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Post by Occam’s Razor on Feb 10, 2024 21:22:49 GMT
People shouldn’t say they are not bothered about George Dobson leaving until they have seen Connor Coventry play.
Early days, but the lad is no world beater.
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Post by clarky on Feb 10, 2024 22:24:00 GMT
Scott has made its personal plan to get rid of Dobson since August because him stood up to him. The 2 offers he got from Charlton. 1 year Extra £500 2 years Extra £500 The offers would still made him on less money than T Watson, Mcgrandles. Hector. And even such more than the top earns this is what I heard as well albeit second hand from his dad. |
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Post by roburwash on Feb 10, 2024 23:28:36 GMT
Are we sure Dobson has been sold? A Rich Cawley tweet following a question put to Nathan Jones about why he didn’t play today suggests not. Rich Cawley saying Dobbo is signing for the Hungarian team. Was Jones misled about Dobbo being injured or was he misleading? |
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Post by aaronaldo on Feb 11, 2024 0:14:02 GMT
Are we sure Dobson has been sold? A Rich Cawley tweet following a question put to Nathan Jones about why he didn’t play today suggests not. Sounds like it. I still don’t get why he’d want to go there. Something must have happened behind the scenes. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2024 0:16:40 GMT
Are we sure Dobson has been sold? A Rich Cawley tweet following a question put to Nathan Jones about why he didn’t play today suggests not. Sounds like it. I still don’t get why he’d want to go there. Something must have happened behind the scenes. has explained why. |
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Post by hongkongaddick on Feb 11, 2024 5:30:13 GMT
So many people on here making things up and getting angry. Cut the keyboard warrior nonsense and focus on facts, please. At the moment, none of us is ITK.
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Post by clarky on Feb 11, 2024 7:36:27 GMT
So many people on here making things up and getting angry. Cut the keyboard warrior nonsense and focus on facts, please. At the moment, none of us is ITK. seems as though Cawley might be! |
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Post by mikebassett on Feb 11, 2024 8:00:29 GMT
The fact the “nicest” thing people are saying about Dobson is “he gives 100%” sums him up and where the club is that one of our better current players is summed up that way. Well, here are some other things people say about him. He is our best defensive midfielder and his forward passing ability is the best in an admittedly crap team. Curbs perceptively said he is the one player who would make it into one of his teams and Brownie agreed. The fact that he is underappreciated by the man who brought you Fiorini, Bakinson, Ladapo etc tells you everything. Also BB doesn't rate him. 'Nuff said. Exactly, best player in a crap team. He’s bang average and a mid table League One midfielder. If he doesn’t want to sign a contract, this mob of shyster’s and charlatans will sell him to get some money. |
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Post by Mundell on Feb 11, 2024 8:07:41 GMT
Are we sure Dobson has been sold? A Rich Cawley tweet following a question put to Nathan Jones about why he didn’t play today suggests not. Sounds like it. I still don’t get why he’d want to go there. Something must have happened behind the scenes. Very odd comment from Nathan Jones then. Strange move. Must be paying well and would seem to imply his agent couldn’t find the kind of deal he was looking for in the EFL. |
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Post by brad on Feb 11, 2024 10:01:03 GMT
Jones to be fair isn't even being kepted in the hoop. George signed the contract Monday and still gave Scott the final chance before signing. Then when in to Training Thursday and Jones didnt know what had even happened Monday.
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Post by watameires on Feb 11, 2024 10:16:52 GMT
Jones to be fair isn't even being kepted in the hoop. George signed the contract Monday and still gave Scott the final chance before signing. Then when in to Training Thursday and Jones didnt know what had even happened Monday. So as you’re apparently in the know - who’s decision to have Dobson train with the U21 (assuming true) |
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Post by davelowerwest on Feb 11, 2024 10:27:33 GMT
In our current team this season George seemed to be the only capable player of tackling and was easily our best midfield player. Maybe not everyone's idea of a captain but always gave 100%. Seems to me a strange decision to let two of our best players go! Bad time to be in a relegation fight with an almost different team from pre the transfer window.
