London based Global Football Partners Out!!

[reamsofverse]

No money, no idea.

Sell up to somebody willing to build a squad capable of achieving something.

The summer was a piss poor rebuild. Why are certain people being paid good money to fail spectacularly?

Selling the top scorer to fund a squad half of whom can't even do the basics.

You couldn't have got the summer window more wrong if you tried.

[innerspaced]

Clown world comment

[reamsofverse]

Sept 28, 2024 15:55:41 GMT innerspaced said:

Clown world comment

You would know Charlie.

Absolutely clueless as ever..

What have they done for the football club?

If you wrote the answers omn the back of a stamp you would still have room left for a response.

Mr Simple.

[scabbyhorse]

Is it really a Clown world comment, when Jones and the SMT have admitted they sold May to be able invest in the squad and left us with Kanu, Ahadme and the most uncreative midfield in Charlton history to watch, I think that in it's self screams bunch of clowns.

[eric]

They have invested next to nothing on the team and it is beginning to show . Hopefully they’ll sell up before long .

[valleydobson1]

Sept 28, 2024 16:16:16 GMT eric said:

They have invested next to nothing on the team and it is beginning to show . Hopefully they’ll sell up before long .

Who they need to buy the Valley?.

[reamsofverse]

Sept 28, 2024 16:19:50 GMT valleydobson1 said:

Sept 28, 2024 16:16:16 GMT eric said:

They have invested next to nothing on the team and it is beginning to show . Hopefully they’ll sell up before long .

Who they need to buy the Valley?.

Oh here he comes with his off topic questions!

Who cares, it's the squad we need to get right not buy the stadium back with ribbons on!

Nobody is ever buying it so get used to it.

[reamsofverse]

A good post from Royston elsewhere which I totally agree with. Perhaps it's time to allow him back on here with whoever else wants to rejoin. It's far easier when we are all on the same page.

There’s no fool like an old fool , but unless I am very much mistaken, the fanbase has been had over yet again.

All we have done is sell the best goalscorer in the league, and replace him with a bunch of Luton has beens with no sell on value, that the manager has got playing hoof ball.

Today’s performance was like the scene at the end of the Wizard of Oz, when Judy Garland pulls the curtain back & realises she’s been tricked.

Put another way …is anyone confident that this crop of players can get us into the play offs, particularly playing this way ?

[tidyjensen]

Sept 28, 2024 17:26:48 GMT reamsofverse said:

A good post from Royston elsewhere which I totally agree with. Perhaps it's time to allow him back on here with whoever else wants to rejoin. It's far easier when we are all on the same page.

There’s no fool like an old fool , but unless I am very much mistaken, the fanbase has been had over yet again.

All we have done is sell the best goalscorer in the league, and replace him with a bunch of Luton has beens with no sell on value, that the manager has got playing hoof ball.

Today’s performance was like the scene at the end of the Wizard of Oz, when Judy Garland pulls the curtain back & realises she’s been tricked.

Put another way …is anyone confident that this crop of players can get us into the play offs, particularly playing this way ?

.

Bring back Royston!!

[reamsofverse]

Charlie Methven has repeatedly said that Charlton Athletic and League One really don't work.

My question is then why don't they do fucking something about it instead of flogging the best striker in the division last season to fund a jumble sale which is what this summer has been.

All talk Charlie. Either put up or shut up and that goes for your colleagues who are making a pigs ear out of managing the football club onto better things.

Same shit different owners.

[clarky]

I called Charlie out from day one, and was never happy with his matey SMT. I always thought and still think he convinced the investors that we could do things on the cheap purely on the fact that the club had been badly mismanaged in the past.
Nothing has changed but it is clear that the multitude of investors haven't got a clue about what is required and have been sucked in by his quite clever words, which is the only thing he is good at, and there are still some think his podcasts actually mean something.
Really not sure where we go from here but I would rather keep the investors than the SMT and hope they can actually find somebody who actually knows how to run the playing side rather than bugger about with the off field antics.

[roburwash]

Sept 28, 2024 20:17:14 GMT reamsofverse said:

Charlie Methven has repeatedly said that Charlton Athletic and League One really don't work.

My question is then why don't they do fucking something about it instead of flogging the best striker in the division last season to fund a jumble sale which is what this summer has been.

All talk Charlie. Either put up or shut up and that goes for your colleagues who are making a pigs ear out of managing the football club onto better things.

Same shit different owners.

