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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 29, 2024 17:32:47 GMT
Does Nathan Jones agree we need a number 10? Based on the way we’ve set up so far in pre season he’s not planning to play with one. You may or may not agree that’s the right playing strategy, but the recruitment team can only source players for Jones’ ultimate approval that fit the requirements he’s given to them. Think this is correct. It would appear that Jones likes to set up with two No8s with a CDM behind. The problem we have is that Coventry, Docherty, Berry and Taylor all look more like No6s. I would say Anderson is our most forward midfielder but not sure he is yet good enough to command a regular starting place. Early days but I remain unconvinced that he has the right players to carry out his desired strategy that will produce the goals required from that area of the pitch. Totally agree. Seems to be going down the same path as what got him into trouble at Southampton. Madness to play without a 10 or CAM. |
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Post by discocafc on Jul 29, 2024 17:54:36 GMT
Think this is correct. It would appear that Jones likes to set up with two No8s with a CDM behind. The problem we have is that Coventry, Docherty, Berry and Taylor all look more like No6s. I would say Anderson is our most forward midfielder but not sure he is yet good enough to command a regular starting place. Early days but I remain unconvinced that he has the right players to carry out his desired strategy that will produce the goals required from that area of the pitch. Totally agree. Seems to be going down the same path as what got him into trouble at Southampton. Madness to play without a 10 or CAM. He was at Southampton for 4 months and they were already in trouble anyway. |
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Post by reddan12 on Jul 29, 2024 17:55:32 GMT
Think this is correct. It would appear that Jones likes to set up with two No8s with a CDM behind. The problem we have is that Coventry, Docherty, Berry and Taylor all look more like No6s. I would say Anderson is our most forward midfielder but not sure he is yet good enough to command a regular starting place. Early days but I remain unconvinced that he has the right players to carry out his desired strategy that will produce the goals required from that area of the pitch. Totally agree. Seems to be going down the same path as what got him into trouble at Southampton. Madness to play without a 10 or CAM. Sorry but at Southampton he did play 4231 and 352 so that's got nothing to do with why he failed there. If he fails here it's not going to be because he got no number 10. It's would be more of a case of him not executing he's plan because most of the players that we have brought in are suited to the roles he wants them to play. |
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Post by norfolkrobin on Jul 29, 2024 17:56:29 GMT
I hope something happens this week I really do. We had excuses to be well short this time last year but a year on and the owners should know better but I'm not seeing it. Reams,do you believe Bishop is on stand by for when someone is shipped out? |
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Post by tidyjensen on Jul 29, 2024 18:07:27 GMT
Just out of curiosity, how much money have we spent so far this transfer window? I understand a lot of undisclosed fees but rough figures if anyone can share it please
My understanding is most has been spent on Ahadme which was Alfie money?
I feel we've had a really decent window so far so not having a dig at the board, just interested.
Cheers
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 29, 2024 18:08:58 GMT
I hope something happens this week I really do. We had excuses to be well short this time last year but a year on and the owners should know better but I'm not seeing it. Reams,do you believe Bishop is on stand by for when someone is shipped out? I don't think the player would put himself in that siuation mate. He has other interest I believe. |
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Post by valley on Jul 29, 2024 18:12:09 GMT
Just out of curiosity, how much money have we spent so far this transfer window? I understand a lot of undisclosed fees but rough figures if anyone can share it please My understanding is most has been spent on Ahadme which was Alfie money? I feel we've had a really decent window so far so not having a dig at the board, just interested. Cheers Would tell you but I have too much time on my hands lol. |
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Post by tidyjensen on Jul 29, 2024 18:13:07 GMT
Just out of curiosity, how much money have we spent so far this transfer window? I understand a lot of undisclosed fees but rough figures if anyone can share it please My understanding is most has been spent on Ahadme which was Alfie money? I feel we've had a really decent window so far so not having a dig at the board, just interested. Cheers Would tell you but I have too much time on my hands lol.  |
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Post by clarky on Jul 29, 2024 18:33:38 GMT
Just out of curiosity, how much money have we spent so far this transfer window? I understand a lot of undisclosed fees but rough figures if anyone can share it please My understanding is most has been spent on Ahadme which was Alfie money? I feel we've had a really decent window so far so not having a dig at the board, just interested. Cheers No idea, but not enough. |
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Post by grapevine49 on Jul 29, 2024 19:09:47 GMT
A lot of words today but I am sorry guys THIS IS PRE SEASON.
