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Post by seriouslyred on Jan 10, 2024 13:31:15 GMT
Like him or loathe him, Rick Everitt has eviscerated Charlie Methven and SE7 Partners in a new VOTV on line tonight. I’m not Everitt’s biggest fan, but he’s hit many nails on the head in his new article regarding the bullshit, wishful thinking and delusion that have marked Methven’s ownership. The roles played by Andy Scott and “James” Rodwell are also analysed and exposed. If you are looking in , take a look at VOTV on line Charlie 👍 Many, many CAFC fans agree with the criticisms made of you 👍 you can tell that, just by the attendances. Everitt called out Methven and the takeover before it happened as did Dodger and both got slated. Currently they are both being proved right. This time last year it was a binary choice between Sandgaard staying or SE7 Partners taking over. We weren't going anywhere under Sandgaard and it was surprising that he didn't cut a deal at the earliest opportunity. Many of us just want to see each ownership move us up the leagues and then pass on the Baton to the next. |
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Post by kings hill addick on Jan 10, 2024 15:23:32 GMT
Like him or loathe him, Rick Everitt has eviscerated Charlie Methven and SE7 Partners in a new VOTV on line tonight. I’m not Everitt’s biggest fan, but he’s hit many nails on the head in his new article regarding the bullshit, wishful thinking and delusion that have marked Methven’s ownership. The roles played by Andy Scott and “James” Rodwell are also analysed and exposed. If you are looking in , take a look at VOTV on line Charlie 👍 Many, many CAFC fans agree with the criticisms made of you 👍 you can tell that, just by the attendances. Everitt called out Methven and the takeover before it happened as did Dodger and both got slated. Currently they are both being proved right. To be fair, it is easy to criticise, and I'm not happy with the current level of progress but we need to bear in mind that the first requirement of a new owner is that they are willing to underwrite multi-million pound losses every year, plus stump up the purchase fee. I am a long way away from wishing that Sandgaard or ESI still owned the club, rather than the current owners. In the absence of concrete evidence that there was someone else willing to take on the clubs losses with a better 'development plan' it does seem a little unfair to call out the current group that are funding our hobby at a cost of, close to, a million pounds a month. |
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Post by ploppy on Feb 11, 2024 9:27:44 GMT
The Sunderland fans weren’t wrong then??
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Feb 11, 2024 9:46:47 GMT
If you are looking in Methven, and I hope you are - resign. Walk away. Admit you’ve been rumbled, again.
And take your two fellow idiots Scott & Rodwell with you.
The three of you almost deserve League Two football next season.
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Post by clarky on Feb 11, 2024 9:59:25 GMT
If you are looking in Methven, and I hope you are - resign. Walk away. Admit you’ve been rumbled, again. And take your two fellow idiots Scott & Rodwell with you. The three of you almost deserve League Two football next season. Spot on. |
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Post by mikebassett on Feb 11, 2024 10:04:25 GMT
Methven is a shyster. It was abundantly clear when the majority of the country revelled in his David Brent-esque “performance” in Sunderland Till I Die and if you then looked at what happened post-Netflix, that title was firmly cemented. He has no place being near football clubs, he’s a businessman and not a very good one at that.
The budget has been stripped back, that may have been necessary but you have to wonder whether the brutality of the cuts was a necessity in January with relegation a distinct possibility. While Methven and his posse need plenty of stick, this is a culmination of 15 years of mismanagement and the compound effect of Roland, ESI, Sandgaard and now Methven and Co.
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Feb 11, 2024 10:19:30 GMT
Methven is a shyster. It was abundantly clear when the majority of the country revelled in his David Brent-esque “performance” in Sunderland Till I Die and if you then looked at what happened post-Netflix, that title was firmly cemented. He has no place being near football clubs, he’s a businessman and not a very good one at that. The budget has been stripped back, that may have been necessary but you have to wonder whether the brutality of the cuts was a necessity in January with relegation a distinct possibility. While Methven and his posse need plenty of stick, this is a culmination of 15 years of mismanagement and the compound effect of Roland, ESI, Sandgaard and now Methven and Co. Fortunately we have reamsofverse on here , who has a direct line to Methven. I am sure he will leave the SMT is no doubt that they are not wanted at this club and that all 3 are now on borrowed time. |
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Post by wiggyatthebackpost on Feb 11, 2024 16:13:28 GMT
Charlie Charlie Charlie if your looking in and truly have good intentions. And know what Charlton is all about ,that band of brothers Scott and Rodwell. That you put together should be replaced by Curbs and Brown.
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Post by ploppy on Feb 11, 2024 22:05:34 GMT
Charlie - if you’re looking in tonite. You’ve made a big fycking mess of this club. Satisfied?
