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Post by MidlandRed on Nov 2, 2019 0:30:34 GMT
Making enemies on twitter again...
The lad really needs to take it down a peg
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Post by jeddez on Nov 2, 2019 0:55:28 GMT
Making enemies on twitter again... The lad really needs to take it down a peg However he does have a point to a degree. As long as they pay their tax then why exploit the fact they earn more, otherwise your force them abroad and the uk get nothing!
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Post by hairyhotdog on Nov 2, 2019 1:33:41 GMT
Making enemies on twitter again... The lad really needs to take it down a peg However he does have a point to a degree. As long as they pay their tax then why exploit the fact they earn more, otherwise your force them abroad and the uk get nothing! Gotta agree with you Jeddez , don’t see nothing wrong with Lyles comment , however Corbyn’s tweet.... now where do you start....!
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Post by lukepiestalker on Nov 2, 2019 7:02:50 GMT
Both statements are ignorant for different reasons but Lyle needs to realise there is poverty where he makes his riches and it's not just people who don't work. People who work are in poverty which is what needs changing as well as the many in the country who are trapped unable to work, for various reasons, some of which is simple geography.
Duke of Westminster dodged 2bn in taxes due to laws set up specifically to shelter money and make sure that the money he inherits never sees the tax pot. That is in no way fair.
Killing poverty is no bad thing. Re distributing wealth fairly is no bad thing either, however the way Corbyn is approaching it seems heavy handed.
Both have every right to speak however Lyle's come seem to come from folly of youth plus a far deeper ignorance, in my view. When older, I'd like to think he may change his ignorance.
There is only one fool in this exchange. Many people will struggle and sacrifice to buy tickets to see him gain his riches. Be more humble, son.
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Post by brian on Nov 2, 2019 8:32:06 GMT
Both statements are ignorant for different reasons but Lyle needs to realise there is poverty where he makes his riches and it's not just people who don't work. People who work are in poverty which is what needs changing as well as the many in the country who are trapped unable to work, for various reasons, some of which is simple geography. Duke of Westminster dodged 2bn in taxes due to laws set up specifically to shelter money and make sure that the money he inherits never sees the tax pot. That is in no way fair. Killing poverty is no bad thing. Re distributing wealth fairly is no bad thing either, however the way Corbyn is approaching it seems heavy handed. Both have every right to speak however Lyle's come seem to come from folly of youth plus a far deeper ignorance, in my view. When older, I'd like to think he may change his ignorance. There is only one fool in this exchange. Many people will struggle and sacrifice to buy tickets to see him gain his riches. Be more humble, son. Hey lukepiestalker Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. George Bernard Shaw What is a bad thing is to characterise someone as ignorant for having an opinion based on their experience and perceptions. Lyle has delighted us with his skill, perceptions, courage and I certainly admire his character on the football field. We don't envy those attributes or the intelligence that exercises them. That intelligence gives him as each one of us the right to our perception of our social order/disorder. Don't disrespect the man for disagreeing with you. I hope you grow out of it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 8:48:33 GMT
Lyle Taylor is one of those people who think they are intellectual, but are not. Was told by a member of AFC Wimbledon's staff that he was Bertie big bollocks.
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Post by jeddez on Nov 2, 2019 10:43:42 GMT
I think we should appreciate that he uses his fame to do great things for charity and raise awareness for different charities, there are many which don’t... Nobody is perfect and life is a learning curve...
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Post by MidlandRed on Nov 2, 2019 11:27:30 GMT
100% What he does outside of football is class and he must be in the small percentage of not only footballers but the wealthy/famous in general that use their status to help others
I just think the way he sometimes replies to fans who pay money to watch him and pay his wages is out of order Ah well, he will learn
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Post by essexaddick on Nov 2, 2019 12:07:32 GMT
I keep hearing these figures banded about like 14 million people are living in poverty. Now I know there are people living in poverty. But 14 million is quite a sizable number. Will someone please show me where they are. Because poverty to me means not having enough food to eat, no medical facilities, no clean water, no money at all and similar circumstances. You see this term "poverty" used to describe situations in some other countries ie Ethiopia, where that really is Poverty.
