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Post by Mundell on Jan 10, 2024 21:47:47 GMT
They’re damned if they do and damned in they don’t aaronaldo I thought that way of thinking about the structure of the squad was quite interesting, though we shouldn’t take it too literally. I don’t think it gives too much away though, beyond an insight into how the club might be thinking about how to spend its wage budget. Funnily enough, one of my sons and I were discussing something very similar when driving to the Oxford United game. Using the SalarySport.com website as a broad guide we tried to figure out how many of the top fifty or so players in League One it might be possible to sign within an affordable wage budget. In very round numbers, it might make sense to spend, say, circa £4m p.a. on your best eight players, £2m p.a. on the next group and £1m p.a. on the younger group, for a total spend of circa £7m p.a. to cover twenty four players. Compare that with spending the same total equally, i.e. each player is paid £5,600 per week. Which strategy delivers the best outcome? It might not be rocket science, but these are important choices and they should be strategic and not circumstantial or random. Looking at the reaction to the Q&A from our fanbase on both Twitter & the other forum, you really are in the overwhelming minority with regards to your continuing faith in the owners. Some might say that social media fans are not wholly representative, but I’d put the reaction to tonight’s Bullshitathon at around 90% - 10% negative. I’m not at all surprised by that Occam’s Razor but I’m nevertheless happy with my own current assessment. In my experience the majority opinion is wrong as often as it’s right. Equally, I’ll have no problem in admitting to having misread what’s going on if it becomes clear this is another train wreck. In truth, none of us know right now how SE7 will perform over the next 1-3 years and the current uncertainty will only be resolved over time. |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 10, 2024 21:53:53 GMT
Well Paul Elliot has certainly got all the cliches off pat Used to like him as a player but he came across as a real bore Paul Elliott’s diversity lecture really grinded my gears. The club didn’t need to hire consultants to find out that the the vast majority of our fanbase doesn’t live in Charlton, but to listen to Elliott you’d think there was the equivalent of the Berlin Wall preventing todays’s local populace from attending the Valley. Risible, Woke bollocks. I’m sure many ITTV members, me included, have long family links to the Royal Borough of Greenwich, Woolwich & Charlton , but equally there are very valid reasons why many families have moved out of the area over the years, and we don’t need Mr Paul Elliott piously lecturing us from his own perch in suburbia. |
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Post by watameires on Jan 10, 2024 21:56:57 GMT
At least Paul Elliott acknowledges that we could be in a relegation battle. They contradicted themselves about signing players who are ready to go when they have just signed on loan the two midfielders who are not 100% fit. I agree with them that the club marketing is poor and have paid consultants on how to solve this major problem for the club. Though at the end of the day we win games people will come back. Someone asked the question that I wanted answered about the real ownership group not at least saying hello to us fans as I think it’s important. Other than Sandgaard’s rock nonsense and making mistakes at least he was friendly. Oh and if any Greenwich residents try to park outside my house I will tell them to hop it ! you pay for consultants when you don’t know how to run a business yourself |
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Post by valley on Jan 10, 2024 21:57:21 GMT
Used to like him as a player but he came across as a real bore Paul Elliott’s diversity lecture really grinded my gears. The club didn’t need to hire consultants to find out that the the vast majority of our fanbase doesn’t live in Charlton, but to listen to Elliott you’d think there was the equivalent of the Berlin Wall preventing todays’s local populace from attending the Valley. Risible, Woke bollocks. I’m sure many ITTV members, me included, have long family links to the Royal Borough of Greenwich, Woolwich & Charlton , but equally there are very valid reasons why many families have moved out of the area over the years, and we don’t need Mr Paul Elliott piously lecturing us from his own perch in suburbia. Lots of Kent people go Arsenal or Tottenham only success on the pitch brings support not just people that live in Charlton. |
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Post by clarky on Jan 10, 2024 21:59:46 GMT