Yeah but we were being told by people that May needed to go because Jones wanted to play a system where goals would come from all over the pitch rather than from one player. 

[discocafc]

Ridiculous thread. Jones has been backed but my issue is where the goals are going to come from.

Here is from someone who has been meeting Charlie and has been sitting with the board some games. Have you fallen out with them or something Reams?

[ExeterAddick]

I hope the people who dismissed the exits of CBT, Dobbo and May, as if they were unimportant, have given their heads a wobble.

I've said a thousand times, you rarely improve a side by getting rid of your top performers. Dobbo and May were both doing it in an extremely mediocre side - we should have added quality to them, rather than letting them walk out the door for the likes of Docherty, Ahadme and Godden.

Also, let's not let our pants get pulled down by any more snake oil salesmen. These people are involved in football to make a few quid and for vanity reasons - not because they love Charlton.

[reamsofverse]

Sept 29, 2024 5:44:16 GMT discocafc said:

Ridiculous thread. Jones has been backed but my issue is where the goals are going to come from.

Here is from someone who has been meeting Charlie and has been sitting with the board some games. Have you fallen out with them or something Reams?

Doesn't matter where I sit or who with really does it mate. I'm a fan first and foremost and I'm afraid a little bit of hospitality now and then doesn't buy my silence when things aren't going as they should.

I don't think a top four budget has ever thrown together such a disjointed, limited squad.

I get that NJ has created it but the May money has thrown together the current squad so where is the money we were prepared to part with for either Nombe. JCH or Collins. That ranged from 500k to 700k, Why hasn't that been thrown at it too?

[kings hill addick]

Sept 29, 2024 8:31:39 GMT reamsofverse said:

Sept 29, 2024 5:44:16 GMT discocafc said:

Ridiculous thread. Jones has been backed but my issue is where the goals are going to come from.

Here is from someone who has been meeting Charlie and has been sitting with the board some games. Have you fallen out with them or something Reams?

Doesn't matter where I sit or who with really does it mate. I'm a fan first and foremost and I'm afraid a little bit of hospitality now and then doesn't buy my silence when things aren't going as they should.

I don't think a top four budget has ever thrown together such a disjointed, limited squad.

I get that NJ has created it but the May money has thrown together the current squad so where is the money we were prepared to part with for either Nombe. JCH or Collins. That ranged from 500k to 700k, Why hasn't that been thrown at it too?

I never believed that we were going to spend those kinds of money. I always thought that those names were leaked to appease fans and/or to sell tickets.

[discocafc]

Sept 29, 2024 8:31:39 GMT reamsofverse said:

Sept 29, 2024 5:44:16 GMT discocafc said:

Ridiculous thread. Jones has been backed but my issue is where the goals are going to come from.

Here is from someone who has been meeting Charlie and has been sitting with the board some games. Have you fallen out with them or something Reams?

Doesn't matter where I sit or who with really does it mate. I'm a fan first and foremost and I'm afraid a little bit of hospitality now and then doesn't buy my silence when things aren't going as they should.

I don't think a top four budget has ever thrown together such a disjointed, limited squad.

I get that NJ has created it but the May money has thrown together the current squad so where is the money we were prepared to part with for either Nombe. JCH or Collins. That ranged from 500k to 700k, Why hasn't that been thrown at it too?

Our squad is massive Reams, you’ve seen how much different our squad was when we played Cambridge away which I think is an issue.

I’m sure Charlie Methven touched on this (and will get this clarified on Thursday as will be going to the Bromley meeting) but I believe Charlton are on the top end of the financial fair play budget and was waiting for players to leave. I’m sure you also said that most players the club was looking to get rid that no other club wanted them, hence the halt of incomings.

I do believe the owners wanted to spend but also have to play to the financial rules as well.

My issue is why did we get rid of May and why have we not had an attacking midfielder in the side? I’m concerned where the goals are regularly going to come from. It doesn’t help when Jones keeps changing the two strikers every game.

[clarky]

Sept 29, 2024 8:33:37 GMT kings hill addick said:

Sept 29, 2024 8:31:39 GMT reamsofverse said:

Doesn't matter where I sit or who with really does it mate. I'm a fan first and foremost and I'm afraid a little bit of hospitality now and then doesn't buy my silence when things aren't going as they should.

I don't think a top four budget has ever thrown together such a disjointed, limited squad.

