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Post by brad on Jul 27, 2024 17:22:40 GMT
The three we have in there are better at doing that than what they are going forward to we need to get one of those to adapt to that role instead of bringing in another defence minded midfielder. I have to say I was surprised Dobson went to Wrexham because they already have a player better than him in the same role which is George Evans. Parkinson knows him well. |
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Post by clarky on Jul 27, 2024 17:26:32 GMT
The three we have in there are better at doing that than what they are going forward to we need to get one of those to adapt to that role instead of bringing in another defence minded midfielder. I have to say I was surprised Dobson went to Wrexham because they already have a player better than him in the same role which is George Evans. You need two in every position Wrexham have two good No 4s we don't have one. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 27, 2024 17:27:15 GMT
I've been told there is very little or no interest in the players we want to shift on.
How a technical director can get away with lumbering us with so much dead wood in the space of 12 months is beyond me.
Let's hope he wasn't scouting the next one on his long list at Stevenage last night.
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Post by brad on Jul 27, 2024 17:30:41 GMT
I've been told there is very little or no interest in the players we want to shift on. How a technical director can get away with lumbering us with so much dead wood in the space of 12 months is beyond me. Let's hope he wasn't scouting the next one on his long list at Stevenage last night. How does Andy Scott still have a job. Most would be sacked if was that bad at your job. But still has his little say after every transfer and what his done at the training ground. Fella is a joke and failed in every job he has done in football. But got people around him that will protect him. |
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Post by reddan12 on Jul 27, 2024 17:35:12 GMT
I've been told there is very little or no interest in the players we want to shift on. How a technical director can get away with lumbering us with so much dead wood in the space of 12 months is beyond me. Let's hope he wasn't scouting the next one on his long list at Stevenage last night. How does Andy Scott still have a job. Most would be sacked if was that bad at your job. But still has his little say after every transfer and what his done at the training ground. Fella is a joke and failed in every job he has done in football. But got people around him that will protect him. He won't if it goes wrong this season. To be fair I think the profiles we have brought in suit the manager and workman like team he is try to build but as always I will need to see this in the league to back that up. |
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Post by clarky on Jul 27, 2024 17:43:54 GMT
I've been told there is very little or no interest in the players we want to shift on. How a technical director can get away with lumbering us with so much dead wood in the space of 12 months is beyond me. Let's hope he wasn't scouting the next one on his long list at Stevenage last night. How does Andy Scott still have a job. Most would be sacked if was that bad at your job. But still has his little say after every transfer and what his done at the training ground. Fella is a joke and failed in every job he has done in football. But got people around him that will protect him. Totally agree and Scott should ve long gone, however we all knew that the players we need to shift would be difficult so in the same breath so should Jones yet he has brought in 7 new players and not one of them fills the role where we are desperately lacking. We have a multitude of midfielders where just about all of them are the same. There is no variety or creativity and what looks like a lack of goals and whilst the likes of Docherty and Berry are good players at this level having both and not having a ball running midfielder is not what is needed and that isn't down to Scott. |
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Post by cafcfan32 on Jul 27, 2024 17:56:51 GMT
Would the ball carrying midfielder not be this kid from Jamaica…Kareim Dixon?
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 27, 2024 17:56:52 GMT
I think that we have bought some good players to the club in this window but we just lack the one that we need to knit everything together.
We look desperate for a central attacking midfielder who has a good range of passing, is physical and capable of scoring 8-10 goals this season.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 27, 2024 18:03:39 GMT
Would the ball carrying midfielder not be this kid from Jamaica…Kareim Dixon? Possibly so but it's a big ask to put on young shoulders so soon. I think he will have to aclimatise to the English game before we can say 'he's the man'. That may take time. Apart from that the other option is bringing in a 10 and Jon McAtee has to be that man unless a miracle happens and Crystal Palace sent JRS back to us. Don't take this as fact but I had a message a short while ago and it said that Bishop has gone because a deal for one of our players broke down. I took that as meaning we are overloaded in that area of the pitch so the only way another comes in is if one leaves. |
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Post by gmantaxi on Jul 27, 2024 18:05:49 GMT
When chucks can play longer than ya so called main centre forward and don’t start me on Coventry, hasn’t had a decent game since he’s been here no matter what silly bollocks say , just had enough of shit after shit every season, prove me wrong but I doubt they will !!
