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Post by bexleyboy on Feb 10, 2024 14:23:43 GMT
Why was it bad .. he was offered 2 year deal with option
said many times it was not about money … but he wanted 3 year straight deal and has welling said no other club in English football made an offer that tells you how he is seen outside Charlton fan base .. …
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Post by bexleyboy on Feb 10, 2024 14:24:32 GMT
Scott has made its personal plan to get rid of Dobson since August because him stood up to him. The 2 offers he got from Charlton. 1 year Extra £500 2 years Extra £500 The offers would still made him on less money than T Watson, Mcgrandles. Hector. And even such more than the top earns Untrue
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Post by seriouslyred on Feb 10, 2024 14:37:39 GMT
He only didn't sign because of a joke offer the club offered. He would have signed for half what the Hungary club are paying. Assessing Dobson's situation, it's noteworthy that a Championship club didn't pursue him during the transfer window. The absence of interest from League 1 clubs adds complexity to the analysis; it may be wise to approach your source with a degree of skepticism. Perhaps Jones and Scott didn't rate him? No other bids we know about, and the view many fans held last season has been challenged. 12 months ago many of us thought an upgrade on Morgan and Payne / build upon Fraser and Dobson was the answer. Was it the players, managers or Scott that have taken us down a different path? And will this new path take us away from the bottom four? Let's watch the next couple of games and take a view on Coventry, Bakinson and L.Watson before rushing to judge whether Dobson (and Fraser) leaving is truly a poor move.
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Post by weststandfruitloop on Feb 10, 2024 14:40:36 GMT
Why is anyone surprised by this?
We know Dobson signed a pre-contract to join a Hungarian club in the summer.
We know they offered us a fee to take him now.
We know their transfer window closes in a few days.
We can infer that he’s refused to play for us again (hence the ‘tight calf injury’ rubbish).
We’ve also spent our highest fee in years to sign a direct replacement/upgrade.
By selling him now we (a) get a fee (pretty small I suspect, maybe £100k-£150k), (b) we save his wages for the rest of the season, (c) we unload an unsettled and potentially disruptive squad member, and (d) Dobson gets to make his dream move a few months early.
Seems like a win-win-win-win situation to me.
There are plenty of things to criticise Andy Scott for but I think moving Dobson on now (in the circumstances) is something he, if anything, deserves praise for.
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Post by AndyB on Feb 10, 2024 14:42:02 GMT
Dobson is one of the only players we have that looks like he could handle a relegation scrap
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Post by willett on Feb 10, 2024 15:52:06 GMT
Scott apparently forced him to train with the U21’s.
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Post by brad on Feb 10, 2024 15:58:26 GMT
Scott has made its personal plan to get rid of Dobson since August because him stood up to him. The 2 offers he got from Charlton. 1 year Extra £500 2 years Extra £500 The offers would still made him on less money than T Watson, Mcgrandles. Hector. And even such more than the top earns Untrue This is completely true. I can ensure you of that.
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Post by wiggyatthebackpost on Feb 10, 2024 17:13:32 GMT
Scott apparently forced him to train with the U21’s. If that's true then Scott's a c @nt.Another chancer stealing a living
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Post by herewegoagain on Feb 10, 2024 17:16:50 GMT
If we have sold Dobson this is just moronic. Dobson walks into our midfield over any of the complete shite that started or indeed came off the bench today. GET OUT OF OUR CLUB SCOTT YOU ARE A FAILURE!
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Post by reamsofverse on Feb 10, 2024 17:17:43 GMT
It beggars belief that Scott doesn't rate Dobson yet is responsible for bringing fake footballers like Bakinson and Louis Watson to the club. Total lightweights a bit like the garbage we have up front.
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Post by watameires on Feb 10, 2024 17:35:06 GMT
Scott apparently forced him to train with the U21’s. If that's true then Scott's a c @nt.Another chancer stealing a living Surely it would be Jones decision not Scott’s ?
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Post by roburwash on Feb 10, 2024 17:35:45 GMT
The idea that Scott can rate any of the players on the pitch today over Dobson is so depressing. The only reason Dobson is leaving is because Scott doesn't rate him highly enough to give him a contract that almost every fan knows that Dobson merits. I fear for us while Scott is still in charge of selecting who we buy. Mediocre or worse, is what he has presented us with.
