brad
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Post by brad on Sept 29, 2024 17:59:58 GMT
Got to agree with this the heat will soon come onto the board and they have to take ownership. If there is real billionaire owners involved writing off £30/£40m over a couple of seasons is small change. Its all about a flip earn as much as they can with the smallest outlay. But they won't ever get that sell while we are in league one I don't get there plan. I got to meet 1 of the Leyton Orient owners yesterday totally involved and invested in the club and writing out cheques monthly to push the club forward. I’m not sure the billionaire owners are looking for a profit. They have plenty of money already. I suspect that they like the idea of owning a London based Premier League football club and recognised that buying one in League One and getting it promoted twice was a lot less that the £4bn plus that Chelsea was sold for. It's all to flip the club they are businessmen at the end of the day. Guessing the likes Rodwell. Scott and defo Charlie get an form of % for the sell of the club. Haven't got a major issue with this as long as they invest to get the Club promoted etc. They have never done a interview and talk about there plans they just hide behind the others. Honestly they only had to spending a £3 to £5m budget to go a real go in this league. But lucky if the spend £200k for what we bought in this summer |
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Post by dickybaby on Sept 30, 2024 8:17:24 GMT
We've been round this again and again since RD. Where are the serious money men interested in buying Charlton ? There arent any
Why ? We dont own the ground, lose shedloads of money, got quite moany fans that dont turn up unless we win, revenues not great etc etc.
I love Charlton but if I wanted to plough millions into a club it wouldnt be Charlton I choose.
Yes you can say spend loads to get the club into the championship and fans will turn up but thats a big risk. Others are doing that already. I dont blame any of them for taking the long term route
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Post by se7sm on Sept 30, 2024 9:18:37 GMT
Think we have been down the restrictions of FFP and we all know in league one and two owners can put in as much money as they like as a donation With no expectation of repayment. therefore a wealthy owner can fund the Club in ways that is not permitted in other divisions and their lies our problem we don’t have one owner. Must be madness trying to agree extra cash all agreeing to put the same in never going to work in my opinion .
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Post by valleydobson1 on Sept 30, 2024 15:35:20 GMT
Royston wrote It was always suspicious that three so called billionaires needed a consortium of 7 to spread the risk & investment.
It is plain to almost everyone now that they haven’t spent - they certainly haven’t invested anything like enough where it counts in the team - to suggest that they stand any chance of being successful.
Relaying the pitch, the chicken hut in the car park, Hawtrey’s favourite actor “Dr Will” …all window dressing from Methven, designed to distract.
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Sept 30, 2024 22:58:51 GMT
Not seen this mentioned elsewhere, but the non selection of Terry Taylor might even have a tightarse ownership element.
Even though he was out of contract, he was under 23 when we signed him, so we had to agree compensation and we apparently offered Burton a better deal than Championship Plymouth and Cardiff did.
Burton fans at the time reckoned it was minimal money upfront but loads of add-ons based on appearances (similar to our Coventry deal with West Ham, by the sounds of it).
If we really do have tightarse billionaires and have to make payments to Burton when Taylor hits 10, 20, 50 or whatever league appearances (he's on 5 at present), suddenly it makes sense that NJ is only allowed to play him in the mickey mouse pizza cup.
In retrospect Duchatelet was a great owner compared to what has followed. I'd honestly have him back in a flash now.
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Post by reamsofverse on Oct 1, 2024 13:59:46 GMT
Not seen this mentioned elsewhere, but the non selection of Terry Taylor might even have a tightarse ownership element. Even though he was out of contract, he was under 23 when we signed him, so we had to agree compensation and we apparently offered Burton a better deal than Championship Plymouth and Cardiff did. Burton fans at the time reckoned it was minimal money upfront but loads of add-ons based on appearances (similar to our Coventry deal with West Ham, by the sounds of it). If we really do have tightarse billionaires and have to make payments to Burton when Taylor hits 10, 20, 50 or whatever league appearances (he's on 5 at present), suddenly it makes sense that NJ is only allowed to play him in the mickey mouse pizza cup. In retrospect Duchatelet was a great owner compared to what has followed. I'd honestly have him back in a flash now. Mickey Mouse ownership. Rodwell is a puppet on a string. |
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Post by scabbyhorse on Oct 1, 2024 16:44:28 GMT
I am absolutely certain that these owners are ineffective and will not contribute to moving the club forward in any meaningful way. As ever, though, I’d be happy to be proven wrong. You could argue that they have made improvements in the infrastructure, which isn't too difficult considering they don't own the ground or the training facilities. However, they have failed, and will likely continue to fail, in properly investing money into the team.
