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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 14, 2015 18:42:32 GMT
So now we have a left back who is asked to play left midfield and a striker who may get asked to do the same!!!
Why don't we just sign one for God's sake?
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Post by thevalleybest on Sept 14, 2015 18:46:00 GMT
So now we have a left back who is asked to play left midfield and a striker who may get asked to do the same!!! Why don't we just sign one for God's sake? We are over budget with the wages.
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 14, 2015 18:53:57 GMT
MK Dons have offered a contract to Nicky Maynard.
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 14, 2015 18:55:09 GMT
So now we have a left back who is asked to play left midfield and a striker who may get asked to do the same!!! Why don't we just sign one for God's sake? We are over budget with the wages. I get that so why sign, chance players like we have? why gamble on players being good enough when we could have saved the money for somebody proven in the position.
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 14, 2015 19:03:54 GMT
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Post by Mundell on Sept 14, 2015 20:34:35 GMT
There is an interview with Roland Duchatelet in the latest edition of CAST news. Duchatelet makes it clear that he doesn't want to talk about football and instead focuses on his political philosophy.
His views are perhaps best described as somewhat unconventional. He claims to understand things that others don't, but I finished the article scratching my head. I don't have a clue what the political party he founded around twenty years ago would have done had it, against all odds, actually found itself in power.
Similarly, if as members of this forum we all had the opportunity to attend a Q&A with Charlton's owner, I strongly suspect we'd find it a surreal and bemusing experience.
This does not mean that Duchatelet does not have the club's interests at heart, I'm sure he does, but it does mean that as mere mortals we are likely to find his decisions difficult to understand and even harder to predict. He'll be doing things his way, whatever that may mean.
I'm sure that Katrien Meire and Guy Luzon are working to a strict budget, but how that budget is set and under what circumstances it might change even they may not know.
I know nothing about Conor McAleny, but it does appear to be an odd and non strategic signing. Perhaps Meire and Luzon are simply doing the best they can in the circumstances? It may not make sense, but then why would it? That said, it may work. Who knows? Let's hope it does.
The good news is that it's likely that Duchatelet wants Meire to succeed and that he rates and trusts Luzon. We now have a much stronger core squad and our performance data suggests we are playing much better than last season. We're clearly not the finished article though, and we just have to hope that Duchatelet has an unexpected epiphany and decides to further support his management team, either in this emergency loan window or in January.
I wouldn't rule that out, but I'm not holding my breath because I really have no idea what might motivate a more aggressive and, some of us might say, more logical approach.
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 14, 2015 23:05:58 GMT
Good post again Mundell.
When was the interview with RD? Reason I ask is it doesn't tell us what we don't already know so has somebody sat down with him recently or are they just recycling old news?
I agree with what you say about McAleny, it does seem more of a 'he's cheap so try him' option which again clearly cuts out the middle man who in this case not for the first time is Phil Chapple because I doubt we have watched the lad play that much, it's more of a convenient arrangement by both clubs..
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Post by Mundell on Sept 15, 2015 7:08:54 GMT
The introduction to the article is as follows;
"This is an extract from an interview conducted by Belgian journalist Douglas de Coninck earlier this year."
The article says that the interview took place in an executive box at Standard Liege.
I assume this means that de Coninck spoke to Duchatelet this year, but before he sold Standard.
I agree that there's nothing new in the article, but I do think it provides further insight into Duchatelet's mindset and style. I genuinely believe he's well intended, but I don't think we'll ever understand quite what motivates him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 7:33:28 GMT
Conor McAleny - see this as covering left side and forwards, its becoming apparent that the forwards are having trouble scoring.
IMHO KAG is still on a learning curve, Watt / Mak and Vetokele all seem to be some way from match fit, which is not acceptable at this stage of the season.
Watt, and especially Vetokele also appear to be "injured" or carrying knocks, suspect there is something deeper to Veto's lack of performance, confidence, injury, unsettled, who knows but he seems a completely different player to last season.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 7:47:42 GMT
If McAleny isn't costing us anything other than incidentals with Everton continuing to pay his salary, then why not?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 7:58:55 GMT
If McAleny isn't costing us anything other than incidentals with Everton continuing to pay his salary, then why not? cover yes, but does he "add" anything to the squad , is he better than them already in his position ?
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Post by bexleyboy on Sept 15, 2015 9:34:09 GMT
Cause he does ..... Everton just signed him on a three year contract and his record in there youth and under 21 team is pretty good . Plus done ok when out on loan ....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 10:16:37 GMT
He might be crap he might be the best thing ever, we will see tonight I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 14:18:59 GMT
Cause he does ..... Everton just signed him on a three year contract and his record in there youth and under 21 team is pretty good . Plus done ok when out on loan .... If Everton rated him that much he would have broken into the first team at 23!!