I get that NJ has created it but the May money has thrown together the current squad so where is the money we were prepared to part with for either Nombe. JCH or Collins. That ranged from 500k to 700k, Why hasn't that been thrown at it too?

I never believed that we were going to spend those kinds of money. I always thought that those names were leaked to appease fans and/or to sell tickets.

Unfortunately, I think you are correct.

[norfolkrobin]

Sept 29, 2024 8:31:39 GMT reamsofverse said:

Sept 29, 2024 5:44:16 GMT discocafc said:

Ridiculous thread. Jones has been backed but my issue is where the goals are going to come from.

Here is from someone who has been meeting Charlie and has been sitting with the board some games. Have you fallen out with them or something Reams?

Doesn't matter where I sit or who with really does it mate. I'm a fan first and foremost and I'm afraid a little bit of hospitality now and then doesn't buy my silence when things aren't going as they should.

I don't think a top four budget has ever thrown together such a disjointed, limited squad.

I get that NJ has created it but the May money has thrown together the current squad so where is the money we were prepared to part with for either Nombe. JCH or Collins. That ranged from 500k to 700k, Why hasn't that been thrown at it too?

SOOOOO SICK of CM giving it all this we've had a look under bonnet stuff,real issues to untangle blah,blah,blah.....

Im used to this club not being very good,it comes with the territory sadly haha,but has CM hoodwinked 3 yank billionaire's? Or have we found the tightest 3 billionaire's in existence? I was hoping they would be brash yanks who want a bit of limelight going up against Rob and Ryan of Wrexham,and Tom Brady at Brum?

NJ not blameless in this,we look beyond toothless,but is he having to lean on trusted faces because there is no real money to throw at it?

A more solid base we may have,but we're going nowhere fast.

[madz]

I don't agree that GFP are the reason we are having issues on the pitch, just my opinion. Ok we could have asked them to spend more money in the squad, but with financial restrictions they couldn't keep throwing money in and they need to be sensible. The issue is who we brought in playing wise and that's not on the owners. The budget is given to the manager and director of football (however big of small), but if they use it badly that's on them not the owners. I never agreed with May being let go. If that was Jones' decision alone he screwed up massively. However unless Charlton forced May to record that video saying May moved for his family it's not solely on Jones, but maybe he could have tried harder to keep him. I'm annoyed May went in the first place, but we couldn't replace him like for like, if we could have then i suspect Birmingham would have signed that player instead of May.

If Jones has been the only one making the decisions on transfers then he is responsible for not bringing in any creativity. If Scott is still heavily involved in those decisions then he should be sacked because that's what 3 or 4 transfer windows now he's not done enough.

I get Jones reasons for bringing in the likes of Berry, A Campbell and Potts (not Hylton). They are players he has worked with and have the experience which we do need as we can't rely on just youngsters. I have no problem with any of them being in the squad tbh. I just don't see goals in this team with the way we play. Every fan could see we needed attack minded midfielders, yet the recruitment was more in the mind of stopping the other team playing.

Last year I complained repeatedly about our defence, but we seem to have sorted that out by adding Mitchell and Edwards, Jones massively more confident and Ramsay I think has been awesome. I do rate Gillesphey too to be honest. I sound like a broken record, but our lack of creativity is our problem. Last year May possibly would have put away more of the limited chances we do get, but we just don't look a threat going forward anywhere on the pitch.

I don't get Jones not even putting Taylor on the bench, especially if he is now complaining about our set pieces. Coventry you can see isn't good at them, but I wouldn't drop him for Taylor because Coventry adds way more around the pitch. But I'd put Taylor, Coventry and possibly Docherty in that middle. Docherty needs to do more though than just kick people up in the air.

Recruitment is to blame for the current situation. That has to be on Jones and Scott, you can't really blame the owners for that. Other teams seem to be able to find attack minded players, how could our recruitment not. I don't mind the players they brought in, but we could have not brought in Campbell, Potts and Hylton and used that salary budget on different positions. Potts maybe the exception, but Campbell and Hylton we could have used their salaries elsewhere. I don't even mind Campbell as a player, but his position is not something we needed.

Hylton can't be on a big salary as a player/coach and I doubt we will ever see him in the squad.

