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Post by valley on Mar 29, 2024 7:45:50 GMT
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Post by aaronaldo on Mar 29, 2024 13:35:24 GMT
Every manager will want the same. Hopefully we can give him that.
Quite happy he’s gone public with it early on. This is realistically the first transfer window we’ve had for a long time where we have enough time, resources and knowledge in place to have a good chance at a successful window. There aren’t any financial / transfer issues, no Covid, no major spending caps, no recent manager change, not January, etc.
Nathan and the SMT have also seen the club at it’s worst and should have a great understanding of what is required to achieve our targets next year.
I’m really excited about the future with Nathan at the helm! Would love a successful window. Could be two in a row (arguably)!
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Post by aucklandaddick on Mar 29, 2024 13:49:30 GMT
Every manager will want the same. Hopefully we can give him that. Quite happy he’s gone public with it early on. This is realistically the first transfer window we’ve had for a long time where we have enough time, resources and knowledge in place to have a good chance at a successful window. There aren’t any financial / transfer issues, no Covid, no major spending caps, no recent manager change, not January, etc. Nathan and the SMT have also seen the club at it’s worst and should have a great understanding of what is required to achieve our targets next year. I’m really excited about the future with Nathan at the helm! Would love a successful window. Could be two in a row (arguably)! As long as the all recruitment is left in NJ,s hands with limited input from other sources I will be happy Jones comes across as a guy who doesn’t mess around and also doesn’t suffer fools and I think he go in just as Pompey did so successfully the early part of last summer……and look where it has left them…….it ain’t bloody rocket science
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Post by pardew123 on Mar 29, 2024 13:53:19 GMT
Jones is hungry for success so has standards it’s just what we need complete contrast to Apples he would’ve wanted assurance from owners funds would be sensible for building a top 6 side minimum which must be the aim we lose 12 mil a year or so just existing in third tier.
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Post by manikin on Mar 29, 2024 14:21:06 GMT
We have heard so many times from past managers that they want the majority of business done by the end of June. I think we now have a manager who will actually do his very best to achieve it.
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Post by reamsofverse on Mar 29, 2024 14:27:18 GMT
Has a nice little bundle to spend too.
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Post by aucklandaddick on Mar 29, 2024 14:29:17 GMT
Has a nice little bundle to spend too. And I think he will spend it wisely Reams 👍
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Post by aaronaldo on Mar 29, 2024 14:37:47 GMT
Has a nice little bundle to spend too. Good to hear!
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Mar 29, 2024 15:00:42 GMT
Every manager will want the same. Hopefully we can give him that. Quite happy he’s gone public with it early on. This is realistically the first transfer window we’ve had for a long time where we have enough time, resources and knowledge in place to have a good chance at a successful window. There aren’t any financial / transfer issues, no Covid, no major spending caps, no recent manager change, not January, etc. Nathan and the SMT have also seen the club at it’s worst and should have a great understanding of what is required to achieve our targets next year. I’m really excited about the future with Nathan at the helm! Would love a successful window. Could be two in a row (arguably)! Let’s not have the “every club/manager wants the same” argument trotted out again. Of course they do …the idea is to learn from your mistakes (loans, crocks) and to get your targets identified & signed up early. That way you get a full 6 weeks of pre season working with them. No more shitty loans & has beens.
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Post by surridgecobbler5 on Mar 30, 2024 11:27:33 GMT
It's a major overhaul. Getting the new players in is one thing. Getting the players out from what has become a bloated squad including those out on loan will be a tricky task
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Post by manikin on Mar 30, 2024 13:09:55 GMT
It's a major overhaul. Getting the new players in is one thing. Getting the players out from what has become a bloated squad including those out on loan will be a tricky task Agree must shift more than we keep of the current squad.
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Post by Tom1982 on Mar 30, 2024 13:37:49 GMT
Assuming he’s going 5-3-2, I rate Lloyd Jones, Macauley Gillesphey and Edmonds Green as the three at the back. The two wingbacks Small and Ramsey look decent too. The midfield trio definitely needs attention as does the keeper. Definitely a lot to move on too. Hector, Thomas, Edun, Taylor, Aneke, Campbell and obviously all the dud loans. Busy old summer.