I am not sure one single player has completed a full 90 minutes yet. We have seen 1 poor performance. I have no interest in results at this point. Performances? Yes Results? No. Yet we looked comfortable enough at Dartford (6 - 1), Were the better side against Millwall (0 -2), were effective in Slovenia - Gotzepe (3 - 1) drew with Palace (1-1) and should have won.
Wimbledon was not good enough but as I pointed out it was hardly the first choice selection for 77 minutes and I am not going to get “pissy” about the last 15 mins.
Jones did not sign Maynard-Brewer, Watson, Edmond’s-Green, Jones, Gillesphey, Edun, Coventry, Taylor, Fraser Aneke - 10 players,
No head coach or Manager builds a promotion squad with 7 development players none of whom -Asiimwe, Z. Mitchell, Small, Anderson, Campbell, Kanu and Leaburn - has completed a full season EFL season of starts. Powell had Pritchard, Bowyer had Djikstel, Aribo and Grant.
We have added slightly more seniority with Ness on another development year, Mannion a reserve keeper, Ramsay, A. Mitchell, Edwards and Ahadme.
Promotions are built around “grown ups” which is why we have added Berry, Docherty and Godden. Crucially the spine is not there. The No 1 Keeper, The Left Centre Back and the Central Midfielder are missing. Jones has set down the template it is up to the executive to get the job done. As and when they do and the bodies are in the building I will be happy to talk
Overall as it stands Jones has with Ramsay & Small last year added just 9 names to a remaining existing senior squad of 16. That is just 36%. There is still a journey to travel here
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jul 29, 2024 21:56:01 GMT
A lot of words today but I am sorry guys THIS IS PRE SEASON. I am not sure one single player has completed a full 90 minutes yet. We have seen I poor performance. I have no interest in results at this point. Performances? Yes Results? No. Yet we looked comfortable enough at Dartford (6 - 1), Were the better side against Millwall (0 -2), were effective in Slovenia - Gotzepe (3 - 1) drew with Palace (1-1) and should have won. Wimbledon was not good enough but as I pointed out it was hardly the first selection for 77 minutes and I am not going to get “pissy” about the last 15 mins. Jones did not sign Maynard-Brewer, Watson, Edmond’s-Green, Jones, Gillesphey, Edun, Coventry, Taylor, Fraser Aneke - 10 players, No head coach or Manager builds a promotion squad with 7 development players none of whom -Asiimwe, Z. Mitchell, Small, Anderson, Campbell, Kanu and Leaburn - has completed a full season EFL season of starts. Powell had Pritchard, Bowyer had Djikstel, Aribo and Grant. We have added slightly more seniority with Ness on another development year, Mannion a reserve keeper, Ramsay, A. Mitchell, Edwards and Ahadme. Promotions are built around “grown ups” which is why we have added Berry, Docherty and Godden. Crucially the spine is not there. The No 1 Keeper, The Left Centre Back and the Central Midfielder are missing. Jones has set down the template it is up to the executive to get the job done. As and when they do and the bodies are in the building I will be happy to talk Overall as it stands Jones has with Ramsay & Small last year added just 9 names to a remaining existing senior squad of 16. That is just 36%. There is still a journey to travel here Which is exactly what I was saying last night……but Grapevine puts it so much better than me………..🤣🤣 |
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Post by scoham on Jul 30, 2024 6:54:20 GMT
A lot of words today but I am sorry guys THIS IS PRE SEASON. I am not sure one single player has completed a full 90 minutes yet. We have seen 1 poor performance. I have no interest in results at this point. Performances? Yes Results? No. Yet we looked comfortable enough at Dartford (6 - 1), Were the better side against Millwall (0 -2), were effective in Slovenia - Gotzepe (3 - 1) drew with Palace (1-1) and should have won. Wimbledon was not good enough but as I pointed out it was hardly the first choice selection for 77 minutes and I am not going to get “pissy” about the last 15 mins. Jones did not sign Maynard-Brewer, Watson, Edmond’s-Green, Jones, Gillesphey, Edun, Coventry, Taylor, Fraser Aneke - 10 players, No head coach or Manager builds a promotion squad with 7 development players none of whom -Asiimwe, Z. Mitchell, Small, Anderson, Campbell, Kanu and Leaburn - has completed a full season EFL season of starts. Powell had Pritchard, Bowyer had Djikstel, Aribo and Grant. We have added slightly more seniority with Ness on another development year, Mannion a reserve keeper, Ramsay, A. Mitchell, Edwards and Ahadme. Promotions are built around “grown ups” which is why we have added Berry, Docherty and Godden. Crucially the spine is not there. The No 1 Keeper, The Left Centre Back and the Central Midfielder are missing. Jones has set down the template it is up to the executive to get the job done. As and when they do and the bodies are in the building I will be happy to talk Overall as it stands Jones has with Ramsay & Small last year added just 9 names to a remaining existing senior squad of 16. That is just 36%. There is still a journey to travel here Don’t disagree with the main points, but Bowyer had quite a young squad - as well as those three he also had Phillips, Lapslie, Morgan, Hackett-Fairchild and Stevenson. |