Certainly more concerned than I was a couple of hours ago. So despite what Scott said it is loans not permanents, and having 8 academy players in the squad hasn't worked so far so why do they think it will now? Elliott is a waste of space and Rodwell's comments about Anderson shows how clueless he actually is. Glad some thought it insightful and I think one person even saw some positives but looking across social media the vast majority have been left extremely worried. I think relegation is a distinct possibility particularly if we lose Dobson and CBT. I thought he was making the point about loaning teenagers from Premier League clubs that would be better than Anderson. I might have misunderstood. My general impression was that they sounded like they knew where we need to aspire to be but there was no indications to how they think we will get there. The worry for me is that they don’t know how to get there. I think you are right but I also think he bigged him up when it is clear to us he is currently not good enough to start and should be loaned out to a club in a lower league. Agree I don't think they know how to get there either and I also think the 888 nonsense will be ditched before it properly gets off the ground. |
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Post by Mundell on Jan 10, 2024 22:04:08 GMT
Certainly more concerned than I was a couple of hours ago. So despite what Scott said it is loans not permanents, and having 8 academy players in the squad hasn't worked so far so why do they think it will now? Elliott is a waste of space and Rodwell's comments about Anderson shows how clueless he actually is. Glad some thought it insightful and I think one person even saw some positives but looking across social media the vast majority have been left extremely worried. I think relegation is a distinct possibility particularly if we lose Dobson and CBT. I thought he was making the point about loaning teenagers from Premier League clubs that would be better than Anderson. I might have misunderstood. My general impression was that they sounded like they knew where we need to aspire to be but there was no indications to how they think we will get there. The worry for me is that they don’t know how to get there. I agree kings hill addick In my experience, you rarely learn very much when talking to most management teams (at least not if you’ve done your research), but it nevertheless is reasonable to ask yourself three high level questions. First, does what they are saying, in terms of philosophy, objectives, strategy, approach to execution et al, make sense. Is it plausible. Credible? Second, are they sincere and committed. Do they mean what they say or is it all spin. Do you trust them? Third, can they execute. Do they have the competence, given a fair wind, to do what’s needed to succeed? These are relatively simple questions, but that doesn’t mean they’re are easy to answer, especially given the lack of time and of opportunity to interrogate. Hence, it’s necessary to make judgements about things that are necessarily uncertain. Nevertheless, my answers to these three questions in respect of SE7, supported by tonight’s performance are 1) Yes, 2) Yes, but that the jury is very much out on 3). Obviously, we all want “Three Yes’s”, but while we don’t yet have that, we do at least have the two that matter the most in the long run. |
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Post by redrobin on Jan 10, 2024 22:08:27 GMT
At least Paul Elliott acknowledges that we could be in a relegation battle. They contradicted themselves about signing players who are ready to go when they have just signed on loan the two midfielders who are not 100% fit. I agree with them that the club marketing is poor and have paid consultants on how to solve this major problem for the club. Though at the end of the day we win games people will come back. Someone asked the question that I wanted answered about the real ownership group not at least saying hello to us fans as I think it’s important. Other than Sandgaard’s rock nonsense and making mistakes at least he was friendly. Oh and if any Greenwich residents try to park outside my house I will tell them to hop it ! you pay for consultants when you don’t know how to run a business yourself Well said "watameires." So much for the directors commercial awareness, and Charlie Boys Oxford Uni degrees...... |
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Post by newyorkaddick on Jan 10, 2024 22:08:50 GMT
We can all debate how many 'elite L1' players we have that every club would want to have (potentially none if we're brutally honest) but either way getting from the current low number to as many as eight won't be easy.
There are only a few ways to get them:
1. Academy Stars: we've definitely had some in the past (eg Konsa, Gomez, Lookman, Doughty...) and might have one today (Leaburn) but they tend to get sold quickly, though this can help finance players via 2. and 3.;
2. Sign Proven Elite L1 Players: will either be out-of-contract players demanding high wages (eg Jones, L Taylor) or in-contract players demanding a fee and high wages (eg May, Aneke...) and many of our big L1 club peers will be reluctant to sell to a competitor. Either way there is little margin for error here, we HAVE to get these right;
3. Sign Potential Elite L1 Players: will likely be the 'best of' L2 club talents or younger players who didn't quite make the Championship grade. Scouting and character assessment is clearly key here else you end up chock full of the likes of Kirk, Lavelle, Oshilaja, Jaiyesimi etc. who don't progress us at all. Get it right however and you might uncover the next Blackett-Taylor, Dobson or Aribo.