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Post by kings hill addick on Mar 30, 2024 13:39:55 GMT
It's a major overhaul. Getting the new players in is one thing. Getting the players out from what has become a bloated squad including those out on loan will be a tricky task Agree must shift more than we keep of the current squad. Problem is that Sandgaard gave some of those players too much money and for too long a contract. We will be stuck with a few of them for a little longer. This is why we underperform our wage budget - a big chunk of those wages are being paid to players that are out on loan further down the pyramid, and others that are hanging around not playing. It could be a while before we can get rid of those that are not contributing but drawing a wage.
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Post by whynot on Mar 30, 2024 22:21:10 GMT
It would be nice to have an almost complete squad by the time we start playing some friendly. Is opposed to starting the season with half a squad who has never played together and waste the first 4-5 games of the season getting the players up to speed.
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Post by bexleyboy on Mar 31, 2024 8:49:45 GMT
But the fans will still want more signings on the final day or there be a meltdown .. lot don’t understand these days get your business done early means not much happening later in the window ..
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Post by valley on Mar 31, 2024 8:51:29 GMT
Just need a better all round squad.
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Post by aucklandaddick on Mar 31, 2024 9:02:16 GMT
But the fans will still want more signings on the final day or there be a meltdown .. lot don’t understand these days get your business done early means not much happening later in the window .. I would doubt that Pompey fans were going into any sort of meltdown during their successful recruitment drive early last summer They targeted who they wanted, went in with intent and got their recruits in really early in the summer and look where they are now, flying high and good luck to them I do seem to recall you at the time dismissing the majority of their In coming players, in hindsight do you think you might of been a bit misguided with your views at the time?…..🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Mar 31, 2024 11:20:30 GMT
But the fans will still want more signings on the final day or there be a meltdown .. lot don’t understand these days get your business done early means not much happening later in the window .. “Fans” don’t want last minute signings, they want to see us sign up our targets early and then enjoy a proper pre season. It seemed to work very well for Ipswich Town & Portsmouth in recent summers. The only three people I have heard maintaining this last min signings nonsense are Steve Gallen (thankfully now departed), Andy Scott (hopefully soon departed), and seriouslyredDylan Levitt, Nile John, Micheal Smith, Tedic etc …. It’s a futile waste of time going down this route. Thank God Nathan Jones concurs.
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Post by hongkongaddick on Mar 31, 2024 12:15:09 GMT
Assuming he’s going 5-3-2, I rate Lloyd Jones, Macauley Gillesphey and Edmonds Green as the three at the back. The two wingbacks Small and Ramsey look decent too. The midfield trio definitely needs attention as does the keeper. Definitely a lot to move on too. Hector, Thomas, Edun, Taylor, Aneke, Campbell and obviously all the dud loans. Busy old summer. Taylor? Don’t be silly. He’s been out most of the season so we’ve no idea what his quality is. I thought he looked alright in the snippets I saw of him as a sub at the start of the season.
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Post by DFT on Mar 31, 2024 12:22:23 GMT
I would imagine that Jones already has his targets earmarked and behind the scenes conversations are already taking place. that's what I'd like to think anyway!
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Post by Tom1982 on Mar 31, 2024 18:20:34 GMT
Assuming he’s going 5-3-2, I rate Lloyd Jones, Macauley Gillesphey and Edmonds Green as the three at the back. The two wingbacks Small and Ramsey look decent too. The midfield trio definitely needs attention as does the keeper. Definitely a lot to move on too. Hector, Thomas, Edun, Taylor, Aneke, Campbell and obviously all the dud loans. Busy old summer. Taylor? Don’t be silly. He’s been out most of the season so we’ve no idea what his quality is. I thought he looked alright in the snippets I saw of him as a sub at the start of the season. Taylor has been back for an age. He ain’t at the races, needs jogging on before he goes full Charlie Kirk on us.
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Apr 11, 2024 8:06:50 GMT
Nathan Jones once again very clear in public yesterday about the George Dobson situation - “a very good player” who is much more than just a blocker, and has other aspects of his game that are unappreciated.
Jones went on to say that we should not be letting good players leave (for free), and that he wants to continue working with George Dobson next season.
What a bizarre and pathetic state of affairs, that the club now faces using some of its summer transfer kitty to effectively buy back its own skipper and talisman - and all because a vain & prickly member of the SMT fell out with GD and jumped the gun because he wanted to assert himself as the boss, and thus ushered him out of the club in January with ridiculous haste.