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Post by clarky on Feb 11, 2024 10:30:48 GMT
In our current team this season George seemed to be the only capable player of tackling and was easily our best midfield player. Maybe not everyone's idea of a captain but always gave 100%. Seems to me a strange decision to let two of our best players go! Bad time to be in a relegation fight with an almost different team from pre the transfer window. Particularly as none of the players who have come in are an upgrade on Dobson. The two new full backs need to be exceptional because what I have seen so far the January window has weakened us. |
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Post by willett on Feb 11, 2024 10:36:58 GMT
Jones to be fair isn't even being kepted in the hoop. George signed the contract Monday and still gave Scott the final chance before signing. Then when in to Training Thursday and Jones didnt know what had even happened Monday. So as you’re apparently in the know - who’s decision to have Dobson train with the U21 (assuming true) Andy Scott’s. Was made before Jones got there. |
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Post by brad on Feb 11, 2024 11:08:25 GMT
Jones to be fair isn't even being kepted in the hoop. George signed the contract Monday and still gave Scott the final chance before signing. Then when in to Training Thursday and Jones didnt know what had even happened Monday. So as you’re apparently in the know - who’s decision to have Dobson train with the U21 (assuming true) Andy Scott Trust me all George wasn't being greedy at all was happy yo sign on half what Hungary team offered but Scott didn't want that deal. And has had it in for George since August. He has a young family and got to protect himself. If he wait till end of the season with no contract and picked up a big injury he would be in no man's land. That's why he signed the pre contract. Now Scott has cashed in on £100k rather than keep him till end if the season. We are bang in trouble and really needed to keep him to get out the mess we are in. |
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Post by se7sm on Feb 11, 2024 11:26:23 GMT
It’s a sad state of affairs when we are losing players to a Hungarian side who are more attractive than us and can pay more . The alarm bells have been ringing for a while now only it’s starting to become deafening . We definitely have that Titanic feeling with this mob and going down fast . Will be interesting to see who scrambles for the lifeboats first.
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Post by mikebassett on Feb 11, 2024 11:33:28 GMT
The opportunity to play in European competition, albeit the qualifying rounds of the Conference League, and joining a club that’s won a league title in the last ten years plus a different culture and broadening your horizons, it’s a decent opportunity for a player. I did expect Dobson to go to Wrexham after the links in the summer, so while it’s a little surprising, if you scratch the surface, I get it.
I’m not going to read into the Jones comments too much. If he knew, I’m not sure what point there is saying the club captain is off immediately after a pretty poor defeat and if he didn’t, he’s going to say what he said.
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Post by roburwash on Feb 11, 2024 11:45:02 GMT
I am truly saddened by Dobbo's departure. For the last three years he has been our only player with whom I have felt an affinity. I'm not one of these bloodless statistics people, for me football is about emotion, and caring about a player is part of the pleasure of watching a game. Did I care about Fraser and his departure? No. Nor any of the others who have come and gone and who looked to me to just be drawing a paycheck. But there was something about Dobbo, not just his 100% commitment, but his idiosyncratic foot tapping and way of walking, his football brain, his constant awareness of what was going on so that he anticipated what the dross around him had missed, his much maligned and under-appreciated ability to ping passes, his ridiculous hair, his engaging smile, his charming way with the mascots before kick-off, his obvious empathetic relationship with Alfie May - all of these things made him someone who felt like what I have loved about Charlton over the years. What is emerging about how he has been treated by the club is nothing less than scandalous and I have contempt for Scott who, to my mind is absolutely not what I love about this club
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Post by madz on Feb 11, 2024 11:47:51 GMT
I'm sad to see Dobson go. Whether it's because he didn't want to stay or we wouldn't give him the deal he wanted, it doesn't change the fact he gave his all for our club.
I'm really surprised he's going to Hungary though. Makes you wonder if the reason we rated him so highly is because he was surrounded by utter crap, so looked awesome in comparison.
Tbh though, regardless of anyone's opinion of his ability, I'd rather have team full of Dobsons who give a shit than the crap that is not "giving their all" no matter what our managers say.
Jones has got his work cut out to make this team care.
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Post by herewegoagain on Feb 11, 2024 12:25:12 GMT
This is a real sorry state of affairs and so avoidable. Dobson has his limitations but he has always given his all for our club, the over-rated, attitude problem midfielders that have joined this season are not fit to lace his boots. It’s clear the sole aim has been to get as many of the high earners off the books as possible despite the fact that most of those are responsible for points we currently have on the board.