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Feb 14, 2024 8:50:06 GMT
If we do go down, I can see the SE7 Partners SMT having a real good go at getting us out of the Valley this summer. Step forward Ed Warrick 👍
You can just hear it now , ‘we don’t need a 27,000 Premier league stadium in League Two. We can’t afford the match day costs’.
SE7 Partners arrange a low cost ground share. Duchatelet mothballs the Valley.
You’ve only got to look at some of our potential opponents next season, to see how attendances will be impacted.
Barrow. Harrogate. Sutton.
Terrible barrel scraping fixtures. In no circumstances would we need a four sided Valley for such games. You could easily fit everyone in the West Stand.
Some might think this scenario is far fetched, but I’ve long believed that SE7 / Sandgaard / Duchatelet have an End Game, and that this is it.
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Post by valley on Feb 14, 2024 9:45:16 GMT
Ground share what stadium for league two?.
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Post by clarky on Feb 14, 2024 11:30:20 GMT
If we do go down, I can see the SE7 Partners SMT having a real good go at getting us out of the Valley this summer. Step forward Ed Warrick 👍 You can just hear it now , ‘we don’t need a 27,000 Premier league stadium in League Two. We can’t afford the match day costs’. SE7 Partners arrange a low cost ground share. Duchatelet mothballs the Valley. You’ve only got to look at some of our potential opponents next season, to see how attendances will be impacted. Barrow. Harrogate. Sutton. Terrible barrel scraping fixtures. In no circumstances would we need a four sided Valley for such games. You could easily fit everyone in the West Stand. Some might think this scenario is far fetched, but I’ve long believed that SE7 / Sandgaard / Duchatelet have an End Game, and that this is it. If you believe the Texas prospectus (which many believe never existed) I am sure it allegedly said that there would be a stand closure as a way of trimming down expenditure. |
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Post by clarky on Feb 14, 2024 11:32:38 GMT
Ground share what stadium for league two?. It won't have to be very big. As things currently stand I suspect real attendance figures are under 10,000 and relegation would reduce season tickets and walk ins considerably. |
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Post by clarky on Feb 14, 2024 11:40:27 GMT
Where we have been both lucky and unlucky is that the academy players that have been needed to not only pad out the squad but have had to be overly been used in the starting 11. We have been unlucky that they have not been currently good enough but still have to feature and lucky because currently they have no sale value. I would put money on Leaburn being sold in January had he not got injured and he is the only one who would have commanded a decent fee. If he had been sold can anybody believe the money received would have been spent wisely?
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Post by AndyAddick on Feb 14, 2024 12:05:57 GMT
If we do go down, I can see the SE7 Partners SMT having a real good go at getting us out of the Valley this summer. Step forward Ed Warrick 👍 You can just hear it now , ‘we don’t need a 27,000 Premier league stadium in League Two. We can’t afford the match day costs’. SE7 Partners arrange a low cost ground share. Duchatelet mothballs the Valley. You’ve only got to look at some of our potential opponents next season, to see how attendances will be impacted. Barrow. Harrogate. Sutton. Terrible barrel scraping fixtures. In no circumstances would we need a four sided Valley for such games. You could easily fit everyone in the West Stand. Some might think this scenario is far fetched, but I’ve long believed that SE7 / Sandgaard / Duchatelet have an End Game, and that this is it. Said this weeks ago |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Apr 1, 2024 16:54:37 GMT
I wish you had been on the 17.10 from Charlton back to London Bridge tonight Charlie Boy.
The air was blue (from those of our fans who could be heard above the Stevenage) , and I made sure to throw your name and Andy Scott’s into the mix 👍
You both need to be held accountable for this season.
47 points from 41 league games and a dog’s breakfast of a squad is down to you two, and I was glad to hear tonight that I’m far from the only Charlton fan who wants you two gone.