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Post by manikin on Jul 30, 2024 7:00:45 GMT
A lot of words today but I am sorry guys THIS IS PRE SEASON. I am not sure one single player has completed a full 90 minutes yet. We have seen 1 poor performance. I have no interest in results at this point. Performances? Yes Results? No. Yet we looked comfortable enough at Dartford (6 - 1), Were the better side against Millwall (0 -2), were effective in Slovenia - Gotzepe (3 - 1) drew with Palace (1-1) and should have won. Wimbledon was not good enough but as I pointed out it was hardly the first choice selection for 77 minutes and I am not going to get “pissy” about the last 15 mins. Jones did not sign Maynard-Brewer, Watson, Edmond’s-Green, Jones, Gillesphey, Edun, Coventry, Taylor, Fraser Aneke - 10 players, No head coach or Manager builds a promotion squad with 7 development players none of whom -Asiimwe, Z. Mitchell, Small, Anderson, Campbell, Kanu and Leaburn - has completed a full season EFL season of starts. Powell had Pritchard, Bowyer had Djikstel, Aribo and Grant. We have added slightly more seniority with Ness on another development year, Mannion a reserve keeper, Ramsay, A. Mitchell, Edwards and Ahadme. Promotions are built around “grown ups” which is why we have added Berry, Docherty and Godden. Crucially the spine is not there. The No 1 Keeper, The Left Centre Back and the Central Midfielder are missing. Jones has set down the template it is up to the executive to get the job done. As and when they do and the bodies are in the building I will be happy to talk Overall as it stands Jones has with Ramsay & Small last year added just 9 names to a remaining existing senior squad of 16. That is just 36%. There is still a journey to travel here Well said, sums it up perfectly. |
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Post by scabbyhorse on Jul 30, 2024 7:13:41 GMT
Great post, Grapevine. As it stands today, would people agree we have a top 10 squad? I would say we are one decent attacking midfielder away from being top 6, and probably three very good players away from possibly being top 2, provided injuries are kind to us this season. Surely, we are due a bit of luck in that department.
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Post by cafcph on Jul 30, 2024 7:18:03 GMT
Great post, Grapevine. As it stands today, would people agree we have a top 10 squad? I would say we are one decent attacking midfielder away from being top 6, and probably three very good players away from possibly being top 2, provided injuries are kind to us this season. Surely, we are due a bit of luck in that department. I’d say three away from a top 6 squad. We need the GK, LCB and an AM. That’s a solid squad then. Just my opinion. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 30, 2024 7:23:33 GMT
A lot of words today but I am sorry guys THIS IS PRE SEASON. I am not sure one single player has completed a full 90 minutes yet. We have seen 1 poor performance. I have no interest in results at this point. Performances? Yes Results? No. Yet we looked comfortable enough at Dartford (6 - 1), Were the better side against Millwall (0 -2), were effective in Slovenia - Gotzepe (3 - 1) drew with Palace (1-1) and should have won. Wimbledon was not good enough but as I pointed out it was hardly the first choice selection for 77 minutes and I am not going to get “pissy” about the last 15 mins. Jones did not sign Maynard-Brewer, Watson, Edmond’s-Green, Jones, Gillesphey, Edun, Coventry, Taylor, Fraser Aneke - 10 players, No head coach or Manager builds a promotion squad with 7 development players none of whom -Asiimwe, Z. Mitchell, Small, Anderson, Campbell, Kanu and Leaburn - has completed a full season EFL season of starts. Powell had Pritchard, Bowyer had Djikstel, Aribo and Grant. We have added slightly more seniority with Ness on another development year, Mannion a reserve keeper, Ramsay, A. Mitchell, Edwards and Ahadme. Promotions are built around “grown ups” which is why we have added Berry, Docherty and Godden. Crucially the spine is not there. The No 1 Keeper, The Left Centre Back and the Central Midfielder are missing. Jones has set down the template it is up to the executive to get the job done. As and when they do and the bodies are in the building I will be happy to talk Overall as it stands Jones has with Ramsay & Small last year added just 9 names to a remaining existing senior squad of 16. That is just 36%. There is still a journey to travel here Well said Grapevine. Much of what you have said is along the same lines as my own views, just less hard hitting than I put it!! 🤐 |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jul 30, 2024 7:36:27 GMT