4. Loans: realistically requires a stroke of luck with a Rak-Sakyi, Maatsen or Cullen type from a Prem club, because an experienced loan is unlikely to be L1 elite unless frozen out for some reason by their parent club (see failed experiments with McGeady, Maddison etc.). These players are few and far between because if they're that good they should be on the fringe of their own first team. In practice most are extremely raw and not very additive (eg Tedic, Smith, Levitt, John etc.).
5. Improve Existing Players: a perennial bugbear in recent seasons has been the sense that a succession of head coaches haven't improved our players. Longer standing fans will recall the way Curbs turned relatively limited players like Robinson, Brown, Jones and Newton into solid Premier League players. With the right coaching could say Egbo, T Watson, Taylor, Isted etc. move from the middle category to the elite one?
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Post by Mundell on Jan 10, 2024 22:17:30 GMT
PS Though the world around us is constantly evolving, the fundamentals of most businesses tend not to change much over time and in this sense there is very little which is genuinely new. Nevertheless, paradoxically, it is often surprising how much value simple common sense can sometimes add. When Captain Bullshit was ticket dumping (pissing off fans like me who found themselves surrounded by people who had paid less for their tickets than I had and who didn’t know which team were playing in red), he didn’t even know who had “bought” the tickets he’d dumped and, hence, had no means of marketing to them for future matches, FFS. Given this pathetic legacy it doesn’t surprise me at all that there might be quite a lot the club can learn about who buys tickets, their demographic, where they live etc., and hence about what might be done to attract new fans. It may not be rocket science, but that doesn’t mean it can’t add value.
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Post by kings hill addick on Jan 10, 2024 22:17:30 GMT
I thought he was making the point about loaning teenagers from Premier League clubs that would be better than Anderson. I might have misunderstood. My general impression was that they sounded like they knew where we need to aspire to be but there was no indications to how they think we will get there. The worry for me is that they don’t know how to get there. I agree kings hill addick In my experience, you rarely learn very much when talking to most management teams (at least not if you’ve done your research), but it nevertheless is reasonable to ask yourself three high level questions. First, does what they are saying, in terms of philosophy, objectives, strategy, approach to execution et al, make sense. Is it plausible. Credible? Second, are they sincere and committed. Do they mean what they say or is it all spin. Do you trust them? Third, can they execute. Do they have the competence, given a fair wind, to do what’s needed to succeed? These are relatively simple questions, but that doesn’t mean they’re are easy to answer, especially given the lack of time and of opportunity to interrogate. Hence, it’s necessary to make judgements about things that are necessarily uncertain. Nevertheless, my answers to these three questions in respect of SE7, supported by tonight’s performance are 1) Yes, 2) Yes, but that the jury is very much out on 3). Obviously, we all want “Three Yes’s”, but while we don’t yet have that, we do at least have the two that matter the most in the long run. I agree with your answers. I also think that this group are more likely to achieve their goals than Sandgaard was and ESI only wanted to take money out of the club. Time will tell. I suspect that we are, at least, as well off as we would have been if SE7 hadn’t have bought the club. |
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Post by petetongthereturn on Jan 10, 2024 22:22:35 GMT
Also who will be paying for the conversion to ‘safe standing’ in the north lower?
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Post by petetongthereturn on Jan 10, 2024 22:24:52 GMT
I nearly kicked the cat when Charlotte said with Mcgrandles and Taylor back it will be like new signings.
Thank god she said it !
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Post by earlpurple on Jan 10, 2024 23:44:43 GMT
We don't have a centre forward: we do, but we are playing him wide on the wing.. Or are you saying Alfie May is not a centre-forward, given how many goals he scores?