[Mundell]

Sept 29, 2024 9:34:20 GMT madz said:

I don't agree that GFP are the reason we are having issues on the pitch, just my opinion. Ok we could have asked them to spend more money in the squad, but with financial restrictions they couldn't keep throwing money in and they need to be sensible. The issue is who we brought in playing wise and that's not on the owners. The budget is given to the manager and director of football (however big of small), but if they use it badly that's on them not the owners. I never agreed with May being let go. If that was Jones' decision alone he screwed up massively. However unless Charlton forced May to record that video saying May moved for his family it's not solely on Jones, but maybe he could have tried harder to keep him. I'm annoyed May went in the first place, but we couldn't replace him like for like, if we could have then i suspect Birmingham would have signed that player instead of May.

If Jones has been the only one making the decisions on transfers then he is responsible for not bringing in any creativity. If Scott is still heavily involved in those decisions then he should be sacked because that's what 3 or 4 transfer windows now he's not done enough.

I get Jones reasons for bringing in the likes of Berry, A Campbell and Potts (not Hylton). They are players he has worked with and have the experience which we do need as we can't rely on just youngsters. I have no problem with any of them being in the squad tbh. I just don't see goals in this team with the way we play. Every fan could see we needed attack minded midfielders, yet the recruitment was more in the mind of stopping the other team playing.

Last year I complained repeatedly about our defence, but we seem to have sorted that out by adding Mitchell and Edwards, Jones massively more confident and Ramsay I think has been awesome. I do rate Gillesphey too to be honest. I sound like a broken record, but our lack of creativity is our problem. Last year May possibly would have put away more of the limited chances we do get, but we just don't look a threat going forward anywhere on the pitch.

I don't get Jones not even putting Taylor on the bench, especially if he is now complaining about our set pieces. Coventry you can see isn't good at them, but I wouldn't drop him for Taylor because Coventry adds way more around the pitch. But I'd put Taylor, Coventry and possibly Docherty in that middle. Docherty needs to do more though than just kick people up in the air.

Recruitment is to blame for the current situation. That has to be on Jones and Scott, you can't really blame the owners for that. Other teams seem to be able to find attack minded players, how could our recruitment not. I don't mind the players they brought in, but we could have not brought in Campbell, Potts and Hylton and used that salary budget on different positions. Potts maybe the exception, but Campbell and Hylton we could have used their salaries elsewhere. I don't even mind Campbell as a player, but his position is not something we needed.

Hylton can't be on a big salary as a player/coach and I doubt we will ever see him in the squad.

Completely agree.

[seriouslyred]

Sept 29, 2024 9:34:20 GMT madz said:

I don't agree that GFP are the reason we are having issues on the pitch, just my opinion. Ok we could have asked them to spend more money in the squad, but with financial restrictions they couldn't keep throwing money in and they need to be sensible. The issue is who we brought in playing wise and that's not on the owners. The budget is given to the manager and director of football (however big of small), but if they use it badly that's on them not the owners. I never agreed with May being let go. If that was Jones' decision alone he screwed up massively. However unless Charlton forced May to record that video saying May moved for his family it's not solely on Jones, but maybe he could have tried harder to keep him. I'm annoyed May went in the first place, but we couldn't replace him like for like, if we could have then i suspect Birmingham would have signed that player instead of May.

If Jones has been the only one making the decisions on transfers then he is responsible for not bringing in any creativity. If Scott is still heavily involved in those decisions then he should be sacked because that's what 3 or 4 transfer windows now he's not done enough.

I get Jones reasons for bringing in the likes of Berry, A Campbell and Potts (not Hylton). They are players he has worked with and have the experience which we do need as we can't rely on just youngsters. I have no problem with any of them being in the squad tbh. I just don't see goals in this team with the way we play. Every fan could see we needed attack minded midfielders, yet the recruitment was more in the mind of stopping the other team playing.

Last year I complained repeatedly about our defence, but we seem to have sorted that out by adding Mitchell and Edwards, Jones massively more confident and Ramsay I think has been awesome. I do rate Gillesphey too to be honest. I sound like a broken record, but our lack of creativity is our problem. Last year May possibly would have put away more of the limited chances we do get, but we just don't look a threat going forward anywhere on the pitch.

I don't get Jones not even putting Taylor on the bench, especially if he is now complaining about our set pieces. Coventry you can see isn't good at them, but I wouldn't drop him for Taylor because Coventry adds way more around the pitch. But I'd put Taylor, Coventry and possibly Docherty in that middle. Docherty needs to do more though than just kick people up in the air.