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Post by watameires on Feb 11, 2024 12:39:16 GMT
IMO Scott has not been out of order (controversial I know) on the Dobson situation. Football is a business. For me you can say it was the wrong decision for the club but not out of order…
Two sides couldn’t reach an agreement- this happens across the board regularly in business- not sure why football should be different
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Post by clarky on Feb 11, 2024 13:00:09 GMT
IMO Scott has not been out of order (controversial I know) on the Dobson situation. Football is a business. For me you can say it was the wrong decision for the club but not out of order… Two sides couldn’t reach an agreement- this happens across the board regularly in business- not sure why football should be different Although it would appear that one side wanted to reach an agreement and remain at the club whilst the other side would prefer him to leave. Whilst I agree football is a business it seems bad business in letting one of your better players go whilst replacing him with somebody who is not as good particularly in a relegation scrap |
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Post by leedsaddick on Feb 11, 2024 13:32:16 GMT
It’s a sad state of affairs when we are losing players to a Hungarian side who are more attractive than us and can pay more . The alarm bells have been ringing for a while now only it’s starting to become deafening . We definitely have that Titanic feeling with this mob and going down fast . Will be interesting to see who scrambles for the lifeboats first. Another attraction could be the fact he’ll be paying only 15% income tax… there’s no higher tax threshold over there as there is in the UK |
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Post by se7sm on Feb 11, 2024 13:45:02 GMT
It’s a sad state of affairs when we are losing players to a Hungarian side who are more attractive than us and can pay more . The alarm bells have been ringing for a while now only it’s starting to become deafening . We definitely have that Titanic feeling with this mob and going down fast . Will be interesting to see who scrambles for the lifeboats first. Another attraction could be the fact he’ll be paying only 15% income tax… there’s no higher tax threshold over there as there is in the UK you always got them Cayman islands willing to take your wages 😉maybe our SMT can help😁 |
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Post by Mundell on Feb 11, 2024 13:57:14 GMT
So as you’re apparently in the know - who’s decision to have Dobson train with the U21 (assuming true) Andy Scott Trust me all George wasn't being greedy at all was happy yo sign on half what Hungary team offered but Scott didn't want that deal. And has had it in for George since August. He has a young family and got to protect himself. If he wait till end of the season with no contract and picked up a big injury he would be in no man's land. That's why he signed the pre contract. Now Scott has cashed in on £100k rather than keep him till end if the season. We are bang in trouble and really needed to keep him to get out the mess we are in. It’s completely understandable that Dobson did not want to run his contract down, though the club could presumably have forced him to play out the rest of the season. It clearly chose not to do so. What’s very puzzling about this situation is why Dobson is moving to Hungary rather than to another club in the EFL. Can you shed any light on this? Is the implication that there were no other offers? |
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Post by sevenoaks on Feb 11, 2024 14:00:17 GMT
I am truly saddened by Dobbo's departure. For the last three years he has been our only player with whom I have felt an affinity. I'm not one of these bloodless statistics people, for me football is about emotion, and caring about a player is part of the pleasure of watching a game. Did I care about Fraser and his departure? No. Nor any of the others who have come and gone and who looked to me to just be drawing a paycheck. But there was something about Dobbo, not just his 100% commitment, but his idiosyncratic foot tapping and way of walking, his football brain, his constant awareness of what was going on so that he anticipated what the dross around him had missed, his much maligned and under-appreciated ability to ping passes, his ridiculous hair, his engaging smile, his charming way with the mascots before kick-off, his obvious empathetic relationship with Alfie May - all of these things made him someone who felt like what I have loved about Charlton over the years. What is emerging about how he has been treated by the club is nothing less than scandalous and I have contempt for Scott who, to my mind is absolutely not what I love about this club Possibly explain Alfies little less desire displays lately, as they will all be aware of the goings on... Does anyone know is Hector genuinely injured?. |
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Post by bigandy99 on Feb 11, 2024 14:04:10 GMT
He might get European football next year as an aside?…without knowing anything about the club he’s joining..
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Post by sevenoaks on Feb 11, 2024 15:05:11 GMT
Would have been nice for supporters to have said goodbye to Dobbo and thank him for his efforts.
His daughter on the pitch at Burton, and thr following home game spoke volumes.
I was told, that he was due to fly off,but delayed due to an offer from Charlton, which sounds like unsuccessful.
I suppose it can't be announces as sad to see George go, but unfortunately he wouldn't sign a shit offer from us.
Anyway, I gor one wish him and hisvyoung family nothing but the best,and hope it works out for him.
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Post by LoyalAddick on Feb 11, 2024 15:09:52 GMT
From the Fehervar website
CERTIFICATE
George Dobson is a Fehérvár FC player from next season!
today, 3:15 p.m
The hard-working English midfielder will join our team on July 1st .
George Dobson has signed a contract with our club valid from July 1, 2024. The English midfielder was born on November 15, 1997, learned the basics of football as a young player at Arsenal and West Ham United, then played for Walsall, Wimbledon, Sparta Rotterdam in the Dutch top flight and Sunderland, before joining the long-established London club He transferred to Charlton Athletic. At Charlton, he became a real audience favorite and team captain due to his passionate and useful play, he has played 130 games in the last two and a half seasons, scoring 5 goals and providing 7 assists. After the 2021/2022 season, he became the club's player of the year, after the 2022/2023 season, he finished second in the voting.
In recent days, our club has agreed on all terms with George Dobson's club regarding the immediate transfer in February, however, the London club backed out of the deal at the last moment, so the midfielder will be a player of our club from July 1st.
"This time, the journalist colleagues had accurate information about this transfer, until Sunday it seemed that George Dobson could join us before the February 14 deadline. However, his current club withdrew from the transfer at the last second, despite the fact that the parties had agreed on all conditions in writing, the young midfielder's family had already moved, and our club organized the usual medical examinations and paperwork. We are sorry that it turned out this way, we are waiting for George during the summer preparations, and in our opinion, we still managed to strengthen the midfield of our team with Dávid Sigér in such a way that we can look forward to the rest of the season with optimism", pointed out the details of the Vidi executive, Attila Balogh.
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Post by southnorwoodaddick on Feb 11, 2024 15:23:33 GMT
This is all very odd. Relegation would be very expensive so I wonder if the board or Jones have been shocked by how weak and demoralised the team is. The Hungarian club have made it sound like Charlton pulled out of the deal to sell early rather than the other way round.
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