We need a couple of leaders on the pitch who do not even need to necessarily be the most talented players on the ball, but need to know how to position themselves correctly and ensure all the other players are also in the right positions or making the right runs.
As well as making saves and catching crosses, a good goalkeeper knows where to position himself, and also instructs his defenders where to position themselves around the box. And also does something good with the ball when he obtains it, either by catching a cross and starting a "break", or taking a good goal kick.
They seemed to emphasise better coaching of the academy, but I want to see better coaching of the first team so they know what they need to do and can all at least be considered in the middle category of "solid" players, and can remain that way throughout the game.
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 11, 2024 7:53:43 GMT
No real surprises there and nothing to change my own glass half full outlook. Confirmation bias rules OK! 😎 For the avoidance of doubt, that latter observation is not just directed at my own reaction!! The biggest hole in their argument IMO came when Gavin Carter let slip that SE7 Partners want to get promoted “in the next 5 years”. Rodwell didn’t contradict him on that. The idea that a group of absentee foreign investors are going to fund the black hole L1 losses for another 5 years is risible, but more importantly the club would have shrunk to such an extent then that it would be unrecognisable. I’ve long suspected that this is SE7 ‘s end game - to go to Sandgaard (the guarantor?) and Duchatelet (the landlord) and say attendances don’t warrant us playing in a 27,000 stadium any longer. RD then mothballs the Valley. Falling attendances was one of the issues not done justice last night. Turnstile counts now in the 7000-8000 range, and likely to get worse with dead rubbers approaching . |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 11, 2024 7:58:33 GMT
earlpurpleLet’s play Rodwell’s silly 8-8-8 game for a minute, and look at our promotion squad at Wembley under Bowyer. How many of them were “elite” players ? Phillips - steady Djiksteel - steady Purrington - steady Pearce - steady Bauer - elite Bielik - elite Aribo - elite Cullen - elite Pratley - steady Williams - steady Parker - crap Taylor - elite Solly - steady
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Post by aaronaldo on Jan 11, 2024 8:15:05 GMT
earlpurple Let’s play Rodwell’s silly 8-8-8 game for a minute, and look at our promotion squad at Wembley under Bowyer. How many of them were “elite” players ? Phillips - steady Djiksteel - steady Purrington - steady Pearce - steady Bauer - elite Bielik - elite Aribo - elite Cullen - elite Pratley - steady Williams - steady Parker - crap Taylor - elite Solly - steady So what you're saying is, we could get promoted with 5 elite players previously. So this 8 elite scenario would be more than enough? |
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Post by stew1 on Jan 11, 2024 8:40:37 GMT
you pay for consultants when you don’t know how to run a business yourself Well said "watameires." So much for the directors commercial awareness, and Charlie Boys Oxford Uni degrees...... In my experience management teams already know the answer. They employ expensive management consultants to tell them the answer so that they can act on it. |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Jan 11, 2024 8:50:31 GMT
earlpurple Let’s play Rodwell’s silly 8-8-8 game for a minute, and look at our promotion squad at Wembley under Bowyer. How many of them were “elite” players ? Phillips - steady Djiksteel - steady Purrington - steady Pearce - steady Bauer - elite Bielik - elite Aribo - elite Cullen - elite Pratley - steady Williams - steady Parker - crap Taylor - elite Solly - steady So what you're saying is, we could get promoted with 5 elite players previously. So this 8 elite scenario would be more than enough? I’m saying 8-8-8 is consultancy speak nonsense, and that we are miles off the standard of that team in 2019. |
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Post by seriouslyred on Jan 11, 2024 9:22:55 GMT
So what you're saying is, we could get promoted with 5 elite players previously. So this 8 elite scenario would be more than enough? I’m saying 8-8-8 is consultancy speak nonsense, and that we are miles off the standard of that team in 2019. That squad was built on the back of the previous season when we finished in the play-offs. In other words it takes time. You haven’t allowed for the whole squad! Most would agree that the real challenge will be to acquire these elite players. But at least they've stated the requirement. And we already have the Academy lads- who don't count towards SCMP. Let's see where we are at the end of this window. |
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Post by Mundell on Jan 11, 2024 10:18:04 GMT
