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Post by willett on Feb 11, 2019 13:22:08 GMT
What a Joke! Hopefully some on here will stop defending him now. Who’s defending him? Not seen much of that tbh... The fallout from this if true could be interesting. However I do hope Gallen can change his mind... Some were saying that he was prepared to spend all sorts of money on wages on the last day of the transfer window. This is massive setback and I too hope that Gallen can change his mind.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 14:37:29 GMT
My recollection is that Lee Bowyer said he didn’t know whether the owner would agree, not that he’s unlikely to do so. There’s an important difference. My interpretation is that Bowyer was implying they hadn’t asked the owner for his specific approval. That said, if we are to believe what we’ve been told about what happened on deadline day, i.e. that approval had been given for a signing which then fell through, I’d have thought it unlikely that the same budget would not be available for a free agent. It’s reasonable to suppose that Bowyer is pursuing the possibility based on this assumption. However, I suspect it’s all entirely academic anyway. The chances of finding a striker who would improve us, who is fit or who could get fit quickly, and who isn’t going to get snapped up by somebody else are very slim indeed I’d imagine. Spot on LB not asked him.... but the fact he was going to ok moves for to top championship players and paying big wages for them would suggest there would not be a problem ... but again to many people automatically looked for the negative in bowyers comments without really reading it properly ..... Looks like the people who looked for negatives in Duchatalet's transfer business were looking in the right place. The tone of Bowyers statement suggests a considerable amount of annoyance, given by the sound of it he has worked hard to recover from the weakened state january left our strikers. Josh may well be a good partner for Taylor. But our options after that fall away sharply.
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Post by Mundell on Feb 11, 2019 19:46:44 GMT
My recollection is that Lee Bowyer said he didn’t know whether the owner would agree, not that he’s unlikely to do so. There’s an important difference. My interpretation is that Bowyer was implying they hadn’t asked the owner for his specific approval. That said, if we are to believe what we’ve been told about what happened on deadline day, i.e. that approval had been given for a signing which then fell through, I’d have thought it unlikely that the same budget would not be available for a free agent. It’s reasonable to suppose that Bowyer is pursuing the possibility based on this assumption. However, I suspect it’s all entirely academic anyway. The chances of finding a striker who would improve us, who is fit or who could get fit quickly, and who isn’t going to get snapped up by somebody else are very slim indeed I’d imagine. The clip I read quite definitely quoted LB as saying “ I think it unlikely that the owner will give us permission to pursue another striker “ Well that has now been confirmed, in that he won’t give us permission. Indeed. I was simply going off what Bowyer said in Saturday’s post match interview. Either what he said was misleading or I misinterpreted it. Either way, we now know your understanding was correct. Makes me wonder what on earth happened on transfer deadline day. It’s hard to understand why Duchatelet would have been willing to fund another loan signing on the 31st January, but then be unwilling to fund the signing of a free agent less than two weeks later. Is the problem the wage cost, the length of the contract, perhaps, or is it simply yet more apparently random decision making?
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Post by Mundell on Feb 11, 2019 19:57:40 GMT
Spot on LB not asked him.... but the fact he was going to ok moves for to top championship players and paying big wages for them would suggest there would not be a problem ... but again to many people automatically looked for the negative in bowyers comments without really reading it properly ..... Looks like the people who looked for negatives in Duchatalet's transfer business were looking in the right place. The tone of Bowyers statement suggests a considerable amount of annoyance, given by the sound of it he has worked hard to recover from the weakened state january left our strikers. Josh may well be a good partner for Taylor. But our options after that fall away sharply. It does look that way. Before we sold Grant we had an outside chance of making the top two, perhaps around 10% or so. That possibility has now all but disappeared. Instead, the bookmakers odds now imply around a one in five chance we won’t even make the playoffs. The owner’s dogma appears to have no limits. Let’s hope Parker can deliver. He certainly looked more likely to on Saturday than Igor.