I know some people who are on benefits and some consider themselves in Poverty. But they all have mobile phones, Sky TV and their children have tablets. I am not saying they should not aspire to have these but conversely I would not describe this as being in poverty.
I think this term is sometimes used to easily.
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Post by lukepiestalker on Nov 2, 2019 12:27:08 GMT
Both statements are ignorant for different reasons but Lyle needs to realise there is poverty where he makes his riches and it's not just people who don't work. People who work are in poverty which is what needs changing as well as the many in the country who are trapped unable to work, for various reasons, some of which is simple geography. Duke of Westminster dodged 2bn in taxes due to laws set up specifically to shelter money and make sure that the money he inherits never sees the tax pot. That is in no way fair. Killing poverty is no bad thing. Re distributing wealth fairly is no bad thing either, however the way Corbyn is approaching it seems heavy handed. Both have every right to speak however Lyle's come seem to come from folly of youth plus a far deeper ignorance, in my view. When older, I'd like to think he may change his ignorance. There is only one fool in this exchange. Many people will struggle and sacrifice to buy tickets to see him gain his riches. Be more humble, son. Hey lukepiestalker Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. George Bernard Shaw What is a bad thing is to characterise someone as ignorant for having an opinion based on their experience and perceptions. Lyle has delighted us with his skill, perceptions, courage and I certainly admire his character on the football field. We don't envy those attributes or the intelligence that exercises them. That intelligence gives him as each one of us the right to our perception of our social order/disorder. Don't disrespect the man for disagreeing with you. I hope you grow out of it. Hey mate. Cheers for the reply. GBS died well before twitter and other stick your head above the parapet forms of immediate writing/response media and I don't subscribe to your false knowledge mechanism. I disagree that there is any intelligence in his post, rather the opposite in fact. If he had great intelligence he might think more carefully before posting but he's still a kid. As for the charity work, well, he should really shouldn't he. I feel they all should and many do. A football player is a 360d role these days and encompasses more than giving your all for the team good. The fact he does this work is not a card to be not questioned or spoke about, especially if you use such organs to post your views, which are very clear from his post. Can still be delighted by his skill and comment on his posts writing another view. Hopefully he will learn and grown as we all do. As I said previously, hopefully he will learn to be more humble and thoughtful in the future. Not really wishing to get into a back and forth just replying as you took the time to do so.
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Post by aaronaldo on Nov 2, 2019 13:10:00 GMT
Don’t always agree with him but he does make me laugh.
Sharing your views is always difficult nowadays.
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Post by jeddez on Nov 2, 2019 13:17:48 GMT
Don’t always agree with him but he does make me laugh. Sharing your views is always difficult nowadays. 😂😂 the guy is hilarious
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Post by MidlandRed on Nov 2, 2019 13:43:38 GMT
Don’t always agree with him but he does make me laugh. Sharing your views is always difficult nowadays. Yeah I'll give him that one...