No real surprises there and nothing to change my own glass half full outlook. Confirmation bias rules OK! 😎 For the avoidance of doubt, that latter observation is not just directed at my own reaction!! The biggest hole in their argument IMO came when Gavin Carter let slip that SE7 Partners want to get promoted “in the next 5 years”. Rodwell didn’t contradict him on that. The idea that a group of absentee foreign investors are going to fund the black hole L1 losses for another 5 years is risible, but more importantly the club would have shrunk to such an extent then that it would be unrecognisable. I’ve long suspected that this is SE7 ‘s end game - to go to Sandgaard (the guarantor?) and Duchatelet (the landlord) and say attendances don’t warrant us playing in a 27,000 stadium any longer. RD then mothballs the Valley. Falling attendances was one of the issues not done justice last night. Turnstile counts now in the 7000-8000 range, and likely to get worse with dead rubbers approaching . I don’t want to give the impression that I’m always looking to disagree with what you post Occam’s Razor or that, somehow, there are two opposing perspectives on SE7 with you in one camp and me representing the other, so I hope we can see this as a discussion which helps us better understand what’s going on here rather than a straight up and down argument. I didn’t really register Gavin Carter’s “in the next 5 years” comment, but I agree that on the surface it seems odd. However, I’m not sure I’d read much into it. The key question for me is how might staying in League One help the investors? What purpose would it serve? Why, therefore, would they be happy to do so? Similarly, given that SE7 don’t own the Stadium how would moving out of it help? They might save on costs, but they’d need to find somewhere else to play and it’s hard to see the net benefit. If they’ve bought the club to make money how do they plan to do so? The fact is that because Roland Duchatelet still owns the Valley and Sparrows Lane the ONLY way SE7’s investors can recoup the £12m they’ve invested, let alone make any profit, is for the club to achieve success on the field of play and at a minimum that means getting back into the Championship. There is no alternative. Indeed, Rodwell made a strong statement saying that only in the Premier League can the club actually make money. You’d have to believe that Josh Friedman et al are innocent lambs to the slaughter to suggest they don’t understand this and for me that’s entirely implausible. It’s just a personal perspective, but I didn’t think Gavin Carter came across particularly well though that doesn’t mean he isn’t sincere. It’s possible that what he was trying to say was “we simply MUST get back into the Championship, but we understand this may take time and we’re prepared for that”. That’s interpretive on my part, but it seems more plausible than a self defeating willingness to remain in League One and it’s actually a positive because it implies patience and staying power. On the 8-8-8, as I’ve already said they were damned if they did and damned if they didn’t last night. I think they were trying to communicate a very simple message around a) how they plan to spend the available wage budget and b) related to that what we can expect the broad breakdown of the squad to look like. Put simply, if you have a wage budget of £7m, say, and a squad of 24 players you have some choices to make. At one extreme you could pay each player the same or at the other you could pay one player £7m and recruit non professionals to fill out the squad. Everyone in League One operates somewhere between those two extremes. There are no exceptions, whatever the overall budget might be. All Rodwell was doing was telling us they’ve thought about this problem strategically and have concluded how they want to allocate the wage budget they’ve agreed. This will then inform what they can play our “best players” (and may have helped determine the offers made to Dobson and Taylor, for example) and how many of them will be in the squad. It would be entirely reasonable to propose an alternative breakdown, but in broad terms I don’t see how you can object. How would you suggest they allocate their wage budget? As I said, I’m not looking for an argument, just sharing a different perspective on the same information. For me the question isn’t whether SE7 have good intentions and/or a credible and attractive plan which, if it works, will deliver good outcomes, it’s whether they have the competence to execute. The jury is still out as far as that is concerned, though I agree that so far the evidence is not particularly positive. Rodwell addressed this in part and when strongly supporting both Scott and Appleton (that was entirely predictable of course) he made it clear there is a lot of good work going on behind the scenes which as fans we are not aware of. We need to hope that this soon begins to translate into better outcomes. |
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Post by aaronaldo on Jan 11, 2024 10:51:46 GMT