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Post by scabbyhorse on Feb 11, 2019 20:42:22 GMT
Looks like the people who looked for negatives in Duchatalet's transfer business were looking in the right place. The tone of Bowyers statement suggests a considerable amount of annoyance, given by the sound of it he has worked hard to recover from the weakened state january left our strikers. Josh may well be a good partner for Taylor. But our options after that fall away sharply. It does look that way. Before we sold Grant we had an outside chance of making the top two, perhaps around 10% or so. That possibility has now all but disappeared. Instead, the bookmakers odds now imply around a one in five chance we won’t even make the playoffs. The owner’s dogma appears to have no limits. Let’s hope Parker can deliver. He certainly looked more likely to on Saturday than Igor. To be fair to igor in the first half his movement off the ball in the penalty area was good , until he tired from lack of fitness in the second. Fosu and Marshall were dogshit , despite having plenty of the ball they failed time and time again to put over any decent crosses bar one from Marshall to Reeves. Igor needs to have games and stay fit then maybe we will have a decent chance in the playoffs. Imo he should be a very good striker in league one once fit , he has the ability. The question is can he get fit and stay injury free?
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Post by reamsofverse on Feb 12, 2019 20:24:35 GMT
Bristol City v QPR Birmingham v Bolton
Eisa and Otzumer aren't in either squad so it begs the question why did they need a replacement to come in before either club released them.
Did the Belgium lunatic pull the plug and Gallen and Bowyer took the hit in covering up for him?
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Post by willett on Feb 12, 2019 20:37:18 GMT
Bristol City v QPR Birmingham v Bolton Eisa and Otzumer aren't in either squad so it begs the question why did they need a replacement to come in before either club released them. Begs the question did the Belgium lunatic pull the plug and Gallen and Bowyer took the hit in covering up for him? Reckon you are spot on there.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 21:13:06 GMT
Bristol City v QPR Birmingham v Bolton Eisa and Otzumer aren't in either squad so it begs the question why did they need a replacement to come in before either club released them. Begs the question did the Belgium lunatic pull the plug and Gallen and Bowyer took the hit in covering up for him? 100% mate he does it every January
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Post by divot on Feb 13, 2019 11:05:52 GMT
How much do we think Johnny Williams is on a week?
Surely he wouldn't have left Palace for less money than he was going to get had he stayed there until June. Maybe the Williams money has broken the budget.
Perhaps the Grant money just goes to cover the losses of running a fairly expensive squad with fairly small matchday/commercial income.
Whatever the reality, we still have a decent squad who need to keep believing in their own ability rather than the ability of players we haven't got. We need some wins now, cement our place in the top 6 and hit the play-offs with momentum (and fitness!)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 11:46:51 GMT
Was Joe Mason a realistic signing, one late substitute appearance this season. If I had to finance his wages I would ask the question why, when would he be match fit?
Not defending RD i want him to sell but I will not criticise every decision and make a mountain out of a molehill.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 13:56:26 GMT
Was Joe Mason a realistic signing, one late substitute appearance this season. If I had to finance his wages I would ask the question why, when would he be match fit? Not defending RD i want him to sell but I will not criticise every decision and make a mountain out of a molehill. I thought Mason was the Messiah.... If we had signed a player during the window with no football this season then people would have understandably derided the appointment.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 15:44:48 GMT
How much do we think Johnny Williams is on a week? Surely he wouldn't have left Palace for less money than he was going to get had he stayed there until June. Maybe the Williams money has broken the budget. Perhaps the Grant money just goes to cover the losses of running a fairly expensive squad with fairly small matchday/commercial income. Whatever the reality, we still have a decent squad who need to keep believing in their own ability rather than the ability of players we haven't got. We need some wins now, cement our place in the top 6 and hit the play-offs with momentum (and fitness!) Maybe Palace paid his contract up...
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Post by divot on Feb 13, 2019 17:02:10 GMT
I can't see why Palace would pay up Williams contract in full. Maybe they paid up some of it and his Charlton wages/signing on fee make up the balance.