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Post by seriouslyred on Nov 2, 2019 15:41:05 GMT
Both statements are ignorant for different reasons but Lyle needs to realise there is poverty where he makes his riches and it's not just people who don't work. People who work are in poverty which is what needs changing as well as the many in the country who are trapped unable to work, for various reasons, some of which is simple geography. Duke of Westminster dodged 2bn in taxes due to laws set up specifically to shelter money and make sure that the money he inherits never sees the tax pot. That is in no way fair. Killing poverty is no bad thing. Re distributing wealth fairly is no bad thing either, however the way Corbyn is approaching it seems heavy handed. Both have every right to speak however Lyle's come seem to come from folly of youth plus a far deeper ignorance, in my view. When older, I'd like to think he may change his ignorance. There is only one fool in this exchange. Many people will struggle and sacrifice to buy tickets to see him gain his riches. Be more humble, son. We should all be humble and accept the lived experience of others compared to our own. The simple fact is that it has taken ten years since the global crash for this soundbite to rise to the surface of an election campaign: "Billionaires are a policy failure and should therefore not exist" It is very hard to play this with a straight bat and not sink into the politics of envy but the simple fact is that there are many aspects of the western world which have contributed to the plethora of billionaires whilst millions struggle and governments run austerity programmes. Wages for ordinary workers have stagnated for decades which has implications for the ways to make real money. Tax is one aspect, offshore hidden wealth another, monopolies in ecommerce is another and there are probably a few more. But at least we are having the discussion about wealth inequality after ten years of austerity and the sham announcement that "we're all in this together" as the government cut schools, local services, NHS spending but also taxes.
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Post by cafc2002 on Nov 2, 2019 18:31:17 GMT
Don't think we've ever had a player craves so much attention.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 19:05:06 GMT
Don't think we've ever had a player craves so much attention. I think he's pretty unique, doubt we will ever see another one like him..
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Post by scabbyhorse on Nov 2, 2019 19:23:24 GMT
He sure craves attention BUT it is what makes him such a good player , needs to be loved which he is by the Valley faithful. Just hope we offer him a good enough contract to make him stay as I’m not to sure another club would give him the pedestal or accolades we do at Charlton as it’s no coincidence his best football has happened while wearing the Charlton shirt.
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Post by cafc2002 on Nov 2, 2019 19:29:58 GMT
He sure craves attention BUT it is what makes him such a good player , needs to be loved which he is by the Valley faithful. Just hope we offer him a good enough contract to make him stay as I’m not to sure another club would give him the pedestal or accolades we do at Charlton as it’s no coincidence his best football has happened while wearing the Charlton shirt. Going by some of the shit he comes out with on social media I'm not really sure he needs to be loved.
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Post by scabbyhorse on Nov 2, 2019 19:32:31 GMT
Believe me he does m8. Histrionic personality disorder (HPD) is characterized by a long-standing pattern of attention seeking behavior and extreme emotionality. Someone with histrionic personality disorder wants to be the center of attention in any group of people, and they feel uncomfortable when they are not.
Not sure if that implies to Lyle but we should give him a break.
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Post by oldred on Nov 2, 2019 21:02:50 GMT
He does like the attention for sure, and some people will like that he’s a big personality, while it will irritate others. Even his penalty taking routine has raised his profile more with quite a lot of publicity, while at the same time, getting the club noticed more.
I’m not particularly into social media like twitter and instagram, so I only read what is quoted on here and elsewhere. Social media these days has its place, but can be a double edged sword sometimes.
It’s easy to post something that is controversial, and then regret it, and there are plenty of people who like to use social media to gain access to people to try to cause problems. Lyle is a great player for us, which is all I really care about, but I think he could be a bit wiser with his comments sometimes.
I’m sure LB will have a word about anything he feels that he needs to.