Great post, Grapevine. As it stands today, would people agree we have a top 10 squad? I would say we are one decent attacking midfielder away from being top 6, and probably three very good players away from possibly being top 2, provided injuries are kind to us this season. Surely, we are due a bit of luck in that department. Agree to an extent but let’s not forget this back three is not yet capable of keeping a clean sheet and haven’t been for a while……Mitchell will improve this without doubt but we need another experienced leader in there as Saturday proved just how fragile we are and easy to score against… |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 30, 2024 8:18:01 GMT
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Post by derbyenglandloyal on Jul 30, 2024 8:59:25 GMT
I believe Warne is contemplating using Blackett-Taylor as a wing back? Take it from me he hates chasing back and can't defend. That little arrangement would be a disaster for you! Tbf CBT did fine there and made some lovely runs but yeah he’s not wingback though. Maybe can learn something new and be more versatile if needed. Good player 👍 |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jul 30, 2024 8:59:31 GMT
He looked a tidy player and certainly changed my opinion of him….but by the looks of it we will only bring one more midfielder in and that signing could have a big bearing on how we do this season…..hopefully the owners see that we are still short of goals in this area and will fund the quality marquee style midfielder that we need……Whether that be a loan or a perm…… Would imagine Bishop will either end up back at Lincoln or somewhere like Cambridge….. |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jul 30, 2024 9:03:05 GMT
I believe Warne is contemplating using Blackett-Taylor as a wing back? Take it from me he hates chasing back and can't defend. That little arrangement would be a disaster for you! Tbf CBT did fine there and made some lovely runs but yeah he’s not wingback though. Maybe can learn something new and be more versatile if needed. Good player 👍 CBT is deffo not a wingback……on his day he can create havoc when running at defences and is well capable of scoring goals….but he can be inconsistent and disappear in games when the going gets a bit tough so you just wonder if he will get found out at Championship level where the quality of defending and defenders is far better than what he has been used to……We shall see….. It certainly wouldn’t surprise me if he was loaned out to a league one club in the Jan window…. |
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Post by bexleyboy on Jul 30, 2024 9:17:12 GMT
Great post, Grapevine. As it stands today, would people agree we have a top 10 squad? I would say we are one decent attacking midfielder away from being top 6, and probably three very good players away from possibly being top 2, provided injuries are kind to us this season. Surely, we are due a bit of luck in that department. Agree to an extent but let’s not forget this back three is not yet capable of keeping a clean sheet and haven’t been for a while……Mitchell will improve this without doubt but we need another experienced leader in there as Saturday proved just how fragile we are and easy to score against… His first 3 central defenders kept a clean sheet on Saturday .. two goals come after changes .. |
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Post by bexleyboy on Jul 30, 2024 9:17:47 GMT
Tbf CBT did fine there and made some lovely runs but yeah he’s not wingback though. Maybe can learn something new and be more versatile if needed. Good player 👍 CBT is deffo not a wingback……on his day he can create havoc when running at defences and is well capable of scoring goals….but he can be inconsistent and disappear in games when the going gets a bit tough so you just wonder if he will get found out at Championship level where the quality of defending and defenders is far better than what he has been used to……We shall see….. It certainly wouldn’t surprise me if he was loaned out to a league one club in the Jan window…. If Derby play CBT as wing back they will be relegated by Jan |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Jul 30, 2024 9:31:32 GMT
Agree to an extent but let’s not forget this back three is not yet capable of keeping a clean sheet and haven’t been for a while……Mitchell will improve this without doubt but we need another experienced leader in there as Saturday proved just how fragile we are and easy to score against… His first 3 central defenders kept a clean sheet on Saturday .. two goals come after changes .. You are looking to paper over the cracks Bexley, we haven’t kept many clean sheets in the last 12 months …….NJ clearly didn’t rate Thomas or Hector but still the majority of the time he picked them over Gillesphey and REG…….Admittedly Jones was injured back end of the season but let’s not forget that during the early part of the season he was culpable for mistakes which lead to him being dropped from the team so there was no real consistency from him……. It didn’t help us also having keepers who hardly made any saves yet were leaking 2-3 goals a game, which NJ picked up on and is rectifying this season….. My major concern is up until now we have only brought in Mitchell, which IMO is definitely not enough….regardless of who came on as subs on Saturday we still left a player unmarked in the box to score easily like we did on many occasions last season and the second goal was far too easy for them to score….. We quite rightly go on about the concern about where are the goals coming from but more importantly we need experienced leaders at the back including a new number one keeper to start earning clean sheets because if we can do that we only need to score a goal to get three points…. |