Recruitment is to blame for the current situation. That has to be on Jones and Scott, you can't really blame the owners for that. Other teams seem to be able to find attack minded players, how could our recruitment not. I don't mind the players they brought in, but we could have not brought in Campbell, Potts and Hylton and used that salary budget on different positions. Potts maybe the exception, but Campbell and Hylton we could have used their salaries elsewhere. I don't even mind Campbell as a player, but his position is not something we needed.

Hylton can't be on a big salary as a player/coach and I doubt we will ever see him in the squad.

GFP are committed to covering the losses, and perhaps wish to see some evidence of capability within the SMT and football management before moving up the food chain in terms of transfer fees and wages.

We have 13 senior and Academy players for keeper, centre back and full/wing back. This area has certainly evolved this year with a new keeper etc. And most would agree that our goals / chances / xG conceded is under control. It's certainly comparable to the top six.

We also have 13 midfielders and strikers - some inherited, some from the Academy and some recently acquired. Unlike defence the chances created, goals scored are ALL bottom six! Not even mid-table.

Whoever people choose to blame for this scenario, I'd hesitate to point the finger at the three main investors. After all it was Jones, not them who decided NOT to avail of EPL loans to top up the squad late August.

Our promotion side six years back was built on existing talent (from our Championship days), Academy players AND the likes of Cullen and Bielik.

Wrexham had an Arsenal keeper on loan last season who they've subsequently signed on a perm. Whereas we've picked up a job lot of Luton players.

The reality is that GFP are going nowhere. But they may well have a serious look at the SMT and football management who have combined to dish up this September shambles!

Always remember the owners watch the same games as us AND they’ll have access to far better analytics for this season to date and last.

Unless we beat Brizzle on Tuesday we're looking at a long winless run - so what's the move?

[Mundell]

Sept 29, 2024 13:47:26 GMT seriouslyred said:

Sept 29, 2024 9:34:20 GMT madz said:

I don't agree that GFP are the reason we are having issues on the pitch, just my opinion. Ok we could have asked them to spend more money in the squad, but with financial restrictions they couldn't keep throwing money in and they need to be sensible. The issue is who we brought in playing wise and that's not on the owners. The budget is given to the manager and director of football (however big of small), but if they use it badly that's on them not the owners. I never agreed with May being let go. If that was Jones' decision alone he screwed up massively. However unless Charlton forced May to record that video saying May moved for his family it's not solely on Jones, but maybe he could have tried harder to keep him. I'm annoyed May went in the first place, but we couldn't replace him like for like, if we could have then i suspect Birmingham would have signed that player instead of May.

If Jones has been the only one making the decisions on transfers then he is responsible for not bringing in any creativity. If Scott is still heavily involved in those decisions then he should be sacked because that's what 3 or 4 transfer windows now he's not done enough.

I get Jones reasons for bringing in the likes of Berry, A Campbell and Potts (not Hylton). They are players he has worked with and have the experience which we do need as we can't rely on just youngsters. I have no problem with any of them being in the squad tbh. I just don't see goals in this team with the way we play. Every fan could see we needed attack minded midfielders, yet the recruitment was more in the mind of stopping the other team playing.

Last year I complained repeatedly about our defence, but we seem to have sorted that out by adding Mitchell and Edwards, Jones massively more confident and Ramsay I think has been awesome. I do rate Gillesphey too to be honest. I sound like a broken record, but our lack of creativity is our problem. Last year May possibly would have put away more of the limited chances we do get, but we just don't look a threat going forward anywhere on the pitch.

I don't get Jones not even putting Taylor on the bench, especially if he is now complaining about our set pieces. Coventry you can see isn't good at them, but I wouldn't drop him for Taylor because Coventry adds way more around the pitch. But I'd put Taylor, Coventry and possibly Docherty in that middle. Docherty needs to do more though than just kick people up in the air.

Recruitment is to blame for the current situation. That has to be on Jones and Scott, you can't really blame the owners for that. Other teams seem to be able to find attack minded players, how could our recruitment not. I don't mind the players they brought in, but we could have not brought in Campbell, Potts and Hylton and used that salary budget on different positions. Potts maybe the exception, but Campbell and Hylton we could have used their salaries elsewhere. I don't even mind Campbell as a player, but his position is not something we needed.

Hylton can't be on a big salary as a player/coach and I doubt we will ever see him in the squad.

GFP are committed to covering the losses, and perhaps wish to see some evidence of capability within the SMT and football management before moving up the food chain in terms of transfer fees and wages.