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Post by valley on Apr 1, 2024 17:24:53 GMT
I wish you had been on the 17.10 from Charlton back to London Bridge tonight Charlie Boy. The air was blue (from those of our fans who could be heard above the Stevenage) , and I made sure to throw your name and Andy Scott’s into the mix 👍 You both need to be held accountable for this season. 47 points from 41 league games and a dog’s breakfast of a squad is down to you two, and I was glad to hear tonight that I’m far from the only Charlton fan who wants you two gone. Stevenage mouthing off about JFC leaving us because we shit lol. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Apr 1, 2024 17:49:23 GMT
I wish you had been on the 17.10 from Charlton back to London Bridge tonight Charlie Boy. The air was blue (from those of our fans who could be heard above the Stevenage) , and I made sure to throw your name and Andy Scott’s into the mix 👍 You both need to be held accountable for this season. 47 points from 41 league games and a dog’s breakfast of a squad is down to you two, and I was glad to hear tonight that I’m far from the only Charlton fan who wants you two gone. Stevenage mouthing off about JFC leaving us because we shit lol. We are. |
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Post by 995632 on Apr 1, 2024 19:37:14 GMT
I wish you had been on the 17.10 from Charlton back to London Bridge tonight Charlie Boy. The air was blue (from those of our fans who could be heard above the Stevenage) , and I made sure to throw your name and Andy Scott’s into the mix 👍 You both need to be held accountable for this season. 47 points from 41 league games and a dog’s breakfast of a squad is down to you two, and I was glad to hear tonight that I’m far from the only Charlton fan who wants you two gone. When has Methven been involved in recruitment? |
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Post by aucklandaddick on Apr 2, 2024 7:17:39 GMT
I am neither pro or against Charlie but why would it be him alone ( and Scott obviously)that is accountable for what has happened this season…..What about Rodwell……what about the other board members…….
The player recruitment has been scatter gun without any proper strategy in place so surely that is down to the person who is head of recruitment
Rodwell i am sure must have played a part in recruiting Appleton along with Scott so then the owners quire rightly got involved to ensure we made the correct decision this time in employing Jones….I for one would like to see the owners get more involved in the club because I have doubts about this lots ability to make the right decisions
As far as I think Jones should have complete responsibility for rebuilding this summer and I would imagine that was part of the bargaining when he took the job
I am not trying to defend any of the board but why would Charlie be singled out rather than the whole board……..Just a question?
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Post by 995632 on Apr 2, 2024 7:33:33 GMT
I wish you had been on the 17.10 from Charlton back to London Bridge tonight Charlie Boy. The air was blue (from those of our fans who could be heard above the Stevenage) , and I made sure to throw your name and Andy Scott’s into the mix 👍 You both need to be held accountable for this season. 47 points from 41 league games and a dog’s breakfast of a squad is down to you two, and I was glad to hear tonight that I’m far from the only Charlton fan who wants you two gone. When has Methven been involved in recruitment? Actually, he did have a small party to play on the recruitment after all. He was able to recruit the people who had the £££ to actually buy us in the first place from TS. I can tell you that I had serious trouble convincing ALL of my multi multi millionaire and billionaire high net worth friends to check the back of their sofas for the spare change to satisfy the EFL of their ability to fund us AND give Tommy enough for a world tour with his son on lead vocals. |
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Apr 2, 2024 8:02:37 GMT
When has Methven been involved in recruitment? Actually, he did have a small party to play on the recruitment after all. He was able to recruit the people who had the £££ to actually buy us in the first place from TS. I can tell you that I had serious trouble convincing ALL of my multi multi millionaire and billionaire high net worth friends to check the back of their sofas for the spare change to satisfy the EFL of their ability to fund us AND give Tommy enough for a world tour with his son on lead vocals. Methven put the whole thing together, Scott included. His own words, not mine. Once he had put his expert SMT together, they pitched to investors. The broader point is that our player recruitment over the past 12 months has been very, very poor. We supposedly have the second highest budget in league one, yet you’d struggle to find a more unbalanced squad than ours. |
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Post by earlpurple on Apr 2, 2024 8:16:51 GMT
Come on, for Stevenage, 8th in League One is a great achievement. In the end though we'll be playing in the same league as them next season. Lincoln and Oxford both won yesterday and that means it's 2 points dropped for Stevenage if they had playoff ambitions, and I'd have expected them to go all out to win it, and they didn't.
It's a worse result for them in a sense. We probably have enough to see us safe and the bottom 4 all lost.
They beat us in our promotion season of 2012, they were the first team to do so and only one of 5 that managed it the whole season. I think they finished 6th but failed in the playoffs. Did they drop into the National League at some point? I think they did. So yeah, 8th in League One now is quite an achievement for them.