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Post by backhand on Nov 2, 2019 23:50:22 GMT
Stop talking 💩💩 Taylor and get yourself back on the pitch
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Post by brian on Nov 3, 2019 8:00:59 GMT
Both statements are ignorant for different reasons but Lyle needs to realise there is poverty where he makes his riches and it's not just people who don't work. People who work are in poverty which is what needs changing as well as the many in the country who are trapped unable to work, for various reasons, some of which is simple geography. Duke of Westminster dodged 2bn in taxes due to laws set up specifically to shelter money and make sure that the money he inherits never sees the tax pot. That is in no way fair. Killing poverty is no bad thing. Re distributing wealth fairly is no bad thing either, however the way Corbyn is approaching it seems heavy handed. Both have every right to speak however Lyle's come seem to come from folly of youth plus a far deeper ignorance, in my view. When older, I'd like to think he may change his ignorance. There is only one fool in this exchange. Many people will struggle and sacrifice to buy tickets to see him gain his riches. Be more humble, son. We should all be humble and accept the lived experience of others compared to our own. The simple fact is that it has taken ten years since the global crash for this soundbite to rise to the surface of an election campaign: "Billionaires are a policy failure and should therefore not exist" It is very hard to play this with a straight bat and not sink into the politics of envy but the simple fact is that there are many aspects of the western world which have contributed to the plethora of billionaires whilst millions struggle and governments run austerity programmes. Wages for ordinary workers have stagnated for decades which has implications for the ways to make real money. Tax is one aspect, offshore hidden wealth another, monopolies in ecommerce is another and there are probably a few more. But at least we are having the discussion about wealth inequality after ten years of austerity and the sham announcement that "we're all in this together" as the government cut schools, local services, NHS spending but also taxes. In his travels playing football for Montserrat I imagine Lyle caught glimpses of the corruption of power on political left and right that has destroyed ordinary lives in the nearby failed states of south and central america with former socialist poster child Venezuela the most recent tragedy. Over and again all over the world history shows us that a government that takes powers unto itself to take away legally owned assets sustains itself by force and becomes a police state. It does so on the basis of trumped up charges and the property it expropriates never reaches good causes. Lets take Lyle's example and stick to the football now.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 14:32:40 GMT
Will NOT be fit for Millwall game
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 17:30:08 GMT
Will NOT be fit for Millwall game RSI strain
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Post by MidlandRed on Nov 3, 2019 19:46:42 GMT
Now having a little spat with Tony Watt on twitter
Watt has left it with this,
God knows why he's doing all this!
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Post by reamsofverse on Nov 3, 2019 19:50:26 GMT
Taylor needs to fuck off, he's a grade one twat.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 20:41:55 GMT
Taylor won't be here after January hes a Charlton player and represents the the club now .So his behaviour on Twitter surely is bring the club into disrepute. Is he doing all this to anchor a move away I just feel over last 3 or so months now hes changed since his big money move collapsed. Thoughts
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Post by dartford36 on Nov 3, 2019 21:21:47 GMT
I’m afraid I really can’t get at all agitated about what Taylor is doing on Twitter. He’s using the medium to express his opinions, some of which not everyone agrees with, but so what. He’s no different to the likes of Lineker, Piers Morgan and every other Tom, Dick or Harry who feel it necessary to share their views to anyone who wishes to follow him. To someone of my vintage I can’t understand the need to do so but nowadays younger people see no harm in so doing.
Personally, just let him get on with it he’s not doing any harm, there’s a lot more happening in the world to get annoyed about. He’s certainly not bringing the club into disrepute, in my opinion, unless he starts criticising the manager, tactics or team members - just highlighting what he stands for. We enjoy free speech in this country, and that’s what he’s doing. Agree or disagree with him fair enough but that’s the end of the story as far as I’m concerned.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 21:24:17 GMT
I’m afraid I really can’t get at all agitated about what Taylor is doing on Twitter. He’s using the medium to express his opinions, some of which not everyone agrees with, but so what. He’s no different to the likes of Lineker, Piers Morgan and every other Tom, Dick or Harry who feel it necessary to share their views to anyone who wishes to follow him. To someone of my vintage I can’t understand the need to do so but nowadays younger people see no harm in so doing. Personally, just let him get on with it he’s not doing any harm, there’s a lot more happening in the world to get annoyed about. He’s certainly not bringing the club into disrepute, in my opinion, unless he starts criticising the manager, tactics or team members - just highlighting what he stands for. We enjoy free speech in this country, and that’s what he’s doing. Agree or disagree with him fair enough but that’s the end of the story as far as I’m concerned. Fair enough
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Post by pardew123 on Nov 3, 2019 21:27:37 GMT
Well put
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