Whatever the split, I bet the Charlton proportion is a fair whack.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 17:15:33 GMT
I can't see why Palace would pay up Williams contract in full. Maybe they paid up some of it and his Charlton wages/signing on fee make up the balance. Whatever the split, I bet the Charlton proportion is a fair whack. Palace supporting friend believes, we took on end of contract and that JW was on a reduced contract 15k ....
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Post by divot on Feb 13, 2019 18:56:11 GMT
We're paying £15k a week?! No wonder he joined us.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 19:15:10 GMT
We're paying £15k a week?! No wonder he joined us. Could have stayed, sitting on arse at Palace and got it.🤣
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Post by ashaddick on Feb 13, 2019 19:33:35 GMT
Maybe we should get George Tucudean back, he seems to be scoring freely back in Romania and while we are at it maybe his dad will buy the club. 😉
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Post by treasure1 on Feb 13, 2019 20:05:04 GMT
Maybe we should get George Tucudean back, he seems to be scoring freely back in Romania and while we are at it maybe his dad will buy the club. 😉 I liked George, could have been so different, had he tucked that ball away, against Millwall.🙄
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Post by Mundell on Feb 13, 2019 20:13:46 GMT
We're paying £15k a week?! No wonder he joined us. Be surprised if we’re paying Williams £15,000 per week and if we are it would imply Bowyer and Gallen have blown a significant part of their wage budget on one player. Might this explain events on transfer deadline day? An alternative explanation might be on the following lines. Palace had decided that Williams, who was out of contract at the end of this season, was surplus to requirements and that his contract would not be renewed. Their plan was to send him out on loan, mainly to offset some of his wages, which they expected to subsidise, but also to help a boy who had been with them since the age of eight to find another club. Charlton come along, willing and able to make a contribution to Williams’ wages, but preferring a ‘permanent’ deal, albeit for just six months, to a loan because this would have allowed the club to make another loan signing while remaining within the loan limit on match days. Palace agreed because from their perspective there was no financial difference and a ‘clean break’ may have actually been simpler for them. This explanation allows us to reconcile, a) Charlton signing the player on a permanent deal, b) Williams being willing to sign because he was no worse off financially than at Palace and c) Palace being willing to subsidise the wages of a player who is no longer theirs.
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Post by seriouslyred on Feb 13, 2019 21:11:20 GMT
Palace will have paid X, not least due to his contribution to their promotion and we are picking up Y for a short term deal.
Perhaps in a fortnight after two or three more games we might ask whether we are better than 12 months back? Is our midfield as good as it should be and can the management get the best out of Parker / Vetokele?
There's been a number of things at play here, not least Taylor's suspension and the delayed return of Aribo and Page from injury. But surely we should be in better shape given the quality of signings these last 12 months.
Think there was a thread on our midfield - perhaps worth bumping since there must be many views on our best formation, tactics and selection.
Looking forward to Saturday as that will answer some questions for sure.
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Post by aaronaldo on Feb 14, 2019 11:19:43 GMT
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Post by thevalleybest on Feb 14, 2019 11:24:59 GMT
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Post by aaronaldo on Feb 14, 2019 11:39:15 GMT
Unlikely. I just thought it was interesting that the option is still available.
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Post by bexleyboy on Feb 14, 2019 14:10:54 GMT
In his last 54 app he scored 10 goals ..... and people are acting like he is going to be the saviour ..... that’s a worst ratio then Parker who people slated when we signed him for his goal scoring !!!!!!!!!
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Post by garrynelson on Feb 14, 2019 15:35:08 GMT
Ive not seen anyone suggest he’s the savior, rather he appears the best of a bad bunch of free agent strikers
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Post by oldred on Feb 14, 2019 20:05:33 GMT
Optimistic I know , but Im still hoping that Lyle can help improve Parker’s goal stats , and form a new successful partnership. I’m pretty certain he will score more goals with his head than Karlan did .
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