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Post by kings hill addick on Apr 2, 2024 9:40:39 GMT
I am neither pro or against Charlie but why would it be him alone ( and Scott obviously)that is accountable for what has happened this season…..What about Rodwell……what about the other board members……. The player recruitment has been scatter gun without any proper strategy in place so surely that is down to the person who is head of recruitment Rodwell i am sure must have played a part in recruiting Appleton along with Scott so then the owners quire rightly got involved to ensure we made the correct decision this time in employing Jones….I for one would like to see the owners get more involved in the club because I have doubts about this lots ability to make the right decisions As far as I think Jones should have complete responsibility for rebuilding this summer and I would imagine that was part of the bargaining when he took the job I am not trying to defend any of the board but why would Charlie be singled out rather than the whole board……..Just a question? When owners get involved in football decision making you get things like The Sandgaards. Most of the worst transfer dealing has been as a when two people that have no experience in football have been making the decisions. The owners are very wealthy because they are very good at what they do. I wouldn't expect former footballers to be able to manage massive hedge funds and I wouldn't want hedge fund managers selecting footballers. Just like I didn't like Sandgaard and Sandgaard junior doing so. Just like Brian Clough said, the Chairman is just there to sign the cheques. |
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Post by 995632 on Apr 2, 2024 10:33:23 GMT
Actually, he did have a small party to play on the recruitment after all. He was able to recruit the people who had the £££ to actually buy us in the first place from TS. I can tell you that I had serious trouble convincing ALL of my multi multi millionaire and billionaire high net worth friends to check the back of their sofas for the spare change to satisfy the EFL of their ability to fund us AND give Tommy enough for a world tour with his son on lead vocals. Methven put the whole thing together, Scott included. His own words, not mine. Once he had put his expert SMT together, they pitched to investors. The broader point is that our player recruitment over the past 12 months has been very, very poor. We supposedly have the second highest budget in league one, yet you’d struggle to find a more unbalanced squad than ours. "The broader point is that our player recruitment over the past 12 months has been very, very poor". Right, it has been underwhelming and left us with an unbalanced squad but not sure how/why Methven is being tarred with the Scott ineptitude brush. |
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Post by watameires on Apr 2, 2024 10:58:28 GMT
I am neither pro or against Charlie but why would it be him alone ( and Scott obviously)that is accountable for what has happened this season…..What about Rodwell……what about the other board members……. The player recruitment has been scatter gun without any proper strategy in place so surely that is down to the person who is head of recruitment Rodwell i am sure must have played a part in recruiting Appleton along with Scott so then the owners quire rightly got involved to ensure we made the correct decision this time in employing Jones….I for one would like to see the owners get more involved in the club because I have doubts about this lots ability to make the right decisions As far as I think Jones should have complete responsibility for rebuilding this summer and I would imagine that was part of the bargaining when he took the job I am not trying to defend any of the board but why would Charlie be singled out rather than the whole board……..Just a question? He’s singled out as he wears Salmon coloured trousers |
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Post by bexleyboy on Apr 2, 2024 11:00:37 GMT
What’s CM got to do with any of it .. he not involved in recruitment in fact he not involved in the day to day running of the club ..as been said many many times
What you got to remember is we were working of MA targets then we changed managers and Jones managed to get a couple in that he wanted .. but like MA will basically have to work with someone else’s squad before he gets a chance to change it to play his way ..
The big issue this season was again injuries , if we had not lost 10 players ( more importantly Aneke and Leaburn at the same time ) we would still be competing for top 6 ..
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Post by clarky on Apr 2, 2024 16:09:39 GMT
Who recruited Scott? If it was Methven, and I suspect it was, then he is more to blame for this shitshow than anybody else!
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Post by Occam’s Razor on Apr 2, 2024 16:35:27 GMT
Who recruited Scott? If it was Methven, and I suspect it was, then he is more to blame for this shitshow than anybody else! This 👆 The simple question, given that Methven & Scott are employees of the investors, is should either still be at the club next season, based on their track records to date. PS - I sort of respect reamsofverse who had a close relationship with Methven for a while, but has since backed off and called it as it is with him. But I’m not sure why others are so reluctant to call it as it is ? If people think that Methven & Scott do deserve another go at it next season, fair enough, but why ? bexleyboyseriouslyred |
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Post by Mundell on Apr 2, 2024 16:57:57 GMT
Who recruited Scott? If it was Methven, and I suspect it was, then he is more to blame for this shitshow than anybody else! This 👆 The simple question, given that Methven & Scott are employees of the investors, is should either still be at the club next season, based on their track records to date. PS - I sort of respect reamsofverse who had a close relationship with Methven for a while, but has since backed off and called it as it is with him. But I’m not sure why others are so reluctant to call it as it is ? If people think that Methven & Scott do deserve another go at it next season, fair enough, but why ? bexleyboy seriouslyred Methven is not an employee of the investors. He is a minority investor in his own right and he is the person who put together a vision and strategy for the club and sold it to the investors. As result, we now have ambitious owners who have the financial resources to fund the club going forward and, it seems, a determination to see it run professionally. GFP/SE7 is not a shitshow, even if this season has been very disappointing. ESI was a shitshow. Sandgaard was a shitshow. Duchatelet was a shitshow. And Jimenez at al was a shitshow. What we have now is a significant upgrade on each of those regimes. If the investors don't believe the club's SMT is up to the job they'll be moved on. I'd leave those decisions to them. We all want better results and we all want to get back into the Championship, but structurally and strategically we're now in a better place than we've been for many years. That's my take on it anyway. |
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