Whatever you think of the Technical Director role, this episode is completely unacceptable.
I can’t imagine the investors are too happy at the thought of yet more of their cash being unnecessarily spaffed by Scott and his misjudgments.
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Post by whynot on Apr 11, 2024 15:48:43 GMT
I would love for Dobo to stay, But I can't blame him if he told the club to f-off after the way the SMT treated him. We also don't know the full details of the contract he signed with the could from Hungary, there may be a clause in it to allow him to stay.
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Post by valleyfaithful on Apr 11, 2024 15:57:01 GMT
I would love for Dobo to stay, But I can't blame him if he told the club to f-off after the way the SMT treated him. We also don't know the full details of the contract he signed with the could from Hungary, there may be a clause in it to allow him to stay. My only (blindly optimistic) view is that NJ can shelter him and fight his corner against the SMT. Based on his miraculous turnaround I’d imagine NJ fully has the ear of the owners now especially ahead of Scott. That said damage may have been done already which would be a big loss for us.
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Post by kings hill addick on Apr 11, 2024 16:02:46 GMT
I would love for Dobo to stay, But I can't blame him if he told the club to f-off after the way the SMT treated him. We also don't know the full details of the contract he signed with the could from Hungary, there may be a clause in it to allow him to stay. My only (blindly optimistic) view is that NJ can shelter him and fight his corner against the SMT. Based on his miraculous turnaround I’d imagine NJ fully has the ear of the owners now especially ahead of Scott. That said damage may have been done already which would be a big loss for us. When you say damage, already, done are you referring to the fact that Dobson has, already, signed for another club for next season?
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Post by valleyfaithful on Apr 11, 2024 18:22:28 GMT
My only (blindly optimistic) view is that NJ can shelter him and fight his corner against the SMT. Based on his miraculous turnaround I’d imagine NJ fully has the ear of the owners now especially ahead of Scott. That said damage may have been done already which would be a big loss for us. When you say damage, already, done are you referring to the fact that Dobson has, already, signed for another club for next season? I meant more that he feels sore towards Charlton due to the actions of Scott. I’d imagine as it’s a pre contract it would be compensation due that the owners would be happy to foot if Dobson was important to our plans
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Post by valley on Apr 14, 2024 8:21:45 GMT
Birmingham and Sheff wed too compete with next season maybe.
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Post by sevenoaks on Apr 14, 2024 8:27:52 GMT
My only (blindly optimistic) view is that NJ can shelter him and fight his corner against the SMT. Based on his miraculous turnaround I’d imagine NJ fully has the ear of the owners now especially ahead of Scott. That said damage may have been done already which would be a big loss for us. When you say damage, already, done are you referring to the fact that Dobson has, already, signed for another club for next season? I still reckon George Dobson will stay. It isn't that easy to replace him, after all, led to believe Terry Taylor was his replacement. That went well.... Yes can be replaced I agree, but how much are we prepared to pay??...
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Post by aucklandaddick on Apr 14, 2024 8:41:25 GMT
When you say damage, already, done are you referring to the fact that Dobson has, already, signed for another club for next season? I still reckon George Dobson will stay. It isn't that easy to replace him, after all, led to believe Terry Taylor was his replacement. That went well.... Yes can be replaced I agree, but how much are we prepared to pay??... But does he actually want to stay?………signing a pre contract elsewhere clearly doesn’t show this
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Post by Mundell on Apr 14, 2024 8:46:15 GMT
When you say damage, already, done are you referring to the fact that Dobson has, already, signed for another club for next season? I still reckon George Dobson will stay. It isn't that easy to replace him, after all, led to believe Terry Taylor was his replacement. That went well.... Yes can be replaced I agree, but how much are we prepared to pay??... There’s an assumption being made by many fans that given the choice George Dobson wants to stay. If I’d signed a three year contract with a new employer, having been offered more money while benefiting from a lower tax rate, I’d be reluctant to welch on the deal. On the one hand, walking away from a contract signed in good faith by both parties is not something I’d do lightly, while on the other the positive reasons for signing haven’t changed. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. If Dobson stays Videoton would be justified in feeling betrayed and very aggrieved. They’ve effectively given Dobson a form of free insurance and will, entirely justifiably, want compensating.
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