The biggest hole in their argument IMO came when Gavin Carter let slip that SE7 Partners want to get promoted “in the next 5 years”. Rodwell didn’t contradict him on that. The idea that a group of absentee foreign investors are going to fund the black hole L1 losses for another 5 years is risible, but more importantly the club would have shrunk to such an extent then that it would be unrecognisable. I’ve long suspected that this is SE7 ‘s end game - to go to Sandgaard (the guarantor?) and Duchatelet (the landlord) and say attendances don’t warrant us playing in a 27,000 stadium any longer. RD then mothballs the Valley. Falling attendances was one of the issues not done justice last night. Turnstile counts now in the 7000-8000 range, and likely to get worse with dead rubbers approaching . On the 8-8-8, as I’ve already said they were damned if they did and damned if they didn’t last night. I think they were trying to communicate a very simple message around a) how they plan to spend the available wage budget and b) related to that what we can expect the broad breakdown of the squad to look like. Put simply, if you have a wage budget of £7m, say, and a squad of 24 players you have some choices to make. At one extreme you could pay each player the same or at the other you could pay one player £7m and recruit non professionals to fill out the squad. Everyone in League One operates somewhere between those two extremes. There are no exceptions, whatever the overall budget might be. All Rodwell was doing was telling us they’ve thought about this problem strategically and have concluded how they want to allocate the wage budget they’ve agreed. This will then inform what they can play our “best players” (and may have helped determine the offers made to Dobson and Taylor, for example) and how many of them will be in the squad. It would be entire reasonable to propose an alternative breakdown, but in broad terms I don’t see how you can object. How would you suggest they allocate their wage budget? I have to say the 8-8-8 idea has grown on me once I've had time to process it more. 8 elite players and 8 league 1 standard players with some academy products sounds solid enough for a promotion push. We just need to get those 8 elite players in asap! We have very few currently. I can't see us adding to this much in January but hopefully in the summer we have met our target or are close to it, either through perms or loans. I would expect loans to be some of the 8 elite players. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2024 10:54:30 GMT
Paul Elliotts lecture on diversity got me and comparing us to lge 2 forest Green, fking hell, does this mean we're going to have more games with men parading round the pitch in stocking and suspenders if so heaven help us.
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Post by melrose555 on Jan 11, 2024 11:20:37 GMT
Paul Elliotts lecture on diversity got me and comparing us to lge 2 forest Green, fking hell, does this mean we're going to have more games with men parading round the pitch in stocking and suspenders if so heaven help us. Couldn't do any worse than most of the first team! |
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Post by melrose555 on Jan 11, 2024 11:28:28 GMT
All this 8-8-8 fucking nonsense. All that was needed was "we are looking for a balanced quality quad, and will try and promote youth players if at all possible"
What the fans wanted them to say is that "we feel that we're not gonna go up this year, but we're gonna make sure the fuck we're not gonna go down"
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Post by charltonborn on Jan 11, 2024 12:02:22 GMT
The biggest hole in their argument IMO came when Gavin Carter let slip that SE7 Partners want to get promoted “in the next 5 years”. Rodwell didn’t contradict him on that. The idea that a group of absentee foreign investors are going to fund the black hole L1 losses for another 5 years is risible, but more importantly the club would have shrunk to such an extent then that it would be unrecognisable. I’ve long suspected that this is SE7 ‘s end game - to go to Sandgaard (the guarantor?) and Duchatelet (the landlord) and say attendances don’t warrant us playing in a 27,000 stadium any longer. RD then mothballs the Valley. Falling attendances was one of the issues not done justice last night. Turnstile counts now in the 7000-8000 range, and likely to get worse with dead rubbers approaching . I don’t want to give the impression that I’m always looking to disagree with what you post Occam’s Razor or that, somehow, there are two opposing perspectives on SE7 with you in one camp and me representing the other, so I hope we can see this as a discussion which helps us better understand what’s going on here rather than a straight up and down argument. I didn’t really register Gavin Carter’s “in the next 5 years” comment, but I agree that on the surface