We have 13 senior and Academy players for keeper, centre back and full/wing back. This area has certainly evolved this year with a new keeper etc. And most would agree that our goals / chances / xG conceded is under control. It's certainly comparable to the top six.

We also have 13 midfielders and strikers - some inherited, some from the Academy and some recently acquired. Unlike defence the chances created, goals scored are ALL bottom six! Not even mid-table.

Whoever people choose to blame for this scenario, I'd hesitate to point the finger at the three main investors. After all it was Jones, not them who decided NOT to avail of EPL loans to top up the squad late August.

Our promotion side six years back was built on existing talent (from our Championship days), Academy players AND the likes of Cullen and Bielik.

Wrexham had an Arsenal keeper on loan last season who they've subsequently signed on a perm. Whereas we've picked up a job lot of Luton players.

The reality is that GFP are going nowhere. But they may well have a serious look at the SMT and football management who have combined to dish up this September shambles!

Always remember the owners watch the same games as us AND they’ll have access to far better analytics for this season to date and last.

Unless we beat Brizzle on Tuesday we're looking at a long winless run - so what's the move?

Completely agree. By the end of this season GFP will probably have spent close to £20m covering losses. They’ve also sought to take a long term view while professionalising the management of the club. Good luck trying to find someone better. 

If we don’t challenge this season then the heads of Rodwell, Scott and Jones should all be on the block. The owners are almost certainly more likely to take that view than say “never mind, we’ll increase our funding by 50% and keep our fingers crossed you won’t waste that money too.”

For now, we need to hope that Nathan Jones can improve his team’s performances. There is no cavalry. 

[reamsofverse]

I hear what you are saying guys but to be honest I don't see beyond the London based members of the board. It's them this is aimed at.

I think the Americans might become more hands on if this fails and turn to proper Charlton men like Curbs and Brownie as advisors while keeping Paul Elliot involved.

Obviously I have changed the thread title because I really wasn't including Josh Friedman and co. as part of my criticism.

I think the likes of Rodwell, Carter and even Charlie should step aside if things continue to go South. They are not football people so shouldn't pretend to be either. Hiding behind those that are doesn't do anyone much good.

Before all of that though the first thing that needs to happen is the removal of Andy Scott. He has done absolutely nothing for the club apart from talk complete and utter bollocks everytime his mouth opens.

Nothing in his make up suggests that he should occupy a technical director's role, especially when on the pitch there is nothing technical about us.

[brad]

Sept 29, 2024 15:38:11 GMT reamsofverse said:

I hear what you are saying guys but to be honest I don't see beyond teh London based members of the board. It's them this is aimed at.

I think the Americans might become more hands on if this fails and turn to proper Charlton men like Curbs and Brownie as advisors while keeping Paul Elliot involved.

Obviously I have changed the thread title because I really wasn't including Josh Friedman and co. as part of my criticism.

I think the likes of Rodwell, Carter and even Charlie should step aside if things continue to go South. They are not football people so shouldn't pretend to be either. Hiding behind those that are doesn't do anyone much good.

Before all of that though the first thing that needs to happen is the removal of Andy Scott. He has done absolutely nothing for the club apart from talk complete and utter bollocks everytime his mouth opens.

Nothing in his make up suggests that he should occupy a technical director's role, especially when on the pitch there is nothing technical about us.

Got to agree with this the heat will soon come onto the board and they have to take ownership. If there is real billionaire owners involved writing off £30/£40m over a couple of seasons is small change. Its all about a flip earn as much as they can with the smallest outlay. But they won't ever get that sell while we are in league one I don't get there plan. I got to meet 1 of the Leyton Orient owners yesterday totally involved and invested in the club and writing out cheques monthly to push the club forward.

[clarky]

Sept 29, 2024 15:38:11 GMT reamsofverse said:

I hear what you are saying guys but to be honest I don't see beyond the London based members of the board. It's them this is aimed at.

I think the Americans might become more hands on if this fails and turn to proper Charlton men like Curbs and Brownie as advisors while keeping Paul Elliot involved.

Obviously I have changed the thread title because I really wasn't including Josh Friedman and co. as part of my criticism.

I think the likes of Rodwell, Carter and even Charlie should step aside if things continue to go South. They are not football people so shouldn't pretend to be either. Hiding behind those that are doesn't do anyone much good.

Before all of that though the first thing that needs to happen is the removal of Andy Scott. He has done absolutely nothing for the club apart from talk complete and utter bollocks everytime his mouth opens.