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Post by steve2707 on Jul 27, 2024 18:11:48 GMT
Sorry, Reams, I disagree. We've had a good pre-season, which now looks very much like it was down to one man.
You said yourself, during the Palace game, the difference that Bishop made. We have several players with a good range of passing, but if that's ALL you can do to break through the defensive lines, it becomes easy for the opposition to play against. As long as they keep their discipline.
We need that midfielder who drives forward with the ball. (Think of Kinsella or Parker.) At the moment, all our midfielders are too similar.
I thought in the second half today, that Anderson might be that player, but it didn't come off. But look at the effect TC had. Showed pace and directness.
That's the sort of senior player we need in our midfield.
(Just got in from my shlep to Plough Lane. Bit of a bu**er to get to, but a nice enough ground.)
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 27, 2024 18:14:14 GMT
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 27, 2024 18:22:14 GMT
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Post by cafcginge on Jul 27, 2024 18:38:01 GMT
So can we expect Fraser to move on this week and free up space? Or is he going to be subtly damaging our progress by not even playing😂. We are screaming out for a ball carrier/ creative midfielder to connect us from front to back. Berry has good moments and u can see his class but he just wasn’t involved enough today and isn’t really a carrier forward.
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Post by cafcginge on Jul 27, 2024 18:46:41 GMT
The movement I think needed:
In:
New keeper (Begovic most likely)
Dixon
Creative/attacking midfielder
Either left or right sided centre half (I would like to see someone like Potts who could start on the side of 3. Then play either Ramsay or Edward’s as the 3rd on the other side depending on what side is needed. Want Mitchell in the middle and feel jones isn’t mobile enough for right sided)
Out:
Fraser
Z.Mitchell (loan)
Isted
Edun
Possibly a loan for asimwe but depends if he is needed for depth.
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Post by chertseyaddick on Jul 27, 2024 18:48:41 GMT
I also see Wiki says our all 5'10" tall. Are these taken from their tinder entries? Doubt Docherty is five eight and the others not much taller. And I doubt they weigh much more than 65kg soaking wet. Two are NJ picks.
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Post by chertseyaddick on Jul 27, 2024 18:56:51 GMT
I can see Godden being an attacking midfielder before long. He is also more robust and a better tackler than our chosen three. REG/Zach/KA and/or TT to make up our triumvirat.
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Post by chertseyaddick on Jul 27, 2024 19:03:24 GMT
Would the ball carrying midfielder not be this kid from Jamaica…Kareim Dixon? The guy is a striker. His pace makes TC look merely quickish. He is not a ball carrier unless on breakaways. |
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Post by leedsaddick on Jul 27, 2024 19:15:02 GMT
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Post by aaronaldo on Jul 27, 2024 20:23:16 GMT
Undisclosed terms doesn’t mean a fee to me. I’d say it means we let him go on a free if anything. |
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Post by geronimo on Jul 27, 2024 20:50:31 GMT
I've been told there is very little or no interest in the players we want to shift on. How a technical director can get away with lumbering us with so much dead wood in the space of 12 months is beyond me. Let's hope he wasn't scouting the next one on his long list at Stevenage last night. Before you blame Scott, please identify the dead wood Scott brought in. Aneke, AMB and Fraser were all cheered from the rafters when signed and he didn't bring them to the club. |
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Post by norfolkrobin on Jul 27, 2024 20:55:29 GMT
From Cawley Teddy Bishop no longer training with #cafc. Outgoings needed before some areas of the pitch can be looked at - midfield is well-stocked at the moment. Chance if a couple go from that area it opens the door for an incoming. Dan Potts still training with the squad but just not involved in the match. Do also wonder, as triallists, that there comes a point that you don't want to risk potential injury by continuing to feature in games. Would Bishop turn out for us twice? Without the prospect of a deal being offered? I agree with you in the fact he won't risk himself anymore if we can't sign him. What has AS got over these owners? Talks a great game,but he's making SG's record look immaculate. Can't say I'm loving the thought of Begovic either? Anything left in the tank? Or just an easy payday that means he won't have to move far? Window started with some promise,becoming a damp squib. Tom Brady is buying the league one title,we might be in the mix for a late play off dash possibly? |