it seems odd. However, I’m not sure I’d read much into it. The key question for me is how might staying in League One help the investors? What purpose would it serve? Why, therefore, would they be happy to do so? Similarly, given that SE7 don’t own the Stadium how would moving out of it help? They might save on costs, but they’d need to find somewhere else to play and it’s hard to see the net benefit. If they’ve bought the club to make money how do they plan to do so? The fact is that because Roland Duchatelet still owns the Valley and Sparrows Lane the ONLY way SE7’s investors can recoup the £12m they’ve invested, let alone make any profit, is for the club to achieve success on the field of play and at a minimum that means getting back into the Championship. There is no alternative. Indeed, Rodwell made a strong statement saying that only in the Premier League can the club actually make money. You’d have to believe that Josh Friedman et al are innocent lambs to the slaughter to suggest they don’t understand this and for me that’s entirely implausible. It’s just a personal perspective, but I didn’t think Gavin Carter came across particularly well though that doesn’t mean he isn’t sincere. It’s possible that what he was trying to say was “we simply MUST get back into the Championship, but we understand this may take time and we’re prepared for that”. That’s interpretive on my part, but it seems more plausible than a self defeating willingness to remain in League One and it’s actually a positive because it implies patience and staying power. On the 8-8-8, as I’ve already said they were damned if they did and damned if they didn’t last night. I think they were trying to communicate a very simple message around a) how they plan to spend the available wage budget and b) related to that what we can expect the broad breakdown of the squad to look like. Put simply, if you have a wage budget of £7m, say, and a squad of 24 players you have some choices to make. At one extreme you could pay each player the same or at the other you could pay one player £7m and recruit non professionals to fill out the squad. Everyone in League One operates somewhere between those two extremes. There are no exceptions, whatever the overall budget might be. All Rodwell was doing was telling us they’ve thought about this problem strategically and have concluded how they want to allocate the wage budget they’ve agreed. This will then inform what they can play our “best players” (and may have helped determine the offers made to Dobson and Taylor, for example) and how many of them will be in the squad. It would be entirely reasonable to propose an alternative breakdown, but in broad terms I don’t see how you can object. How would you suggest they allocate their wage budget? As I said, I’m not looking for an argument, just sharing a different perspective on the same information. For me the question isn’t whether SE7 have good intentions and/or a credible and attractive plan which, if it works, will deliver good outcomes, it’s whether they have the competence to execute. The jury is still out as far as that is concerned, though I agree that so far the evidence is not particularly positive. Rodwell addressed this in part and when strongly supporting both Scott and Appleton (that was entirely predictable of course) he made it clear there is a lot of good work going on behind the scenes which as fans we are not aware of. We need to hope that this soon begins to translate into better outcomes. |
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Post by charltonborn on Jan 11, 2024 12:09:49 GMT
I really enjoy reading Mundell. His information is informative without too much bias but plenty of common sense, that always relates to the matters he is writing about.
His latest example does not take sides, but is again stating his interpretation without the ranting of other prolific writers!
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Post by watameires on Jan 11, 2024 12:19:24 GMT
Paul Elliotts lecture on diversity got me and comparing us to lge 2 forest Green, fking hell, does this mean we're going to have more games with men parading round the pitch in stocking and suspenders if so heaven help us. that the new Castore kit for next season? 😳 |
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Post by watameires on Jan 11, 2024 12:27:40 GMT
Using the categorisation of players (8-8-8) from yesterday- where would we place Dobson and CBT?
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Post by se7sm on Jan 11, 2024 13:06:17 GMT
Using the categorisation of players (8-8-8) from yesterday- where would we place Dobson and CBT? in the middle 8 all the rest in with the kids |
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Post by clarky on Jan 11, 2024 13:11:29 GMT
Using the categorisation of players (8-8-8) from yesterday- where would we place Dobson and CBT? With other clubs |
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