club, not what is best for Lee Bowyer. If he was not an ex-player there would be unanimous outcry at the moment that he is a manager taking us in the wrong direction and don't kid yourself into thinking otherwise. Have you not seen Sandgaard's likes on twitter tonight in response to Charlton fans calling for his head? I wouldn’t read too much into Sandgaard’s likes. He’s also like Bowyers support tweets as well. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 12, 2021 23:23:58 GMT
So you think it's just a wobble?? Multiple mistakes is not a wobble, it's stupidity!! Unbelievable. Remember Curbs having a few wobbles and some of his decisions were questionable at the time. Bet most of the fans calling for his head wished he still remained our manager the season after he left! Bowyer seems tied under the same brush except he’s still learning as a as a manager but if you compare him with Robbinson, Slade and even Parkinson to a degree Bowyer has achieved more than them 3 put together. He deserves a season IMO and see where we end up. How is repeating mistakes learning? How do you explain it as learning? You put a post on here 30 minutes ago covering his performance over four seasons so do you honestly believe a manager should be given four years and beyond to get things right at a club? Please tell me how you believe he has improved as a manager from this time last season. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 12, 2021 23:24:45 GMT
I want what is best for the club, not what is best for Lee Bowyer. If he was not an ex-player there would be unanimous outcry at the moment that he is a manager taking us in the wrong direction and don't kid yourself into thinking otherwise. Have you not seen Sandgaard's likes on twitter tonight in response to Charlton fans calling for his head? I wouldn’t read too much into Sandgaard’s likes. He’s also like Bowyers support tweets as well. Let's see if he still likes them in May. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2021 23:29:03 GMT
Lee Bowyer at Charlton. Season 1 - L1 Playoffs Season 2 - L1 Promotion Season 3 - Almost kept us in the Champ with a worse side than we had in L1. ALL UNDER ONE OF, IF NOT THE WORST OWNERS WE'VE EVER HAD. Season 4 - Great start, but now having a wobble. Sack him... really? He's not having a 'wobble' is he ? I assume you watch the games and it is clear that for the last 2+ months he consistently starts the game with the wrong players in the wrong positions and that is reflected in our results. That's not a wobble. It's incompetence. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jan 12, 2021 23:39:48 GMT
So you think it's just a wobble?? Multiple mistakes is not a wobble, it's stupidity!! Unbelievable. Remember Curbs having a few wobbles and some of his decisions were questionable at the time. Bet most of the fans calling for his head wished he still remained our manager the season after he left! Bowyer seems tied under the same brush except he’s still learning as a as a manager but if you compare him with Robbinson, Slade and even Parkinson to a degree Bowyer has achieved more than them 3 put together. He deserves a season IMO and see where we end up. Two wins from last 11 games, 20 goals conceded in last 10. You win nothing and we are going nowhere with those stats. You can't have a wobble that lasts a quarter of a season almost. |
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