Nothing in his make up suggests that he should occupy a technical director's role, especially when on the pitch there is nothing technical about us.

Pretty much where I am mate. I am sure the American investors aren't savvy on L1 football and rely on the London end, and to me that is where the problem lies.

[kings hill addick]

Sept 29, 2024 16:00:41 GMT brad said:

Sept 29, 2024 15:38:11 GMT reamsofverse said:

I hear what you are saying guys but to be honest I don't see beyond teh London based members of the board. It's them this is aimed at.

I think the Americans might become more hands on if this fails and turn to proper Charlton men like Curbs and Brownie as advisors while keeping Paul Elliot involved.

Obviously I have changed the thread title because I really wasn't including Josh Friedman and co. as part of my criticism.

I think the likes of Rodwell, Carter and even Charlie should step aside if things continue to go South. They are not football people so shouldn't pretend to be either. Hiding behind those that are doesn't do anyone much good.

Before all of that though the first thing that needs to happen is the removal of Andy Scott. He has done absolutely nothing for the club apart from talk complete and utter bollocks everytime his mouth opens.

Nothing in his make up suggests that he should occupy a technical director's role, especially when on the pitch there is nothing technical about us.

Got to agree with this the heat will soon come onto the board and they have to take ownership. If there is real billionaire owners involved writing off £30/£40m over a couple of seasons is small change. Its all about a flip earn as much as they can with the smallest outlay. But they won't ever get that sell while we are in league one I don't get there plan. I got to meet 1 of the Leyton Orient owners yesterday totally involved and invested in the club and writing out cheques monthly to push the club forward.

I’m not sure the billionaire owners are looking for a profit. They have plenty of money already.

I suspect that they like the idea of owning a London based Premier League football club and recognised that buying one in League One and getting it promoted twice was a lot less that the £4bn plus that Chelsea was sold for.

[AndyB]

Sept 29, 2024 16:39:01 GMT kings hill addick said:

Sept 29, 2024 16:00:41 GMT brad said:

Got to agree with this the heat will soon come onto the board and they have to take ownership. If there is real billionaire owners involved writing off £30/£40m over a couple of seasons is small change. It’s all about a flip earn as much as they can with the smallest outlay. But they won't ever get that sell while we are in league one I don't get there plan. I got to meet 1 of the Leyton Orient owners yesterday totally involved and invested in the club and writing out cheques monthly to push the club forward.

I’m not sure the billionaire owners are looking for a profit. They have plenty of money already.

I suspect that they like the idea of owning a London based Premier League football club and recognised that buying one in League One and getting it promoted twice was a lot less that the £4bn plus that Chelsea was sold for.

If that’s the case why didn’t they invest properly rather than reinvest the May money?

[kings hill addick]

Sept 29, 2024 16:59:39 GMT AndyB said:

Sept 29, 2024 16:39:01 GMT kings hill addick said:

I’m not sure the billionaire owners are looking for a profit. They have plenty of money already.

I suspect that they like the idea of owning a London based Premier League football club and recognised that buying one in League One and getting it promoted twice was a lot less that the £4bn plus that Chelsea was sold for.

If that’s the case why didn’t they invest properly rather than reinvest the May money?

Because Charlie Methven promised them they he could do it on the cheap - probably in exchange for some shares.

[seriouslyred]

Sept 29, 2024 16:59:39 GMT AndyB said:

Sept 29, 2024 16:39:01 GMT kings hill addick said:

I’m not sure the billionaire owners are looking for a profit. They have plenty of money already.

I suspect that they like the idea of owning a London based Premier League football club and recognised that buying one in League One and getting it promoted twice was a lot less that the £4bn plus that Chelsea was sold for.

If that’s the case why didn’t they invest properly rather than reinvest the May money?

They are guided by the SMT and football management as to budgets, milestones, target xG, and ultimately a likely range of outcomes.

As posted higher up, they are already underwriting significant losses. Why would they increase transfer / signing on fee and wage budgets unless they see real capability at The Valley and Sparrows Lane?

Many hoped that Jones with his experience could shore up the defence AND improve our attacking threat.

What's frustrating is that the addition of just two quality players plus Miles Leaburn could make a real difference. But the attacking side is so incredibly poor that fans (and probably investors) are asking WTF?!

As others have intimated, it's inevitable that heads will roll. And perhaps long before the end of the season?!