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Post by bexleyboy on Jul 30, 2024 9:34:46 GMT
Big blow for Pompey Cody Bishop ruled out for considerable time after tests proved he has a heart condition
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Post by bexleyboy on Jul 30, 2024 9:36:25 GMT
His first 3 central defenders kept a clean sheet on Saturday .. two goals come after changes .. You are looking to paper over the cracks Bexley, we haven’t kept many clean sheets in the last 12 months …….NJ clearly didn’t rate Thomas or Hector but still the majority of the time he picked them over Gillesphey and REG…….Admittedly Jones was injured back end of the season but let’s not forget that during the early part of the season he was culpable for mistakes which lead to him being dropped from the team so there was no real consistency from him……. It didn’t help us also having keepers who hardly made any saves yet were leaking 2-3 goals a game, which NJ picked up on and is rectifying this season….. My major concern is up until now we have only brought in Mitchell, which IMO is definitely not enough….regardless of who came on as subs on Saturday we still left a player unmarked in the box to score easily like we did on many occasions last season and the second goal was far too easy for them to score….. We quite rightly go on about the concern about where are the goals coming from but more importantly we need experienced leaders at the back including a new number one keeper to start earning clean sheets because if we can do that we only need to score a goal to get three points…. Jones Mitchell and Gilly look a good three in pre season and have settled in together well |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 30, 2024 9:53:38 GMT
You are looking to paper over the cracks Bexley, we haven’t kept many clean sheets in the last 12 months …….NJ clearly didn’t rate Thomas or Hector but still the majority of the time he picked them over Gillesphey and REG…….Admittedly Jones was injured back end of the season but let’s not forget that during the early part of the season he was culpable for mistakes which lead to him being dropped from the team so there was no real consistency from him……. It didn’t help us also having keepers who hardly made any saves yet were leaking 2-3 goals a game, which NJ picked up on and is rectifying this season….. My major concern is up until now we have only brought in Mitchell, which IMO is definitely not enough….regardless of who came on as subs on Saturday we still left a player unmarked in the box to score easily like we did on many occasions last season and the second goal was far too easy for them to score….. We quite rightly go on about the concern about where are the goals coming from but more importantly we need experienced leaders at the back including a new number one keeper to start earning clean sheets because if we can do that we only need to score a goal to get three points…. Jones Mitchell and Gilly look a good three in pre season and have settled in together well Rubbish. Need a leader and while I prefer them to Hector and Thomas I think they are vulnerable when put under pressure. |
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Post by anthony55 on Jul 30, 2024 10:10:08 GMT
CBT is deffo not a wingback……on his day he can create havoc when running at defences and is well capable of scoring goals….but he can be inconsistent and disappear in games when the going gets a bit tough so you just wonder if he will get found out at Championship level where the quality of defending and defenders is far better than what he has been used to……We shall see….. It certainly wouldn’t surprise me if he was loaned out to a league one club in the Jan window…. If Derby play CBT as wing back they will be relegated by Jan |
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Post by anthony55 on Jul 30, 2024 10:10:45 GMT
Slight exaggeration there mate
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Post by jonkool on Jul 30, 2024 10:13:47 GMT
I am uncertain as to who will initially be playing as right wing back. I assumed that Ramsay would start as he has a good engine and positive attacking qualities and him and Small would be a positive wing back combo.
But he has played more on the right side of the back three with Watson playing the advanced role. I hope to be proved wrong but I just can’t see Watson cutting the mustard given that in block G we had ample opportunity of seeing Watson for most of last season.
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