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 27, 2024 21:31:48 GMT
I've been told there is very little or no interest in the players we want to shift on. How a technical director can get away with lumbering us with so much dead wood in the space of 12 months is beyond me. Let's hope he wasn't scouting the next one on his long list at Stevenage last night. Before you blame Scott, please identify the dead wood Scott brought in. Aneke, AMB and Fraser were all cheered from the rafters when signed and he didn't bring them to the club. Were you on the moon for the entire 2023/24 season? Here's the list: Edun Taylor (From what we've seen so far) Coventry Ladapo Bakinson Forini Tedic Abankwah McGrandles I may even have missed a few. |
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Post by chertseyaddick on Jul 27, 2024 22:09:50 GMT
Aneke 2.0 was questioned as to why we were paying £350k to buy back a player with injury issues. AMB was not bought, he signed as a kid. For me jury still out. As a youngster he doesn't command box, poor with feet. Can be learnt. Fraser for £500k+ and highest earner, dont remember too many fans, I had him pegged as a lightweight two games in.
Cheered from the rafters? Perhaps from the Jimmy Seed stand.
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Post by bexleyboy on Jul 27, 2024 22:20:22 GMT
I've been told there is very little or no interest in the players we want to shift on. How a technical director can get away with lumbering us with so much dead wood in the space of 12 months is beyond me. Let's hope he wasn't scouting the next one on his long list at Stevenage last night. Fraser and AMB were before him so was Ness |
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Post by bexleyboy on Jul 27, 2024 22:25:47 GMT
And Derby lost at Shrewsbury Just proves what these results really mean to these clubs absolutely nothing .there pre season training games that’s why they should all be played behind closed doors and will have no bearing on the league games played on the first day |
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Post by somerton on Jul 27, 2024 22:27:35 GMT
And Derby lost at Shrewsbury Just proves what these results really mean to these clubs absolutely nothing .there pre season training games that’s why they should all be played behind closed doors and will have no bearing on the league games played on the first day If they have no meaning, how does a manager or coach know which players to start the season with. |
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Post by bexleyboy on Jul 27, 2024 22:31:02 GMT
Before you blame Scott, please identify the dead wood Scott brought in. Aneke, AMB and Fraser were all cheered from the rafters when signed and he didn't bring them to the club. Were you on the moon for the entire 2023/24 season? Here's the list: Edun Taylor (From what we've seen so far) Coventry Ladapo Bakinson Forini Tedic Abankwah McGrandles I may even have missed a few. Isted was a good keeper his performance for Barnsley especially at Wembley one of best seen .. Taylor and Coventry are key players .. Coventry today along with Doc and Berry was impressive , he done his job break up play give the simple ball , he allowed Doc and Berry to push forward and link up with the strikers …. Players like Edun and Ladapo remember fans were desperate on here to sign them and his good they were going to be .. McGrandles was just unlucky there a player there has Cambridge saw and we did when he played finally last season |
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Post by bexleyboy on Jul 27, 2024 22:33:16 GMT
And Derby lost at Shrewsbury Just proves what these results really mean to these clubs absolutely nothing .there pre season training games that’s why they should all be played behind closed doors and will have no bearing on the league games played on the first day If they have no meaning, how does a manager or coach know which players to start the season with. Managers know .. like us we not played our starting team yet that will take the pitch at Wigan .. we don’t want to give to much away to much to Wigan , Orient |
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Post by watameires on Jul 27, 2024 22:53:20 GMT
If they have no meaning, how does a manager or coach know which players to start the season with. Managers know .. like us we not played our starting team yet that will take the pitch at Wigan .. we don’t want to give to much away to much to Wigan , Orient Are we trying to lure other managers in thinking we are a bit sh*t? |
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