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Post by valleydobson1 on Oct 1, 2024 16:46:36 GMT
I am absolutely certain that these owners are ineffective and will not contribute to moving the club forward in any meaningful way. As ever, though, I’d be happy to be proven wrong. You could argue that they have made improvements in the infrastructure, which isn't too difficult considering they don't own the ground or the training facilities. However, they have failed, and will likely continue to fail, in properly investing money into the team. They have debt running our club now sell up for more or less they paid July 2023.improve on the pitch is the only way. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Oct 1, 2024 17:03:01 GMT
I am absolutely certain that these owners are ineffective and will not contribute to moving the club forward in any meaningful way. As ever, though, I’d be happy to be proven wrong. You could argue that they have made improvements in the infrastructure, which isn't too difficult considering they don't own the ground or the training facilities. However, they have failed, and will likely continue to fail, in properly investing money into the team. I totally agree with this…..If they were really keen to take this club up through the leagues they would have invested better than what happened in the summer……7 players and then the budget seemingly blown…. It begs the question which I have boringly asked for the last few months, what’s in it for them, why did they actually buy us as they will get nowt back unless we go up through the leagues….until we actually hear from the investors themselves unlike the Birmingham and Wrexham owners we have no idea…..makes little sense to me…. |
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Post by seriouslyred on Oct 1, 2024 19:41:06 GMT
I am absolutely certain that these owners are ineffective and will not contribute to moving the club forward in any meaningful way. As ever, though, I’d be happy to be proven wrong. You could argue that they have made improvements in the infrastructure, which isn't too difficult considering they don't own the ground or the training facilities. However, they have failed, and will likely continue to fail, in properly investing money into the team. I totally agree with this…..If they were really keen to take this club up through the leagues they would have invested better than what happened in the summer……7 players and then the budget seemingly blown…. It begs the question which I have boringly asked for the last few months, what’s in it for them, why did they actually buy us as they will get nowt back unless we go up through the leagues….until we actually hear from the investors themselves unlike the Birmingham and Wrexham owners we have no idea…..makes little sense to me…. At the risk of repeating posts made elsewhere, the three investors have bought into a plan whereby our prospects on the pitch and commercially improve over time. But we're not spending millions on individual players. We might judge the squad now, but would we take a different view when Miles starts, to be replaced by Chuks on the hour mark. And what's our perspective should we snatch a win in the second half, leading to an unlikely bounce back into the top six?! It's a multi year plan with sufficient funding for a top six playing budget. As some of us have pointed out, failure to make the top six should have consequences for the executive. If the season is dead by February, as per the last few years, then we might expect change sooner rather than later? If Jones fails, do the investors want the same people running the recruitment of a replacement plus everything else? Rodwell and Scott have recommended Holden, then appointed Appleton and now Jones' hoof ball. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Oct 1, 2024 19:42:37 GMT
I am absolutely certain that these owners are ineffective and will not contribute to moving the club forward in any meaningful way. As ever, though, I’d be happy to be proven wrong. You could argue that they have made improvements in the infrastructure, which isn't too difficult considering they don't own the ground or the training facilities. However, they have failed, and will likely continue to fail, in properly investing money into the team. 100% A good first month of the season but we all knew we weren't strong enough or carried enough of an attacking threat. What's happening now is no surprise to me at all. We are a very, very poor side, not helped by the manager handing a final pay day on a plate to some of the worst Charlton signings I have ever know. Three of those came from Luton. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Oct 1, 2024 20:07:06 GMT
Right. When and where are the protests? This is pathetic
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Post by herewegoagain on Oct 1, 2024 21:43:15 GMT
If they are not serious about bringing success to the club, which will take substantial investment as we know, then they need to sell up and go. They haven’t even had the decency to communicate with the fans about their plans and intentions, instead hiring an ineffective and expensive senior management team who are presiding over yet more failure and trying to pull the wool over the fans eyes by pretending the team has had significant investment, when it clearly hasn’t. Many fans have had enough of it now and I wouldn’t be surprised to see protests if our losing streak extends further.
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Post by aucklandaddick on Oct 1, 2024 21:46:54 GMT
If they are not serious about bringing success to the club, which will take substantial investment as we know, then they need to sell up and go. They haven’t even had the decency to communicate with the fans about their plans and intentions, instead hiring an ineffective and expensive senior management team who are presiding over yet more failure and trying to pull the wool over the fans eyes by pretending the team has had significant investment, when it clearly hasn’t. Many fans have had enough of it now and I wouldn’t be surprised to see protests if our losing streak extends further. Agree with this and with you about the lack of communication from the owners..…..if Birmingham, Wrexham and Stockports owners can give their vision why can’t ours….. |
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Post by clarky on Oct 1, 2024 22:03:46 GMT
I would start by getting rid of the SMT, they are the ones getting paid for this. failure and will be far easier to replace than the Owners.
If we can restart with a SMT that actually knows what it is doing then perhaps the Owners will take their advice and provide the necessary readies.
I know I am like a broken record but I have always believed and still do that Charlie is the route of the problem. He put this show together and I think he has always been pulling the strings so it is about time the Owners actually started taking ownership and began by getting rid of the real deadwood that is holding our beloved club back.
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