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Post by roburwash on Feb 10, 2024 17:36:37 GMT
If that's true then Scott's a c @nt.Another chancer stealing a living Surely it would be Jones decision not Scott’s ? It has been reliably reported that it was Scott's decision. The man is an arsehole.
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Post by mersthamred on Feb 10, 2024 17:37:46 GMT
It beggars belief that Scott doesn't rate Dobson yet is responsible for bringing fake footballers like Bakinson and Louis Watson to the club. Total lightweights a bit like the garbage we have up front. It does beggar belief. A team with hardly anyone playing well and you get rid of one of the only players who always plays well.
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Post by wiggyatthebackpost on Feb 10, 2024 17:40:46 GMT
Kermorgant all over again to an extent look what happened there.
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Post by brad on Feb 10, 2024 17:41:37 GMT
It beggars belief that Scott doesn't rate Dobson yet is responsible for bringing fake footballers like Bakinson and Louis Watson to the club. Total lightweights a bit like the garbage we have up front. Yes completely Reams. Dobson stood up for the players at the start of the season as you do for being captain and with that added to the fact Dobson is liked around the club and by fans he made it his passion to get rid of him. Bakinson is a awful player again its Scott's singing. Conner can't play at 4. He needs to be playing further forward
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Post by watameires on Feb 10, 2024 17:42:00 GMT
Surely it would be Jones decision not Scott’s ? It has been reliably reported that it was Scott's decision. The man is an arsehole. Who Dobson trains with? I don’t believe that but If so Jones should hang his head for being here just for the money
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Feb 10, 2024 17:48:28 GMT
Anyone who thinks Coventry is an upgrade on Dobson knows fuck all about football.
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Post by roburwash on Feb 10, 2024 17:49:21 GMT
It has been reliably reported that it was Scott's decision. The man is an arsehole. Who Dobson trains with? I don’t believe that but If so Jones should hang his head for being here just for the money Jones has not been here long enough to form his own opinion about anything and has no idea yet how totally incompetent Scott is.
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Post by ExeterAddick on Feb 10, 2024 17:55:44 GMT
Kermorgant all over again to an extent look what happened there. Bang on. Selling CBT and not replacing him is comparable too.
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Post by herewegoagain on Feb 10, 2024 18:07:56 GMT
Anyone who thinks Coventry is an upgrade on Dobson knows fuck all about football. Given the glowing endorsements some gave Coventry when he arrived, I was expecting an extremely competent player. But let’s face it he isn’t very good and we’ve seen very little to suggest he is anywhere near as good as Dobson.
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Post by 1978sussex on Feb 10, 2024 18:20:30 GMT
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Post by mikebassett on Feb 10, 2024 18:43:04 GMT
If he wants to go, let him go. There’s no point keeping someone around who doesn’t want to be there.
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Post by thesunisred on Feb 10, 2024 18:53:34 GMT
So he's not been sold then. Either that or NJ is unaware that he has.
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Post by mikebassett on Feb 10, 2024 20:21:24 GMT
The fact the “nicest” thing people are saying about Dobson is “he gives 100%” sums him up and where the club is that one of our better current players is summed up that way.
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Post by roburwash on Feb 10, 2024 20:29:58 GMT
The fact the “nicest” thing people are saying about Dobson is “he gives 100%” sums him up and where the club is that one of our better current players is summed up that way. Well, here are some other things people say about him. He is our best defensive midfielder and his forward passing ability is the best in an admittedly crap team. Curbs perceptively said he is the one player who would make it into one of his teams and Brownie agreed. The fact that he is underappreciated by the man who brought you Fiorini, Bakinson, Ladapo etc tells you everything. Also BB doesn't rate him. 'Nuff said.
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Post by garrynelson on Feb 10, 2024 20:40:46 GMT
We should have been building a team around Dobson - not patching one up without him
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Post by Mundell on Feb 10, 2024 20:52:32 GMT
Are we sure Dobson has been sold? A Rich Cawley tweet following a question put to Nathan Jones about why he didn’t play today suggests not.
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Post by roburwash on Feb 10, 2024 20:57:40 GMT
What will that say about Jones and the whole situation when he leaves?
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Post by jonkool on Feb 10, 2024 21:16:07 GMT
I can understand letting Dobbo go if the numbers didn’t add up but I cannot understand us not replacing him with a better player … Barkinson and Fiorini are nowhere near good enough and Coventry hasn’t dominated as of yet.
It’s all down to poor management decision making by Scott!
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