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Post by yorkshireaddick on Sept 15, 2015 16:44:00 GMT
Cause he does ..... Everton just signed him on a three year contract and his record in there youth and under 21 team is pretty good . Plus done ok when out on loan .... If Everton rated him that much he would have broken into the first team at 23!! Coquelin was the same though last year when we loaned him,now he is first team regular at arsenal. I'm not saying he will be as good as Coquelin though.
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Post by ExeterAddick on Sept 15, 2015 21:21:05 GMT
I actually thought he showed some tidy touches when he came on, but time will tell.
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 17, 2015 17:38:09 GMT
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Post by imacharltonfan on Sept 17, 2015 17:51:12 GMT
Or some fans are not getting it. We have gone over our budget and have a decent squad. It's takes more than two seasons to build a top 6 standard team.
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 17, 2015 18:23:08 GMT
It's the budget that's the problem though, if you offer sub standard wages you get sub standard players.
We have got a decent team, nothing special but ok. The squad however is weak and lacks a cutting edge.
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Post by bexleyboy on Sept 17, 2015 18:44:34 GMT
You bring in average loan players it blocks the young players from getting through have faith in our young players Tariiq Dennis Kennedy
Just two who should be given a go
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Post by bexleyboy on Sept 17, 2015 18:46:28 GMT
Under TJ and Slater the budget was slashed ..... we are now trying to build it up to a level to attract better players but still trying to keep the dedts and day to day running of the club under control
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Post by imacharltonfan on Sept 17, 2015 19:21:50 GMT
Under TJ and Slater the budget was slashed ..... we are now trying to build it up to a level to attract better players but still trying to keep the dedts and day to day running of the club under control Exactly right. By doing this season after season we will continue to improve and mount a serious challenge.
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Post by ross on Sept 22, 2015 14:18:18 GMT
Reams, you are always going on about signing Maynard from Cardiff, unfortunately, CAFC are not listening, he has signed for MK Dons
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 14:24:37 GMT
Under TJ and Slater the budget was slashed ..... we are now trying to build it up to a level to attract better players but still trying to keep the dedts and day to day running of the club under control Exactly right. By doing this season after season we will continue to improve and mount a serious challenge. But in what season?
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Post by imacharltonfan on Sept 22, 2015 14:26:45 GMT
Exactly right. By doing this season after season we will continue to improve and mount a serious challenge. But in what season? Whatever season we have a squad strong enough.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 14:37:36 GMT
Whatever season we have a squad strong enough. I think that is the problem and the burning question.
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 22, 2015 17:48:52 GMT
Reams, you are always going on about signing Maynard from Cardiff, unfortunately, CAFC are not listening, he has signed for MK Dons I know mate he has been training with them for the last month.
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 22, 2015 17:57:46 GMT
Under TJ and Slater the budget was slashed ..... we are now trying to build it up to a level to attract better players but still trying to keep the dedts and day to day running of the club under control Exactly right. By doing this season after season we will continue to improve and mount a serious challenge. Not sure how you work that one out mate if I'm honest. In a nutshell RD is keeping the debt down by bringing in players who are sub standard and will accept the low wages on offer. In other words he is sacrificing success on the pitch by keeping things tight off it. His mission might keep the bank balance healthy but it will never have us listed as being in the top 32 teams in the Country which for me means a lower half finish again. The idea is to stay up until such a time that he thinks he has enough to create a squad big and strong enough for that serious challenge but you need a starting point for that to happen 4 or 5 key players to build your squad around and we just don't have them so for me the foundations are not even laid yet let alone anything else and that is because the majority of players we have now are never Premier League quality in a million years. It's not negativity, I am just telling it through my own eyes and what I have seen so far. I have no objection to people disagreeing with me at all unless it's in the form of some of the abuse I have received on here this week.
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Post by imacharltonfan on Sept 22, 2015 18:02:18 GMT
Exactly right. By doing this season after season we will continue to improve and mount a serious challenge. Not sure how you work that one out mate if I'm honest. In a nutshell RD is keeping the debt down by bringing in players who are sub standard and will accept the low wages on offer. In other words he is sacrificing success on the pitch by keeping things tight off it. His mission might keep the bank balance healthy but it will never have us listed as being in the top 32 teams in the Country which for me means a lower half finish again. The idea is to stay up until such a time that he thinks he has enough to create a squad big and strong enough for that serious challenge but you need a starting point for that to happen 4 or 5 key players to build your squad around and we just don't have them so for me the foundations are not even laid yet let alone anything else and that is because the majority of players we have now are never Premier League quality in a million years. It's not negativity, I am just telling it through my own eyes and what I have seen so far. I have no objection to people disagreeing with me at all unless it's in the form of some of the abuse I have received on here this week. I know I keep saying similar things, but I really think we are a future investment for his son. The fact that we are now a stable, strong football club, good ground, squad, and soon to be new training ground gives us the foundation to go on and compete higher up the league. When RD sold SL he mentioned he wants to take a step back from it all but the money invested on the training ground makes me think he wants it for his son.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 21:48:25 GMT
Don't think the signings were substandard, more a mixed bag.
The real problem is they didn't complete the squad.
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